ACLU Accuses New Mexico St. Football Coac

[jaxvid]

How is this the business of the ACLU?

ACLU Accuses New Mexico St. Football Coach

LAS CRUCES, N.M. - TheAmerican Civil Liberties Union of New Mexico has filed a grievance against New Mexico State football coach Hal Mumme, saying he discriminated against a now-released Muslim player by repeatedly questioning him about al-Qaida.

The grievance, filed Tuesday on behalf of former Aggies running back Muammar Ali, also said the football staff required the team to recite the Lord's Prayer at the end of each practice.

The ACLU, which said Ali does not want to return to the Aggies to play for Mumme, is seeking a public apology from Mumme and disciplinary action against him, and also asked that the school provide diversity training to all students and employees.

Athletic director McKinley Boston confirmed the university had received the complaint. He said the issue will be investigated but indicated there will be no further comment "to ensure the integrity of the investigation."

The grievance, written by ACLU staff attorney George Bach of Albuquerque, said Mumme questioned Ali repeatedly in July about "Islam and specifically its ties to al-Qaida," the terrorist organization headed byOsama bin Laden.

Those actions "smack of religious discrimination sufficient to warrant a complete and immediate investigation by the NMSU Office of Institutional Equity," the ACLU said.

Peter Simonson, the ACLU's executive director in Albuquerque, said the organization filed the grievance rather than a lawsuit to give the university a chance to deal with the issue internally. He said the ACLU also is considering sending a letter to theNCAA.

The grievance also notes that the Aggies released two other Muslim players, twin brothers Anthony and Vincent Thompson, in August.

 

[robcat]

Hal Mumme sounds like the typical Christian Zionist brainwashed by Limbaugh and Pat Roberson types to hate arabs and Muslims and regard them as enemies of Christianity while worshiping everything about Zionist Israel, which is an anti-Arab and anti-Christian country by its laws and by its racial-theocratic-police state form of government, which is promoted with straight faces as a "democracy." It is a democracy if you are a Jew living there, but everyone else must lead lives of squalor, racially and religious based discrimination and face endless daily humiliations that crushes the soul.

And these Palestinians are the real "Semites" along with the poorer Sephardic Jews. These two groups are dominanted by and discriminated against by the European Jews,called Ashkenazi who are not semitic at all, they are a Russo-Turk people who cunningly decided to adopt Judaism as their religion over 8 centuries after the persecution of Christ. The European Ashkenazi Jews are the ones who came up with such diseases as Communism, Marxism, Bolshevism, liberalism, socialism, neo-conservatism, feminism,multicuturalism, multiracialism, war between men and women, the sexualizing of girls at very young ages, the promotion of homosexuality as superior to love between men and women and the traditional family. And oh yes they also invented the Caste System as an important part of their goal of emasculating white men and uplifting the lowly status of black men through contrived success in entertainment and sports in order to make them sexually desirable to white women. So many well meaning Christian Zionists are actually aiding and abetting that which is quickly finishing the job of destroying everything that was good, wholesome and right about America, including gutting it internally through greed and plunder and externally through insane wars of aggression overseas.

 

[Southern Knight]

Very comprehensive post, robcat.



You should paste it in every topic on this board because it explains
everything that we complain about here, as well as generally in our
society. Nice to see that somebody else gets it.

 

[White Shogun]

It is entirely possible that Muammar Ali can't play football worth a sh*t, so he was cut. We don't know how many other Muslims players are still on the team, either, although its possible that all three of those cited in the suit just weren't good enough to make the cut, regardless of their religion.

It is entirely possible that his coach talked to his player about his religion out of curiosity, and wanted to learn how other Muslims felt about Al-Queda and its use of Islam as a political tool. We don't know if he made derogatory comments, insulted him, or simply had a conversation about it. We don't know if it was a student initiated conversation - maybe he couldn't practice on Friday because he had to go to prayer, or couldn't be seen naked by other men, or he couldn't eat the food served in the cafeteria because it wasn't halal. Who knows? You're trusting the MEDIA to report this incident accurately?? GIVE ME A BREAK.

Its also entirely possible that Muammar Ali is using his religion as a weapon against the university. Can't make the football team - coach cut me because I'm Muslim. Or gay. Or whatever. Never because you can't play football worth a s***. The other two guys were cut in August, but Muammar made it til October. Sounds like discrimination to me - I dunno, maybe he should have been cut at the same time as the other two?

And maybe Muammar and his friends at the ACLU should undergo a little diversity training themselves. They're pissed because the team recites the Lord's Prayer?? WTF?

All I see is another WHITE athletic coach who in all probability is going to lose his job because some politically correct diversity ******* couldn't make the team, and the guy who cut him didn't care for his religion.

