A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 03

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Breaking news...

According to a report by Sports Illustrated, Alex Rodriguez tested positive for anabolic steroids in 2003, when he was with the Texas Rangers and won the AL home run title and MVP award.

According to the report, which was posted Saturday morning on SI.com, sources told the publication that Rodriguez was on a list of 104 players who tested positive that year, when Major League Baseball conducted tests to see if mandatory random drug testing was needed.

In 2003, there were no penalties for a positive result....



http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3890785



This will be interesting...Was this timed to get Barry Bonds out of the front page? How will it affect A-Rod's legacy. It will be interesting to see how the dominos fall...
 

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This was too easy to pick. I've been talking smack to my coworkers for years saying that A-Rod was on the juice. "No way, he's just that good" their reply would always be.

People who are stupid enough to waste their time watching professional baseball deserve a hero like A Rod.
 

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I've never found A-Rod to be too objectionable. It's such a shame that steroids have destroyed baseball. I'd honestly like to see a return to small ball.
 

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Stray Rod was doing things that have never been done before. Like I said in previous threads for the Queen of t Cougars(Madonna). Stray Rod and NYC and the Dominatrix are a perfect fit for each other.....
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A-Rod on steroids...what about his good buddy, Tiger Woods, who sports such a Superman physique in recent years?

Supposedly 104 players failed the test in 2003. Out of how many? There are 30 teams with 25-man rosters. 750? If so, we're not talking Canseco-claimed numbers, but still a pretty sizable percentage of active players.

How many more players were taking some designer PEDs that the test 6 years did not detect? I'm just speculating, but I think it's well within the realm of imagination that more than 104 guys in MLB uniforms were juiced up during the 2003 season.

I hope the MLB powers-that-be watched the Super Bowl and realized how entrenched the NFL is as the American national pastime now.

MLB should be worried on many fronts. But then again, as long as enough people keep supporting them financially and they can make the big bucks, I guess they won't give a damn.
 

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Well, it's good that thiscelebrity hispanic will be taken down a few notches. He definitely looked like he was on steroids.


anybody see the negative comments joe torre made about a-rod in his new book?


"you never knew who would show up to play: a-rod or a-fraud."
 

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This list appeared in the Dallas Morning News. It's the Texas Rangers all-juiced team:


CF-Gary Matthews Jr (Mitchell Report)
C-Pudge Rodriguez (Teammate allegation)
SS-Alex Rodriguez (Media Report)
RF-Juan Gonzalez (Teammate allegation)
1B-Rafael Palmeiro (Tested Positive)
3B-Ken Caminiti (Acknowledged)
DH-David Segui (Acknowledged)
2B-Randy Valarde (Mitchell Report)
LF-Chad Allen (Mitchell Report)
 

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Where there's smoke there is usually fire. I never wanted to believe it about A-Rod, but I can't say that I'm surprised. Pudge was the most obvious - when he got off the juice, he showed up to Spring training 30 lbs lighter.

It's weird how some of the best, most competitive guys like Clemens, Bonds and A-Rod resort to steroids. It does lead to speculate about uber-competitive Tiger Woods and his physical transformation. How about Kobe Bryant and Jordan?
 

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I'd say Serena Williams is the most obvious likely user. She's as muscular as any of the men tennis players. But like with Tiger Woods, it seems to be an unmentionable subject.
 

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The weird thing with the steroid scandals is that they are often happening in sports that don't require brute strength to win. Baseball and tennis are more about flexibility and "flexible speed" then strength.

Heck, there was a punter in the NFL who tested positive for steroids. I've seen a kid who was a 110 pound squash player punt a football 60+ yards(not consistently but he never played football. It's ridiculous.
 

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More bad news for A-Fraud. The Cougar in Heat has started a new 3 month mating season. She has been seen around with a new boy toy. I guess it's off to Scores with Jeter and Matsuki.....
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So is A-Rod going to get the Giambi treatment? Booed by home and away crowds, called on the carpet by the commissioner, pressured by the press to admit his wrong doings which will buy him no forgiveness just eternal condemnation. All of his accomplishments credited solely to the use of steroids????

Now we'll really find out if the media considers him white or not.
 

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The NY area talk shows are coming down pretty hard on him. He does not have the strongest psyche--so if there is a lot of booing at home and away--we at CF can look forward to a 25 homer, 250 batting average season, ---pluslots of errors.


I hope he's tested again this season. Because he might figure, "what the hell i've been caught, I might as well leave New York 'roided upwith a 50 homer season."


I wonder if thisbecomes a stepping stone to a revelation about Pujols.
 

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jaxvid said:
Now we'll really find out if the media considers him white or not.


Joe Torre apparentlywasn't too fond of him. We'llhave to wait and see if he gets the Giambi, Clemens, McGwire treatment.
 

