Chris Kramer elbowed by black player

[Colonel_Reb]

First the stomp on Budinger and now this. I know these things have always happened, but is black on white violence in basketball racheting up to a whole new level? What do you think about it and the ejection?


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<B itxtvisited="1">WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind.[/B] -- Another game, another ejection for Michigan.
But this time, Purdue and Michigan players and coaches said the foul was not intentional nor flagrant, as the officials ruled.
Even so, U-M played without Manny Harris for the majority of the second half in a 67-49 loss to No. 16 Purdue on Saturday at Mackey Arena, after officials tossed him with 18:28 left for hitting Chris Kramer in the face with an elbow.<!--
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U-M (14-8, 4-6) has lost five of its last six games and Saturday was its lowest scoring output of the season. DeShawn Sims and Laval Lucas-Perry each had 10 points for the <NOBR id=itxt_nobr_4_0 style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 100%">Wolverines</NOBR>. Sims also led the team with five rebounds.
Purdue (17-4, 6-2), the league's preseason favorite, has won six straight. E'Twaun Moore scored 17 for the <NOBR id=itxt_nobr_5_0 style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 100%">Boilermakers</NOBR>.
Harris said in the locker room after the game he did not mean to hit Kramer.
"I was just doing what we (we're) taught -- catch the ball, ripping through," Harris said, explaining he was trying to transfer the ball from one hand to the other when he clipped Kramer with his elbow. "I mean, I'm sorry his face was in the way, but it wasn't intentional at all."
Kramer, said he believed his nose was broken from the hit, did not blame Harris. In fact, Purdue coach Matt Painter and other Boilermakers said it appeared unintentional.
"I wouldnt say it was a dirty play," Kramer said.
It was the second straight game in which a U-M player had been ejected for throwing an elbow. Against Ohio <NOBR id=itxt_nobr_10_0 style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 100%">State</NOBR> on Wednesday, Zack Novak was thrown out after elbowing P.J. Hill in the jaw while boxing out late in the game. Novak was suspended one game by coach John Beilein and sat out the Purdue game, although he accompanied the team to Indiana, his home state.
When Harris left the game, U-M led 29-27, and he had contributed five points on 2-of-7 shooting from the field. With Harris out, though, Purdue took advantage. The Boilermakers built a 55-37 lead with just more than seven minutes left. The Wolverines at that point were 0 of 9 from the 3-point line and had seven turnovers.
"Immediately, I thought it was a lift for us," U-M co-captain C.J. Lee said of the moments after Harris' ejection. "I mean, guys were inspired and motivated to play. For some reason, it didn't carry over and we didn't sustain the effort."
U-M's goal all season has been making the NCAA tournament, but with its recent skid and a tough Big Ten schedule ahead -- it also plays at No. 2 Connecticut on Feb. 7 -- the Wolverines reazlize things must change quickly.
"Everything is up in the air right now," Lee said. "We've kind of hit like a skid, but not all is lost. It's getting to that break point where we're going to have to do something. That's definitely an honest assessment. But there's still time. We still have time right now, so we're not going to waste any time thinking about that and having a negative attitude."
David Merritt, a senior co-captain, said U-M is aware that winning on the road in the Big Ten is critical to its postseason goals. Now, with the loss at Purdue, the Wolverines are 1-4 on the road in conference play.
"I think we were at that (breaking) point even before this game," Merritt said. "We just know we have to try to get some road wins. We've got to do it sooner than later, unfortunately it's going to have to be later." Edited by: Colonel_Reb

 

[GreatLakeState]

This was innocuous compared the the elbow thrown by a white U-M player earlier in the week.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

I haven't heard about that GLS, have any details?

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

Racism may or may not have been involved. I think sometimes some of these guys just get riled up with competitiveness.

I am aware that some black players might get frustrated at a white guy dominating them and the fact that white American players are making a minor comeback; but I think a lot of the time it is just tempers flaring from heated play.

The Budinger incident irked of racism more to me b/c of the high fives the player went for after walking on Chase. Chase is one of the top players in the nation; and some black guys get irked when he flies to the rim on them and makes them look silly. Still though Chase didn't get hurt badly so it all turned out o.k.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

I was happy to see Chase get up and swing at the p.o.c. negro. It showed he has some fire about him, and all our young white men need that fire if we are ever to reverse our future in this country.

 

[bigunreal]

Flying elbows are part and parcel of the street ball mentality. When the NBA, and then the NCAA, started permitting street players to circumvent the rules with impunity, white players were bound to suffer a disproportionate amount of injuries.

I'll chalk these things up to competitiveness, or the the heat of the game, when I see a black player injured at the hands of a white player in this manner. Of course, if that extremely unlikely event ever occurred, we all know that it would handled by the other blacks on the court, from both teams. The white would be pummeled by all of them, until the officals could pry them off.

Whites have been attacked by blacks on the court for decades. Kareem Abdul Jabbar acknowledged that he enjoyed fighting white players. Shockingly, no one accused him of being a "racist" for his comments. Curiously, the one time I can remember when a white player acted aggressively and went after a black was when Larry Bird went after Dr. J. I think that Dr. J, and all the other black players on the court, were so shocked at this almost unprecedented white behavior, that they didn't act as they normally would in such a situation, and retaliate with a gang assault.

White basketball players can't count on the referees, their own coaches, their own teammates, and certainly not their own fans.

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

This was innocuous compared the the elbow thrown by a white U-M player earlier in the week.

yeah, the elbow thrown by Zach Novak was pretty brutal. he was ejected and suspended. i don't recall how many games, though.

still, that one aberration shouldn't overshadow the trend of blacks taking cheap shots at whites. as most every basketball player knows and as you said before GLS if i recall correctly, blacks love trying to punk white kids.

 

[GreatLakeState]

Trying to punk a white kid is easier, and more often, done psychologically than physically.

If you watch a lot of Big Ten ball in recent years, the dirty white players are the more physical ones -- Graham Brown, Joe Krabbenhoft.

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

you think Krabbenhoft is dirty? i love the way he plays. he is one tough rascal, and can guard 4 positions.

 

[GreatLakeState]

Oh, good player. Every fan who bitches about him would love to have that MF on their team.