2007 LSU Tigers
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Colonel_Reb
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In a preview I did for a web page, I predicted multiple INTs for the LSU secondary yesterday, and mentioned that it was led by Craig Steltz. He is an awesome player!
Colonel_Reb
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Dorsey has to be the most over-rated over-hyped D-lineman in the country. Seems like every year the media has to find some fat black from LSU to acorn-hug. Remember the "Big Baby" Glenn Davis? Yeah, he was a big baby, always doing this-
mrjohnnynofear
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What do they see in Dorsey? I know he'll be playing in the NFL, has had a injury, and is a ok player. But what are they seeing that makes him a potential #1 pick? Steltz is having a better year.
I think with Dorsey, NFL scouts and other supposed "personnel experts" see a wide body who can take up space, and take on multiple offensive linemen. These type of players have really been in vogue since Sam Adams came into the league. Basically, they just get as heavy as they can and take up space. In the end, many fail to make any impact in the NFL.
I'd take a guy like Kelly Gregg, undrafted out of Oklahoma, over Dorsey any day.
I'd take a guy like Kelly Gregg, undrafted out of Oklahoma, over Dorsey any day.
Jimmy Chitwood
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how many dropped passes have been dropped in this LSU-Arkansas game? ugh!
it's midway through the second quarter, and there has to have been at least 6 blatant drops between the two teams...
it's midway through the second quarter, and there has to have been at least 6 blatant drops between the two teams...
I was kind of wondering where all the Dorsey hype was coming from too. But when I looked up his stats on the year, they were pretty legit. He's a DT and he's 4th on the team in tackles. That's pretty good (better than two starting LB's on the team). Add in his 6 sacks and consider he's been banged up much of this year. I'm not saying he should be the #1 pick in the draft, but having a big fat D-lineman that can cause as much disruption as he does is certainly valuable.
Sorry to see LSU lose but I'm glad Hester and Hillis were so instrumental in their teams' respective performances.
Sorry to see LSU lose but I'm glad Hester and Hillis were so instrumental in their teams' respective performances.
Jimmy Chitwood
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without a doubt, Dorsey is a good player. but i think the problem that so many here at Caste Football have is the immense 'hype machine' surrounding him.
he's a talented defensive linemen, but he might not even be the best in the country (hello Chris Long?). even if he is the best d-lineman in the nation, does his on-field performance = his acclaim?
i mean, for a large portion of the year, he was actually being considered as a Heisman Trophy candidate!?!
therein lies the problem, i think. the hype around a good black player is far beyond what is called for. Dorsey is just one of many examples of this.
he's a talented defensive linemen, but he might not even be the best in the country (hello Chris Long?). even if he is the best d-lineman in the nation, does his on-field performance = his acclaim?
i mean, for a large portion of the year, he was actually being considered as a Heisman Trophy candidate!?!
therein lies the problem, i think. the hype around a good black player is far beyond what is called for. Dorsey is just one of many examples of this.
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Did anyone see hesters long td reception called back? He looked pretty damn fast to me
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Yep. It took years for Gregg to get any kind of recognition and when he does the announcers are apparently required to say something "humorous" about his stocky build, while the large number of immobile obese black linemen on offense and defense somehow qualify as "great athletes." It reminds me of the line in "Kingpin" when Ishmael and Munson finally arrive at the bowling tournament venue in Reno and Ish says, "It's an honor to be around so many great athletes" as the camera focuses on a group of fat whitebowlers stuffing their faces.
What the Caste System should do with itssumo non-athletes is let the NHL sign them to be goalies. They could sit in the goal without having to move at all except to indulguein their favorite foods during the game.
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That was a beautiful play! Great pass by Flynn, great run-catch-run by Hester. And it went for naught because Senior Early Doucet lined up on the line of scrimmage!! Without the penalty, that game does not go into overtime, and we are still looking forward to Hester and Steltz playing in the NC game.
Colonel_Reb
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Miles to stay or go? He signed a 1 year contract last week, but it is now being rumored have talked to Michigan Friday. This will be an interesting story to follow over the next couple of weeks. If Miles heads to Michigan, does this improve Sam McGuffie's chances of starring there in the future?
reclaimsocal
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Its hard to say. I'm mixed on Miles.
Positive - He allowed Hester to start and get the lion's share of carries this season.
Negative - He never really made Hester "The man" and was continously rotating in flawed affletes which cost Jacob a shot at being a Heisman calibur star.