 

[Guest]

Hal Mumme sounds like the typical Christian Zionist
brainwashed by Limbaugh and Pat Roberson types to hate arabs and
Muslims and regard them as enemies of Christianity while worshiping
everything about Zionist Israel, which is an anti-Arab and
anti-Christian country by its laws and by its racial-theocratic-police
state form of government, which is promoted with straight faces as a
"democracy." It is a democracy if you are a Jew living there, but
everyone else must lead lives of squalor, racially and religious based
discrimination and face endless daily humiliations that crushes the
soul.


And these Palestinians are the real "Semites" along with the poorer
Sephardic Jews. These two groups are dominanted by and discriminated
against by the European Jews,called Ashkenazi who are not semitic at
all, they are a Russo-Turk people who cunningly decided to adopt
Judaism as their religion over 8 centuries after the persecution of
Christ. The European Ashkenazi Jews are the ones who came up with such
diseases as Communism, Marxism, Bolshevism, liberalism, socialism,
neo-conservatism, feminism,multicuturalism, multiracialism, war between
men and women, the sexualizing of girls at very young ages, the
promotion of homosexuality as superior to love between men and women
and the traditional family. And oh yes they also invented the Caste
System as an important part of their goal of emasculating white men and
uplifting the lowly status of black men through contrived success in
entertainment and sports in order to make them sexually desirable to
white women. So many well meaning Christian Zionists are actually
aiding and abetting that which is quickly finishing the job of
destroying everything that was good, wholesome and right about America,
including gutting it internally through greed and plunder and
externally through insane wars of aggression overseas.

Man, there is almost nothing true in this post. First off,
Sephardic Jews are from Spain/Portugal/North Africa and have nothing to
do with middle eastern Jews, which are Arabs, Turks, etc. (Yes, a great
many of the Jews in Isreal are Arab, seeing as how hundreds of
thousands were kicked out of their home countries). Secondly, Ashkenazi
Jews are not Russo/Turk but more tied to Germany and other parts of
central and western Europe. They did not just suddenly "decide" to
become Jews, but rather were largely part of the great diasporia after
Jerusalem was sacked during the first Crusade.



As for Israel being a "theocratic" state, thats a laugh. I suggest you
check out true theocratic states, like say just about every Muslim
nation in the world sans Turkey. Arab Muslim citizens in Israel
have the same right to vote and such as any other group, but where is
that true in the Muslim middle east?



If you want to find out what the real problem worldwide is, why don't
you just ask the Christians and animists of southern Sudan, the
Buhddists of Taiwan, whats left of the Hindus in Bangladesh, the
Christians of Nigeria, the Hindus in India, the Buddhists and
Christians in Indonesia, ad infinitum. Its called "the bloody borders
of Islam." But everyone must be picking on them, right?



I say three cheers for Hal Mumme. When you've got mullahs all over
talking about a worldwide Caliphate and slaughtering the Infidel,
I say its about time to ask Muslims some pointed questions about what
they believe. When someone says they are going to kill you, believe
them.



The part of your post about Jews being responsible for every bad idea
of the last century, well its got at least a grain of truth to it.
They've been a big part in pushing all sorts of ugly brands of
liberalism and radicalism, but let's face it, nothing would have
happened without armies of white american contributing or just simply
following in lockstep like sheep. Marxism was nothing but a Jewish
crackpot's theory until white and asian athiests and their fellow
travelers turned it into a worldwide nightmare. The biggest
contributors to liberalism and multiculturalism in America have been
black Americans who vote en masse for it.



And before you accuse me, I am not Jewish and don't even know anyone who is Jewish.

 

[Guest]

Its also entirely possible that Muammar Ali
is using his religion as a weapon against the university. Can't make
the football team - coach cut me because I'm Muslim. Or gay. Or
whatever. Never because you can't play football worth a s***. The other
two guys were cut in August, but Muammar made it til October. Sounds
like discrimination to me - I dunno, maybe he should have been cut at
the same time as the other two?


And maybe Muammar and his friends at the ACLU should undergo a
little diversity training themselves. They're pissed because the team
recites the Lord's Prayer?? WTF?


All I see is another WHITE athletic coach who in all probability is
going to lose his job because some politically correct diversity
******* couldn't make the team, and the guy who cut him didn't care for
his religion.

Great post White Shogun, you've cut straight to the heart of the
matter. You remember the girl kicker who was cut from Duke because she
couldn't kick to save her life?



The only thing the wonderful ACLU cannot tolerate is open displays of Christianity.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

The only thing the wonderful ACLU cannot tolerate is open displays of Christianity.

