US Open 2007

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  1. Matra1

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    The only build up to this year's Open I've heard on US TV was the PTI guys giving % probabilities on whether one of the Williams sisters will win. [​IMG]

    Other possible stories (off the top of my head):

    Will the lovely Maria Sharapova repeat or is Justin Henin - six time tournament winner this year already - just too good?

    Will Serbian Ana Ivanovic keep getting better?

    Andy Murray from Scotland missed Wimbledon but says he'd prefer to win the US Open anyway!

    The Roger/Rafa rivalry has mostly been on clay but moved to grass at this year's Wimbledon; bring on the hard court battle!

    Speaking of Federer he could become the first man since Bjorn Borg to win two grand slams - Wimbledon & US - four times in a row. That would be a monumental feat though Michael Wilbon will still go on about how Roger's "not even known in his own 'hood" so you can't compare him to Tiger Woods!

    Then there's Novak Djokovic, another Serb. He beat Federer in the Canadian final in Montreal two weeks ago but can he do it at a grand slam?

    Can Roddick get his game together again?

    Will any (white) American make it beyond the first week?



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    Uh oh. No sooner had I posted the above when a black American, Donald Young, won his first match, with a standing ovation from the all-white crowd, and the USA network commentators praising him to the heavens. He seemed modest for a black guy but we'll see how he behaves when he loses or wins a few more.
     
  4. Don Wassall

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    The Cultural Marxists are now starting to give Althea Gibson the Jackie Robinson treatment. The more time passes the more they pour it onwhile at the same timewhite heroes and achievements are disparaged and forgotten:
    <H2>It's about time!</H2>
    <H1>Gibson finally gets just desserts for pioneering legacy</H1>


    NEW YORK -- At a tennis facility named for the woman who triumphed over sexism, inside a stadium named for the man who beat racism, the woman who made both victories possible finally got her due.


    It was 50 years ago Saturday that Althea Gibson became the first black player, male or female, to win the U.S. National Championships -- the precursor to the U.S. Open, which formally kicked off on Monday at BillIe Jean King National Tennis Center at Arthur Ashe Court. Given the USTA's habit for honoring itself and the players it made famous -- never the other way around -- one wonders what took them so long to get around to Gibson. The celebration itself lasted about 30 minutes and featured the standard clichés: a gospel choir (this one clad in white), a high school drum line and plenty of shots of the relatively few black revelers peppered among the crowd.


    Emcee Phylicia Rashad headlined an impressive delegation of 20 black women who, like Gibson, were trailblazers in their field: Mae Jamison, the first black woman to visit space; Carol Mosley Braun, the first black woman to become a U.S. Senator; and Aretha Franklin, likely the first person ever to get made up before a post-performance news conference with mostly print reporters.


    While Braun, Jameson, Jackie Joyner Kersee, Rachel Robinson (baseball pioneer Jackie Robinson's widow) and others stood together in smiley silence while mayors Michael Bloomberg and David Dinkins submitted sleepy orations and Franklin led the crowd in a sing-a-long of "Respect," visions of Jackie Robinson played on the big screen overhead. Robinson is always the person with whom Gibson is most often compared. And, while it's true both were the first to break the color barrier in their respective sports, they endured the same struggle in very different ways. Robinson, though hesitant initially, eventually came to embrace his status as a trailblazer.


    Gibson was more inclined to see herself as a pioneer. Standing 5-foot-11 and possessing a powerful serve, she was certainly a rarity in the sport. As a singles and doubles player, she won 11 Grand Slam tournaments, capturing her first -- the '56 French Open -- at the relatively ripe age of 23.


    Much of the racism Robinson endured was overt, but he at least had the support of Brooklyn Dodgers owner Branch Rickey and the strength of his teammates to lean on. Gibson had to weather the more covert slings and arrows of institutional racism all by herself. She was denied rooms at the hotels; one even refused to book reservations for a dinner in her honor.


    Not that all the insults were implicit. When Gibson walked onto the court at Forest Hills to defend her U.S. crown in 1958, a banner in the stands caught her eye: GO BACK TO THE COTTEN PLANTATION ******. But it was the spelling not the slight that took Gibson aback. "Someone can't spell 'cotton,'" she whispered to her opponent.


