Derrek Lee takes swing at pitcher

[Bart]

Instead of talking,I would like to see a white player throw the first punch for a change.


[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-padres-cubsfight&am p;prov=ap&type=lgns[/url]


CHICAGO (AP) -- Cubs first baseman Derrek Lee swung at San Diego pitcher Chris Young after he was hit by a pitch in the fourth inning Saturday, setting off a benches-clearing skirmish between the teams.


The two players were ejected, as were Padres pitcher Jake Peavy and Chicago hitting coach Gerald Perry.


Young hit Lee in the back of the upper left arm with the pitch, knocking him to the ground. Lee got up, walked by Young on the way to first, then said something to the 6-foot-10, 260-pound right-hander.


After the pitcher apparently responded, Lee threw a punch that didn't land. Young tried to throw a punch back that missed. Then he and Lee tried to connect at the same time.


By that time both benches had emptied, resulting in pushing, shoving and holding in a scrum as several players fell to the ground before order was restored.


The Padres were not happy Friday after Alfonso Soriano homered off David Wells, stopped at the plate to admire the ball and then started his home run trot with a few steps backward.


Young did not allow a hit in his three innings-plus Saturday and was replaced by Justin Hampson.

 

[lumsdenpower]

At least he fight back, nice

 

[screamingeagle]

Just another example of a black guy beating up a white guy... except the white is on a different team this time.

 

[Solomon Kane]

I don't mind the offended white guy not starting it--so long as he finishes it.

For what it's worth, I think Young was winning the fight, at least on intimidation points. And He retaliated instantly. I'm not sure I agree with the reporter that he did not land his punch.

Did you see the antics of Carlos "Hispanic rage" Zambrano during this fight--he took off his belt, as if he was going to administer some sort of ass whuppin'. Yeah right...dream on Carlos, Young is 6 ft. 10 and gutsy...He would've kicked your ass.

Is Zambrano on steroids? That would account for his rage, as well as his overly bulked-up appearance.

 

[Bart]

Did you see the antics of Carlos "Hispanic rage" Zambrano during this fight--he took off his belt, as if he was going to administer some sort of ass whuppin'..

Zambrano is a total idiot. It seemed to me that the pitch started on the outside of the plate and tailed into Lee as he was striding toward the plate. Big deal, he was hit on the arm. I would have thrown him out and left the pitcher in the game.


This reminds me of comments made by Orel Hershiser and Goose Gossage. In separate interviews each claimed the game was being destroyed. Goose said a major part of his game was intimidation, and the umps have taken that away from pitchers.Hitters get very comfortable at the plate and are allowed to dig in without fear of getting plunked or having to scramble away from inside pitches. He said he's seen pitchers tossed from games for throwing inside only once.Orel said hitters can now crowd the plate and reach out for pitches they couldn't hit before. Edited by: Bart

 

[Don Wassall]

The shocking lack of fundamentals is also ruining baseball. But it's hardly surprising given that the same thing has happened in football and basketball, the two other sports with a largenon-white presence.