Elvis Presley and today's pop/rock stars!

Discussion in 'Media Racism and Stereotyping' started by Carolina Speed, Dec 22, 2013.

  1. Avante

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    I do like to keep it real......

    Elvis was greatly influensed by them old black blues, and his first record That's Alright Mama he stold from black bluesman Big Boy Crudup. And his first sessions for Sun Records had him covering tunes by bluesmen Lonnie Johnson and Juinor Parker.

    Elvis did listen to "race records" he did know the blues and gospel..

    Being into roots music there is just noway I can pretend blacks didn't play a major role in what we hear today, that would be silly.

    Hank Williams was taught the guitar by a black neighbor, Jimmie Rodgers has talked about listening to blacks in the fields in rural Mississippi growing up. Bob Wills covered tons of old black blues.

    When it comes to music we have to keep it real, there is no doubt the impact Robert Johnson, Bessie Smith, Muddy Waters, John Lee Hooker, The Mills Bros, Ray Charles and on and on,made. Hell, Jimi Hendrix.
     
  2. FootballDad

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    Yeah back then blacks could actually play instruments unlike today when the can only rap and scratch.
     
  3. Extra Point

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    Clearly Avante is black or someone who worships blacks. He probably thinks all whites are evil oppressors and all blacks are noble victims.

    His first sentence is a lie. On Presley's recording of That's All Right, Arthur Crudup is given full credit as the composer. Presley didn't "steal" the song.

    The idea that whites who may have been influenced by blacks constitutes "theft" is an anti-white narrative, fabricated to denigrate innocent whites. It's nonsense.

    The influences of whites on early rock music is written out of history by the lying anti-whites. Clearly country music was a major influence on early rock and roll.

    The white hating black supremacists talk about Presley's black influences but write out of history his white influences. For example, Presley was obviously heavily influenced by Dean Martin but you'll never hear the anti-whites mention it. Just listen to a Dean Martin song of that era and then listen to an Elvis song and you'll see the similarities.

    Old blues musicians such as Smith, Johnson, Waters and Hooker were boring and lousy. That's why they weren't that successful.

    Elvis's music was far better than their's. That's why a lot of people bought it.

    On issues of race people such as Avante are very predictable. It's always "whites bad, blacks good." Every single time.
     
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  4. Heretic

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    "...what we hear today...", is not any of that stuff, it's like what FootballDad mentioned...and I don't listen to any of it, so I'm not part of your "we".

    Traditional Country&Western music had it's roots in Celtic folk music blended in with other musical types from European immigrants. A White man invented the guitar. Blues is just one form of many forms of music and is not heard that much of today and is certainly no precursor to the hip-hop or rap that is forced upon us.

    Yes, Hendrix electrified and amplified the blues guitar and was revolutionary that way, but his band mates in "The Experience" were all White and exceptional, especially bassist Noel Redding, who was always rivaling Hendrix (because he didn't really care for him) and always pushing him to his limits because of how fast and adept he was at playing the bass guitar (but, of course, received no credit). "Second Wave" "British Invasion" bands like Led Zeppelin were heavily influenced by the likes of Muddy Waters in their early albums, but took it completely to the next level and the blues influenced waned as they progressed and grew throughout their musical careers.

    Elvis Presley, the same; he incorporated a lot of different musical styles, and not in every song. However, from the late 60's throughout all of the 70's his music contained just a minimal level blues, and more C&W and even Classical and pop musical sounds incorporated by a lot of the "lounge" singers, along with some great gospel, much of inspired by Whites as much as blacks.

    I think you are on the wrong discussion board.
     
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  5. Don Wassall

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    I'm pretty sure this guy is "Brutus," an infamous troll from the earlier days of Caste Football who has crawled out from under the rock he's been living under for the past decade or so.
     
  6. Avante

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    I can't stand black folks, so you couldn't be more wrong. I just know the music and how things were.
     
  7. Avante

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    Nope, this is my first time here. I can't act like I don't know the music can I?
     
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    Elvis was the king! Personally I listen to country, oldschool and outlaw, and dinosaur (classic) rock. Are there ANY white folks still making rock songs? Serious question.
     
  10. Charles Martel

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    Actually, Charlie Pride stole the country style of music from White people.

    White people invented the guitars that Chuck Berry and Jimi Hendrix played, as well as the piano that Ray Charles played.
     
  11. Bucky

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    Talk about cultural appropriation ;)
     
  12. Flint

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    Not any that get any airplay. Actually the place that has the best new rock are the Christian Music stations. They play good ol' power rock and singable songs.

    Regarding Elvis, as mentioned above, he was a big Dean Martin fan. It's why he had black hair, his hair was really much lighter, he dyed it dark black so he could be like Dino, the King of Cool.
     
  13. Carolina Speed

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    Right Flint. If anyone here hasn't listened to Christian Music, some of the best musicians are in here. Kutless' "Strong Tower is a great Christian Rock song, but they have so many others as well. Switchfoot had a good one out years ago called "Dare you to Move"
    I posted a Natalie Grant Christian Rock song video last year called, "I Will not be Moved" Check it out. She has the vocals of a Pat Benatar or Hearts Nancy Wilson if anyone here remembers these Rock and Roll ladies.
    Phil Wickham although more of a soft rock, his song "This is Amazing Grace" is great!
    Also Jeremy Camp is really good. He has his movie out this weekend in case any one wants to go out and see it. It's Called, "I Still Believe"
    Thanks Flint for mentioning the Christian Rock genre.
    It's about all I listen to anymore. I will listen to 60's, 70's music every now and then.
    To me the 70's were the last great music years. Although there were a couple of bands from the 80's I liked as well.
     

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