Elvis Presley and today's pop/rock stars!

[Avante]

I do like to keep it real......

Elvis was greatly influensed by them old black blues, and his first record That's Alright Mama he stold from black bluesman Big Boy Crudup. And his first sessions for Sun Records had him covering tunes by bluesmen Lonnie Johnson and Juinor Parker.

Elvis did listen to "race records" he did know the blues and gospel..

Being into roots music there is just noway I can pretend blacks didn't play a major role in what we hear today, that would be silly.

Hank Williams was taught the guitar by a black neighbor, Jimmie Rodgers has talked about listening to blacks in the fields in rural Mississippi growing up. Bob Wills covered tons of old black blues.

When it comes to music we have to keep it real, there is no doubt the impact Robert Johnson, Bessie Smith, Muddy Waters, John Lee Hooker, The Mills Bros, Ray Charles and on and on,made. Hell, Jimi Hendrix.

 

[FootballDad]

Yeah back then blacks could actually play instruments unlike today when the can only rap and scratch.

 

[Extra Point]

I do like to keep it real......

Elvis was greatly influensed by them old black blues, and his first record That's Alright Mama he stold from black bluesman Big Boy Crudup. And his first sessions for Sun Records had him covering tunes by bluesmen Lonnie Johnson and Juinor Parker.

Elvis did listen to "race records" he did know the blues and gospel..

Being into roots music there is just noway I can pretend blacks didn't play a major role in what we hear today, that would be silly.

Hank Williams was taught the guitar by a black neighbor, Jimmie Rodgers has talked about listening to blacks in the fields in rural Mississippi growing up. Bob Wills covered tons of old black blues.

When it comes to music we have to keep it real, there is no doubt the impact Robert Johnson, Bessie Smith, Muddy Waters, John Lee Hooker, The Mills Bros, Ray Charles and on and on,made. Hell, Jimi Hendrix.

Clearly Avante is black or someone who worships blacks. He probably thinks all whites are evil oppressors and all blacks are noble victims.

His first sentence is a lie. On Presley's recording of That's All Right, Arthur Crudup is given full credit as the composer. Presley didn't "steal" the song.

The idea that whites who may have been influenced by blacks constitutes "theft" is an anti-white narrative, fabricated to denigrate innocent whites. It's nonsense.

The influences of whites on early rock music is written out of history by the lying anti-whites. Clearly country music was a major influence on early rock and roll.

The white hating black supremacists talk about Presley's black influences but write out of history his white influences. For example, Presley was obviously heavily influenced by Dean Martin but you'll never hear the anti-whites mention it. Just listen to a Dean Martin song of that era and then listen to an Elvis song and you'll see the similarities.

Old blues musicians such as Smith, Johnson, Waters and Hooker were boring and lousy. That's why they weren't that successful.

Elvis's music was far better than their's. That's why a lot of people bought it.

On issues of race people such as Avante are very predictable. It's always "whites bad, blacks good." Every single time.

 

[Heretic]

"...what we hear today...", is not any of that stuff, it's like what FootballDad mentioned...and I don't listen to any of it, so I'm not part of your "we".

Traditional Country&Western music had it's roots in Celtic folk music blended in with other musical types from European immigrants. A White man invented the guitar. Blues is just one form of many forms of music and is not heard that much of today and is certainly no precursor to the hip-hop or rap that is forced upon us.

Yes, Hendrix electrified and amplified the blues guitar and was revolutionary that way, but his band mates in "The Experience" were all White and exceptional, especially bassist Noel Redding, who was always rivaling Hendrix (because he didn't really care for him) and always pushing him to his limits because of how fast and adept he was at playing the bass guitar (but, of course, received no credit). "Second Wave" "British Invasion" bands like Led Zeppelin were heavily influenced by the likes of Muddy Waters in their early albums, but took it completely to the next level and the blues influenced waned as they progressed and grew throughout their musical careers.

Elvis Presley, the same; he incorporated a lot of different musical styles, and not in every song. However, from the late 60's throughout all of the 70's his music contained just a minimal level blues, and more C&W and even Classical and pop musical sounds incorporated by a lot of the "lounge" singers, along with some great gospel, much of inspired by Whites as much as blacks.

I think you are on the wrong discussion board.

 

[Don Wassall]

I think you are on the wrong discussion board.

I'm pretty sure this guy is "Brutus," an infamous troll from the earlier days of Caste Football who has crawled out from under the rock he's been living under for the past decade or so.

 

[Avante]

Clearly Avante is black or someone who worships blacks. He probably thinks all whites are evil oppressors and all blacks are noble victims.

His first sentence is a lie. On Presley's recording of That's All Right, Arthur Crudup is given full credit as the composer. Presley didn't "steal" the song.

The idea that whites who may have been influenced by blacks constitutes "theft" is an anti-white narrative, fabricated to denigrate innocent whites. It's nonsense.

