Outside The Lines

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  1. Blue Devils

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    Did anyone else catch todays episode?

    It was about the lack of White American players in the NBA.

    A preview can be seen here

    The full segment should be up later. Edited by: Blue Devils
     
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  3. bigunreal

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    I listened to an audio of this on ESPN radio. It was a very, very illuminating program. Ex-Notre Dame guard Kyle McAlarney was quite outspoken on this show, sometimes coming close to sounding like a Caste Football poster. Good for him. It's about time one of these white athletes spoke up.

    The truly interesting parts of the program were the remarks of the Caste officials, defending the glaring lack of white players in the NBA. Most notable was Jerry West. He said that he couldn't think of a single white American player he'd pay to see. Then he poo-pooed the lack of white Americans by saying there are "plenty" of white players in the league- "why do they have to come from America?" Hmmm. Finally, he attributed the lack of white Americans to their questionable "work ethic." Oh yes, black Americans have long been noted for having a much stronger work ethic than their white peers. I can't believe Jerry West was my favorite NBA player as a kid. It's too bad he doesn't have a son or grandson tearing it up at the NCAA level- would he nod approvingly as the other white general managers shook their heads and told him "he can't create his own shot/can't guard anyone at this level, etc.?" More importantly, would any NBA g.m. like him give a present day Jerry West the opportunity to become one of the all-time great players?

    Another white ex-NBA player, present Raptors' g.m. Wayne Embrey, also made disparaging remarks about white American players, sprinkling his ridiculous explanations about the dearth of said players with constant references to the "athleticism" those who play in today's NBA must have. Of course, we all know that "athleticism" is one of the most obvious code words for "black" that the Caste System employs. Yet another former white player, Mike Dunleavy, gave McAlarney credit for being a fine 3-point shooter, but said he didn't have great size (McAlarney is only 5'11), or great speed and asked "who's he going to defend?" Dunleavy's own son has been given a bit of a chance in the pros, but one wonders if Pop might feel differently if Mike, Jr. had gone undrafted due to his lack of "athleticism."

    For the official jock-sniffer response to this program, here's a link, for those of you who can stand the stench:

    http://www.pittnews.com/article/2009/12/09/littman-thanks-espn-we-now-know-nbas-greatest-problem

    To his credit, McAlarney maintained on air that "I'm not slow. I can defend." This kid is doing what so many others should have a long time ago. He's mentioning the enormous elephant in the room. I have gained a great deal of respect for him. He is a real hero.
     
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    Little by little, cracks are forming in the caste system. It's very probable thatMcAlerney and his family read articles from Castefootball. Jerry West, and the rest of the whites that help propagate caste system lies suffer form that disgusting control mechanism known as political correctness. But that fact that this issue is now getting some attention in the MSM, although they slant it overhwlmingly in their favor, is good nontheless.
     
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    bigunreal,

    Can you mention some of the things (or at least 1 thing) McAlarney said? I enjoyed watching Kyle play and he reminded me of Gerry McNamarra, another player screwed by the caste system.
     
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    There weren't that many direct quotes from McAlaraney during the program, but obviously he was the impetus behind it. Ont thing I did hear him say is that if you just looked at his stat sheet without knowing his skin color, lots of NBA teams would have been interested in him. Also, at one point during the show, the announcer stated that McAlaraney was speaking out not only for himself, but for all the other kids he played basketball with on Staten Island, and for other kids in years to come. I don't know if those sentiments were actually expressed by McAlarney, but the program left that impression.

    Hopefully McAlarney's public comments will encourage other white players to speak out. He is a profile in courage.
     
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    Gotta congratulate Mark Schwarz for this segment. Kyle McAlarney is indeed a profile in courage. Even the best ball-game FT shooter ever, Blake Ahearn should speak out.
     
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    As I've commented before, individual defense in basketball is not measurable. Therefore, it is the easiest excuse to keep white players off the court.

    Jerry West is a clown. He had his opportunity before the caste system evolved to this point. Maybe he relishes being the last great white shooting guard of note. Does he really believe in this day and age he would be allowed to shoot 20 times per game?

    The infallibility of the caste system is once you get 85% of the league black, then it self perpetuates. With blacks competing against blacks the white media can marvel at the athletic greatness without argument.
     
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    Thanks for the reply. It's good that Kyle realizes that this goes beyond him as an individual. Glad he sees the "bigger picture".
     
  10. Electric Slide

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    I'm watching it on ESPN now. Although people are making excuses, I'm glad the issue is being aired. Hopefully this will wake some people up and direct them to caste football!
     
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    They should do a segment on white running backs, recievers, cornerbacks, safeties and defensive linemen.
     
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    I don't know, I didn't like the fact that the White player on there seemed to be degrading the athleticism of White players. Said the White guy who won the slam dunk contest would be the only White guy to ever win it, because he thinks Whites aren't athletic enough.

    I hate when White players degrade the ability of Whites more than anything.
     
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    Ditto here DWID. These Whites seem racially neutered with these bogus, caste-esque comments.[​IMG]

    Brent Barry won the dunk contest in 1996 & there's plenty other White players who were top notch dunkers. Amongst them was the high-flying Tom Chambers who "posterized" many'a "affletes"...

