$130 million Punk!

[Spooge]

$130,000,000 million for a professional quarterblack. Watching Ron Mexico give fans the middle finger... Priceless! Has any quarterback ever flipped his fans off? What a low rent move on Vick's part. No class.

 

[sport historian]

Craig Morton was doing it when with the Giants in the mid-70's.

 

[White Shogun]

Well, it's because he is frustrated, doncha' know?

He had about 90 yards passing... and 166 yards rushing. And the Falcons lose to the Saints 31-13.

I watched most of this game today. Besides watching Reggie Bush run out of bounds every time he got the ball, I watched Mike Vick get happy feet anytime he was under any pressure at all. He'd throw into coverage, over his receivers heads, or most of the time, he'd just bail out of the pocket and run. On ESPN the Radio they were talking about bringing in a new offensive coordinator, a new coach, new receivers... anything but a new quarterback. Hello!! You'd think a guy who is smart enough to become a millionaire many times over would be able to figure out the problem with his team is his stinking quarterback, not his coach, coordinator, running back, defense.... anything but the QB.

What are the chances they might actually give Schaub a chance?

I know, I know!

 

[backrow]

well, let's say it: both coach and the QB are to blame

 

[speedster]

The sad thing about it is that Vick will probably get voted into another undeserved Pro Bowl because of the fact he is on the verge of rushing for 1000 yards.

 

[son of Radovan]

The nbc pregame highlights show, while showing highlights from the Saints-Falcons game, a game won by New Orleans, basically showed clips with two themes: passes dropped by wide receivers, and runs by the almighty Mexico [I noticed no accolades for Drew Brees, the WINNING qb].

A recent thread here mentioned the possibility of keeping track of passes dropped by wide receivers. NBC is way ahead of us - on the stats of the game, they listed "passes dropped" as part of Vick's stats, i.e. 5.

By this point I don't think the media will ever acknowledge the elephant **** in the room.
Edited by: son of Radovan

 

[backrow]

Brees got a lot of good publicity today after his game.

 

[Lance Alworth]

Its good to see the Atlanta fans finally growing restless of St Mexico. Couldnt Atlanta just put in a REAL QB instead of this joke of a passer?

 

[Hockaday]

I keep seeing the Ron Mexico joke about Vick. I don't get it. Somebody hep me.

 

[C Darwin]

Ron Mexico

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

at halftime, vick had set another NFL QB record for rushing with 127 yards... all those rushing yards led his team to a whopping grand total of 6 points. so who gives a crap?

meanwhile, he was 4-11 passing in the first half for 19 yards.

on the other sideline, Brees was 9-12 passing for over 200 yards and 2 TDs in the first half, albeit it included a hail mary pass. those types of things can NEVER happen on a running play, though, so kudos to Brees.

admittedly, the Falcons wideouts (you'll notice i didn't say receivers

) dropped as many passes as they caught. they suck. but i'm confused... Atlanta's top 3 wideouts are ALL former first-round draft picks... their afaleticism is so great it should overcome their ineptitude. shouldn't it?

what will it take to get a receiver who can actually catch the ball from a QB who can actually throw it?

 

[Hockaday]

Thanks, C. Darwin. Now I get it. That item belongs in the News of the Weird. Edited by: Hockaday

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

for those who missed it...

Wow, that's probably the best job Vick has ever done using that hand to direct something in someone's general direction.

and here's the apology...

ATLANTA (AP) -- Michael Vick apologized for making an obscene gesture toward Atlanta fans as he walked off the field after the Falcons' fourth straight loss Sunday.

Vick used both hands to deliver the gesture and flashed an angry look toward the handful of fans remaining in the Georgia Dome. Those who hung around booed the home team loudly after its dismal 31-13 loss to the New Orleans Saints.

First and foremost, I would like to apologize for my inappropriate actions with fans today," the quarterback said in a statement released by the Falcons. "I was frustrated and upset at how the game was going for my team, and that frustration came out the wrong way."

Vick was the Falcons' main offensive threat with 166 yards rushing, just 7 off his NFL record for a quarterback. He had another rough day passing, completing nine of 24 for 84 yards, but that wasn't entirely his fault.

The Atlanta receivers dropped at least five passes, and the offensive line didn't provide much protection. Vick was sacked three times and hit a dozen more behind the line of scrimmage after throwing passes.

