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White Shogun said:
Here is the link WS.
[url]http://www.oregonlive.com/nfl/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/spor ts/114645393045140.xml&coll=7[/url]
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So no one is interested in Nick Hartigan or any of the other white running backs.What a joke.I also hate that Bergeron & some of the others went to the wrong teams where they will probably never get a legitimate chance!If your a white football player trying to be in the league,nfl stands for NOT FOR LONG!!
Don Wassall said:Guys like Kudla, Havner, Busing and others not being drafted is almost as pathetic as Hass not going until the 6th round, Anderson the 7th, and Hinkel not being drafted.ÂÂ
And yeah, it's nice if Reggie Bush put in a plug for Hass to be drafted by the Saints, but oh the irony of it all -- the best running back in the country, who went number two overall, asking his team to draft the best wide receiver in the country, who nearly wasn't drafted at all.ÂÂ
Don they showcase a few whites on defense each year to present a sense of fairness to white players and casual fans even though on average only one defensive starter out of ten is white, a totally absurd and contrived situation. The rest like Kudla Havner and Bushing along with the best of the white d-linemen and d-backs should also be early picks but instead are put on the free agent scrap heap like the white runners and receivers. The odds of any of these white guys becoming stars in the NFL after starting off as a free agent is just slightly above impossible. The Draft is a racket, an agenda of consensus to falsely elevate blacks beyond their ability; in other words giving them jobs over better qualified whites. That's called affirmative action in the business world, but because of black affinity for some sports, the affirmative action that does indeed take place is of a different type than the standard practice in the corporate world.In the caste system, the two perceived black advantages of faster straight line speed and jumping ability are made the be all and end all of genuine athleticism, with the many areas where whites more than hold their own either ignored or ridiculed. It's another version of affirmative action, one taylored for sports, but the media propagandists do there job so well that almost all white fans readily ascribe to the theory of their inferiority. It shows how minds have been closed to the truth by the endless repitition of lies posing as truth.
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foreverfree said:foreverfree said:Could somebody please explain the supplemental draft (when's that?) and the "compensatory selection"?
John
I guess nobody wants to... (rolls eyes)
John
Someone on the Baltimore Sun mb, where I use my CF handle, wanted to.
http://www.baltimoresun2.com/talk/showthread.php?t=60054
John
Shocked was the first word that came to mind when I found out that Kudla wasn't drafted. Most draft sites had him going in the 3rd or 4th rounds. I mean come on what else can the guy do to get drafted: 1st team All Big 10, 4.6 40, 225 benched 45 times, and 9.5 sacks senior year. What a bunch of crap but the Steelers really lucked out getting this guy. Don't be surprised to see Kudla starting in the NFL one day. Oh yeah and some team signed Syracuse CB Steve Gergory but I forgot who it was.
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This is my take...I have no loyalty to football teams...if they draft fair and give whites a shot than I will be more interested in them. For the most part though I just like following all the white players in the league. I also do buy Madden but make my teams 100% white...its fun so any of you other madden players should try it out.
Jimmy Chitwood
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i do the same thing!
it's funny how good the all-white Madden teams are, too.
as for team loyalty, i follow the Colts, but i pay much more attention to, and root for, white players than i do to any team.
as for team loyalty, i follow the Colts, but i pay much more attention to, and root for, white players than i do to any team.
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nice Jimmy Chitwood...its alot of fun and the only way I can play madden. I also like signing white FA's and trading them to the blacker teams. I like the Steelers but this draft put me over the edge...any joy from the SB victory is gone and I would not care if they did not win a game next season unless 4-5 of the udfa's make the team...Kudla, Lorello,Paxson and Smolko. Baker would be an added incentive.
Jimmy Chitwood
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here are some blurbs off of fox sports about the draft by Mike Tanier...
Nick Hartigan, the hard-hitting fullback from Brown, didn't get drafted but will get some looks as a free agent special teamer. There are plenty of other good fullbacks available on the free agent wire, including Brandon Jones of Purdue and Matt Bernstein of Wisconsin. Now, all we need are some NFL teams that still use fullbacks on more than 10 percent of their offensive plays.
first of all...fullback?!? WTF! secondly, getting some looks as a free agent special teamer is pretty dismal treatment for arguably the best running back in the history of Ivy League football.
Tim McGarigle (221st overall, Rams) is a step too slow in coverage to start in the NFL. But he was fast enough to tackle anyone who walked within three blocks of the stadium at Northwestern. He led the nation with 151 tackles in 2004. For an encore, he registered 156 tackles in 2005.
i would think all those guys he tackled would say Timmy is plenty fast enough. no?
Mark Setterstrom, G, Minnesota: Setterstrom never missed a game in his college career. He has quick feet and great work habits, and he is just big and strong enough to get by. He could end up starting by midseason for a Rams team that always seems to need help at guard.
he could be a starter midway through his rookie season, yet is just good enough to get by? am i missing something? if he's good enough to start, then why wasn't he drafted sooner? something doesn't add up here...