    But most significantly, baseball has remembered Robinson, while tennis has treated Gibson like a taboo figure instead of a treasured one. Whereas Robinson's No. 42 hangs in every major league ballpark, before tonight, you would have been hard-pressed to find much to celebrate Gibson's stint in the sport. But now? Her likeness adorns a commemorative coin that will be used in match coin flips, is featured in a special exhibit honoring the accomplishments of the sport's black players inside Louis Armstrong and is cast on a bronze plaque that was inducted into the Bille King National Tennis Center's Court of Champions.


    Robinson's legacy, meanwhile, lives on through the legions of black and Afro-Latino ballplayers that would follow in his footsteps. Gibson's legacy, which includes 56 wins and five Grand Slam singles titles and pretty much ended with her death in 2003, did not lead to an influx of black women. More than 40 years passed before another, Serena Williams, won the U.S. Open, in 1999 -- and some of the same trials still endure. Just last month at the Sony Ericsson Championships in Miami, one of Serena's matches was repeatedly disrupted by a male spectator, who before each serve called out: "Hit the net like any negro would!" (The fan was later ejected.)


    Williams, who boasts credits on Law &amp; Order and ER, talked about the possibility of producing a film about Gibson's life, even entertaining the idea of playing the lead role. ("I'd have to learn how to hit a solid one-handed backhand," she would quip.) When you consider that Gibson was offered a role as a slave after winning Wimbledon in 1957, it gives you an idea of how far we've come. And how much farther we still have to go.


    "It was definitely a tough act to follow," Venus Williams said after her ensuing 6-2, 6-1 victory over Kyra Nagy that came on the heels of the festivities. "I got to be part of the story, too; and it was really moving."


    In the end, 14-year-old Brittany Hankerson may have struck the night's most fulsome note in a mostly insincere production. Her stirring rendition of the national anthem was punctuated by the color guard's unfurling of the flag over center court and the blast of fireworks. Later, as a hail of ash fell onto Ashe, sending soldiers and celebrities scattering and a cloud of smoke settled over the stadium, I couldn't help but wonder: All of her hard work reduced to this?


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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/andrew_lawrenc e/08/27/gibson.tribute/index.html
     
  5. sunshine

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    They pour it on and Gibson has not been ignored over the years as suggested.. Her name has been conjured up many times whenever Venus or Serena are a focus point which has been constant. The Jackie Robinson story has been done to death and as we watch baseball turn into the new football almost in the blink of an eye tennis will try and follow that trend. It does not take that long. Baseball has a plethora of black speed/athlete players emerging and on the horizon.
    As the grim storyline of fading whites continues in nearly all sports we are probably in for a spell of hell in tennis as well. White American girls are not as prominent as in the past as hungry black girls fight for position.
    Perhaps the real story to emerge in tennis in the next few years is Donald Young the hyped teen (ala Freddie Adu )who is showing signs of becoming the next superstar in tennis. I saw him play in person recently.
    I hate to beat a dead horse but I am a master of diagnosing problems. I can smell a rat miles away and this one will be tough on the system. The KEY for whites in the future of sports isn't really numbers per say. Who gives a damn how many white pitchers play. IT IS BREAKING THE STEREOTYPE OF SPEED. THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY AND PROGRESS ON THIS FRONT HAS STALLED AND EVEN GONE BACKWARDS AS OF LATE .
    Case in point. Compare the rising young American male players. You have two tall/pitcher types in Sam Querry and John Isner the latter 6'9" for crying out loud. They rely on power. Then there is Donald Young who has pop but also tons of speed and finesse and flair. Why is it that the black athletes get the speed card day in and day out as whites deliver the same ole tall stand in the pocket QB type of athlete? This trend has to reverse. WE NEED SPEEDY AND SUCCESSFUL WHITE ATHLETES TO EMERGE OR ELSE WE ARE DOOMED FOR ALL ETERNITY IN THE FUTURE.
    Young has the goods. He is probably the most electrifying American male to emerge since Johnny Mac and although early to predict he looks like a future champion. He is exciting but if he were white I would be the happiest person.
    If there is a light at the end of the tunnel in sports these days I will be the first one to let you all know.
    I know many think I am the grimmaster but I look reality in the eye. That is the only way to address the problem.
     