Positive - He allowed Hester to start and get the lion's share of carries this season.
Negative - He never really made Hester "The man" and was continously rotating in flawed affletes which cost Jacob a shot at being a Heisman calibur star.
Hester has turned into Tigers' rock star
December 28, 2007
LSU runningback Jacob Hester (18) stretches for a touchdown during the second half against Arkansas. (Greg Pearson/The Times/File)
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By Glenn Guilbeau
gguilbeau@gannett.com
BATON ROUGE  The LSU football team has a rock star. His name is Jacob Hester, who now knows a little about what it was like being one of his favorite singers, Elvis Presley.
For LSU's last seven games, Hester has had police escorts from the field to the locker room and from the locker room to his car or team bus after games.
"People wanting autographs," Hester said after practice Thursday. "It all started after the Florida game. I was signing autographs outside the locker room for almost two hours. Finally, some police came up and said, 'We're taking you to your car.'"
Hester, a senior from Evangel, moved into rock star status in that nationally televised Florida game when he gained 106 yards on 23 carries and scored the winning touchdown on a 2-yard run with 1:09 to play in a 28-24 victory. Hester also converted three fourth-and-1 plays in that game.
"It just kept happening after every game after that," Hester said. "Even after the Ole Miss game over there. But it's not a bad problem to have."
December 28, 2007
LSU runningback Jacob Hester (18) stretches for a touchdown during the second half against Arkansas. (Greg Pearson/The Times/File)
Related articles:
- Rested LSU returns to practice
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- LSU's Greatest Games (No. 9): Bert Jones arrives in upset of Notre Dame
- Dietzel revisits Ohio roots
By Glenn Guilbeau
gguilbeau@gannett.com
BATON ROUGE  The LSU football team has a rock star. His name is Jacob Hester, who now knows a little about what it was like being one of his favorite singers, Elvis Presley.
For LSU's last seven games, Hester has had police escorts from the field to the locker room and from the locker room to his car or team bus after games.
"People wanting autographs," Hester said after practice Thursday. "It all started after the Florida game. I was signing autographs outside the locker room for almost two hours. Finally, some police came up and said, 'We're taking you to your car.'"
Hester, a senior from Evangel, moved into rock star status in that nationally televised Florida game when he gained 106 yards on 23 carries and scored the winning touchdown on a 2-yard run with 1:09 to play in a 28-24 victory. Hester also converted three fourth-and-1 plays in that game.
"It just kept happening after every game after that," Hester said. "Even after the Ole Miss game over there. But it's not a bad problem to have."
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I'm glad to see Jacob Hester getting some good coverage. Did anyone see the cover of USA Today a couple days ago? Half of the page was Jacob Hester, who they gave equal billing with OSU's Chris Wells as the main offensive weapon for their respective teams.
Any chance I get I hype up Hester. One of my friends who is a huge sports buff said that while Hester is good he isn't a "game breaker" like Keiland Williams. I said Hester is a game breaker, especially with plays like the winning TD against Florida. Williams does have more YPC, but with the amount of carries Hester has, especially on 3rd and short running situations, 5 ypc is incredible. I'm hoping Hester has a great game, and hopefully changes some people's minds. But who knows, maybe they will call him white chocolate and claim his great grandma messed around with some slave in some back bayou.
Any chance I get I hype up Hester. One of my friends who is a huge sports buff said that while Hester is good he isn't a "game breaker" like Keiland Williams. I said Hester is a game breaker, especially with plays like the winning TD against Florida. Williams does have more YPC, but with the amount of carries Hester has, especially on 3rd and short running situations, 5 ypc is incredible. I'm hoping Hester has a great game, and hopefully changes some people's minds. But who knows, maybe they will call him white chocolate and claim his great grandma messed around with some slave in some back bayou.
Colonel_Reb
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Out of 118, by my count LSU had 57 white players on the BCS Title team, pictured here. It looks like there are61 blacks on the team. Since 8 of this year's starters were white and 14 were black, that looks like about 23% of the blacks on the team were starters, whereas just 14% of white players on the team were starters. We're talking about the whitest starting team in the SEC (along with Vanderbilt) in 2007 here. The only way it makes (any) sense to have a majority black starting 22 is to have a majority black roster. For a long time in the SEC, that 50/50 roster was a barrier, but no longer. Just another example of bias, the differences are still visible even on a team thatis less biased than most.
