All the Brothas lost yesterday

[Colonel_Reb]

WhiteRB: Quarterbacks of course! They don't suffer the indignity of being pushed into another position like whites do. They will have at least 5-8 years to prove that they are sucky QB's and then they will spend the next 15-20 years going from team to team as journeymen QB's, thereby robbing many deserving whites of starting and backup slots that would normally be open for them if not for coaches bringing in people who shouldn't be playing the position or either shouldn't be drafted at all.

 

[Guest]

WhiteRB: Quarterbacks of course! They don't suffer the indignity of being pushed into another position like whites do.

Thats not entirely accurate Reb. Whilst I agree that most of these guys will never be more than journeyman backups if they do play QB... The league seems to have it in for athletic quaterbacks in general, except for his royal highness vick. Plenty of blacks have been forced to move away from QB to WR - Hines Ward, Randel El, Ronald Curry, that Browns kick return guy etc. Although I can tell you how good these guys would be at QB -not great, but much better thanScena Wallace

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My prediction is that Jacobs and Smith will be moved to WR whilst Young will be a slower, taller Michael Vick, with just as bad an arm.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

I hope you are right WhiteRB. The only response I have is that most of the guys you mentioned have been in the league for a few years, and the push for black QB's and athletic QB's wasn't as great then as it is now. The push to get rid of the supposedly unathletic white QB's is getting stronger every year, with a few exceptions. They are trying to cram them down our throats even more now than 6-8 years ago.

 

[Uberberserker]

"Plenty of blacks have been forced to move away from QB to WR - Hines Ward, Randel El, Ronald Curry, that Browns kick return guy etc"

Heck there have even been some Whites that have had to move from QB to reciever! Matt Jones, Drew Bennett, even an Oregon Ducks QB named Jason Fife had to move from QB to WR to try and make it onto the Miami Dolphins a few yeard ago. (he has moved back to QB though since and last I heard he tried to make it onto the Vikings, I think he got cut but am not 100% sure)

My explaination for this is that there is a big demand for Wide Recievers right now, why that is I am not sure.

 

[right winger]

Most of the black college QBs who are switched to different positions are smurf sized like Randel El, or were very inaccurate with their throwing. Additionally, contrary to the "cannon arm" every black QB is supposed to possess, many have weak arms. Another reason was there was no hope that they would be able to decipher defensives at the next level.

Those are very rarely the reasons why white quarterbacks have been forced to change positions. Outstanding running ability (Eric Crouch, Scott Frost, Bradley Van Pelt, Steve Bellasari,Matt Jones, Drew Bennett, etc.) is the common denominator.

So the exact same ability -- very good running skills -- that has been used to justify trying to make black RBs into quarterbacks, has for whites been used as a liability to force running white quarterbacks into trying to become wide receivers, tight ends and safeties. It's obviously a very racist practice, but because it occurs against whites, no one in the media would dare speak out about it, and 99% of the fans take their cues from the media and accept whatever explanation is fed to them by the authoritative "experts" in the media.

 

[GWTJ]

Well, all of the black QB's lost today. Punk Vick, Aaron Brooks and Steve McNair. Byron Leftwich won but since his team was playing McNair's team, one of them had to win. There's only 4 black starting QB's right now in the NFL. With the Titan's and Saints both sucking there will be at most 2 black QB's in the playoffs. Neither one seems likely to advance to the Super Bowl.

 

[Bart]

Did anyone see the end of the Falcons - Bucs game? I saw an incomplete downfield pass thrown by Vick thatwas nullified by an iffy pass interference callwhich had me wondering. But when a Tampa lineman made a nice play on Vick as he was scrambling to his left looking to throw or run, another flag comes flying out for aroughing the passer penalty.That had to be one of themost bogus penalties I've ever seen.

 

[White Shogun]

Bart, I mentioned the same thing to my buddy during the game. My take is that Vick gets a couple extra calls per game his way because he is THE Superstar of the NFL. Much like top stars in the NBA get away with traveling and carrying the ball, charging, and so on, the refs will cut Vick more slack because of who he is, but not necessarily because of some conspiracy where the refs are told to do so by Tagliabue.

If it is ingrained in the minds of the fans and the players that Vick is some kinda uberathlete, why should we expect that the refs will think any differently?

 

[Uberberserker]

Well I think that there are an inordinate amount of 'roughing the passer' type penalties now-a-days because the NFL DOES NOT want any starting QB getting hurt unnecessarily.

They realize that some fans in general are not going to tune it to watch back-ups and also the league wants to have as much competitive parity as possible, which is one of the secrets of the NFLs success (a sharp contrast to Baseball where large market teams with massive amounts of money just buy all the good players and every year small market teams suck, like the brewers) Oh and teams spend alot of money on these starting QBs as well and don't want to see that massive investment sitting at home watching the game in a cast.

Believe it or not I think this is one of the few rare things that actually works in favor of White Players because many are pigeon-holed into the pocket-passer type and this actually protects them.