Greg Eslinger, C, Minnesota  Minnesota uses the same zone blocking scheme that the Broncos have made famous, so he'll develop nicely as the backup to Tom Nalen and eventually as Nalen's replacement.
same thing here...if he's good enouogh to eventually replace one of the best centers ever why didn't somebody draft him, oh, i don't know, before May?!?
Mike Hass, WR, Oregon State  Hass is small and slow, but he had great college production, going for more than 1,000 yards each of his three seasons at Oregon State after joining the team as a walk-on. He likens himself to Ricky Proehl: A good route runner with good hands and a feel for how to get the better of more athletic defensive backs. But he also finds enough seams in opposing defenses that he averaged 17.8 yards a catch over the course of his career. He was a steal with the 171st pick overall.
small and slow...hmmm...where have we heard this before? do any of these media idiots actually do any research before they write these wonderful insights? WTF! and how do you "get the better of more athletic defensive backs" and "find enough seams...that he averaged 17.8 yards a catch" if you're slower than my dead granny? jeez! soilent green is people!
Biggest surprise of round 5? The Eagles selected Jeremy Bloom, the Olympic skier who used to moonlight as a receiver and return man for Colorado. The Eagles needed a return man and a potential home run hitter off the bench at wide receiver. So what's the surprise? The Eagles actually did something interesting! Usually, in the later rounds they draft developmental offensive linemen or nice, polite young men from Brigham Young. Bloom gives Philly fans something to talk about and obsess over.
what to say?
Kyle Williams, DT, Buffalo Bills. Marv Levy is taking a lot of heat for this draft, but he found a fine player with the 134th selection. Williams is a high-energy defender who will fit in immediately as a rotation tackle. First-round pick John McCargo is a scout's dream who doesn't play to his potential. Williams is a coach's dream who hustles and makes a lot of plays but doesn't pass the tape measure tests. Don't be surprised if Williams is more productive this year.
how many of these stories are there? "a scout's dream who doesn't play to his potential" means what exactly? they signed another black felon-to-be? while "Williams is a coach's dream who hustles and makes a lot of plays but doesn't pass the tape measure tests" which is, of course, how you win football games. with tape measure tests.
and yet people still claim that if white players were good enough, they would not only get a shot, but would play! what country are they living in? open your eyes!
on a side note, why doesn't it surprise me that michael robinson of Penn State and brad smith of Missouri are supposedly both being looked at as running backs, when fast, white running QBs are automatically moved to safety or sometimes wide receiver (Scott Frost, Eric Crouch, Matt Jones, etc.)?
Nick Hartigan, the hard-hitting fullback from Brown, didn't get drafted but will get some looks as a free agent special teamer. There are plenty of other good fullbacks available on the free agent wire, including Brandon Jones of Purdue and Matt Bernstein of Wisconsin. Now, all we need are some NFL teams that still use fullbacks on more than 10 percent of their offensive plays.
first of all...fullback?!? WTF! secondly, getting some looks as a free agent special teamer is pretty dismal treatment for arguably the best running back in the history of Ivy League football.
Tim McGarigle (221st overall, Rams) is a step too slow in coverage to start in the NFL. But he was fast enough to tackle anyone who walked within three blocks of the stadium at Northwestern. He led the nation with 151 tackles in 2004. For an encore, he registered 156 tackles in 2005.
i would think all those guys he tackled would say Timmy is plenty fast enough. no?
Mark Setterstrom, G, Minnesota: Setterstrom never missed a game in his college career. He has quick feet and great work habits, and he is just big and strong enough to get by. He could end up starting by midseason for a Rams team that always seems to need help at guard.
he could be a starter midway through his rookie season, yet is just good enough to get by? am i missing something? if he's good enough to start, then why wasn't he drafted sooner? something doesn't add up here...
Greg Eslinger, C, Minnesota  Minnesota uses the same zone blocking scheme that the Broncos have made famous, so he'll develop nicely as the backup to Tom Nalen and eventually as Nalen's replacement.
same thing here...if he's good enouogh to eventually replace one of the best centers ever why didn't somebody draft him, oh, i don't know, before May?!?
Mike Hass, WR, Oregon State  Hass is small and slow, but he had great college production, going for more than 1,000 yards each of his three seasons at Oregon State after joining the team as a walk-on. He likens himself to Ricky Proehl: A good route runner with good hands and a feel for how to get the better of more athletic defensive backs. But he also finds enough seams in opposing defenses that he averaged 17.8 yards a catch over the course of his career. He was a steal with the 171st pick overall.
small and slow...hmmm...where have we heard this before? do any of these media idiots actually do any research before they write these wonderful insights? WTF! and how do you "get the better of more athletic defensive backs" and "find enough seams...that he averaged 17.8 yards a catch" if you're slower than my dead granny? jeez! soilent green is people!
Biggest surprise of round 5? The Eagles selected Jeremy Bloom, the Olympic skier who used to moonlight as a receiver and return man for Colorado. The Eagles needed a return man and a potential home run hitter off the bench at wide receiver. So what's the surprise? The Eagles actually did something interesting! Usually, in the later rounds they draft developmental offensive linemen or nice, polite young men from Brigham Young. Bloom gives Philly fans something to talk about and obsess over.
what to say?
