Brian Hartline

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  1. northwinds

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    That is one of the best examples of the Caste system that I have ever seen......everyone on this forum should use it to plant a seed with your DWF friends who constantly come back with "they play the best players don't they" BS.....un-friggin'-believable. Shouldn't the owners comments have been something more like this:

    "Brian is having a great year for us....he's leading the NFL in receiving and really helping out our rookie quarterback.....we look forward to getting him signed to a long term contract....of course, we are looking to gett Ryan Tannehill even more weapons on our offense"

    Geeeez.

    I have shown this article to several of my DWF friends who I play FF with.....all of them just read it, shook their head and walked off..
     
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  3. backrow

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    since when does he play slot? i guess if this nickname is good for one white receiver, it is good for all...

    Brian Hartline is listed on the Week 6 injury report with a quad ailment, but practiced in full on Wednesday.

    Hartline must have picked up a bruise in Sunday's win. The slot machine is in no danger of missing Week 6.
     
  4. bearclaw500

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    WOW!! Look at this article on NFL.com. I think some media types are doing key word searches on google and hitting the castefootball website!!

    Brian Hartline more than a 'deceptively fast' Dolphin

    Unless you happen to be Brian Hartline's mother, there's no way you thought the Miami Dolphins wideout would be leading the NFL in receiving entering Week 6.But that's exactly what's happened. Hartline has 514 receiving yards, one ahead of Denver's Demaryius Thomas, and is averaging 17.7 yards per catch. This is All-Pro-type production.
    Hartline has piled up that yardage with his ability to get behind defenses, exactly the type of trait the Dolphins supposedly lost at the position when they traded Brandon Marshall to the Chicago Bears.
    As it turns out, the fourth-year pro has serious speed.
    "Shhh," he recently said, via The Palm Beach Post. "Thanks for ruining it."
    You can guess where this is headed. Dolphins teammate Davone Bess was asked if Hartline's speed was overlooked because he's white.
    "Yeah, man," he said. "Definitely."
    "He can run," Bess added, echoing what Greg Jennings said about Green Bay Packers teammate Jordy Nelson last season. "That's good that they sleep on him, because come game time, he can open up on them."

    Ryan Tannehill is throwing passes to Hartline, but the now-quarterback remembers being perceived as "deceptively fast" when he was a wide receiver for Texas A&M. "I've had that label before, too," Tannehill said. "It's just kind of a stigma that comes with it."

    While an outsider might be surprised by Hartline's speed, we can't imagine opponents don't see it when they study game tape. Black or white, the guy can play

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...ively-fast-dolphin?module=HP11_headline_stack
     
  5. celticdb15

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    One of the best articles ive seen in a while.
     
  6. Quiet Speed

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    Devone Bess is without a doubt in the running for the most disingenuous statement (outside of politics) of 2012.
     
  7. Don Wassall

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    Marshall is a good receiver (when he isn't dropping the ball) who's big and runs well after the catch, but no objective observer would call him fast. Hartline would crush him in a race, yet 95% of DWFs probably think Marshall is faster.
     
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    Dolphins will use the bye week to try and figure out a way to get Hartline more work in the passing game, according to the South Florida Sun-Sentinel.

    Recommendation: Ever since Hartline's 200+ receiving yard game teams have been sending more defensive coverage his way. Now the Dolphins need to adjust to find a way to get Hartline open once again.

    (Rotowire.com)

    This is encouraging to hear. It seems very rare to hear reports of teams game-planning to get their White skill players more involved. I hope things play out well in week 8 and that the Packers would make similar statements about Jordy Nelson.
     
  9. Don Wassall

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    Through 8 games, half a season, Brian has 41/662/1, on pace for 82 receptions for 1,324 yards and 2 TDs. The yardage, if he keeps his current pace up, would be second only to Wes Welker over the past 30 or so years among White receivers. With Ryan Tannehill playing very well as a rookie and continually improving, it's very possible that Hartline can keep up his current pace. Hartline, Welker, Decker and Nelson are doing us proud this season.

    Brian's touchdown total is disappointing, but that's been the case for several seasons with the Dolphins -- few TDs for receivers and a weak red zone offense. Hopefully that can begin to turn around with the dynamic combo of Tannehill and Hartline.
     
  10. dwid

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    low td total? redzone struggles? why don't they use that magical offense that allows for cheap tds the redzone?

    In all seriousness, I think Nelson might have a few huge games to make up for his loss and beat out Hartline, both will have big numbers. I am hoping that Decker can have a 200 yard game this season but Manning spreads the ball around quite a bit. In the past Hartline would have to have big plays if he wanted more than a few tds because he didn't have many looks in the redzone, I don't think any where he was the primary receiver, with Brandon Marshall being force fed the ball a ton of times during his time there, often dropping them or not even being open, but led to a total of 9 tds his two seasons there, 6 in his 2nd season, 3 in his first. Maybe Hartline can get at least to the 6 level by the end of the season.

