American Samoans

[bigunreal]

Wow- if Gary's figures are accurate, then the NFL is drawing more
defensive players from a group of 375,000 than from the millions of
whites in the United States. You can say Samoans are big or whatever,
but something like that is mathematically impossible, unless there is a
conscious program to this effect on the part of those running the
league. Just think of all the hard-working white youngsters, who sweat
and toil and produce for high school programs across the country, who
not only have to fight for the few places left for them after all the
black players are given preferential treatment, but now apparently have
to actually step farther back in line behind yet another favored
minority group. I have nothing against Samoans per se, but it's
absolutely ridiculous that there are as many or more of them in the NFL
now than there are white players.

 

[Gary]

Yes it's called the Caste System!!

 

[Realistic]

One thing you're forgetting in the comparison with Iceland and Samoa is
that the Samoans see football as an opportunity and play it at a young
age. They don't do that in Iceland. That's why the world's
strongest men competitors are incredible physical specimens but rarely
make the transition to football, they're way behind at learning the
skills. Now when the Swedes, Norwegians, Germans, Icelanders and
Russians all start playing football in grade school you'll really see
what big strong white guys can do on a football field. The
Russians and Bulgarians have dominated strength sports in the past,
they would be incredible if they started football at the same age as
the Americans.

 

[Freedom]

Troy Polamalu can hardly be considered the standard
Samoan stereotype in the NFL. For one thing, Troy is a
safety. Troy does not rely on his immense size or strength and
plays a skill position.

Secondly, how many of the Samoans are of
Samoan descent and how many are from American Samoa. I read in SI
a while back that American Samoa has as big a highschool football
tradition than Texas or Florida.

 

[JD074]

I don't hate all black players, I just don't care about them... at all. I'm sick of the whole system and I don't want to root for any black athlete, ever. I don't care how nice a black guy is, how good he is, how nice his parents are, I don't give a sh*t. I'm not rooting for him. As for other non-whites, I'll root for them to beat a black, like in a boxing match, but I don't give a sh*t about them either.

Another reason to root against all non-white athletes- especially blacks- is that their success has an indirectly negative impact on the perception of white athletes. People see Kobe Bryant score 81 points and it has a deep psychological impact on them. Why else would some disgusting white loser have a heart attack over his precious black athlete fumbling the ball? It's sick and pathetic.

On the other hand, it's good to have some less militant people on the board. People who read through these posts will see that we're not all "Angry White Men," and that probably boosts our legitimacy a little bit. But, personally, my idea of a good time is not sitting around and chatting about how much I like some black or Somoan or Asian player. No offense. Do what you want.

Until things change, if you don't want to watch any of these guys, you'd probably be better served if you just stopped watching sports altogether.

I'm sure some of us have contemplated that option many, many times. I know I have. Then again, I don't watch sports that closely anyway. I'm either channel-surfing or using the computer with the TV on. I would hate just sitting there and watching an NBA or NFL game all the way through. It'd be brutal. I don't know how you guys can stand it.

 

[bigunreal]

JDO74,



I'm with you. There is so much worship of non-white athletes, with the
really bad ones vying with the few good ones for the most attention.
It's just sickening to watch those lame, wannabe comedians on ESPN
salivate over the ridiculous, childish antics of a T.O. or a Chad
Johnson, and just as bad to hear them grovel at the feet of a Jerome
Bettis or a Tiki Barber. Even Chris Rock recognized how low the
threshold is for black "success" when he joked about them bragging that
"I ain't never been to prison" or "I take care of my kids." His witty
retort to this, which you will never hear from any of those white
jock-sniffing "journalists," was: "You stupid !@#!$#%$$, you ain't
supposed to be in prison! You're supposed to take care of your kids!"
If a black athlete manages to stay away from commiting crimes, he has
earned the respect of most people in our society. Wouldn't it be great
if all we, as white men, had to do to become a "success" and have
everyone respect us, was to refrain from criminal activity and speak
the language reasonably well?

 

[White Shogun]

JD,
I think I might one of the 'less militant' people on the board, but I'm in agreement with 99% of your post, too.

I just don't happen to think that everyone who is not-white can't also be a good athlete and a good person. But acknowledging that fact is a far cry from fawning over athletes, be they black, brown *or* white. But chatting about these guys and sports in general must be some idea of a good time, otherwise we wouldn't sit here and torture ourselves pounding away on our keyboards.

I'm either channel-surfing or using the computer with the TV on.

Thats about the only way I watch any television at all, including sports; as a glance over my shoulder when something sounds interesting.

 

[JD074]

Great point, Bigunreal. A black athlete is such a "wonderful human being" simply for being a good person. Meanwhile, a white athlete has to literally get killed while fighting a war in Afghanistan before he can obtain that "wonderful human being" title.

I agree with you, too, Shogun.