Christophe Lemaitre "White Lightning" 9.92 and 19.80! -- Part Two

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  1. Madara

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    Lemaitre has to chance to be with all outsider
    If he wins his semi (but i'm sure i don't) he will have a chance to have a medal. Just Alonso Edwards miss to have all prétendent at the 3rd place.
     
  2. elispeedster

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    Lemaitre wont even place in the top 3, that is if he is lucky to make the finals...maybe 5th or 6th...its a shame and shouldn't be this way, but what can you expect when he is still stuck in junior high school....
     
  3. elispeedster

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    vous ne savez rien de sprint
     
  4. RCSMAN

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    Christophe can't get a medal, it's impossible.

    To access in final, it will be very very hard

    He can run between 20.10 and 20.20.

    Unfortunately, after his injury, Christophe is 70% de his capacity.

    He couldn't run 2 weeks ago !

    Alonso Edward will run between 19.7 and 19.8
     
  5. Madara

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    Another saison fail
     
  6. trackster

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    A ponderously slow 20.34 with a tail wind in the semis. Adjusted for wind, he probably would lose to Allyson Felix now.

    I wasn't able to watch the race. If anyone finds the video, please post a link.
     
  7. elispeedster

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    LMFAO! Right Pal, 5 years and counting of excuses....LMFAO!!!! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
     
  8. elispeedster

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    Dont watch it, unless you want to vomit yesterdays dinner....but don't worry, IT SHALL COME YOU WILL SEE!
     
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    [h=1]200m Men Semi 1 IAAF World Champs 2015[/h][video=youtube;S-Mozf1nyhY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Mozf1nyhY[/video]
     
  10. trackster

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    Thanks (I guess) for the video. As someone predicted, it very nearly did make me vomit. That was actually the worst position I've ever seen him in during a 200. I mean, his starts and curves are usually poor, but this time he wasn't even on the same track. He looked like one of those runners from small countries like Fiji who run in the first-round heats and look ridiculous. The only good thing is that with about 50 meters to go (at which time the better runners were pretty much finished) he suddenly regained his long-lost instinct for running fast. It was as if desperation turned on a switch in him and he turned on the jets and ran down the slower competitors.

    To sum up:
    1) Possibly the worst first 150 meters of any 200m ever run.
    2) An aggressive finish, more like "the LeMaitre of old"--but too little, too late.
     
  11. NWsoccerfan

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    Maybe Lemaitre could do with a year off? I'm not a sprint expert but Guliyev had a couple years hiatus in there and now he's back and running his best 200 ever. You guys think time off would be bad for Lemaitre? It seems like at times he momentarily gets that form he used to have all the time but he just can't put it all together for a complete race.
     
  12. elispeedster

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    He needs a change of scenery - club, environment....and COACH!
     
  13. jacknyc

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    After today's horrendous performance, which I watched live on TV, I suspect Lemaitre is really going to be questioning and doubting himself.
    He ran terribly, and he lost to the guy from Greece. Guliyev is far beyond him now, having made the finals. Also Danny Talbot ran faster than he did. So even in an all European final, Lemaitre is no longer a medalist, but now just an also ran.

    It's just a feeling, but I think Lemaitre is going to make a big change.
    I think he will either decide to retire or change his situation altogether.
    If he was really determined, I would think he would change his coaching/training situation.
    But I think, and have always thought, that he is a bit soft. So instead of fighting on, I wouldn't be surprised if he decides to retire. I suppose he should and will run next year in the Olympics, but that will probably be it. After 5 years of no progress, I suspect he will quit.
    Just a feeling, but I don't know how he or anyone puts a positive spin on today's performance.
     
  14. elispeedster

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    I could see him retiring, only as to not offend the Great Carraz. And Carraz would approve just for the fact he rather Lemaitre fail than succeed under another coach; this is common thought amongst notorious xenophobes like he who shall not be named, starts with a R and ends with a N. And Its a shame, as it only hurts Christophe, probably one of the top 5 most naturally talented sprinters in the last 20 years, but got stuck with a idiotic, moronic, no nothing of coach who had to audacity to tell Lemaitre he could never beat Bolt etc, strive for third place, etc....Insane if you ask me....but alas, I KNOW NOTHING OF SPRINT! :bigsmile:
     
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    Jack, I don't know if "soft" is the right word. Here's a new article about him, very sensitive to who he is. Grew up with that lisp, which he still has, teased, shy. Couldn't quite participate properly in team sports then was tested in a sprint which was freakishly fast. Still can hardly bear being interviewed. He shakes with nerves. Some interviewers have apparently wondered if he's retarded, even though he excels at math.

