2008 Michigan Wolverines

[Colonel_Reb]

Nice pic Gi! Here's another from the All-American game where he replicated his youtube flip over a defender. He also did this when asked to by Michigan teammates. The "I wish I could do that" look is all over those black players faces.

Shaw and McGuffie: looks like he has one on his left arm too. I'm not a fan of tattoos by the way.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Too bad he's still wearing that revolution helmet, I hate those

This reminds me of an interesting point that I've made before, but people don't usually understand. Having worn a Revolution, I personally believe they're too light-duty to be worn by a position that sees a lot of contact, such as running back, safety or fullback. People like Jacob Hester who tend to lead with their heads in times of trouble could end up with serious damage, in my opinion.

I think it would be interesting for the NFL to do a study some years from now, to go position-by-position and study people who have worn Revolutions in terms of brain health and function. I don't know if anyone cares, but this was a concern of mine after I suffered from migraines while wearing one in high school and playing strong safety.

Sorry to waste your time. Just wanted to bring that up.

Being a fan of equipment changes and such, I have read that the Revolution is supposed to be much better at protecting against concussions, etc. I don't know if you remember when Peyton Manning started wearing one, but he always wanted a lot of protection, like his father. After trying out a really huge facemask one season (I think 2000 or 2001), he switched to the Revolution helmet the next year. I've never had one on my head. I used either a Riddell VSR-1 or WD1 in high school. I used an old PAC 3 in junior high. As far as equipment questions go, you aren't wasting my time at all. I know Bronk is a very knowledgeable person on equipment and uniforms going back to the 60s. We had an equipment thread going some time ago. Herethey arein case you are interested.


[url]http://www.castefootball.us/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1064&a mp;a mp;KW=Equipment[/url]


[url]http://www.castefootball.us/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4313&a mp;a mp;KW=Equipment&TPN=1[/url]Edited by: Colonel_Reb

 

[whiteCB]

The kid's soooooo cocky you knew he was going to get some tattoos eventually. It helps the "wigger" image and gets the ladies. Just the facts, no matter if you like them or not.

 

[PhillyBirds]

McGuffie's frame is pretty damn imposing, especially next to Shaw. He is built really well.

 

[Gi-15]

Sam looks like the kind of guy who's flexing in his photos

 

[SteveB]

McGuffie's frame is pretty damn imposing, especially next to Shaw. He is built really well.

Yes, but he is too small to play RB in the Big 10 (according to the "experts').

 

[Electric Slide]

Sam looks like the kind of guy who's flexing in his photos

Lol, every athlete flexes (or at least should), in their photos! Same goes for models, etc.

 

[Electric Slide]

The kid's soooooo cocky you knew he was going to get some tattoos eventually. It helps the "wigger" image and gets the ladies. Just the facts, no matter if you like them or not.

It seems like a lot of people here don't like tats, but I don't think it's a black thing. Lot's of white guys (and girls) have them, and that goes back a long time. For most I don't think it's from a desire to be more like black people, just that its a way to express yourself.

Also, about the ladies, I don't think whether or not you have tats makes a difference. On my team in college, about 1/3 of the guys had them (all white), and the guy who got the most ladies actually had no tattoos, and said he'd never get them.

Either way, I've got no problems with Sam's tattoos, if that's how he wants to express himself that's fine with me.

 

[ocaamikedm11]

Sam is one of four "co-starters" at tailback to start the season.

 

[lumsdenpower]

The kid's soooooo cocky you knew he was going to get some tattoos eventually. It helps the "wigger" image and gets the ladies. Just the facts, no matter if you like them or not.

It seems like a lot of people here don't like tats, but I don't think it's a black thing. Lot's of white guys (and girls) have them, and that goes back a long time. For most I don't think it's from a desire to be more like black people, just that its a way to express yourself.

Also, about the ladies, I don't think whether or not you have tats makes a difference. On my team in college, about 1/3 of the guys had them (all white), and the guy who got the most ladies actually had no tattoos, and said he'd never get them.

Either way, I've got no problems with Sam's tattoos, if that's how he wants to express himself that's fine with me.

I agree, tattoos aint a black thing.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Sam got his first college TD on his 8th carry!

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Just updated Michigan's starters, although this could change next week with the return of 1 or 2 of the black backs.