    His first season was his best as far as td totals with 3, then enter Marshall, 1 td reception each season, both coming early in the season, I believe one the first game of the season in the redzone, then none after that. I am thinking Marshall threw a hissy fit over that. Tannehill will get better with passing in the redzone and there will be more tds over time, since his only td this season was on a 80 yarder. Tannehill not throwing tds in general with 5, Moore with 1.

    Speaking of Brian Hartline, I was looking up his 250+ receiving yard game. All this talk about the rookie record for passing yards in a game for a rookie had me look at Tannehill's passing yards in that game, 431 (Luck just had 433), do overtime games not count? even so, something should have been mentioned about this game because Tannehill didn't acquire any of those yards in overtime. This was an effort to hide Hartline's 250+ receiving yard game. Cam Newton had 422 when he broke the record, and even looking that up, he didn't break the rookie record, he merely tied it it, Stafford had the record first, and did it on a shoulder injury.


    Edit: I see that Cam Newton broke his own record the week after with 432, so technically Ryan Tannehill was 1 yard shy of tying the record, still something more should have been said about this game.
     
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  11. Extra Point

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    Brian Hartline Scouting Report

    Positives
    Hartline isn't the fastest guy out there. He's a crafty player who runs good routes. A hard worker with limited athleticism. He's a try hard player who gives good effort. Will catch in traffic but his hands are more quick than strong.

    Negatives
    Hartline has stiff hips and doesn't have the burst to get separation. He has short arms and is not an explosive athlete. Timed speed does not correlate to being a vertical threat. Tight through his core. Limited upside. Is white.

    Hartline is best suited for the slot. Will never be a number 1. Could be a 5th or 6th receiver for a desperate team.
     
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    Did you get that from Sports Illustrated? Look at their scouting report. It's sickening.

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    [TD="class: text"] Brian Hartline
    SELECTED BY: Dolphins Round 4 (8)
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    [TD="class: grade"] SI Grade
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    [TD]Position: WR
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    [TD]Class: Junior
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    [TD]School: Ohio State
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    [TD]Conference: Big 10
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    [TD]Ht., Wt.: 6-1.5, 195
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    BIOGRAPHY: Two-year starter who posted 21/479/4 as a junior after career numbers of 52/694/6 prior year as a sophomore.
    POSITIVES: "Reliable possession receiver coming off a poor campaign. Natural pass catcher who displays excellent focus, eye/hand coordination and the ability to consistently make the difficult reception. Comes back into the clearing, extends his hand, and offers the quarterback a big target. Lays out for the difficult reception, exposes himself to the big hit, and takes a pounding but holds onto the throw."
    NEGATIVES: Possesses marginal playing speed and not beating defenders in a foot race. Average route runner with limited quickness.
    ANALYSIS: "For the most part, Hartline has been a reliable pass catcher who sacrifices his body to come away with the reception. He comes off a poor junior campaign with minimal production, and he compounded the problem by entering the draft. Hartline is a late- round choice, but he has the abilities to be a productive in the NFL as a fourth or fifth receiver."
     
  13. TBProdigy

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    Hold on, just let me get this 100% straight?

    I think I'm in disbelief, i refuse to believe this is a professionally recognized scouting organization where "Is white" is actually listed as a negative
     
  14. Extra Point

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    Scouting reports for white players are pretty much the same. They're never any good. They have limited upside. They're slow no matter how fast they run. They lack athleticism no matter what the combine results show.

    It's amazing so many DWFs don't catch on. They believe the anti-white propaganda rather than their own lying eyes.
     
  15. Extra Point

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    I made this up using things that are commonly said about white players but my parody isn't that far off the mark. Just read the actual scouting reports.

    For example, Hartline's combine results show that he is very quick yet the SI report refers to his "limited quickness."

    The anti-whites straight out lie about white athletes in order to devalue them.
     
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  16. whiteathlete33

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    I am well aware of that Extrapoint. I was asking because your scouting report was very similar to theirs. No mention that Hartline was a track star and has legit high 4.4 speed.
     
  17. Extra Point

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    In answer to your question I didn't read any scouting reports about Hartline before writing my parody. I wrote it off the top of my head.

    I based it on scouting reports on white players I've read in the past. Scouting reports on white players are pretty much the same. They're based on racist stereotypes and have no correlation with reality.