  6. sunshine

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    Sorry for double post but the emergence of Donald Young in the next couple of years will take tennis off the back pages in USA. Keep in mind the media onslaught and underlying theme of black superiority will rank supreme as Young's speed dimension will be cited oh 10 times per half hour every day for an eternity... James Blake--if this guy wins a major we will never hear the end of it--has been touted for years regarding his athleticism and SPEED.And for a guy that has never won a major he is treated like a royal champ. And recently one of the most respected tennis journalists wrote that Venus Williams with her speed was the GREATEST ATHLETE EVER IN TENNIS. Ever? Is that true?This isn't just pumping up blacks. It is a dig at whites too. This is the type of hell that sports has turned into--and I perhaps more than anyone else want to see this speed storyline disrupted in the future by whites who can better the blacks in the speed etc categories and emerge to the front of the line. We have Federer for now but the media has reduced his triumphs into nothing more than minor league stuff. SI coverless means he is not worth a penny according to the media..
    If and when Young wins his first major you can bet your ass he will be on the cover of SI.
    We are caught up in a demon wind of sports..I guess when we go to sleep we can dream of a world where speedy white atheletes emerge all over the place.Dreams is maybe what we will only have left.
    I hope to hell Federer wins the Open so I can watch the media do their little lets ignore dance once again.
     
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    "Her stirring rendition of the national anthem was punctuated by the color guard's unfurling of the flag over center court and the blast of fireworks"

    And, frankly, that is what America is all about these days: a manipulative marriage between diversity (hatred of whites)and patriotardism, with the former pulling the wool over the eyes of the latter.

    I refused to watch it. Last year it was similar, except it was all about lesbian/feminist pioneer Billie Jean King.

    A thing I dislike about the Williams sisters - make that ANOTHER thing I don't like about them - is the arrogance they display by refusing to play at many non-Grand Slam tournaments. (Not that I want to see more of them playing.) They think they are so good they just don't need to bother with the day to day grind of the smaller less prestigious tournaments that are necessary to the sport. They'd rather just show up for the glamour events with the big TV audience.
     
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    The Chutzpah Column of the Year should go to one Filip Bondy[​IMG] for this piece of Casteabsurdity claiming that Arthur Ashe is being ignored at the U.S. Open. Yes, the same U.S. Open that is taking place at Arthur Ashe Stadium, where there are multiple sculptures of Ashe (including one where he is naked), and where Arthur Ashe Kids' Day is celebrated.


    But in spite of that, "It is a sad irony that the U.S. Tennis Association, despite the best intentions, has badly botched its presentation of this pioneer whose name is everywhere, but whose likeness and good deeds are largely absent from the grounds. . . There is no hint to the tennis tourist. . . that Ashe was a great champion, a thinker, or that he was a black man in a white sport."


    Hint no, brain killing smash to the head by a sledgehammer, yes. It's better to laugh at these Cultural Marxistloons than let them get you angry. Article: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_sports/2007/08/27/200 7-08-27_us_open_no_match_for_arthur_ashes_spirit.html
     
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    Bondy from the Daily News is a good tennis journalist in general so I am not going to go crazy over his Ashe piece. But he misses the mark aprt from those weird statues of Ashe.. Ashe is routinely mentioned in tennis circles and if I am not mistaken this so called "thinker" backed the idea of black athletic supremecy so F-him. And a few years ago a much publicised book written about Gibson was published so these two "pioneers" have not been ignored at all. Pure bunk.
    Beyond this though is what I call the "SHADOW EFFECT" and tennis is a good sport to bring up since the majority of players are white. The SHADOW EFFECT is a term I use to describe what happens when blacks enter into any realm of sports. This is why when people point out "well the majority of say tennis players are white it means much less than it portends. Tiger Woods is a good example of the SHADOW EFFECT where one black athlete in a sport reduces the rest of the white players to chopped up crab meat. But the SHADOW EFFECT goes far beyond that example because Woods is clearly the best golfer of his time and has the majors to back up that claim. The SHADOW EFFECT is even more evident when black speed enters the equation. For example there are only a few top black tennis players but the few that are out there go a long way. Here is how it works. The black players whether they win or not are espcially singled out for their SPEED and athleticism.(Monfils, Blake Williams x 2, Jamea Jackson, Young etc) This is pointed out constantly way beyond speed mentions for any white player.. The SHADOW EFFECT is essentially when a sport is hijacked by black players because we are told they possess a certain level of speed that REDUCES THE WHITE PLAYERS TO BASICALLY CHOPPED UP CRAB MEAT..In otherwords SPEED is the key weapon that is used against (and for the sake of contrasts) whites in all sports and I believe the only way to disrupt the current DEMON WIND(black supremecy unchallenged) that prevails over sports today is to unlock that secret code of speed .
    It does not take an army of blacks to reduce whites to crumbs. It only takes one really . Like a toxin in a pool the whole pool is contaminated by a single drop of a strong toxin. The entire white race has to know that speed is the element they need the most otherwise they will be reduced to looking like clods no matter how many times that outnumber blacks in sports.Baseball fits that profile to a tee with white pitchers and black centerfielders.Or like the suburban school with only one black on the roster who is the star running back with "speed." This SHADOW EFFECT must be addressed and ultimately destroyed. Otherwise things will continue to worsen to the point of no return. We are almost there for eternity the way things have been going. Pinning hopes on one white tailback/fullback for the Rams only accentuates the level of groveling that whites have been reduced to in the era of the DEMON WIND. Progress is say 10 starting white cornerbacks in the NFL.
    Until the time whites take speed much more seriously caste-football will continue to be a resevoir of frustration. Sorry for all these doom and gloom sermons on the mount but I have never been more frustrated over sports than I am these days. This will probably be my last sermon for a while but to toot my own horn this is an important post.
     