 

[white is right]

Nice pic Gi! Here's another from the All-American game where he replicated his youtube flip over a defender. He also did this when asked to by Michigan teammates. The "I wish I could do that" look is all over those black players faces.

Shaw and McGuffie: looks like he has one on his left arm too. I'm not a fan of tattoos by the way.

It looks like the brothers in the photo have never seen a white dude do that before, there tongues might as well be out of their mouths...

 

[Colonel_Reb]

I doubt they've seen anyone do that before.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

I just updated the white starters, as there have been a couple of changes.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

<H1>Not that anyone here is a fan of him, but here it is anyway. </H1>
<H1>ANN ARBOR, Mich. (AP) - One day before his struggling football team's eighth game of the season, first-year Michigan head coach Rich Rodriguez is finally under contract with the school.</H1>
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He signed a six-year deal Friday worth at least $2.5 million annually, an amount that was agreed upon when he left West Virginia in December for Michigan.


The signatures of Michigan president Mary Sue Coleman and athletic director Bill Martin also were on the document, a copy of which The Associated Press obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request.


University spokeswoman Kelly Cunningham said there was nothing unusual about the time it took to work out the terms of the agreement.


"It typically takes this amount of time to do a contract," she said.


The contract calls for Rodriguez to receive a first-year base salary of $300,000 plus $1,650,000 per year for television and radio shows, apparel compensation and promotions. The base salary is subject to increase each year in accordance with the university's salary merit program.


Rodriguez also will accrue benefits under a deferred-compensation plan that will cost the university $550,000 annually.


He also is eligible to earn one of the following bonuses each year:


- $300,000 for winning a national championship or


- $200,000 for getting into a Bowl Championship Series game or


- $100,000 for getting into a Jan. 1 non-BCS game or


- $50,000 for getting into a non-Jan. 1 bowl game.


Rodriguez also will receive the free use of two automobiles and, for all home football games beginning in 2010, be provided the use of a private viewing box large enough for eight people. Michigan Stadium is being renovated to add boxes and increase seating capacity.


If the university terminates Rodriguez's contract within the first three years, it would pay him $4 million; in year four, $2.5 million; in year five, $2 million; and in year six, up to $1.5 million but not more than the remaining amount he would be owed.


Should Rodriguez leave Michigan early to accept another coaching position, he would owe the school similarly.


The contract runs through Dec. 31, 2013, and is retroactive to Dec. 19, 2007.


The Wolverines are 2-5 under Rodriguez and having their worst season since 1967, two years before the start of the Bo Schembechler era. On Saturday, they will host Michigan State, (6-2), a team that Michigan has defeated six straight times and in every game at home since 1990.


[url]http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/8715424/Rodriguez-finally -inks-six-year-deal-with-Michigan?FSO2&amp;ATT=MA [/url]

 

[sot42]

McGuffie's hurt. Looks like an ankle. Hope it's not a knee.

 

[sot42]

This kid is flexible. He might be OK

 

[OldSchoolBoy75]

This has been quite a tough season for the Wolverines. They are now 2-7, and this is the first time in 34 years that they will not be going to a bowl game.

 

[OldSchoolBoy75]

Any Michigan Wolverines fans here who grew up watching them back in the '70s and '80s? Since I tend to gravitate towards the teams of the past more so, I'd like to hear your opinions, any particular players you followed and liked, etc.

 

[jaxvid]

I always like Rick Leach. He's gotten a bum rap as a bad passer but he was constantlyrunning the option and took a lot of hits. I think he was a great leader and a smart guy. I wished he would have done better in bowl games though.


Jon Wangler was another QB I liked. He had a great arm and was a big play guy. I think he would have made a great pro but I think he suffered a bad knee injury.


Rob Lytle was a childhood hero of mine, I wanted to be a RB just like him. Lytle even played some in the NFL which seems mind boggling nowadays.


Jon Kolesar was my favorite receiver. One of the fastest guys to play at Michigan. His big TD catch against OSU was one of the biggest plays in UM history.

 

[OldSchoolBoy75]

I always like Rick Leach. He's gotten a bum rap as a bad passer but he was constantly running the option and took a lot of hits. I think he was a great leader and a smart guy. I wished he would have done better in bowl games though.


Jon Wangler was another QB I liked. He had a great arm and was a big play guy. I think he would have made a great pro but I think he suffered a bad knee injury.