I just cringe every Christmas waiting to hear of another nativity scene or cross being banned from public display. It is sickening!

 

[whiteCB]

As long as the nativity scene isn't in front of a government building and is not on public lands. I too then have no problem.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Why not put it in front of public buildings? The government teaches the evolutionary theory as fact in our classrooms. Evolutionary theory is based on the religion of rationalism and liberalism, which goes against my beliefs, and my tax dollars have to support it. I say putting a nativity scene up in front of a public place for a month out of a year is bringing some measure of balance to the situation, and even then it isn't even close.

 

[Bart]

And these Palestinians are the real "Semites" along with the poorer Sephardic Jews. These two groups are dominanted by and discriminated against by the European Jews,called Ashkenazi who are not semitic at all, they are a Russo-Turk people who cunningly decided to adopt Judaism as their religion over 8 centuries after the persecution of Christ..

I agree with your post Robcat.The Sepharadim have been considered second-class in Israel. The Ashkenazim are the upper class rulers holding the reigns of power.


From a Jewsih on-line source: [url]http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/Sephardi m.html[/url]
After the establishment of the State of Israel, conditions for Jews in many Islamic countries grew increasingly uncomfortable and, in some cases, their lives were threatened. In the 1950's and 1960's, tens of thousands of Sephardic Jews fled from North Africa and other countries in the Middle East to settle in Israel, usually being forced by the Muslim authorities to leave behind most of their worldly possessions. Once they came to Israel, most of the Sephardic immigrants were put in transit camps and became dependent on welfare. The conditions in these camps were very bad and it was difficult for the newcomers to work their way out of the lower rung of Israeli society because they had less education than the established Ashkenazic community. Consequently, many worked in blue-collar professions.
Today, tensions remain between Ashkenazim and Sephardim in Israel because of the poor treatment the latter received and the long, difficult road Sephardic Jews have had to travel to approach parity in society. Though they have not yet achieved equality, Sephardic Jews increasingly occupy positions of prestige and influence. Moroccan-born David Levy, for example, has served as foreign minister and, in July 2000, Iranian-born Moshe Katsav was elected president.

 

[robcat]

Kaiser Sose, here are the basic points I am trying to make. So called "anti-Semitism" has been regularly charged in this country to the point that it is the best example that can be cited that human beings can be as surely trained to react in certain ways as Pavlovs dogs, or lab mice. But the vast majority of Jews in the U.S. are not "Semites," they are Ashkenazi Jews from southeastern Europe/southwestern Asia who converted to Judaism in the 9th century AD. So this whole smear word anti-semite doesnt even apply to American Jews, but Palestinians and Arabs ARE Semites. So at play here is the typical Orwellianism (up is down, war is peace, diversity is our strength, totalitarianism is democracy) that rules America.

Next point, I am not pro-Muslim. But I am not anti-Muslim either. Christians like Hal Mumme have been trained to hate arabs and muslims by the same pseudo-"semites" that go berserk when anyone observes Jews in a racial or religous way that is not slavishly pro-Jewish (or pro-Semitic in Orwellian terms).

If America did not allow non-Europeans and non-Christians to flood our country, and if we did not meddle in the Middle East solely on behalf of Israel, Muslims would have no quarrel with us nor us with them. This "clash of civilizations" has nothing to do with Christians, it is American Jews manipulating and using Christians in THEIR war against Muslims. That is what is destroying America.

 

[Uberberserker]

Secondly, Ashkenazi Jews are not Russo/Turk but more tied to Germany and other parts of central and western Europe. They did not just suddenly "decide" to become Jews, but rather were largely part of the great diasporia after Jerusalem was sacked during the first Crusade.

Whoa, you need to check your history.

Jerusalem was sacked by the Romans in about 70 C.E. and that sent alot of the jews packing. Many of them traveled North and became part of what is known as Khazaria. Eventually many of these Khazars converted to jew-daism and these Asiatic peoples are what are known today as Ashkenazi jews. The best souce of information on all this is a book (now online) titled: The Thirteenth Tribe - The Khazar Empire and its Heritage by Arthur Koestler

I may get into the Zionist Entities Theocratic Nature later...

Hopefully all the semetic religions will end up destroying each other (a real possibility in this Century) and White Pagans, who have moved out of the way of this coming Tidal Wave, can move back in after it is all over with and build something new.

Also I don't see that Hal Mumme did anything that would deserve anything more then a slap on the wrists (and that is assuming the allegations are accurate). That muslims would complain about something like this when they are at the same time loudly blasting calls to prayer in the streets (I have heard this is pretty common now in the mid-west) is ridiculous and further like behavior may fuel even more anti-muslim sentiment.