    So, look, guys. There's more to an athlete than just muscles and tendons. For better or worse, part of the complete package is the head. Sadly Christophe wasn't blessed with a tough, resilient psychological makeup--in fact, quite the opposite. This has been his curse, and it's not something that just magically goew away. I think it may be time to consider the unthinkable: it's likely that the only reason he's made it this far is that the fatherly Carraz has delayed his retirement to help him, and that he gets to run with his good friends (and slowpokes). It's likely that for someone with Christophe's issues it takes a lot of love and coddling, and Carraz and Pesseneaux, etc understand and provide that. Could he have done better with another coach? The truth is, if Carraz had retired, Christophe might not have made it at all in another training group. It would have been great, physically, for him to train with Vicaut or some Americans, but he probably would have broken down and quit before seeing any benefits.

    Even the argument that Carraz should have been telling him he can beat Bolt. I get it, but isn't it also possible that every athlete's head isn't the same, and that Carraz knows and understands Christophe better than us? Maybe he knows that Christophe would be psychologically devastated if he assumed he could beat Bolt then lost? For all we know, he's seen the kid devastated by losses in the past.

    Anyway, worth thinking about.
     
  16. elispeedster

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    I disagree, Chrisotphe is not that weak mentally, he is just a product of a unconfident amateur coach, club and trainers, nothing more or less
     
  17. jacknyc

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    I don't see the article you are referring to.
    Anyway, I understand that Lemaitre had some shyness and related issues to overcome.
    But, it seems he hasn't overcome them.
    And really, the bottom line is, despite coddling and care, and staying in a comfortable and protected training environment, he has regressed. And continues to regress. So despite those shyness issues, something is wrong there.
    Lemaitre has immense talent, but it seems he doesn't the other requisite requirements of a champion - determination, dedication, perseverance, mental fortitude, skill (terrible technique), etc.
    Sad, but true (in my opinion).
     
  18. Izwal

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    According to last interviews of Christophe, nothing will change.
    He has only one explanation for his poor performances in these championships: his injury.

    I predict that nothing will change until Rio 2016 is over.
    After Rio 2016, who knows, maybe Carraz will retire.
     
  19. elispeedster

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    Why would he change? I mean 5 years of 'progress in training'... c'mon, Master Carraz is doing a wonderful Job. I predict a 9.75 and 19.30 in RIO for Lemaitre, IT WILL COME, YOU SHALL SEE :brushteeth:
     
  20. elispeedster

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    PS: Wait, he didnt blame the Jet Lag and the fact he had to race in multiple rounds??????? poor baby
     
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    "He looked like one of those runners from small countries like Fiji who run in the first-round heats and look ridiculous"
    YOU ARE SO STUPID AND DIRESPECTFUL TO CHRISTOPHE AND FIJI'S SPRINTER

    Respect SPORT !!! what is your PB in 200M ?
     
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  22. elispeedster

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    LOL! You are so childish! The fact is, he is right!!!!!!!....by the way, I ran 19.20 in the 200 meters after reading the New York Times Best Seller 'TRAINING WITH THE MASTER OF DISASTER' BY PIERRE CARRAZ!
     
  23. RCSMAN

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    You can READ ?

    Where is blake, where is WEIR ? BAD TRAINER ? who is their trainer ?

    OH MY GOD, it's Glenn Mills, the same trainer that Bolt.

    SPORT is more complicated that your stupid and immature comments.

    You are so ignorant.
     
  24. elispeedster

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    LOL! THEY HAVE RUN FASTER THAN LEMAITRE!! ALL YOU DO IS COMPARE APPLES TO ORANGES!
     
  25. elispeedster

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    Plus, All you do is call people Stupid and Ignorant, so classy aren't you.
    Even your own country men want Carraz's head on the guillotine for destroying a amazing talent only to to satisfy his own ego.
     

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