The influences of whites on early rock music is written out of history by the lying anti-whites. Clearly country music was a major influence on early rock and roll.

The white hating black supremacists talk about Presley's black influences but write out of history his white influences. For example, Presley was obviously heavily influenced by Dean Martin but you'll never hear the anti-whites mention it. Just listen to a Dean Martin song of that era and then listen to an Elvis song and you'll see the similarities.

Old blues musicians such as Smith, Johnson, Waters and Hooker were boring and lousy. That's why they weren't that successful.

Elvis's music was far better than their's. That's why a lot of people bought it.

On issues of race people such as Avante are very predictable. It's always "whites bad, blacks good." Every single time.

I can't stand black folks, so you couldn't be more wrong. I just know the music and how things were.

 

[Avante]

I'm pretty sure this guy is "Brutus," an infamous troll from the earlier days of Caste Football who has crawled out from under the rock he's been living under for the past decade or so.

Nope, this is my first time here. I can't act like I don't know the music can I?

 

[Extra Point]

Here's a site which talks about how much Dean Martin influenced Elvis Presley.

Dean Martin and his Influence on Elvis - ilovedinomartin

 

[Menelik]

Elvis was the king! Personally I listen to country, oldschool and outlaw, and dinosaur (classic) rock. Are there ANY white folks still making rock songs? Serious question.

 

[Charles Martel]

Actually, Charlie Pride stole the country style of music from White people.

White people invented the guitars that Chuck Berry and Jimi Hendrix played, as well as the piano that Ray Charles played.

 

[Bucky]

Actually, Charlie Pride stole the country style of music from White people.

White people invented the guitars that Chuck Berry and Jimi Hendrix played, as well as the piano that Ray Charles played.

Talk about cultural appropriation

 

[Flint]

Elvis was the king! Personally I listen to country, oldschat ool and outlaw, and dinosaur (classic) rock. Are there ANY white folks still making rock songs? Serious question.

Not any that get any airplay. Actually the place that has the best new rock are the Christian Music stations. They play good ol' power rock and singable songs.

Regarding Elvis, as mentioned above, he was a big Dean Martin fan. It's why he had black hair, his hair was really much lighter, he dyed it dark black so he could be like Dino, the King of Cool.

 

[Carolina Speed]

Not any that get any airplay. Actually the place that has the best new rock are the Christian Music stations. They play good ol' power rock and singable songs.

Right Flint. If anyone here hasn't listened to Christian Music, some of the best musicians are in here. Kutless' "Strong Tower is a great Christian Rock song, but they have so many others as well. Switchfoot had a good one out years ago called "Dare you to Move"
I posted a Natalie Grant Christian Rock song video last year called, "I Will not be Moved" Check it out. She has the vocals of a Pat Benatar or Hearts Nancy Wilson if anyone here remembers these Rock and Roll ladies.
Phil Wickham although more of a soft rock, his song "This is Amazing Grace" is great!
Also Jeremy Camp is really good. He has his movie out this weekend in case any one wants to go out and see it. It's Called, "I Still Believe"
Thanks Flint for mentioning the Christian Rock genre.
It's about all I listen to anymore. I will listen to 60's, 70's music every now and then.
To me the 70's were the last great music years. Although there were a couple of bands from the 80's I liked as well.

 

[white is right]

With the recent release of the new Elvis biopic I decided to watch a copy of the Kirk Russell version that I didn't know was a television biopic. It was a 2 hours and 45 minute movie sans commercials so I guess it was a two part movie. While not a bad movie for what it did I feel that it could have been so much more if they did more episodes and dug deeper into his problems martially and with prescription narcotics. If HBO or another pay station did this biopic I suspect this would have been covered.

Time fly's but the King would be 87 now and it's unlikely he would be still be alive if he had beaten his drug addiction but if he had lived a few more decades I wonder what twists to his career and life would have happened.

PS if anybody watches the new biopic feel free to give a review of the new movie. It's funny but there are about 4 biopics on Elvis and some range from awful to excellent...

 

[Charles Martel]

The idea that Elvis stole or was mostly influenced by black music and tried to mimic it is just another Jewish media lie. Did he hang out with blacks? No, never seen any footage of Elvis hanging out with any blacks. Because a very small percent of the songs he recorded were previously recorded by blacks means nothing. It's the law of averages. Elvis re-did every song. He wasn't a great song writer nor a great musician. He was a performer who didn't care for blacks.

Yeah, I'm sure he stole from that musical treasure chest of Africa. If anything black music was influenced by whites. They went from banging pieces of wood and chanting indecipherable noises to actually singing songs with words that also were accompanied by magical things called musical instruments. And now with rap music they have went back to making indecipherable noises. The circle of life.

But yeah, I give them credit for gangsta rap. Good job, Africans!

True.

People who actually knew Elvis personally have said he didn't like Negroes.

And a Negro told me some years ago that he didn't like them, that Elvis said they were no good for anything.