Colonel_Reb
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By James Varney
BATON ROUGE -- LSU quarterback Ryan Perrilloux's troubled career hit another sour note Monday, as Coach Les Miles announced he had indefinitely suspended the Tigers' expected starter this season for a violation of team rules. It was the third such disciplinary measure imposed on Perrilloux since last May.
Sources at the university familiar with the situation said Perrilloux's infractions involved missing classes, workouts and at least one team meeting, all violations of a private agreement Miles and Perrilloux reportedly reached last season.
Perrilloux's situation could be even more dire, according to school officials who said Miles still is mulling the situation. Miles was unavailable for comment, but said in LSU's terse, four-sentence statement that the quarterback's status for spring football, which begins Feb. 29, is uncertain.
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Miles canceled a slated Monday press conference at which he planned to announce coaching changes because he feared questions about Perrilloux would overshadow what he wanted to be a bright day for his assistants, school officials said. Late in the day, LSU issued another press release announcing the promotion of secondary coach Doug Mallory and linebackers coach and special teams coordinator Bradley Dale Pevoto as co-defensive coordinators, and the hiring of Joe Robinson, formerly on the staff at Arizona, as the special teams coach.
Perrilloux has had several scrapes with the law in the past 14 months.
The first was the revelation in January 2007 that federal and local investigators wanted to question Perrilloux about an alleged counterfeiting ring in the River Parishes. That issue largely petered out when federal officials made it clear they did not regard Perrilloux as a major player in their probe, and he was never charged.
Perrilloux was cited by Baton Rouge police last May after allegedly trying to board a riverboat casino with another person's identification. Miles suspended Perrilloux after that incident, and the signal-caller who emerged from East St. John High School as perhaps the most celebrated recruit in the nation during the 2004 season, did not participate in any team drills and functions last summer.
Miles reinstated Perrilloux on the eve of the August preseason camp but then, during the team's bye week in late October, Perrilloux was involved in a fight at the Varsity nightclub on the edge of campus. While some individuals first accused Perrilloux of wielding a gun in that fracas, videotape showed no gun was ever involved, and the accusers begged off their story when pressed by Baton Rouge detectives. Again, Perrilloux was not arrested.
But with negative publicity about the incident distracting the team before its anticipated showdown at Alabama, Miles again suspended Perrilloux, and the sophomore did not travel to Tuscaloosa, Ala.
It was after that second suspension that the coaching staff reportedly spelled out strict guidelines Perrilloux had to abide by or face possible dismissal. That program appeared to be running smoothly, and Perrilloux was voted the Southeastern Conference championship game's MVP in the Tigers' victory over Tennessee that vaulted LSU into the BCS championship game.
Between the SEC title game and the BCS championship against Ohio State, Perrilloux, who usually is off-limits to the media, spoke with the press, and his tone and words appeared to reflect the knowledge the starting quarterback at a major program must follow a stricter behavioral code than that permitted the average undergraduate -- exactly the sort of philosophy the coaches wanted to see in the probable starter in 2008. Perrilloux was quick to praise starter Matt Flynn, who handled his lengthy time as a backup with undimmed competitive ardor and class, according to teammates and coaches, as a role model and said henceforth the team always would come first.
LSU did not reveal Perrilloux's proffered excuse for missing meetings, classes and workouts. His biological father passed away earlier this month, but sources said the relationship between those two had been rocky for years, and some of the transgressions allegedly occurred before the death.
Perrilloux did not return a phone message left at his Baton Rouge residence. His mother did not return messages, either.
Now, Miles must decide if a third-strike rule is in effect and perhaps kick Perrilloux off the team or if the incidents, taken individually, do not warrant such discipline.
Miles dismissed three players from the team last year after they were involved in publicized scraps.
If Perrilloux were dismissed, the defending national champion would begin its season with either a transfer from Harvard, Andrew Hatch, who played sparingly last year, or redshirt freshman Jared Lee, who has never taken a snap in college.
That is a decidedly thin lineup for a team that must face Florida and Auburn on the road and host Georgia. On the other hand, LSU begins the season with three home games against non-conference opponents Appalachian State, Troy and North Texas, which could provide a cushion for a novice quarterback.
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By James Varney
BATON ROUGE -- LSU quarterback Ryan Perrilloux's troubled career hit another sour note Monday, as Coach Les Miles announced he had indefinitely suspended the Tigers' expected starter this season for a violation of team rules. It was the third such disciplinary measure imposed on Perrilloux since last May.