Rob Lytle was a childhood hero of mine, I wanted to be a RB just like him. Lytle even played some in the NFL which seems mind boggling nowadays.


Jon Kolesar was my favorite receiver. One of the fastest guys to play at Michigan. His big TD catch against OSU was one of the biggest plays in UM history.

Hey Jaxvid,

I like Rick Leach too. I think he started passing more in his last two seasons. I just wish they had better luck in the Bowl games. All of the other players you mentioned are my faves as well. On YouTube there is a guy named "Wolverine Historian" who has many clips of old school Wolverine games on his site. There is a Leach tribute clip and four clips of the November 1976 game against Ohio State (Michigan won!), also the 1981 Rose Bowl game. I'm more partial to the teams under Bo Schembechler.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Rodriguez tells UM fans to get a life


[url]http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/8811864/Rodriguez-to-Mich igan-fans:-'Get-a-life'?FSO2&amp;ATT=MA [/url]
ANN ARBOR, Mich. (AP) - Rich Rodriguez loves to win â€â€￾ and he hates to lose as much as anyone.



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Michigan's coach, though, tries to keep as much perspective as he can.


Rodriguez has his wife and kids around him after practices, at the team hotel and on bus trips to the stadium. His office door is always wide open, allowing visitors to say hello.


Heading into his first Michigan-Ohio State game â€â€￾ where the Wolverines are expected to extend their dubious record with a ninth loss â€â€￾ he tried to deliver a message to fans who have lost touch.


"It's amazing some of the things that people would say (on a message board) or yell at you of a personal nature," Rodriguez said Monday. "You almost want to tell them, 'Get a life.'


"There's a whole lot bigger problems. Look at the economy."


College football's winningest team has tumbled like the stock market, losing a school-record eight games and getting beat a Michigan Stadium-record five times at home.


For the first time since 1974, the Wolverines will be relegated to watching bowl games.


The 10th-ranked Buckeyes are favored to beat their rivals on Saturday at home by 19 points, matching the largest spread in series history, and win at least a share of the Big Ten title for the fourth year in a row.


Ohio State has won four straight over the Wolverines, who seem to be days away from losing five straight in the series for the first time.


Rodriguez and some of his players were hesitant to acknowledge it, but ending a miserable season with an upset at Ohio State would salvage the year â€â€￾ to some extent.


"The frustrations we've had or any disappointments we've had, a win would at least help a little bit," Rodriguez said. "But it's not going to erase everything, and it shouldn't erase everything.


"It's going to take a lot more time to get all of that salvaged."


In the meantime, the Wolverines are wholeheartedly embracing the spoilers' role against the Buckeyes.


"(If) we go down there and beat them, they have no chance to go to the Rose Bowl," senior safety Brandon Harrison said. "That's what we're playing for."


Michigan's challenge has been made more daunting by Rodriguez's injury update.


Rodriguez said he doubts quarterback Steven Threet will play because of a separated shoulder, leaving Nick Sheridan to start in the biggest game of his life just two years after making the team as a walk-on.


Freshman running back Sam McGuffie also might be out because of a death in his family, Rodriguez said.


Running back Brandon Minor insisted he will play in Michigan's finale after missing the previous game with rib and shoulder injuries.


"I've told the team, 'Not a lot of people are going to expect you to do well and win the game, but we expect (you) to do well,"' Rodriguez said. "It's a challenge, but we are capable of playing pretty good football. We just have not done it consistently.


"I know that sounds like coach-speak. But if we can play consistently like we have at times this year and get a few breaks in there, anything can happen."

 

[OldSchoolBoy75]

It sure is easy for Rich Rod to blow off any criticism of him and the team by telling people to "get a life", but does he realize that the team he is coaching for is Michigan, where upholding victory, tradition and across-the-board excellence is expected? Why does he care what people are writing on the boards--people are upset. Lots of people. Not just those in Ann Arbor and its environs but Wolveirne fans across the country, including myself. It's a no-brainer to say that this season has already been written off, but I will tell you guys this: if Michigan loses to Ohio State this weekend, Rich Rod is going to get his nuts chopped off. I guarantee it.

 

[OldSchoolBoy75]

Today on WTKA 1050 in Ann Arbor, former Wolverine QB Rick Leach (1975-78) was the guest. It comes in a series of parts.

http://www.wtka.com/index.php?fuseaction=home.podcasts_sel&i d=710

Edited by: OldSchoolBoy75