The truth about the drug war

[White_Savage]

The Nordics used mind-altering plants, especially fungi, for thousands of years before we used alcohol. Opium was our only real pain killer from the middle ages onward to the 19th century.

Yet somehow we managed to form civilizations where the majority of citizens were not addicted to 'shrooms, and were at least FUNCTIONAL alcholics, (European drinking habits being what they are).

In America's "Golden Age", anyone big enough to reach the counter could take their money into the General Store and buy a jug of whiskey, a jar of opiate, any gun made, some of them automatic, and a case of dynamite. And things were better than they are now.

So any drug laws are just another handle for the gub'ment to jerk us about. Sure, they were passed using hysteria about "reefer-crazed" Blacks and Mexicans, but really, if we are going to ban something here, why make it the PLANT?

Speaking of plants, you realize that you, me, and anyone else CAN be convicted of drug charges if someone so desires. No question. Several police departments have ALREADY been investigated for falsifying evidence so they could practice theft under siezure laws. Those are just the ones who have been caught.

And then there's Rush Limbaugh...I could almost forgive him for giving a pass to the Jack-booted thuggery of the DEA while being a drug addict, if it weren't for the fact that he made jokes about "Wacko" Texas while his supposed-enemy Clinton was having his ATF thugs burn women and children to death in Waco as a trial run of what kind of attrocities Americans would tolerate. No, Limbaugh and his Right-Wing socialists friends are in no way our allies or worthy of respect.Edited by: White_Savage

 

[Ground Fighter]

In America's "Golden Age", anyone big enough to reach the counter could take their money into the General Store and buy a jug of whiskey, a jar of opiate, any gun made, some of them automatic, and a case of dynamite. And things were better than they are now.

Excellent observation. What the government doesn't realize is that the more restrictions they put on us, the more hostility they are going to create amongst us.
Also, going back 100-150 years ago, EVERYONE carried a gun. I'm sure you could walk into any saloon back then, and see some guy casually cleaning his gun, and no one would even care or bat an eyelash at it. And I'm sure this deterred criminals at least a little bit from doing harm, knowing that their is a good possibility that they were going to get a "cap in they ass".

Now-a-days, ONLY the criminals have the firearms, and the common citizen is left defenseless, thanks to the wussy-laws of today.

Being allowed to buy dynamite on the other hand, is probably not such a good idea, considering the current problems with terrorism in this country these days. If you were to make that legal, every Abdul, Achmed, and Habib would be headin' down to the ol' Walmart....with coupons in hand.

 

[jaxvid]

Pot busts are big business for law enforcement. In Detroit for example the police do a sweep every few days and fill all of the jails in the city with pot users. It's all black guys of course, but still.

It's strictly business though. The system needs to cycle through a few thousand arrestees every week, it feeds the massive complex of police, gaurds, counselors, parole agents, medical personel etc etc that the black inner city depends on.

Blacks busting and arresting then housing and caring for other blacks is the only business that most inner cities have. It brings in cash from the state and Fed govts. Lots of it. Take away the criminal class and the whole system as f'ed up as it is falls apart.

They need "customers". Pot is great for business. First of all black guys love the stuff. I mean really love it. They will smoke that sh*t until they get old and die. Most white guys give it up at some point. Not the brutha's.

You can't throw a rock in a big city and not hit a guy with some weed. It's an easy bust for the cops. They can stop vitually any car they find and get themselves some customers for a few nights stay at the "Detroit Hilton"

The good side is that they catch a lot of other scum, but its just incidental. Anyway the whole point is they will never ever let this easy source of prison filler go away. Pot will never be legalized in the current environment. Oh and BTW out next large scale guests in this country are also....pot amenable

 

[Ground Fighter]

It's strictly business though. The system needs to cycle through a few thousand arrestees every week, it feeds the massive complex of police, gaurds, counselors, parole agents, medical personel etc etc that the black inner city depends on.

Not only that. Many people don't realize that the local municipalities make MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of dollars a year on bail money alone. And in places like Detroit, L.A., ATL, D.C., and my ex-home of Newark, NJ, its a cash cow business for the local government.

 

[White_Savage]

jaxvid: That's what it's really about.

Here's another fact: I live in a town of approximately 7500. The local police force HERE takes in 20-30 thousand dollars a year in moving vioaltions, the real reason behind seat belt laws, etc, and other excessive restrictions.

 

[Don Wassall]

The DUI hysteria is another sweet money making racket for the State. I have a friend who got a second one; he's out around 10K just in fines, courses he's forced to take and pay for, paying to have breathalyzer equipment put in his car, and other b.s. And that doesn't even count his legal bills and a huge leap in car insurance payments.