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Nobody on the team was too fond of A-Fraud. Supposedly he is an island on to himself. My joke about going off to Scores with Jeter and Matsuki wouldn't happen as he never would be invited.
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A while back I read that Richard Ben Cramer was working on a bio of Alex Rodriguez. Cramer is the author of the 2000 book, "Joe DiMaggio," subtitled "The Hero's Life." Some said that it made Joe D into a drip, a cheapskate, and a boor. What will be Cramer's take on A-Rod?
 

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Two White broadcasters from a local espn outlet in Pittsburgh while talking about A-rod's situation jumped all over Babe Ruth,pretty much calling him a drunk who repeatedly broke the law because he imbibed during prohibition,they were also critical of Mickey Mantle because of his drinking,proving once again that blame will be deflected awayfrom you if you are black or latin.
 

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Yeah, that's typical. Hope someone asked these broadcasters: how does being drunk improve your play/stats? And why no compassion for the drunk? It's not the worst of vices.
 

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LabMan said:
Two White broadcasters from a local espn outlet in Pittsburgh while talking about A-rod's situation jumped all over Babe Ruth,pretty much calling him a drunk who repeatedly broke the law because he imbibed during prohibition,they were also critical of Mickey Mantle because of his drinking,proving once again that blame will be deflected awayfrom you if you are black or latin.


Unbelievable!
 

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LabMan said:
Two White broadcasters from a local espn outlet in Pittsburgh while talking about A-rod's situation jumped all over Babe Ruth,pretty much calling him a drunk who repeatedly broke the law because he imbibed during prohibition,they were also critical of Mickey Mantle because of his drinking,proving once again that blame will be deflected awayfrom you if you are black or latin.


Gene Collier
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of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has an article critical of Rodriguez, but manages to work in Ben Roethlisberger as somehow morally equivalent. Collier just assumes that Roethlisberger was lying and being greedy when he said that he played with two broken ribs in the Super Bowl.


Even Melanie Griffith and Meg Ryan manage to be mentioned in this irrelevant writer's rambling mix of mumbo jumbo:
Meg Ryan and Melanie Griffith, rich and beautiful not being enough, pumped their lips full of something until they looked like Muppets.
Ben Roethlisberger, two-time Super Bowl champion and conspicuous Disney patron, found that all that and $102 million is not enough. Told SI's Peter King he did it with broken ribs. Dan, give him another $10 million. C'mon.
But don't get me wrong. It's not Big Ben's fault or Melanie Griffith's fault or financial pornographer Bernard Madoff's fault that Rodriguez had to throw himself at the feet of His Excellency Peter Gammons the other day. It's not baseball's fault, not the players union's fault (although that strong case will get made), not the government's fault, and not the media's fault.
It's A-Fraud's fault.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09042/948230-150.stm
 

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A-Rod's weak apology is sadly the best one so far


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=keown/090210


Even at his most vulnerable, even when he's pleading for acceptance publicly and uncomfortably, Alex Rodriguez can't make us care. He came clean, sure, but he came clean on his terms, with just enough clumsy parsing and hazy recollections to make us imagine he unclipped his microphone and walked away from the cameras saying, "OK, everybody -- I think that went very well."


Rodriguez came clean. He admitted doing something he once vehemently denied doing, but only after being caught dead to rights. And even then, he was just vague enough and just slippery enough to make you wonder how much of an admission you were getting.


Still, for his parsed and incomplete bout of public honesty, Rodriguez immediately becomes one of the more dignified members of the all-star class of baseball's steroids users.


Yes, that's how little we expect and how easily we move someone up the charts. Our expectations for honesty and decency from these guys are so exceedingly low that Rodriguez gained respect from admitting he cheated the game by using unnamed performance-enhancing drugs that he received from God knows where. He said he used for three years, but who knows? And who cares, really? Once someone lies so easily and definitively, as Rodriguez did to Katie Couric in 2007, everything is called into question.


It's a good thing, too, because Rodriguez's forced meeting with the truth kept him from the worst and most embarrassing performance by an athlete under pressure. The first comment he gave when confronted by Sports Illustrated -- "You'll have to talk to the union" -- would have gone down as one of the wimpiest and most pathetic comments of this wimpy and pathetic chapter of baseball's history.


You'll have to talk to the union. What a shameful little sidestep.


Shameful, but perfectly in keeping with every star not named Andy Pettitte, Jason Giambi or Jose Canseco. Baseball players pride themselves on being standup guys, on being macho and tough. So why is it that so many turn into sniveling, lying weasels when faced with uncomfortable truths about their own behavior?


And if they really believe taking this stuff isn't that big a deal -- and that's the impression Rodriguez gave when he talked about the "loosey-goosey" era and the "different culture" and "a lot of guys were doing a lot of stuff" -- why can't they own up to it? Why aren't they proud of it? After all, they were trying to earn their money and win the most games and give the dues-paying fans the best entertainment possible.


