"Avatar" race issue

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An age old Hollywood formula:

Whites colonize an unexplored land, a white man lives and learns from the natives. He falls in love with a native woman, turns against his "OWN" kind, and leads a successful rebellion. Such formula always shows the evils of White colonial power and imperialism, and a White man becomes the messiah and savior of the oppressed natives.

Read and discuss amongst yourselves.


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Source: AP Mon Jan 11, 2010, 9:40 am EST

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FILE - In this file film publicity image released by 20th Century Fox, the character Neytiri, voiced by Zoe Saldana, right, and the character Jake, voiced by Sam Worthington are shown in a scene from, 'Avatar.' 'Avatar' remains the top box-office draw in the U.S. for the fourth straight weekend with $48.5 million. (AP Photo/20th Century Fox, File) NO SALES

- Near the end of the hit film "Avatar," the villain snarls at the hero, "How does it feel to betray your own race?" Both men are white â€" although the hero is inhabiting a blue-skinned, 9-foot-tall, long-tailed alien.

Strange as it may seem for a film that pits greedy, immoral humans against noble denizens of a faraway moon, "Avatar" is being criticized by a small but vocal group of people who allege it contains racist themes â€" the white hero once again saving the primitive natives.

Since the film opened to widespread critical acclaim three weeks ago, hundreds of blog posts, newspaper articles, tweets and YouTube videos have said things such as the film is "a fantasy about race told from the point of view of white people" and that it reinforces "the white Messiah fable."

The film's writer and director, James Cameron, says the real theme is about respecting others' differences.

In the film (read no further if you don't want the plot spoiled for you) a white, paralyzed Marine, Jake Sully, is mentally linked to an alien's body and set loose on the planet Pandora. His mission: persuade the mystic, nature-loving Na'vi to make way for humans to mine their land for unobtanium, worth $20 million per kilo back home.

Like Kevin Costner in "Dances with Wolves" and Tom Cruise in "The Last Samurai" or as far back as Jimmy Stewart in the 1950 Western "Broken Arrow," Sully soon switches sides. He falls in love with the Na'vi princess and leads the bird-riding, bow-and-arrow-shooting aliens to victory over the white men's spaceships and mega-robots.

Adding to the racial dynamic is that the main Na'vi characters are played by actors of color, led by a Dominican, Zoe Saldana, as the princess. The film also is an obvious metaphor for how European settlers in America wiped out the Indians.

Robinne Lee, an actress in such recent films as "Seven Pounds" and "Hotel for Dogs," said that "Avatar" was "beautiful" and that she understood the economic logic of casting a white lead if most of the audience is white.

But she said the film, which so far has the second-highest worldwide box-office gross ever, still reminded her of Hollywood's "Pocahontas" story â€" "the Indian woman leads the white man into the wilderness, and he learns the way of the people and becomes the savior."

"It's really upsetting in many ways," said Lee, who is black with Jamaican and Chinese ancestry. "It would be nice if we could save ourselves."

Annalee Newitz, editor-in-chief of the sci-fi Web site io9.com , likened "Avatar" to the recent film "District 9," in which a white man accidentally becomes an alien and then helps save them, and 1984's "Dune," in which a white man becomes an alien Messiah.

"Main white characters realize that they are complicit in a system which is destroying aliens, AKA people of color ... (then) go beyond assimilation and become leaders of the people they once oppressed," she wrote.

"When will whites stop making these movies and start thinking about race in a new way?" wrote Newitz, who is white.

Black film professor and author Donald Bogle said he can understand why people would be troubled by "Avatar," although he praised it as a "stunning" work.

"A segment of the audience is carrying in the back of its head some sense of movie history," said Bogle, author of "Toms, Coons, Mulattoes, Mammies & Bucks: An Interpretive History of Blacks in American Films."

Bogle stopped short, however, of calling the movie racist.

"It's a film with still a certain kind of distortion," he said. "It's a movie that hasn't yet freed itself of old Hollywood traditions, old formulas."

Writer/director Cameron, who is white, said in an e-mail to The Associated Press that his film "asks us to open our eyes and truly see others, respecting them even though they are different, in the hope that we may find a way to prevent conflict and live more harmoniously on this world. I hardly think that is a racist message."

There are many ways to interpret the art that is "Avatar."

What does it mean that in the final, sequel-begging scene, Sully abandons his human body and transforms into one of the Na'vi for good? Is Saldana's Na'vi character the real heroine because she, not Sully, kills the arch-villain? Does it matter that many conservatives are riled by what they call liberal environmental and anti-military messages?

Is Cameron actually exposing the historical evils of white colonizers? Does the existence of an alien species expose the reality that all humans are actually one race?

"Can't people just enjoy movies any more?" a person named Michelle posted on the Web site for Essence, the magazine for black women, which had 371 comments on a story debating the issue.

