2009 was a good year for white boxers!

[white is right]

Parody why are we counting Mexicans as white champions?

When I look at Chris Arreola I see an Indian, and that's what I see when I look at Julio Ceasar Chavez, Juan Manuel Marquez, Rafael Marquez, Victor Ortiz, and Daniel Ponce de Leon.
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But when I look at Humberto Soto or Robert Guerrero I see a Spaniard.

Saul Alverez is lighter than I am, he appears very Celtic with very pale skin, light red hair and blue eyes. Celtic people settled in a large area of northern Spain in the 1st millenium BC.

Saul Alvarez is definitely about as white/European/Celtic as you can get and Robert Guerrero is either a very deceptively light Castizo with very persistent European genetics or is for all intensive purposes a Spaniard living in Mexico. Either way, he possesses enough White/European genetics to be considered a White man who could produce White children. It will be a sad day though if we ever have to accept guys like Soto as being our racial brethren. There is no doubt in my mind that he is a Mestizo. Of course the biggest thing is though, is do these guys see see themselves as whites of the diaspora or do they see themselves as just another Mexican who dislike all "Gringos" like a lot of the light Mexicans seem to do.

Yes I think Guerrero is Castizo which makes him practically White. I have seen his pops who works his corner and he looks like a slighter paler Cheech Marin. His mother might be a non Mexican White or a White Mexican. The term Castizo was used for people that were 3/4rs White and 1/4 aboriginal ie Brett Farve. These days most Latinos who are this consider themselves White unless maybe their mixed ancestry was more recent. The reverse of this is Cholo and an example of this is Roberto Duran.

 

[Charles Martel]

Low point of the year:

- Hatton being KOed by Pacquiao. The Chosen Ones at The Ring website have selected a photo of it for their main page today.

High point of the year

- Carl Froch behind on two scorecards KOs Jermain Taylor in the last minute of the 12th round.


Other disappointments:

- Alexander Dimitrenko being defeated by Eddie Chambers, who works with the ex-convict Dr. Conte who founded BALCO.

- Mikkel Kessler's loss to Andre Ward, who happens to be the other fighter who's working with Dr. Conte.

- Sergio Martinez not receiving the win despite winning most of the rounds against Paul Williams


Other high points

- Bernard Dunne's amazing KO of Cordoba

- Arthur Abraham's KO of Taylor

- Vitali's domination of Gomez, Arreola, and Johnson

- Tomasz Adamek's KO of undefeated Jonathan Banks

- Lucian Bute's beautiful KO of Librado Andrade

- Wladimir Klitschko receiving the Ring title at heavyweight, after dominating Chagaev

- Kubrat Pulev in his third pro fight schooling Gbenga Oloukun Edited by: Parody

 

[whiteathlete33]

Low point of the year:



- Hatton being KOed by Pacquiao. The Chosen Ones at The Ring website have selected a photo of it for their main page today.

High point of the year



- Carl Froch behind on two scorecards KOs Jermain Taylor in the last minute of the 12th round.





Other disappointments:



- Alexander Dimitrenko being defeated by Eddie Chambers, who works with the ex-convict Dr. Conde who founded BALCO.



- Mikkel Kessler's loss to Andre Ward, who happens to be the other fighter who's working with Dr. Conde.



- Sergio Martinez not receiving the win despite winning most of the rounds against Paul Williams





Other high points



- Bernard Dunne's amazing KO of Cordoba



- Arthur Abraham's KO of Taylor



- Vitali's domination of Gomez, Arreola, and Johnson



- Tomasz Adamek's KO of undefeated Jonathan Banks



- Lucian Bute's beautiful KO of Librado Andrade



- Wladimir Klitschko receiving the Ring title at heavyweight, after dominating Chagaev



- Kubrat Pulev in his third pro fight schooling Gbenga Oulouken

Parody it's Conte. When you mentioned that last name it reminded me of a crooked doctor we have here in my area. He has the same last name Conte. I am wondering if they are related because the one I know is involved in the same kind of things.

Edited by: whiteathlete33

 

[Westside]

Parody great observations, I attempted to refute your astute findings, but I could not. Great Job!

The Sergio decision if life was fair he should have won. The CMs simply could not let the next great affelet lose to further confirm what has taken place in the last 6 or 8 years. White domination at every weight from Junior middleweight to Heavyweight. Boy, the CMs are clinging to P Will as if he will be the next Terry Norris or even Sugar Ray Leonard.

If Pavlik fights Williams it will be a replay of Kelly's utter destruction of Taylor. I will bet the house on it.