Kyle Williams, DT, Buffalo Bills. Marv Levy is taking a lot of heat for this draft, but he found a fine player with the 134th selection. Williams is a high-energy defender who will fit in immediately as a rotation tackle. First-round pick John McCargo is a scout's dream who doesn't play to his potential. Williams is a coach's dream who hustles and makes a lot of plays but doesn't pass the tape measure tests. Don't be surprised if Williams is more productive this year.
how many of these stories are there? "a scout's dream who doesn't play to his potential" means what exactly? they signed another black felon-to-be? while "Williams is a coach's dream who hustles and makes a lot of plays but doesn't pass the tape measure tests" which is, of course, how you win football games. with tape measure tests.
and yet people still claim that if white players were good enough, they would not only get a shot, but would play! what country are they living in? open your eyes!
on a side note, why doesn't it surprise me that michael robinson of Penn State and brad smith of Missouri are supposedly both being looked at as running backs, when fast, white running QBs are automatically moved to safety or sometimes wide receiver (Scott Frost, Eric Crouch, Matt Jones, etc.)?
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Hass is 6'0 208lbs and runs a 4.58 40...neither small nor slow. Anyone know of any pac 10 db's that got drafted? We all know Hass made them all look like fools.
Jimmy good post, you hacked that guys BS to pieces. How could any one read that crap and not wonder what the hell he is talking about. I guess on the bright side the guy was complimenting white players in the only way that he is allowed in the MSM.
Imust admit to being totally stunned at the pathetictreatment ofMike Hass. Even though I am well aware of the Caste System's chicanery, the brazen in your facedismissive attitude towardshimis unimaginable. Smaller, slower, non-producing black projects were actually picked ahead of him?! It really is frustrating.
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The treatment of Hass is becoming the norm these days.I just don't know how I would handle it if I was one of these players.You could break every record,win the Heisman and they still wouldn't want you if you are a wide receiver or running back that is white!
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Small is 5'10" or less, if you are 200 plus you are a good sized reciever. Man can the Jimmy the Greek stereotypers get any worse. You know the pencil pusher who wrote that drinks diet cokes and has a 40" waist and never played a down of football in his life.........
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Here's a guy to keep an eye on Tony Scheffler from Western Michigan to
the Broncos. Athletic, long, tall tight end. Also played baseball for three
years in college, and was a good basketball player in high school.
the Broncos. Athletic, long, tall tight end. Also played baseball for three
years in college, and was a good basketball player in high school.
white is right said:Small is 5'10" or less, if you are 200 plus you are a good sized reciever. Man can the Jimmy the Greek stereotypers get any worse. You know the pencil pusher who wrote that drinks diet cokes and has a 40" waist and never played a down of football in his life.........
Iknow don't all these "writers" look like the most unathletic people ever. Also yeah I bet this writer was critizing his high school team back when he was up in the stands watching and being jealous; wishing he was good enough to play just h.s. football.
pittbc7 said:
I agree. Why have loyalty to an all black team? What's the point? It's a nice bonus to see good white players on teams that I grew up watching (like Adam Dunn on the Reds, my childhood baseball team,) but it's just not a big deal. Old attachments die hard, I guess.
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I probably missed this as I have not read the last 9 pages of this thread, but WR Ethan Kilmer from Penn State was drafted as the first pick of the 7'th round by Cincinnatti. He is 6-1, 204. I don't know a whole lot else about him, but maybe he won't get thrown away. Watch for him this pre-season. This may not seem like much, but he got drafted ahead the over-rated Todd Watkins from BYU.
Others we had followed during the season were WR David Anderson, DE Dave Tollefson to Green Bay, DE Rob Ninkovich, TE Jason Pociask, TE Jeff King, and TE Quinn Sypniewski.
One sad omission from the draft was Andrew Pace, a fine CB who should have more years to play, but so it goes for the extremely scarce white CB's.
Others we had followed during the season were WR David Anderson, DE Dave Tollefson to Green Bay, DE Rob Ninkovich, TE Jason Pociask, TE Jeff King, and TE Quinn Sypniewski.
One sad omission from the draft was Andrew Pace, a fine CB who should have more years to play, but so it goes for the extremely scarce white CB's.
I read on a Bengals message board that Kilmer is being switched to safety. Not an authoritative source obviously, but it would hardly be surprising if that is the case.
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I wouldnt mind if he was switched to safety...there are not a whole lot of white dbs in the NFL either. WR or Safety...I would be happy if he made the team as either.
I doubt Kilmer will play much at WR or safety. With his 4.3 speed he'll most likely be groomed for that legendaryCaste Systemposition of White Specials Team Demon/team mascot.
I saw on draftdaddy that Steve Gergory CB from Syracuse has gotten an invite to the Chargers camp. He had offers from about 10 teams but decided that he had his best shot of making a team with the DB depleted Chargers. Draftdaddy named Gergory to its 2nd team of undrafted free agents who have the best shot of making a team. So good luck Steve!