2013-2014 NHL season

[Average American]

Time to talk hockey..

VegasInsider has the 'Hawks as the early 5-1 Stanley Cup favorite.. with the Flames as the (500-1) longshot.

New icing rules, divisions, shallower nets.. 2013 rookies, etc.

Thoughts, predictions, things you're lookin' forward to (?)

 

[Average American]

Patrick Roy makes an impression in his coaching debut..

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/hockey/video-patrick-roy-flips-game-avs-coach-article-1.1475224

(link includes vid of Roy trying to toss the glass on Boudreau & Anaheim..)

 

[Tannehill17]

I was never really a fan of Roy during his playing days. I thought how he weaseled his way out of Montreal was reminiscent of how a lot of these "affletes" (like Josh Freeman for example) whine and cry until they get their way. Watching him push down the barrier is a move you would expect to see in Junior hockey, not the NHL.

 

[jaxvid]

I was never really a fan of Roy during his playing days. I thought how he weaseled his way out of Montreal was reminiscent of how a lot of these "affletes" (like Josh Freeman for example) whine and cry until they get their way. Watching him push down the barrier is a move you would expect to see in Junior hockey, not the NHL.

Patrick WAH is a bit of a pariah here in Hockeytown but I always respected his talent. A lot of very good players are kinda d-bags. Anyway a guy should be able to quit his job to work somewhere else, I always hated how teams locked guys into being somewhere they didn't want to be.

However I think him leaving the Canadiens was the end of their long era of dominance.

 

[Average American]

Washington's Connor Carrick gets his first NHL goal.. (beautiful).

[video=youtube;63lxkcxHylk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63lxkcxHylk[/video]

 

[Don Wassall]

I still have a sick feeling over the way the Penguins went out of the playoffs last season (yet again). I'm usually stoked for hockey this time of year but it'll take me a while to get into it this year. Pittsburgh is currently caught up in full baseball fever mode for the first time in over 20 years and the Penguins are way in the background, and even the Steelers thankfully.

 

[Tannehill17]

Aleksander Barkov's first goal for the Panthers. Becomes the youngest player in the modern era to score an NHL goal.

[video=youtube;Hdnj9vCHRDc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdnj9vCHRDc[/video]

 

[Matra2]

Patrick Roy makes an impression in his coaching debut..

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/hockey/video-patrick-roy-flips-game-avs-coach-article-1.1475224

(link includes vid of Roy trying to toss the glass on Boudreau & Anaheim..)

It seems to run in the family. Here's his son:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN5VppFGasg

 

[Average American]

Aleksander Barkov's first goal for the Panthers. Becomes the youngest player in the modern era to score an NHL goal.

[video=youtube;Hdnj9vCHRDc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdnj9vCHRDc[/video]

nice..

(RobertG), .. any thoughts on the Panthers new owner (Vincent Viola)? Are you seeing/hearing that Panthers fans seem to be glad, sad, or indifferent about the change in ownership (?)

 

[Tannehill17]

nice..

(RobertG), .. any thoughts on the Panthers new owner (Vincent Viola)? Are you seeing/hearing that Panthers fans seem to be glad, sad, or indifferent about the change in ownership (?)

The fan base here (including myself) seem to be pretty happy with the ownership change. From what it looks like, Viola is a deep pocketed owner who looks to actually add to the payroll by spending on quality free agents (it will remain to be seen if he does so, but I'm liking what I'm hearing so far) The problem the team had before was they were owned by a group of investors who pretty much only spent to the cap floor every year. This doesn't look to be the case with Viola. With the Panthers prospect pool blossoming (Huberdeau won rookie of the year last year) into one of the best in the league, I think the future is bright for them.

 

[Matra2]

Do the Flyers know what they're doing? Coach Peter Laviolette, who just signed a 2 year extension last season, has been fired after only 3 games (no wins). But now that the season has already started there are few experienced successful coaches available. They shouldn't have extended his contract but since they did they should've at least given him more than 3 games of an 82 game season. This doesn't seem to be an organisation that is thinking long term.

 

[Average American]

Do the Flyers know what they're doing? Coach Peter Laviolette, who just signed a 2 year extension last season, has been fired after only 3 games (no wins). But now that the season has already started there are few experienced successful coaches available. They shouldn't have extended his contract but since they did they should've at least given him more than 3 games of an 82 game season. This doesn't seem to be an organisation that is thinking long term.

Yeah that was a real short leash for Laviolette.. I wonder if starting 1-2 would've saved his job..
Seems dumb, & a 3 game sampling seems like a cold standard to me. I've never heard of a coach getting fired this quick.
After I read your post I was prompted to see if his early dismissal had a precedent. ESPN article reports that the last time a coach was released this quick was over 40 years ago (defunct Golden Seals- '71 season.) If his job was this tenuous, why not replace him before the season.. instead of wasting time with a pre-season+3 game trial basis (?)

 

[Average American]

In the early stages of an MVP season, Stamkos breaks his leg after collision into the pipes. (Out indefinitely)..

 

[PhillyFanatic]

Flyers #17 Wayne Simmonds (black) fights #43 Tom Wilson (white) at 0:24.

Flyers goalie #29 Ray Emery (black) fights Caps goalie #70 Braden Holtby (white) at 0:40.