The "Drug War" and the piecemeal return of Prohibition are about money making scams for government, and part of the overallplan to build a police/surveillance state that will scare and intimidatemost white peoplefrom leaving their homes as their country continues to be taken away from them.

 

[jaxvid]

We haven't even touched on the biggest scam, asset forfeiture. The seizure of private property by local, state, and fed govt's is one of the biggest abuses of govt power in our history.

 

[White Shogun]

We haven't even touched on the biggest scam, asset forfeiture. The seizure of private property by local, state, and fed govt's is one of the biggest abuses of govt power in our history.

Or "Eminent Domain," either, which has to be the biggest violation of the Constitution since the McCain-Feingold Act that limited public criticism of political candidates. Both of which occurred under the watch of President Jorge Bush, a so-called "Reaganite."

 

[Ground Fighter]

We haven't even touched on the biggest scam, asset forfeiture. The seizure of private property by local, state, and fed govt's is one of the biggest abuses of govt power in our history.

Yeah true. If you so much as have a speck of weed on you when they pull you over, the bastards impound your vehicle. Then it ends up at some government auto auction. At least, thats what they do here in Dirty Jersey. Now you know why we call it "dirty". lol.

 

[C Darwin]

Before The US Customs service became a part of Homeland Security,
it was the only federal government agency to turn a profit.
Immigration came close, they seized a TON of vehicles from every
entry into the US.

 

[cslewis1]

And then there's Rush Limbaugh...I could almost forgive him for giving a pass to the Jack-booted thuggery of the DEA while being a drug addict, if it weren't for the fact that he made jokes about "Wacko" Texas while his supposed-enemy Clinton was having his ATF thugs burn women and children to death in Waco as a trial run of what kind of attrocities Americans would tolerate. No, Limbaugh and his Right-Wing socialists friends are in no way our allies or worthy of respect.

Not sure what you're saying here, my man. I don't think you can find a person who more criticized this abhorrent behavior by the Feds during Waco than Rush. Same goes with the Elian Gonzalez thing. Same goes for Ruby Ridge. Same goes for Campaign finance reform. Same goes for the assault on the tobacco companies or Microsoft, or Walmart, or whoever the feds make as the enemy of the day. Same goes for eminent domain.

Rush has never come out against the war on drugs, but I think in his heart of hearts he knows it's a sham.
National Review, the "right wing" William Buckley Jr. rag, that was the ONLY outfit to rail against communism back when it seemed inevitable, has been against the war on drugs for years and years. Milton Friedmen as well, the list from right wingers against drug prohibition goes on and on. No way Rush Limbaugh is in favor.
The Wall St. Journal editorial page, of course, is all for the War on Drugs. But they don't think there is an illegal immigrtion problem either.

 

[Ben Jefferson]

The Sumerians(Aryans)ie,Civilization that invented writing,the plough,claimed the"poppy plant of joy'".The neanderthal drew pictures of the poppy on cave walls in Switzerland 20,000 years ago.The Harrison Act,1914,began the criminalization of the drug addict,Doctors treated the addict as sick.This act was used to arrest doctors who treated such patients. Opium in many circles is considered the first antidepressants..Trouble is you can grow poppy in your front yard.Drug companies make mega bucks inventing oddball,chemical concoctions considered antidepressants.Drug Trafficing huge amounts of money.What does a poor man have but sex and alcohol.Bind him with profits,and addiction,voila the junkie.There is no problem with addiction.The problem lies in the procurement of the drug.During America's history opium,ludanum,and morphine,were used to stop alcohol abuse.Behavior improved remarkably.How many of you have felt the exercise rush of endorphins?The molecules of of the three main alkaloids of the poppy are identical.Identical!!The greatest painkiller known to man,even to this day,attached to that a sense of euphoria unmatched.This selfish act was promoted by Christian missionaries in the Philippines"to help the addicted population".Attach "drug war-terrorist war" .We may as well just get on train and head to Siberia,for America is Russia 100 years ago.We have willingly given up all of our personal freedoms in the name of "safety".Is America more safe today?I waked up awhile ago and found out everything I thought was right was wrong.That moment freed me to think open-minded.It begin a realization that just because it is pushed as fact,doesn't make it fact.Some group fears Western European man,his civilization,his art,his inventions,his way of life,his empathy for others.Most groups mass and follow,easy to herd.Western European man is not likely to do that.That means he is to be feared.

 

[JD074]

Interesting post, Ben. Who's Tom Robbins?

 

[Ben Jefferson]

For me,he is my favorite modern writer.A bit of a cult figure.Immensely funny,insightful,and historically factual.Born in the south,lives in Seattle.Fours years younger than my father.If you are interested in reading one of his books,I suggest Skinny Legs and All.

 

[JD074]

Thanks for the response.