    Tom Chambers Legendary Dunk Against the Knicks

    Tom Chambers Reverse in Traffic (vs. Lakers)

    Chambers Dunks on Bulls

    Chambers Dunks on Robert Reid's Head

    Chambers High-Flying Highlights (put it on mute)

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    Mindaugas Katelynas was a player who won the 2005 college slam dunk championship. Rex Chapman, Chase Budinger, Bob Sura, and Tom Chambers are some great white dunkers</font>
     
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    MSU's Matt Steigenga played for the Bulls, the CBA & in Europe. In HS, he was Mr.Michigan (basketball) & won the McDonald's All-American slam dunk contest. As a 9 year old (circa 1979), he won the NFL Punt, Pass and Kick Competition (for kids). Matt scored his first NBA field goal on an alley oop dunk against the Toronto Raptors. He had a 40"+ vertical leap (at 6'7).







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  16. Electric Slide

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    They had one black guy on there who seemed somewhat in favor of our cause. He noted that if another white American player was able to get out there that young white fans would realize that players that look like them play, and that they too might be able to do it. What I don't get is they think that white players are good scorers, yet they said they are suspect on defense. What about guys like John Stockton and Larry Bird? They were mentioned in the show but no claims against their defensive skills. Where they just genetic freaks who break the chain of "un-athletic" white Americans?

    They never gave a solid reason. The one white player on there said "most NBA players come from poor backgrounds and can't go the skate-park, play x-box." BS! Most skate-parks are in urban areas, and blacks probably play x-box as much as white kids!

    Even though several gave terrible excuses for the lack of American whites, they did importantly note that whites do have a stigma and need to break it. I totally agree, why else would some coaches like Calipari NEVER recruit white players, and guys like Coach K do?

    Also, I do think they should have noted Steve Nash, who is not your typical "international" player. He grew up in British Columbia and went to college in California. So for our purposes he is an American white player 2X MVP.

    All in all I'm glad the issue was raised and they gave a chance to highlight McAlarney and didn't call him racist for saying he wants not only to play for himself, but for the young kids that look like him!
     
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    Jerry West is an idiot for not caring about where the players come from. What is the point of a country if your own people don't get the jobs. This country is a farce.
    I never watch the NBA or NCAA anymore. It's boring.
     
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    I watched the whole program today, and discovered I missed a few things. First, Wayne Embrey is actually black. I should have known that, but his career seemed so nondescript to me that I barely remembered him. Imagine my astonishment, then, to hear him described today as a Hall of Famer! Wow- just wow. Second, Jon Barry is a complete idiot. So is Mark Price.

    When asked about the lack of white American players in the NBA, Price giggled like a schoolgirl and said, "I guess they're not good enough." Yeah, Mark, I'm sure your little ass would be given a chance to play today. You'd be just like Gerry McNamara, McAlarney and so many others. Barry rambled on incoherently about how whites have too much money so their kids skate board and play X-Box, instead of being on the court all day like the black youngsters. Huh? All white kids come from wealthy families? All black kids play basketball all day? Quick question- since no blacks apparently play video games, why is every player on the cover of Madden black? Who are they marketing to?

    After actually watching this program, it's hard not to totally despise Jerry West, Mike Dunleavy, Mark Price and Jon Barry. Each of them was permitted to play in the NBA, and Dunleavy's son is now playing. No one in their families has been frozen out, like so many other white players have. They obviously subscribe to the arrogant notion that they are so "special," and can therefore safely dismiss all other white players in order to ensure the gratitude of their black peers. It also allows them to make huge salaries after their playing careers are over. On the other hand, I have more respect than ever for Kyle McAlarney. We need a lot more like him.
     
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    If you have ever watched the ESPN show where they have "madden enthusiasts" playing each other to determine who is the best at video game football you will see plenty of non-Whites playing. Not sure why its on ESPN, but the times I watched it, there were mostly mix raced people that were out of shape, blacks and latinos. The two biggest video game nerds that I ever encountered were black. They would talk about playing x-box non stop when they both worked the same shift. Ive never been into video games, and only one of my friends plays video games frequently, and he started playing in college. Im only 25 and there wasn't xbox around when I was growing up.

    So we're supposed to believe that the reason why there are not many Whites playing RIGHT NOW (lots of players around my age or older in the league ) is because they were too busy playing a video game system that didn't even exist when they were kids? I mean there was sega and nintendo, but the kids in my area could not seriously play those machines for more than an hour, and that is if it was a rainy day. We stayed outside playing sports or some sort or game that involved exercise for the most part. If it was daylight , we would usually be outside. I don't know if that is true for the youngest generation, but those kids are still kids at the moment, and I overhear plenty of black kids talk about video games as well as White. Its funny how hollywood makes people think a majority of White kids are nerds that do nothing but play video games. Look at the chumps from the popular movie Superbad, most people would think those kids were White, but they are jewish.

    What a lame excuse, it fails to mention the good White college players that don't get an opportunity. They aren't too busy playing x-box.Edited by: dwid
     
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    Jerry West, Mike Dunleavy, Mark Price and Jon Barry are bunch of brainwashed morons. They are obviously blind to the truth. They don't seem to realize, that if they were born 2-3 decades later, they'd never make it to an NBA bench. If Kyle McAlarney was born 2-3 decades earlier, he'd be an NBA superstar, posting 20-30 points a game with his uncanny speed, quickness and hustle for a player his size. He's even be better than Gail Goodrich in many ways. He's definitely earned my respect, while I can't help but despise the previous 4 mentioned. For our sake, I hope John Stockton doesn't share the same views. Though it's most likely he does too. It's fortunate though that, the one player who does shares our views to a great degree is LARRY BIRD! [​IMG]
     

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