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  1. Bk21

    Homosexual football player and evolution discussion

    Hi, I think you didn't read the article I posted just before your reply. but again, there is no ONE GENE, and not ONLY GENETIC EXPLANATION, other factors enter in action, genetics is not the ONLY explanation, most of scientists at least agrees on that. The gene passing by X (the previous...
  2. Bk21

    Homosexual football player and evolution discussion

    femboys like you said were not a threat for mating, that was the only point I developped (in an evolutionary point of view) they were not a threat from that POV and it's not difficult to understand. now how homosexuality genes made it through the evolutionary chain...
  3. Bk21

    Homosexual football player and evolution discussion

    There is a huge difference between "christians" and "christianity", christians could be of different influences one of them is religion, but not only; social and "moral zeitgeist" are also present in accepting homosexuals. The accpetance in modern societies is very new and leads to excessive...
  4. Bk21

    Homosexual football player and evolution discussion

    Ok it's a good idea, why not But I'll let you start the thread if you're ok, and explain also in preamble why Christianity is not religion (did you meant it's not like any other religion or it's not a religion at all) BTW I'm open to both sides argument, don't have a priori (I myself was a...
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    white goal scorers 2012-2013

    He had 3 neat occasions against Chelsea, the last one was indeed very frustrating! he is experiencing an obvious lack of confidence but his skills didn't vanish in the summer, he'll have better days
  6. Bk21

    Homosexual football player and evolution discussion

    Nothing is more pagan than christianity, but this is a whole other story.. when you have a huge amount of PROOFS pointing toward evolution, it's no longer a mere hypothesis! even the Vatican was forced to approve Evolution...
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    Homosexual football player and evolution discussion

    it seems that the neanderthal man has been "absorbed" in the european genetic pool.. in a continuous line of evolution there is no clear frontier between different races, two pools of the same animals can start separating but not long enough in time to form two completely separate species.. ppl...
  8. Bk21

    Homosexual football player and evolution discussion

    to understand why blacks and whites (asians, etc..) are all called homo sapiens (same race), you have to go to the definition of "race" in french or "breed" - that's why scientists put all humans in the same race: if a black and a white mate, they give a viable child. But that doesn't mean that...
  9. Bk21

    Homosexual football player and evolution discussion

    ?? of course races exist! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(biology) but I don't see your point and I don't see why everybody is so against science when it is the best thing humans has ever experienced - you and I and everybody here on this forum are benefitting in our daily life of the...
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    Homosexual football player and evolution discussion

    evolution is not a "theory" in the way you understand it.. and one thing that is beautiful about science is that it is open to criticism (unlike religion), we can discuss facts about evolution. But at least to be able to discuss one thing both of us should be aware of it totally, that's why I...
  11. Bk21

    Homosexual football player and evolution discussion

    nobody was aware of bacteria but now we are nobody was aware of penicillin but now we are nobody was aware of such and such 2000 years ago, but now we are nobody was aware of the theory of evolution but now we are: facts are facts we do not accept them or not regarding consquences, these are...
  12. Bk21

    Homosexual football player and evolution discussion

    Finally somebody who is aware of the evolution theory , thx Anak! (no comment on the 2nd part)
  13. Bk21

    Homosexual football player and evolution discussion

    actually the VAST MAJORITY of europeans know that evolution is truth, I'm shocked that you're not aware of that! now professors are being aggressed in schools physically and verbally by the new wave of muslims contesting Evolution for godly reasons.. but the figures are close to 100percent...
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    Homosexual football player and evolution discussion

    This is a typical question of a person who has never heard of evolution at all! I mean somebody who never read any single book or article about evolution! for the simple reason is that we SHARE COMMON ACESTORS with chimpanzees and other modern apes, but we never evolved from modern monkey!! the...
  15. Bk21

    Homosexual football player and evolution discussion

    why? scientific accomplishments are property of all mankind
  16. Bk21

    Homosexual football player and evolution discussion

    Let me just get it straight: you don't beleive in evolution? if yes it's really sad; but I encourage every one to read about it a little bit If anybody is interested "the moral landscape" by Sam Harris is a good reading too BTW, you're right, there is no "commonsense" in science, just facts
  17. Bk21

    Homosexual football player and evolution discussion

    questions posed here are numerous and each deserves a 100 pages thesis. the fact that WE can chose nice bits from the bible proves that moral comes within ourselves, leaving the horrible parts of the bible away (and the ancient testament). you'll never say "child slavery" because you know it's...
  18. Bk21

    Homosexual football player and evolution discussion

    common "biblic" sense, not common sense! instead of getting our morals from the bible, we better get them from science: there are very good evolutionary and genetic reasons to have a minority of homosexual among us- we cherish so much science not to let just our "common sense" (understood...
  19. Bk21

    Homosexual football player and evolution discussion

    You make a fair point, if I may sum our POV, you agree with me forand attitude of just being "tolerant" or "indifferent" without gayness being promoted or being a "group pressure" that have additionnal power or rights just for being so. I expressed my rejection of this kind of behavior and we're...
  20. Bk21

    Homosexual football player and evolution discussion

    I'll go quickly warn my wife then! Seriously, if you read my answer until the end you would've understood that the answer is no. Just picturing the gay sexact makes me nauseous, but it's just not enough for me to hate or discriminate someone for not having same preferencies as mine
  21. Bk21

    Homosexual football player and evolution discussion

    when they have no more arguments, they go down to insults.. that suits me better: at least you know that you're not in front of an intelligent creature capable of responding in a civilized manner
  22. Bk21

    Homosexual football player and evolution discussion

    first of all I take the "atheist" as a compliment, thanks a lot! I was yesterday at a scientific researchers gathering in a university here in town (multiple domains of research), I asked some if they are beleivers or atheists; the answer is predictible but none of them beleive in God; an...
  23. Bk21

    Homosexual football player and evolution discussion

    my point is LIVE AND LET LIVE, why focus on sexual preferances of ppl? my guess was that some minds are polluted by the biggest plague which ever struck humanity: RELIGION
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    white goal scorers 2012-2013

    I remember a doc about Arsenal and Thierry Henry; Arsene Wenger said that Henry didn't score at his first 8 or so matches! but he beleived in him and keep trusting his scoring abilities with the consequences everybody knows.. I feel Wenger is willing to do the same with Giroud, he just beleives...
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