Michael Johnson: Slave descendants have 'superior athletic gene in us.’

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  1. Matra2

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    Michael Johnson says slave descendants from the USA and Caribbean will dominate:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-descendants-slaves-medals-sprint-finals.html

    Since there has been no outrage and British TV has aired a documentary on the subject does this mean we are now allowed to make similar comments about accomplishments in other sports (tennis, soccer, etc) and fields of endeavour (eg science) being due to genes rather than discriminatory "white privilege"?

    :nono:

    Didn't think so.
     
  2. white lightning

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    Why even post these lies? LOL. There is as much of a connection of sprinting to slaves as there is of ice cream to pizza. Nothing in common. How about if Michael Johnson answers the real question. The link between P.E.D.s and sprinters performances. Even he like Maurice Greene was nothing special for quite a while and then he became unbeatable almost overnight. The same way cheats like Flo Jo, Marion Jones, Tim Montgomery,etc. The better the drugs, the better the sprinter. Jamaica has only been good over the last decade or a little longer. They never dominated until those magical yams. The guys from the States just cheat better just like they used to in the European Bloc Countries.

    Sorry but I get tired of the countless lies to try to explain something that isn't real. Not buying it and I never will.
     
  3. elispeedster

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    Comical. Why would slavery make better sprinters, why not distance runners? American and Caribbean Blacks are very weak 800 meters and up. Slavery with its long work would be suited for stamina than speed, I would assume?

    My take is this - the only advantage I can see is that genetically, the West African (decedents of slaves) has a different body shape that may be slightly beneficial - long legs and arms with a short trunk in relation to height, and higher hips. Some Caucasians like Christophe Lemaitre have this body type which is also common, not much though, in North European populations.
     
  4. GiovaniMarcon

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    I don't think slavery took place in America for long enough (less than 200 years) and has too limited a population vis-a-vis the total number of Black people descended from the slave days to really affect the genetic makeup of all Negroes in America.

    Talk such as the kind propagated by Michael Johnson is just more proof that people are stupid.

    And the fact that people are putting a microphone in front of this 'roided dumbass and actually nodding their heads like idiots as to what he's saying, is further proof that America has become a nation of pu$sies.

    Everyone ignores the elephant in the room: The White race conquered the world and created science and industry, climbed mountains and built monuments because it is the strongest.

    The Black race sat around in one-story (if that) mud huts and were regularly outsmarted by lions.

    THE END.
     
  5. Zeus

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    I would give a very detailed and proper answer to these claims by only sticking to the facts, stats, dominance of whites in various sports, lack of capability of the "super athletic" blacks to even be competitive in so many athletic activities and sports etc but I won't cause I will be accused of "hating" the black man again and I am tired of it!

    So I will follow the example of the open minded, bighearted average white American guy and say "Well said Michael, you are welcome to say even more in favor of blacks or even against us whites, we will swallow it"
     
  6. frederic38

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    i copy and paste something i posted in another thread about this:


    blacks are the ultimate athletes because they underwent selective breeding for what, 100-200 years?
    us europeans have been doing this for thousands of years
    europeans knew about abortion, and they used it
    it has always been "quality over quantity" in europe
    abortion was used in an eugenic way, to get better, or at least to stay the best in the world
    i could quote plato or other ancient philosophers about eugenics, but i don't even need
    all i need is to say that we used abortion as a way to select the best children during all our history

    another thing that shows how europeans had selective breeding:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanti...reece_and_Rome


    http://tmh.floonet.net/articles/witches.html




    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasimodo


    and what happened to all the slaves that were brought to brazil, or other parts of south america? or haiti?
    and why jamaica had to wait until 2008 to dominate sprints since they are suposedly the best genetically?
    it's all about hormones, doping
     
  7. white is right

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    Read about Serfdom. The local landlord forced serfs to work the land and taxed the serfs what crop they sowed. If they refused to pay the baron he got his army/thugs to make examples of the serf by stringing him up or raping his wife, etc. These conditions existed like this in continental Europe for centuries. They still exist like this in rural India. Nobody is speculating that these people have been bred to be super athletes. Also the simple examples of mating two big/strong slaves doesn't produce a fast runner. Most of the runners pre PED's were slight runners who had little bulk to their frame ie what Johnson is built like now. Here is the doc on Youtube....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQnMr-IW_iw
     
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    As posters here have shown Johnson's comments are silly. It seems certain he knows Jamaicans (and now other Caribbean countries) are using PEDs and he is providing a cover up story. IMO it now raises questions about his own performances.
     
  9. Tside

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    I mentioned a bit about this in a previous thread.

    To summarize, MJ comes across as a bit of a racist. He sits at home watching his favourite Jesse Owens videos from the Berlin Olympics defeating the other white athletes and feels proud about this. He connects it immediately to only slavery.

    I have lost a lot of respect for MJ recently. Channel 4 allow him to make this sort of documentary without a blink of an eye. He and his other fellow champion athlete "slaves" have been on drugs for years. Yet he goes to Jamaica and every brainwashed viewer just assumes how wonderful it all is.

    Slavery would surely make the race stronger if they were doing slow continual efforts all day, yet I do not see dominance in the strength events like weightlifting...
     
  10. Riddlewire

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    Michael Johnson possesses the logic of a 5 year old.

    I could easily make the counter argument that his ancestors were only slaves in the first place because they were the easiest ones to catch. So the entire "african american" ethnic group is descended from the slowest and dumbest that Africa had to offer.
     
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    also, the serfs refused to pay very often, they had way more character than the black slaves, and also way more character than today's whites
     
  12. Jimmy Chitwood

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    it seems Michael Johnson can't keep from running his mouth whilst sticking his foot in it ... after the ridiculousness of his slave-based commentary, Johnson is now claiming that Oscar Pistorius has an unfair advantage ... because he has artificial legs. :dizzy:
     
  13. jaxvid

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    I don't know Jimmy, I read the article and Johnson sounded pretty reasonable. What advantage does it give? Who knows? But maybe someday it does give an advantage and then what? The PC crowd will shriek if a disabled person is denied even with an advantage. Why not a guy with rockets for feet?

    I know in this case the guy is not going to medal but he may beat out some people for who getting to a semi-final is quite an accomplishment. Is that fair? It's bad enough people are cheating by putting things into their bodies, what a dangerous precedent is set by having people compete by putting things ON their bodies.
     
  14. Vanilla_Sky

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    It's absurd for Johnson to make such a claim. While Pistorius's blades do consume less energy then a standard limb, they also are unable to generate any energy from the leg muscles and instead he must rely almost entirely on his core strength. The blades are also primitive by medical standards and aren't anything other then carbon fiber blades, not some kind of "springs" people seem to think they are. The blades also likely effect his ability to start out of the blocks in a negative way.

    I'm all for Pistorius and I hope the rest of you are as well.
     
  15. Jimmy Chitwood

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    i know that down the line technology might come along that could give an advantage, but in the case of Pritorius his "springs" don't. i recall an article a couple of years ago that revealed the limitations of technology that prevented him from getting the elasticity in his steps that is provided by our Achilles heel. i can see the counter point, though. he's not completely natural ... maybe if he were only taking Jamaican yams everything would be okay. *wink*

    what really bothers me, though, is that Johnson is degrading a White athlete. after his Slave Power comments, this really rubs me the wrong way.
     
  16. greyghost

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    just plain stupid

    johnson has been criticised on several athletics websites... he has just added more evidence that he is a rascist with the usual black american chip on the shoulder...many bloggers are just fed up of his super righteous bull**** commentary also towards blacks of non usa or jamaican background....... the guy is being seen through by the general public... most definitely in europe.......
     

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