 

[Guest]

Next point, I am not pro-Muslim. But I am not
anti-Muslim either. Christians like Hal Mumme have been trained to hate
arabs and muslims by the same pseudo-"semites" that go berserk when
anyone observes Jews in a racial or religous way that is not slavishly
pro-Jewish (or pro-Semitic in Orwellian terms).


If America did not allow non-Europeans and non-Christians to flood
our country, and if we did not meddle in the Middle East solely on
behalf of Israel, Muslims would have no quarrel with us nor us with
them. This "clash of civilizations" has nothing to do with Christians,
it is American Jews manipulating and using Christians in THEIR war
against Muslims. That is what is destroying America.

No, the Muslims certainly wouldn't have any quarrel with anyone else.
Please tell that to the Buddhist teachers in southern Thailand who are
being beheaded by Muslim immigrants, the Christian Indonesian villages
that have been brutally slaughtered by Jihadists (you can find pictures
on the net if you wish), the Hindus that were ethnically cleansed in
Bangladesh, the Coptic Christians that live like dogs in Egypt, the
Christians and animists killed and elslaved in Sudan, and on and on and
on.



Please explain these atrocities in the context of Israel. Take off the blinders.

 

[White Shogun]

Christians like Hal Mumme have been trained to hate arabs and muslims by the same pseudo-"semites" that go berserk when anyone observes Jews in a racial or religous way that is not slavishly pro-Jewish (or pro-Semitic in Orwellian terms).

How do you know this guy hates muslims and arabs? Because he cut a couple muslims from his football team? Thats a stretch. Maybe Muamar was an *******. Maybe he couldn't play football. Maybe the coach was tired of his complaining about practice on Fridays. Maybe the coach was tired of his complaining about saying the Lord's Prayer after practice.

Maybe everybody is sick and tired of kowtowing to these ********, who chant diversity and I GOT MY RIGHTS every time you turn around, until you want pork for lunch or to have a piggy bank in your cubicle. Then diversity is out the window and you have to bend to what they want, period.

Its perfectly reasonable to dislike some people, without having to be told to do so by the JEWS.

 

[Southern Knight]

"Maybe everybody is sick and tired of kowtowing to these ********, who
chant diversity and I GOT MY RIGHTS every time you turn around, until
you want pork for lunch or to have a piggy bank in your cubicle."



Lest you think that White Shogun is engaging in hyberbole, you should
know that a Muslim cleric in the UK is raising hell to have banks
stopped from giving away piggy banks to their customers. Never
mind that piggy-banks are a British tradition.



"Die-versity" means White submission to everything non-White. The
backlash against radical Islam must also include the people responsible
for bringing Muslims into our midst -- Jews. I believe it was
Edgar Steele that said "Jews hate Muslims, but they REALLY hate
Christians." That's why Jews are in favor of open borders.

 

[kevin]

The ACLU can't tolerate any type of dicrimination, Unless it is anti-white.

 

[Colonel Callan]

"robcat" is dead on. These people have worked as a group, behind the
scenes, to destroy the West (the US in particular), to make it a puppet,
their Golem - a la the US in Iraq. They want whites marginalized, to be
their 'sheep', which in fact is what goyim means. Yes, they are behind the
caste system in sports. I posted this infamous quote in another thread:

"We must realize that our party's most powerful weapon is racial tension.
By pounding into the consciousness of the dark races, that for centuries
they have been oppressed by whites, we can mold them into the program
of the Communist Party. In America, we aim for several victories. While
inflaming the Negro minorities against the whites, we will instill in the
whites a guilt complex for their supposed exploitation of the Negroes. We
will aid the Blacks to rise to prominence in every walk of life and in the
world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige,, the Negro will be
able to intermarry with the whites and will begin the process which will
deliver America to our cause." (Jewish Playwright Israel Cohen, A Radical
Program For The Twentieth Century. Also entered into the Congressional
Record on June 7, 1957, by Rep. Thomas Abernathy).

Cohen made this statement around 1915!

The 'plan' really took hold once the bolshevists gained full power in the
US during the mid 60's (Immigration Act of 1965, Snivel... I mean Civil
Rights used to restrict whites, etc.). They work as a group behind the
scenes, buying off politicos, using media control, while making sure
whites are not allowed to work in groups that could benefit them as a
whole. If you think they have nothing to do with the caste system in
sports, you are naive. I would like to see what beind closed doors deals,
threats, promises and the like were made to ensure that the
commisioners of the NBA, NHL, MLB and NFL were all of the same "tribe".
Just coincidence, right? (I will admit that I feel far too many white 'officials'
are weak when it comes to turning down monetary bribes or promises of
power - never looking out for their race first, like the Ashkenazi and
others do) It's like the coincidences in track and field that I have written
about - except that I haven't gotten around to pointing out how many of
the responsible parties are of Ashkenazi extraction, whether they are
officials in the US protecting crooked black athletes, or "European"
coaches and former athletes now working with black Africans who, for
some reason, enjoy all sorts of political protection from drug enforcement
and other behaviors that would disqualify athletes with lighter
complexions.