[video=youtube;JAxCoA6u0os]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAxCoA6u0os[/video]

 

[Don Wassall]

Flyers #17 Wayne Simmonds (black) fights #43 Tom Wilson (white) at 0:24.

Flyers goalie #29 Ray Emery (black) fights Caps goalie #70 Braden Holtby (white) at 0:40.


[video=youtube;JAxCoA6u0os]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAxCoA6u0os[/video]

I'd read about this Emery-Holtby "fight" but this was the first time I've seen it.

I have two questions: Why didn't the official step in between them when it was so one-sided? He just skated away even though Holtby was in no position to defend himself. And where were Holtby's teammates?? I can only hope they were too busy with their own on-ice battles and didn't notice that their goalie was getting pummelled.

I like the toughness in hockey but never liked these Roller Derby-like skirmishes, because they look too much like, well, the Roller Derby.

 

[Average American]

I like the toughness in hockey but never liked these Roller Derby-like skirmishes, because they look too much like, well, the Roller Derby.

Yeah, feel the same way. I've never met a hockey fan (yet), that doesn't appreciate a stand-up, toe-to-toe scrap.. but I think the all-out line brawls are usually stupid & tacky.

and in this game completely pointless.. Flyers were completely put away at this point, & it looked like they were lashing out because they were getting stomped.. especially the way Emery roughed up Holtby. Holtby had pitched a shutout, had nothing to be angry about, and only reluctantly threw a punch or two before going into the ice. Beating up Holtby, already laid out, just made Philly look even lamer & Emery already looked lame in the net all night.. ineffective refs added to the poor optics of the line brawl.

 

[white is right]

I'd read about this Emery-Holtby "fight" but this was the first time I've seen it.

I have two questions: Why didn't the official step in between them when it was so one-sided? He just skated away even though Holtby was in no position to defend himself. And where were Holtby's teammates?? I can only hope they were too busy with their own on-ice battles and didn't notice that their goalie was getting pummelled.

I like the toughness in hockey but never liked these Roller Derby-like skirmishes, because they look too much like, well, the Roller Derby.

They were probably too busy putting out other fires to stop this mismatch. Emery was being the borderline street thug that he is. Goalies fighting is pretty much nonsense as they aren't involved in the stick work and chippy play that leads to fighting. The only goalies that ever should have to defend themselves are the hatchet men like Billy Smith or Ron Hextall.

 

[Average American]

They were probably too busy putting out other fires to stop this mismatch. Emery was being the borderline street thug that he is...

Didn't feel like watching Saints-Seahawks, so I watched the Flyers-Wild game instead..

First time I'd seen Emery play since he ran the knockout game on Holtby. Minnesota put 2 goals in on Emery to get a 2-0 win..

(surprised the mentally-challenged Flyers didn't jump Minnesota's keeper, for shutting 'em out..)

 

[Fortitud3]

NHL is pretty obvious about its non-suspension of certain teams players.

Boyle jumps Karlsson. No suspension, he Boyle plays for highest earning US based team. Carkner jumps Boyle. Suspension, he plays for low earning Ottawa Senators that qualify for revenue sharing.

It's a real joke because Emery said during a interview right after the game that he knew Holtby didn't want to fight and told him, "Protect yourself." He admitted it was thuggish jumping of another player and the league claims they had no basis for suspending him.

 

[Average American]

Good night for the Great 8.. Ovechkin puts in 4 goals against Tampa last nite (12/10/13).

In the process, he becomes the Caps' all time leading power play scorer (he's at 138).

 

[Average American]

It's a real joke because Emery said during a interview right after the game that he knew Holtby didn't want to fight and told him, "Protect yourself..

Emery may have earned some bad karma after roughing up Holtby.. He's played poorly since the Holty beatdown. Last night facing Chicago (12/11/13), Emery gave up six goals to six different BlackHawks..:help:

I think Emery needs to protect his net..

 

[Fortitud3]

Tom Wilson gets a 5 minute major for I guess forechecking?

Considering Phaneuf got suspended for 2 games for a player falling right before he went to pin him to the boards, not sure where this one is going...

If you go by the basis of Chimera non suspension for hit on McQuaid or Bernier on Scuderi in the 2012 SCF, the NHL said a player as the right to forecheck and is not at fault for a player turning their back.

 

[Rebajlo]

Jaromir Jagr has reached a lofty milestone:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=699507

He is now only 32 points behind Steve Yzerman...

 

[Don Wassall]

Jagr has had a remarkable career. First played in the NHL in 1990 as an 18 year old fresh off the plane from Czechoslovakia and is still going strong in 2014. He's the most prolific European player in league history, a great offensive force who has always been fun to watch.

And after all these years since he played in Pittsburgh and won a bunch of scoring titles and helped the team win two Stanley Cups, the ever classless and clueless Penguins DWFs still boo Jagr every time he plays in Pittsburgh.

 

[white is right]

Jagr has had a remarkable career. First played in the NHL in 1990 as an 18 year old fresh off the plane from Czechoslovakia and is still going strong in 2014. He's the most prolific European player in league history, a great offensive force who has always been fun to watch.

And after all these years since he played in Pittsburgh and won a bunch of scoring titles and helped the team win two Stanley Cups, the ever classless and clueless Penguins DWFs still boo Jagr every time he plays in Pittsburgh.

Plus he missed at least two seasons while he played in the KHL and he had some years in Pittsburgh where he clashed with Lemieux about his off ice personal life.