Leaving the field, he let his frustration get the best of him.

"That's not what I'm about. That's not what the Atlanta Falcons are about," Vick said in his statement. "I simply lost my cool in the heat of the moment. I apologize and look forward to putting this incident behind me."

what Atlanta's fans hope to put behind them are his dismal passing numbers... here's a funny poster that offers a solution.

 

[White Shogun]

The Falcons essentially field a team with three running backs and no quarterback. If Vick wants to play running back, his yards on running plays should be treated as and accumulated like the stats for any other running back, not a 'scrambling quarterback.' Calling Vick a 'scrambling quarterback' is an insult to true running quarterbacks like John Elway, Steve Young, and Fran Tarkenton. Hell, even Randall Cunningham was a better quarterback than Michael Vick.

 

[Triad]

This is a MSM article that could just have easily been written by a CF member.

Fox Sports Article

 

[GreatLakeState]

It's hard to imagine Atlanta's all-time greatest athlete, Dale Murphy,
doing this ... OK, not hard to imagine, impossible.

 

[bigunreal]

The media continues its unfathomable support of Mike/Michael Vick. This unquestioned support is across the board in the mainstream press, with no exceptions. If you watched Houston's game yesterday, you could see David Carr being victimized by several dropped passes. He didn't chastise his receivers, he did what all good what athletes do- he chewed out no one in particular and certainly didn't talk about dropped passes publicly. White QBs have to deal with this problem in every game, because their black receivers simply can't catch footballs very well. Funny, the only time it becomes an issue is when the QB is black. For instance, when Matt Jones made the unforgivable mistake of dropping one of David Garrard's passes a few weeks back (no, it was not two- the other was not a clear drop), he was summarily benched, and he was soundly criticized in the media, as if he was the poster boy for WRs with bad hands. I just heard Mike Ditka, who is allegedly an "old school" guy from the good old days, do everything but put Mike/ Michael Vick in a wedding dress (like he did when he "married" Ricky Williams some years ago) while defending him on NFL Prime Time. At the same time that NO ONE is criticizing this completely inept QB, the same jock- sniffers are questioning whether it's time to bench Rex Grossman or even Eli Manning. Imagine that- Manning is a truly great young QB who has hit a few bumps in the road lately, but has already accomplished more passing than Mike/Michael ever will. These lame, wannabe comedians are delighted that Jake Plummer has been benched, and are already speculating that one of their favorite whipping boys- Houston's David Carr- may face competition for his job next year from Plummer. Again, just switch Grossman, Manning or Carr with Vick- can you think how much ridicule they would face if any of them had the kind of pathetic passing stats that Mike/Michael has accumulated during his years as a starter? Has any one of these clowns ever suggested, for one minute, that Atlanta bench Vick, and give Matt Schaub (who has looked great) a chance to start?

I know that Don is fond of referring to Kordell Stewart's years in Pittsburgh as a "great 8 year experiment," but Mike/Michael Vick will shatter that record. The love and support for this abysmal "athlete" is so widespread and irrational that he is guaranteed to be a starter unless he voluntarily benches himself at some point. We all know how likely that would be, considering how he suffers from the same "self-esteem" issues that all modern day homeboys and homegirls do.

 

[Deus Vult]

The FOX TV announcer (Saints-Falcons game, Nov 26) touched on the recent comments of Jim Mora, Sr. (that Mike Vick may be a "coach killer"), and how hurtful they were "to the Falcons organization." He said "around 50 of Vick's 'friends'" called Vick to tell him of Mora, Sr's remarks.

Why do 50 people know Mike Vick's telephone number?

Why would he care what an analyst says about him or his game?

Senor Mexico seems to need a posse of yes-men to carry his ego, or else his self-esteem plummets. What a fragile flower. Even Deion Sanders was tougher than Vick!

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

I think you guys are going a little hard on Vick. He did have some bad drops by his receivers and the Falcons were still in the game until Bree's Hail Mary. Vick was actually passing the ball "somewhat decently" at the beginning of the year, mostly to Crumpler his TE. Also, the Falcons are still in the playoff hunt, and VIck has a good not great careerwinning percentage as a QB, by winning games with his legs not arm. I would put VIck somewhere in the middle of the pack for QB's. He may be a top 15 QB but certainly not a top 10. And I would agree that $130 million in salary is ridiculous for a mediocre QB. You may also remember that the Falcons beat the Packers a few years back at Lambeau in the playoffs. And Favre also had an infamous gesture although I don't think it was to fans yearsback, when he made a throat slice gesture. Vick just lost his cool and nothing more than that, and in the interview he blammed himself as well as his receivers after the New Orleane's game.