I don't want Don catching Hell from the usual suspects, but there is a
portion of this crowd that is dedicated to running whites out of every
arena of human endeavor, whether it's the sciences, arts, sports, you
name it. It appears to literally be an inborn malevolence. Read the works
of Dr. Kevin MacDonald. Very courageous man.
Edited by: Colonel Callan

 

[JD074]

Why not put it in front of public buildings? The government teaches the evolutionary theory as fact in our classrooms. Evolutionary theory is based on the religion of rationalism and liberalism, which goes against my beliefs, and my tax dollars have to support it. I say putting a nativity scene up in front of a public place for a month out of a year is bringing some measure of balance to the situation, and even then it isn't even close.

I'm not a Christian, but I'm actually with you on this one, Colonel. According to Pat Buchanan (Death of the West,) the original cultural Marxists were very clear in their intent to destroy Christianity as one of the means to destroy Western civilization. For decades political activists, judicial activists (including Supreme Court Justices,) politicians, media, professors, artists, and even pastors and priests have been waging that campaign of cultural destruction.

Putting up the Ten Commandments or Christmas decorations isn't exactly "establishing a national religion." We're being bankrupted morally, spiritually, psychologically, and even physically (a la the Caste System.) Tearing down all the symbols of Christianity, as well as the Confederacy, are just another means to their destructive ends.

 

[Guest]

I agree that this player was probably cut because he can't play ball, but people should never be 'required' to pray to any kind of god. I respect that alot of people here are religous, but if anyone ever tried to make me recite the lords prayer before a game or after practice or whatever, they would get a very polite description of what they could do with their prayer. Religion of all kinds has long been the cause of way too much conlict in this world.

 

[White Shogun]

if anyone ever tried to make me recite the lords prayer before a game or after practice or whatever, they would get a very polite description of what they could do with their prayer.

But would you prevent everyone else from praying, too? If 99% of the team wants to say the Lord's Prayer, should the practice be halted because 1% do not want to pray, or can they simply opt out, not bow their heads, or leave early? If you are kicked off the team because you do not want to participate, or are harassed, persecuted or otherwise hampered in your education or participation because of your religion or non-religion, then you have a bona fide case of discrimination.

But I am tired of minorities, be it in religion, sexual preference, ethnicity, or gender, telling everyone else they can't pray, eat pork, wear crosses, or have piggy banks in their cubicle. If we really wanted to diversity in this country, the Christian could wear his cross and have the 10 Commandments on the wall, the Muslim could recite the Koran on break, and the Wiccan could have magic charms hanging off her cubicle, all within full view and site of each other.

Try going to Saudi Arabia and insisting that they stop the call to prayer five times a day because you don't want to participate in daily prayers.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

JD074; you are right about the "establishment of a national religion," which is the only religious concept the Constitution specifically prohibits. This has been twisted since the 1940's into the so-called "seperation of church and state" line that everyone believes in now, and that includes everything from voluntary prayer, to the Ten Commandments, to the Pledge of Allegience. You are also correct that it has been a part of the communist/Jewish/socialist agenda for many years to rid America of its Christian foundation, and in so doing, the country itself. Now that Christianity has been demoted/reduced to a "fringe element" by the media and most intellectuals, we see the slide into moral and spiritual ruin going at an ever increasing pace. The attack on Confederate symbols is just an aside to this trend, albeit a connected aside. I will fight this assualt on truth any way I can, for as long as I can.

 

[JD074]

Well said, Shogun. Nobody should be forced to do a prayer (except for parents making their kids go to church and that sort of thing.) But nobody should be forced to not pray if that's what they want to do.

Now that Christianity has been demoted/reduced to a "fringe element" by the media and most intellectuals, we see the slide into moral and spiritual ruin going at an ever increasing pace. The attack on Confederate symbols is just an aside to this trend, albeit a connected aside.

Definitely connected. It's all about demolishing the West through tearing down its heritage, history, morals, culture, and ethnocentrism (or should I say instead, common sense, heh heh.) They've emptied the vessel and filled it with multiculturalism, hedonism, white male-bashing, radical egalitarianism, global socialism, etc.