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    I just put on USA network's coverage. They showed some black (from Africa, I think) female wildcard, Asha Rolle, who managed to beat the top 20 Tatiana Golovin (Franco-Russian) in the first round, on the night Althea Gibson was celebrated with an "all star" celebration involving First Black Female Senator (some times known as Carol Mosely Braun) and Aretha Franklin and that has-been who played Cosby's wife. She then then upset some Italian in the second.

    Meanwhile the black American Donald Young, mentioned in the second post above, moves on to the third round due to his opponent withdrawing due to a viral infection or something.

    Two blacks unexpected to pass the first round are in the third. I think we can expect the usual hype.
     
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    Young has not lived up to his early promise. He's only won one match at the Open so far. His highest ranking before this was #221. He's 18 now and should be coming into his prime. I'll believe his success when I see it.
     
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    CBS has had Young on all afternoon. But here comes Isner, a white college kid who just took the 1st set from Federer. He's 6'9" with a monster serve. What's a network to do?
     
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    So much for Young. Just got beat by Feliciano Lopez. Fed advances.
     
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    I wanted to vomit with the Donald Young match due to the media ass kissing from McEnroe, Carillo and others. He wears his cap at an angle and has such an 'tude on his face. I am waiting for the racism charge to fly faster than one of Federer's serves if an chair umpire asks him to place the cap straight or take it off. The future of American tennis...going downhill and becoming ghettoized.

    Halfrican Blake lost today...now McEnroe and crew will have to kiss Serena & Venus big butts for the remainder. Oh, is Andy Roddick still in the Open?
     
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    Every year we hear about James Blake and every year he loses at or before the quarters.

    Roddick is still around. Until he meets Fed or Rafa that is.

    Yeah SeaJim, without an American black male to root for it's going to be all Williams all the time from here on out. UGGGHHH.

    In the meantime I will try to sit back and enjoy the quiet excellence of Roger Federer. What else can one do?
     
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    Justine Henin beats Serena Williams again.

    Here's a few choice sections of the AP article:

    NEW YORK (AP) -- Maybe Serena Williams wasn't as healthy as she said.
    Maybe she wasn't as match-tested as she really needed to be.

    This much is certain: When it comes to playing Justine Henin at Grand
    Slams this year, Williams has been overmatched every time.

    Asked if she could explain what went wrong, a sullen Williams replied:
    "No. I can't. I'm sorry. Any more questions?"

    "She made a lot of lucky shots," Williams said a moment later, a white
    baseball cap pulled low over her eyes, "and I made a lot of errors."

    Their matchup at Wimbledon in July didn't feature Williams at her
    absolute best: She could barely hit backhands after spraining her left
    thumb and hurting her left calf in the previous round. Because of the
    thumb, Williams withdrew from every event she was scheduled to play in
    the 11/2 months between Wimbledon and the U.S. Open.

    "I don't think that affected me," she said. "I don't think it did. Maybe it
    did."

    "It's kind of like she had no energy. No get-up-and-go," said Williams'
    mother and coach, Oracene Price. "Tennis is a head game, sometimes.
    Your head tells you to do something, but you can't."