Really, where's the personal accountability with these guys? Where's the toughness? We can commend Rodriguez because he was more open and forthcoming than we ever could have expected, but the truth is, we expect so little. We've come to expect lying, so we accept lying.


Rodriguez might yet turn out to be the guy who clears the way for everybody to come clean. He might come to represent the much-needed tipping point that brings out the other 103 names and gets baseball past the cannabilistic steroids era.


It's easy to be skeptical of Rodriguez -- it's tough to get through the packaging -- but if we grade on the curve, he's the first real sign of hope.


In light of Rodriguez's admission, it's worth reviewing the list of greatest hits from users and alleged users of the recent past:


- Mark McGwire told a congressional hearing he wasn't there to talk about the past. Repeatedly. And then he said he would devote himself to educating children and making the world better. To no one's surprise, it's a promise he hasn't come close to fulfilling, or even starting. Unless, of course, silence will save the world.


- Rafael Palmeiro wagged his finger and lied to the same committee, and then tried to blame a positive test on his teammate Miguel Tejada. That was classy. Then Palmeiro disappeared.


- Sammy Sosa forgot how to speak English.


- Barry Bonds, a noted control freak, said he didn't know what he was putting in his body. He said he thought it was flaxseed oil. He repeatedly denied it until he became a defendant. He also showed wonderful loyalty by sitting back and letting his friend Greg Anderson do repeated jail stints to keep from testifying against him.


- Roger Clemens said he couldn't have used performance-enhancing drugs because he didn't grow a third ear. He also subscribed to the idea that volume -- especially when it is emitted from a great pitcher -- will overwhelm the truth.


Isn't this a great collection of upstanding American heroes? You know how they say sports don't build character, they reveal it? It might not be polite to say this, but what kind of people are these guys? How did Rodriguez live with himself when he was lying repeatedly for years, even if he didn't know about the positive test? And many people who know a lot about the process cast considerable doubt on whether he really was ignorant of the test results.


(By the way -- and there are many parentheticals when it comes to this -- Rodriguez is clearly confused about the legality of steroid use. Illegal in a baseball sense and illegal in a criminal, real-world sense are very different. Obtaining these steroids in the manner in which he did is as illegal as buying crack on a street corner.)


(Oh, and another thing: Was he auditioning for a GNC endorsement? After the third or fourth reference, I started to wonder.)


(And even one more other thing: Maybe we can just close the doors on the Hall of Fame. Really, if it's going to continue to be this weird obsession, looming over every the scene every time a name is released, maybe it's not worth the effort. Close it up, leave it to the old guys and call it good.)


But hey, Rodriguez came clean -- he took the blame and vowed to steer the youth of America down the right path. And wasn't there a part of you that expected Rodriguez to finish the interview by walking over to that grand piano behind Peter Gammons to play us a slow and melancholy ballad we all could hum through the tears? Maybe "Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word"?


After all, if Rodriguez could have summoned his inner Elton John, he could have asked a pertinent question: What does he have to do to make us care?





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"Sammy Sosa forgot how to speak English."

I'm really curious as to what Steroid Sammy will do when he is up for Cooperstown in a few years, and what the media will say leading up to his first chance to get into the HOF.

The guy is a fraud, too.
 

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One other point:

"Rafael Palmeiro wagged his finger and lied to the same committee, and then tried to blame a positive test on his teammate Miguel Tejada. That was classy. Then Palmeiro disappeared."

I doubt that either of the two aforementioned Major League Baseball Steroid Hall of Shame inductees will ever do jail time, but I certainly hope they have to make out checks to the U.S. Treasury for big money.
 

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Van_Slyke_CF said:
One other point:

"Rafael Palmeiro wagged his finger and lied to the same committee, and then tried to blame a positive test on his teammate Miguel Tejada. That was classy. Then Palmeiro disappeared."

I doubt that either of the two aforementioned Major League Baseball Steroid Hall of Shame inductees will ever do jail time, but I certainly hope they have to make out checks to the U.S. Treasury for big money.

Why do they have to make out checks to the US Treasury??? What law did they break and why should the inept US gov't profit from it?

Actually I think A-Rod's confession was fine. he probably takes a lot of suppliments and has done so for years, why should he be expected to remember details and even if he did why should he retell them? As I understand it those steroids weren't banned by baseball at the time so it's nobodies business if he doesn't want to talk about it.

I still like McGwires take on the matter. The fifth amendent right--translated: "it's none of your God D*mn business!"

I like how the media wants heartfelt confessions and then pisses on the guy that does it. Giambi came clean and look what it got him. The guy who's come out the best in this whole matter is Sheffield who's basic attitude has been "get the f**k away from me" when the media asks him about steroids.

A-Rod should say yeah I took 'em now give me a 3 game suspension like they do in the NFL, a sport where muscle is way more important then in baseball.
 
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