Although the "Avatar" debate springs from Hollywood's historical difficulties with race, Will Smith recently saved the planet in "I Am Legend," and Denzel Washington appears ready to do the same in the forthcoming "Book of Eli."

Bogle, the film historian, said that he was glad Cameron made the film and that it made people think about race.

"Maybe there is something he does want to say and put across" about race, Bogle said. "Maybe if he had a black hero in there, that point would have been even stronger."

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Jesse Washington covers race and ethnicity for The Associated Press.
 

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I suppose the one "saving grace", if it could even be called that of the movie is that a white human becomes a sort of a hero at the end, and even that is lampooned and lambasted. If it were a "minority human" who was in this role, this story would not even have been written. Of course, the movie is absurd (entertainingly absurd, but still absurd), but the themes of "evil humans" (especially evil whitehumans)are in your face. We can now start a new white guilt over how we treat these poor blue aliens. Perhaps reparations are forthcoming. My favorite review of the movie is from Gregg Easterbrook, the Tuesday Morning Quarterback. Here it is:




Outer-Space Cartoon Says Americans Are the Bad Guys: "Millions for defense, not a sixpence for tribute," Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, once a delegate to the Constitutional Convention, said in 1796. "Millions for special effects, not a Starbucks gift card for writing," might be the motto of modern Hollywood, at least if "Avatar" is the exemplar. "Avatar" should have been marketed as a cartoon and best animated feature of 2009. The special effects were great -- though yours truly increasingly finds computer-drawn special effects boring, since they are so obviously fake. The script was as dull and predictable as the special effects were flashy. Maybe the dialogue sounded better in Na'vi.








Hardly anything was explained -- so let's start with why the whole plot was set in motion in the first place. Sinister humans are bent on removing peace-loving blue aliens from a point on Pandora above some minerals the sinister humans want to strip-mine; the peace-loving natives won't move because the place is sacred ground. Reader Bryan Law of Independence, Ohio, notes: "Even today, horizontal drilling means you don't have to destroy the surface above a resource to obtain it. So why wasn't the problem on Pandora solved by horizontal drilling? Don't tell me that 150 years from now, humanity has become capable of interstellar travel, yet forgotten a basic mining technique."








The mineral is an anti-gravity substance that floats. Midway through the movie, we learn there are entire mountains of it floating above Pandora. So why not mine the floating mountains, where no Pandorans live, rather than go to war with the natives? The clichéd super-heartless corporation that wants the mineral is depicted as obsessed by profit. War is a lot more expensive than mining! If profit is what motivates the corporation, war is the last thing it would want.






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Because hardly anything in the movie is explained, we never find out what nation or organization has built a huge base on Pandora, then brought along an armada of combat aircraft. The Earth characters all look, act and talk like Americans -- in fact, slang hasn't changed in 150 years! But does this project have some kind of government approval, or is it an interplanetary criminal enterprise? It's hard to believe that 150 years from now, humanity's first interaction with another sentient species would be conducted without any public officials present, but that's what is depicted.








And who are the gun-toting fatigue-clad personnel commanded by the ultra-evil Colonel Quaritch -- are they regular military, mercenaries, private security contractors? Audiences never find out. They're just a bunch of trigger-happy killers who want to slaughter intelligent beings, and all of them but one do exactly what Colonel Quaritch says, even once it's clear Quaritch is insane. The colonel must work for somebody -- for the Pentagon, some government agency, for the corporation. So why isn't he subject to supervision? No organization would entrust a project costing trillions of dollars -- a town-sized facility has been built five light-years away -- to a single individual with unchecked power. You'd worry that the single individual would commit some huge blunder that wiped out your trillion-dollar investment, which ends up being exactly what happens. I found the colonel with absolute authority a lot more unrealistic than the floating mountains.








Then there's director James Cameron's view of military personnel. If I were a military man or woman, I would find "Avatar" insulting. With one exception, the helicopter pilot played by Michelle Rodriguez -- her character is twice referred to as a Marine, suggesting the military personnel are regular military, not mercenaries -- all the people in fatigues are brainless sadists. They want to kill, kill, kill the innocent. They can't wait to begin the next atrocity. It's true that the U.S. military has conducted atrocities, in Vietnam and during the Plains Indians wars. But slaughter of the innocent is rare in U.S. military annals. In "Avatar," it's the norm. The bloodthirsty military personnel readily comply with the colonel's orders to gun down natives. No one questions him -- though in martial law, a soldier not only may but must refuse an illegal order. Plus the military personnel are depicted as such utter morons -- not a brain in any of their heads -- that none notice the TOTALLY OBVIOUS detail that Pandora's unusual biology will be worth more than its minerals. Yes, movies traffic in absurd super-simplifications. But we're supposed to accept that of the deployment of several hundred, every soldier save one is a low-IQ cold-blooded murderer.