 

[Tom Iron]

T.J. Riggins


I respectfully don't think anybodies being too hard on Vick. He just doesn't have what it takes to run an offense in the NFL. The point is that he's a black guy and the media wants a black QB to succeed so bad that they can taste it. I don't think it's going to happen soon from what I can see. It seems run of the mill is about the best they get.


I do think that Schaub will get to start this year though. It'll just get too hard to keep Vickin there much longer.


Tom Iron...

 

[Poacher]

Schaub would make those receivers look good.

 

[White Shogun]

I think you guys are going a little hard on Vick. He did have some bad drops by his receivers and the Falcons were still in the game until Bree's Hail Mary. Vick was actually passing the ball "somewhat decently" at the beginning of the year, mostly to Crumpler his TE. Also, the Falcons are still in the playoff hunt, and VIck has a good not great career winning percentage as a QB, by winning games with his legs not arm. I would put VIck somewhere in the middle of the pack for QB's. He may be a top 15 QB but certainly not a top 10. And I would agree that $130 million in salary is ridiculous for a mediocre QB. You may also remember that the Falcons beat the Packers a few years back at Lambeau in the playoffs. And Favre also had an infamous gesture although I don't think it was to fans years back, when he made a throat slice gesture. Vick just lost his cool and nothing more than that, and in the interview he blammed himself as well as his receivers after the New Orleane's game.

People are being hard on Vick? Compared to who?

Is he better than Bledsoe?
Is he better than Plummer?
Is he better than Brunell?
Is he better than Leftwich?
Is he better than Volek?
Is he better than Warner?

All of these guys have numbers similar to or better than Vick. What do they all have in common?

They've all been dumped for one reason or another, replaced by backups and rookies.

Vick needs to ride pine as a backup, or play running back. Switch him to corner. Do some thing with him besides let him play quarterback. Let Schaub play; at least we will see just how bad the Falcon's receivers really are.

The Falcons are losing because they're trying to play football with three runningbacks, like I said earlier in this thread.

 

[Matt_Bowen_Fan]

You may also remember that the Falcons beat the Packers a few years back at Lambeau in the playoffs. And Favre also had an infamous gesture although I don't think it was to fans years back, when he made a throat slice gesture.

Oh, I knew, just knew, that someone would bring up that Vick "won" that game. From Wikipedia...

"But while Vick does deserve some credit in engineering the victory, he finished the game with a 52 percent completion rate, throwing for just 117 yards and one touchdown. Meanwhile, the Falcons' defense forced three fumbles from three different players and forced future Hall of Famer Brett Favre into throwing two interceptions while limiting running back Ahman Green, at the time one of the league's top rushers, to just 34 yards. Atlanta's special teams unit also blocked a punt and returned it for one of the Falcons' three touchdowns."

Sounds a lot like Vick beat the Packers on that one.

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

Geez, I wasn't annointing Vick as a Pro bowler, I simply think that he is mediocre which is good enough to start. In thePacker game there were several plays where he made something out of nothing with his legs including a play where he made one of the fastest DE's in the league KGB miss a sack. And I never said that it was all him that won the Packer game.He has a good career winning percentage and it's not all based upon Atlanta's defenses they've feilded.


I just think that it shows that with a good team around him a mediocre QB is good enough to win games even a playoff one. Trent Dilfer was mediocre and he won the superbowl. How did he do this? you may ask. By managing the game (as far as not turning the ball over)and having a great defense on the other side of the ball. I also agreed with other posters that his $130 million salary is ridiculous. I don't see the Falcons replacing him with Schaub with a salary like that. Also, I don't think we've seen enough of Schaub to know that he is any better than mediocre himself. Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

I think you guys are going a little hard on Vick... in the interview he blammed himself as well as his receivers after the New Orleane's game.

$130 million means the fans have the right to be hard on a guy who sucks. if he's a big enough man to take the money, then he's a big enough man to take the criticism.

and it takes a REAL big man to blame someone else when he apologizes. give me a break.