    Outside of her mother/coach not understanding the meaning of the term
    "head game", the list of excuses here is really ridiculous. We'll have to
    see if her sister Venus Williams wins. If not, my guess is the excuse train
    will ride again. The same thing seems to be the case with Michelle Wie. I
    guess when a minoirty loses to a white, there must be something wrong.
    It can't be that the white is simply the better player that day.
     
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    Justine Henin... I love that chick.[​IMG]Venus Williams really is a classless, pathetic, petty, and whiny little *itch. [​IMG]
     
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    I watched the Serena Williams-Justine Henin match and there was one huge difference between the two players. Henin is in far better shape. She never seemed winded and has none of the body fat that Serena carries around. As Serena ran out of gas Justine actually got more aggressive and played harder.

    Serena's natural power and speed may work against many of the tours slower and weaker players, but Henin has a complete game to go with her superb conditioning.

    I don't believe Serena could ever muster up the mental and physical discipline necessary to train hard enough to beat Henin. Edited by: GWTJ
     
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    That's standard Serena Williams. Nobody can beat me. I either beat myself or they were lucky.

    Some black athletes act like they are 12 years old. But strictly speaking, isn't that what intelligence research predicts?
     
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    I watched the whole match and I didn't see any "lucky shots" by Henin. She won the second set 6-1, how many lucky shots could there have been! Bye Serena! How about giving some due respect and props to your opposition every once in a while and maybe you should play in a few more of the minor tournaments throughout the year and you won't be so gassed in the majors. Edited by: guest301
     
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    It's especially great to see a normal looking girl repeatedly beating Serena and not some fellow bulked up freak like Mauresmo -- "half a man" as Martina Hingis once said of her. [​IMG]
     
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    Amazing turnabout by the caste media. Perhaps tennis reporters are a bit less infatuated by black athletes (except to pay the normal PC tribute to past players) and so they are not as reluctant to turn on the bitch.

    American media turn on "classless" Serena

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070905/sp_nm/tennis_open_serena _reaction_dc

    Williams's words and manner were greeted with widespread disdain.

    "(Williams) met the media afterward like a rattlesnake meets a ground squirrel," wrote Bill Dwyre, in the Los Angeles Times.

    "If anybody was expecting perspective afterward, or maybe a gracious nod to a better effort by an opponent, forget it. We had sullen Serena. Snippy Serena. Snarly Serena."

    In the New York Times, under the headline, "Williams needs a lesson in etiquette," Selena Roberts wrote: "Who's classless now?

    "The grumpy, borderline nasty disposition that Williams displayed after her loss was a little jarring considering she had her own lack of preparation to blame for giving in so easily to Henin.

    "Serena was bitter, angry and upset. She directed some of that at Henin. Who could use charm school now?"
     
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    Steroids can make you a bit cranky. Edited by: Kaptain Poop
     
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    Venus beat Jankovic 4-6, 6-1, 6-6 (3). They announced that this was the first time in five years that one of the Williams sisters was in the final four of the U.S. Open.

    It was interesting to observe the differences between the two. Venus served at over 110 mph practically every time, and Jankovic often had a difficult time even returning serve. She, on the other hand, served at around 80-90 mph and Williams routinely returned serve. Jankovic seemed to use more accurate shot placement to win, whereas Williams was more powerful throughout. Williams lost a lot of points hitting the ball out of bounds. Jankovic had some opportunities to put Williams away but did not capitalize.

    Williams' next opponent is Henin, who defeated Serena in her previous match. Let's hope she can make it a double and take out Venus, too. [​IMG]
     
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    The main difference last night was not athleticism or speed or quickness. Jankovic had that in spades. The media does a good job of shielding the public from this truth--see basketball ala Vince Carter or Alan Iverson etcwith their unbelievably long limbs and hands--but the elemental difference last night was body type. Venus has super duper long limbs and a high big powerful rear end. This gives her a mechanical advantage beyond anything dealing with speed. Yes she moves extremely well for a girl her size but one can't say her quick twitch muscles are any quicker than Jankovics.. NO. The real key was the leverage and reach that helped Venus win. The leverage gives her a decided advantage in power and especially serving. The reach gives her that extra court coverage. And one could say how does she get to the low balls on fast courts--with the bending over. Simple. Her arms are SO long that she can scoop up low shots without bending over that much. In a nutshell all this focus on Venus' speed masks the body type advantage she has over every opponent she plays. And she is longer than Sharapova even without being taller.
     
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    Great match between Federer and Roddick.
     

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