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What does "Avatar" build up to? Watching the invading soldiers -- most of whom happen to be former American military personnel -- die is the big cathartic ending of the flick. Extended sequences show Americans being graphically slaughtered in the natives' counterattack. The deaths of aliens are depicted as heartbreaking tragedies, while the deaths of American security forces are depicted as a whooping good time. In Cameron's "Aliens," "The Abyss" and his television show "Dark Angel," U.S. military personnel are either the bad guys or complete idiots, often shown graphically slaughtered. Cameron is hardly the only commercial-film director to present watching evil U.S. soldiers slaughtered as popcorn-chomping suburban shopping mall fun: in the second "X-Men" flick, U.S. soldiers are the bad guys and graphically killed off. Films that criticize the military for its faults are one thing: When did watching depictions of U.S. soldiers dying become a form of fun?
 

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Avatar represents finding a new society much like in The Chronicles of Narnia or Harry Potter. It is fun to picture yourelf as the main protagonist and see it through his eyes. Although the movie has "white guilt" themes, it is more about finding that fairytale land. That is what attracts people to it, like me. If it were black invaders, I'd never sympasize with the main character to begin with even if he hated his people, so it has to be made this way. I liked it. There is no other way to make it more attractive to the masses. I'd sure love to live in Lord of the Rings or Star Wars too.

Inglorious Bastards on the other hand.....my friends got mad at me because I refused to watch it.
 

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yeah i liked the movie also...the bad guys were white, but so were all the good guys too
 

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"When will whites stop making these movies and start thinking about race in a new way?" wrote Newitz, who is white.

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I'd really like to ask this guy, "When will white people stop looking for racist undertones in places it doesn't exist?" Its guys like him who are the problem, nitpicking every single detail to find any slight hints of "racism". Not to mention he's missing the theme of the movie entirely.

What's worse is that this is a white guy. The further away we get from the Civil Rights Era (60's and 70's, that stuff) and the more and more i see white people calling out supposed racism by whites, the more i feel it is just sad attempts at making others believe they are more "worldly" and holier-than-thou than us racist buffoons. It feels so watered down.
 

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jcolec02 said:
yeah i liked the movie also...the bad guys were white, but so were all the good guys too
I did too! A great movie! Saw nothing wrong at all.

The Newitz guy is a typical Jewish bird-brain!
 

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I don't think many people will get any deep ideas from the movie. Hell if people were that perceptive we might not be in the shape we're in now.
 

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This is a little off subject, but the 3-D effects in the movie were amazing, especially in the IMAX theatre.
 

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jaxvid said:
I don't think many people will get any deep ideas from the movie. Hell if people were that perceptive we might not be in the shape we're in now.

Maybe you're right, jax. I enjoyed the movie but I'd have preferred less overt politics. I mean really, did he have to say they were using a 'shock and awe' campaign? And talking about fighting terror with terror?

The problem I see (going way too deep perhaps) with this is the recurrence of the 'Noble Savage' myth. Like I explained to one friend who saw the movie, they attempt to portray everything among the Na'vi and on Pandora as wonderful, everything and everyone in harmony, etc, with the implication that this is how it would be here on Earth were we more in 'tune with nature.'

How fun is nature without antibiotics, medicine, hot and cold running water, air conditioning, anti-venom, etc?

I mean, when they were on the cliffs capturing their flying steeds, there were hundreds of these giant dragon things clinging to the rocks and flying around. No bird sh*t anywhere? ;)

It was a fun movie. I really enjoyed it. I especially liked the colonel character in command of the Marines. But there was a message in it, and I think a lot of people will take that message home with them. I know a few people who have seen it who mentioned these 'talking points' in conversation about the movie.
 

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Could take this film seriously, i mean look at the aliens, were they designed by a homosexual 14 year old boy?
 

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White Shogun said:
The problem I see (going way too deep perhaps) with this is the recurrence of the 'Noble Savage' myth. Like I explained to one friend who saw the movie, they attempt to portray everything among the Na'vi and on Pandora as wonderful, everything and everyone in harmony, etc, with the implication that this is how it would be here on Earth were we more in 'tune with nature.'

How fun is nature without antibiotics, medicine, hot and cold running water, air conditioning, anti-venom, etc?

I mean, when they were on the cliffs capturing their flying steeds, there were hundreds of these giant dragon things clinging to the rocks and flying around. No bird sh*t anywhere? ;)

It was a fun movie. I really enjoyed it. I especially liked the colonel character in command of the Marines. But there was a message in it, and I think a lot of people will take that message home with them. I know a few people who have seen it who mentioned these 'talking points' in conversation about the movie.



Agree 100%
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I think that avatar is sort of like a ink blot test. There is sort of a generic story and you see what ever is floating around loose in your brain. personally saw the movie as an allegory of the peace loving agrarian in the pre-1860 South being attacked by the money grubbing Yankees in the North.
 
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