    I can write scouting reports on white players in the 2013 draft that I've never heard of and know nothing about and they will sound just like the scouting reports about these players that will be written by the scouting services.

    It's a one scouting report fits all situation. Just include references to stiff hips, lack of speed, lack of athleticism, etc. Always make the positives sound like negatives. Suggest the white player's ceiling is as a fringe player. Presto, you have a scouting report on a white player.
     
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  18. Don Wassall

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    Hartline had 74 receptions for 1,083 yards in 2012, but the Dolphins "will be in a world of trouble" if he's their number one receiver again next season. This is the same mantra the Caste hive has been writing and saying in unison all season. They were appalled that Miami didn't draft a receiver in the early rounds, and even more appalled that the team actually went with Hartline as their number one WR. And of course Hartline did far better than any of them could have imagined, but the party line about Hartline not being a number one receiver is still repeated over and over, almost without exception. Are there any other teams where this supposed need is cited relentlessly like this? Nope, just Miami for some strange reason.

    From Weenieworld:

    Impending free agent Brian Hartline said after Sunday's regular season finale loss to New England that he wants to return to the Dolphins in 2013. Hartline also "made it clear" that he's happy with the relationship he and rookie quarterback Ryan Tannehill formed. The 26-year-old receiver set career-highs in catches (74) and yards (1,083) but only found the end zone once. With Miami set to have upwards of $46 million in cap space this offseason, Hartline will be looking to pocket some of it. The Fins will be in a world of trouble if he enters as the No. 1 receiver again next year, though.
     
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    They probably think that the Lions with Calvin Johnson who only had 5 TD's are in a world of hurt too? No guess not. Why wouldn't a 1000 yd receiver be a legit No. 1? Are they supposed to draft a rookie that will automatically be the new No. 1? When did that happen last? Michael Crabtree--haha! They should just cut the BS and say "we don't think a White guy should ever be a no. 1 wide out---Miami needs to go get a black guy, any black guy, and make him the no. 1".
     
  20. Wes Woodhead

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    Yeah its beyond frustrating because Hartline is a legit #1 WR, and there is no reason whatsoever to question that other than his race. You would think that some of these drunk idiots would wake up, and get wise to the propaganda. Unfortunately Im pretty sure most just buy into whatever they are told by the "experts".
     
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    I remember the year Kevin Curtis came to the Eagles and had 1,110 receiving yards his first full season as a starter the media put him down. I think it was Chris Carter who said he' not a number 1 receiver as well. How could a guy who has decent size at 6'0 and was among the fastest players in the league not be a number 1 receiver?
     
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    Hopefully Hartline stays in Miami - establishing the rapport with Tannehill is extremely important especially for a young QB. Sure they will bring in a black WR but he could be #1 WR in name only.
     
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    If they let Hartline walk, I will seriously have issues with ever rooting for this team again. It was bad enough when they let Welker go. I'm cautiously optimistic that he will stay but wouldn't be surprised if he didn't. Our caste GM Jeff Ireland will then have put the finishing touches on destroying the Miami Dolphins.
     
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    How many black WRs have been let go after being the best WR on the team? I mean seriously has it EVER happened even once? When a black WR is good his job is secure.
     
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    Here's an article on whether the Dolphins should sign Hartline to a contract or let him test free agency. When I voted on the article's poll, 58% wanted the team to re-sign him, which is a pretty healthy majority, especially considering how hated on Brian was before this season, not just in Miami but nationally.

    According to the article, he was named a Pro Bowl alternate, which I wasn't aware of. He also finished 16th in the NFL in yardage, which is impressive. His main drawback was just the one TD scored, and few for his career so far. But that's in part because Miami has had a terrible redzone passing offense the past several seasons. Brandon Marshall also scored very little when he was with the Dolphins. But Ryan Tannehill has a lot of ability and as he improves and if the team gets a decent receiver to start outside opposite of Hartline (assuming they re-sign him), Brian should start getting his share of TDs as well as continue to put up nice yardage totals.


    Miami Dolphins Free Agents: What to do with Brian Hartline?


    http://www.thephinsider.com/2013/1/...rs-free-agents-what-to-do-with-brian-hartline
     
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    Brian Hartline is sort of a cult hero down here. Despite the massive amount of DWF's that would like nothing more than to blacken up the team, Hartline is the one consistent that everybody wants to see stick around. One thing I will say about the Miami fanbase, despite many of them being DWF's is that thugs are not popular down here. That is why Brandon Marshall and Vontae Davis were sent packing. New head coach Joe Philbin has stated that he would like to see more high character guys on his team. We can only hope that is code speak for more "white guys" But then again, we have caste whore Jeff Ireland making the picks so who knows what is going to happen with the Fins.
     

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