Sources at the university familiar with the situation said Perrilloux's infractions involved missing classes, workouts and at least one team meeting, all violations of a private agreement Miles and Perrilloux reportedly reached last season.
Perrilloux's situation could be even more dire, according to school officials who said Miles still is mulling the situation. Miles was unavailable for comment, but said in LSU's terse, four-sentence statement that the quarterback's status for spring football, which begins Feb. 29, is uncertain.
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Miles canceled a slated Monday press conference at which he planned to announce coaching changes because he feared questions about Perrilloux would overshadow what he wanted to be a bright day for his assistants, school officials said. Late in the day, LSU issued another press release announcing the promotion of secondary coach Doug Mallory and linebackers coach and special teams coordinator Bradley Dale Pevoto as co-defensive coordinators, and the hiring of Joe Robinson, formerly on the staff at Arizona, as the special teams coach.
Perrilloux has had several scrapes with the law in the past 14 months.
The first was the revelation in January 2007 that federal and local investigators wanted to question Perrilloux about an alleged counterfeiting ring in the River Parishes. That issue largely petered out when federal officials made it clear they did not regard Perrilloux as a major player in their probe, and he was never charged.
Perrilloux was cited by Baton Rouge police last May after allegedly trying to board a riverboat casino with another person's identification. Miles suspended Perrilloux after that incident, and the signal-caller who emerged from East St. John High School as perhaps the most celebrated recruit in the nation during the 2004 season, did not participate in any team drills and functions last summer.
Miles reinstated Perrilloux on the eve of the August preseason camp but then, during the team's bye week in late October, Perrilloux was involved in a fight at the Varsity nightclub on the edge of campus. While some individuals first accused Perrilloux of wielding a gun in that fracas, videotape showed no gun was ever involved, and the accusers begged off their story when pressed by Baton Rouge detectives. Again, Perrilloux was not arrested.
But with negative publicity about the incident distracting the team before its anticipated showdown at Alabama, Miles again suspended Perrilloux, and the sophomore did not travel to Tuscaloosa, Ala.
It was after that second suspension that the coaching staff reportedly spelled out strict guidelines Perrilloux had to abide by or face possible dismissal. That program appeared to be running smoothly, and Perrilloux was voted the Southeastern Conference championship game's MVP in the Tigers' victory over Tennessee that vaulted LSU into the BCS championship game.
Between the SEC title game and the BCS championship against Ohio State, Perrilloux, who usually is off-limits to the media, spoke with the press, and his tone and words appeared to reflect the knowledge the starting quarterback at a major program must follow a stricter behavioral code than that permitted the average undergraduate -- exactly the sort of philosophy the coaches wanted to see in the probable starter in 2008. Perrilloux was quick to praise starter Matt Flynn, who handled his lengthy time as a backup with undimmed competitive ardor and class, according to teammates and coaches, as a role model and said henceforth the team always would come first.
LSU did not reveal Perrilloux's proffered excuse for missing meetings, classes and workouts. His biological father passed away earlier this month, but sources said the relationship between those two had been rocky for years, and some of the transgressions allegedly occurred before the death.
Perrilloux did not return a phone message left at his Baton Rouge residence. His mother did not return messages, either.
Now, Miles must decide if a third-strike rule is in effect and perhaps kick Perrilloux off the team or if the incidents, taken individually, do not warrant such discipline.
Miles dismissed three players from the team last year after they were involved in publicized scraps.
If Perrilloux were dismissed, the defending national champion would begin its season with either a transfer from Harvard, Andrew Hatch, who played sparingly last year, or redshirt freshman Jared Lee, who has never taken a snap in college.
That is a decidedly thin lineup for a team that must face Florida and Auburn on the road and host Georgia. On the other hand, LSU begins the season with three home games against non-conference opponents Appalachian State, Troy and North Texas, which could provide a cushion for a novice quarterback.
reclaimsocal
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Amazing how many affletes in the "Top 100" of their respective classes end up this way. 2004 gave us the following greats:
Fred Rouse
Ryan Perriloux
O.J. Murdock
And those are just the ones that jumped out at me, I'm sure if I took the time to dig, I'd find even more.
Fred Rouse
Ryan Perriloux
O.J. Murdock
And those are just the ones that jumped out at me, I'm sure if I took the time to dig, I'd find even more.