Was there caste-ing in boxing?

[foreverfree]

Did boxing ever had a caste system, at least at the hw level?

It's a question I put to Kulkucan but he became a "guest" before he got a chance to answer, apparently, so I put it now to the rest of you.

John

 

[Kaptain]

It exists in the fact that our media glorifies black boxers and minimizes white boxers. Also our government pays with our tax-dollars to develop young black kids in boxing. Since boxing gyms have all been in the inner city, and since the inner cities of this country have turned darker each decade, in America boxing has become an almost exculsively minority sport. Lastly, just like so many other sports, the rules of the game have become compromised as blacks have overtaken the sport in America. Dancing around, running away, and constant holding is what "boxing" means today and for some reason it is tolerated and even encouraged. So, to answer your question, I would say that the caste system exists more today then it did over fifty years ago.

 

[WHITE NOISE]

When the media uses terms to describe the Heavyweight division such as: " in trouble", " messed up" " not entertaining", " week", etc. These are words used as catch phrases, easily translated to mean there are not enough blacks holding championship belts. The heavyweight division (and others) have actually gone through a transformation after the " wall" came down and allowed European whites to get an opportunity in these areas. Our media/talking heads are beside themselves because they can not lick the protective cups of black champions now that whitey is dominating.

 

[whiteathlete33]

The Europeans get no credit whatsoever by the media. This is the most frustrating part. Klitschko has dominated for years now, avenged his losses, and he' still mocked and not considered a "real champion" by the media.

Holyfield, Tyson, and Ali are this very day made out to be gods. The fact is if Russians were allowed to box during those times Holyfield and Tyson would be on the canvas alot more. They would never have accomplished what they have. Noone will admit to this though. There is only one "greatest" as well. It's not Ali. It happens to be Marciano.

 

[Liverlips]

The biggest caste dimension was that whites were ethnically cleansed from the inner cities in the 1960s. The boxing gyms didn't come with them to the suburbs so blacks had access to all the gyms and the government and Police Atletic League funded boxing programs.

In addition, many kids get their first access to boxing programs in jail or in juvenile detention. We all know who makes up the overwhelming majority of these specimens.

Compare this to MMA gyms. There are equal numbers in the cities and the suburbs so whites and blacks compete at an equal level. We can see the results as well in the number of black v. white champions.

As usual, whites own blacks whenever there is a level playing field.

 

[white is right]

The day the music died when it came to White North American fighters was around 65'. The talent pool dried to a trickle. You had the occasional Quarry, Cooney but in general most white prospects were terrible because nobody was doing boxing anymore. Of course the stereotype of the terrible white fighter sprung up shortly there after and comedy sketches like Chris Rock's Rocky IV sketch sprung from this. The only ethnic group that still produced fighters were Italians as many of them still had blue collar values. Now that Eastern Euros/Asians have taken up boxing at the professional level the stereotype of white fighters sucking is nearly dead, but a new one has started blacks aren't boxing anymore.Edited by: white is right

 

[Blue Devils]

The common phrase now is "they" and you know who I'm talking about are not interested in Boxing anymore and that "they" are playing in the NFL or NBA. It's funny you never hear them mention the NHL or MLB which makes me believe they have some kind of racial preference when it comes to their boxing heroes. And those same people have the nerve to say castefootball is a racist site

Next time people ask how comes there's not many White American boxers tell them there all playing in the MLB and NHL