UFC CHAMPIONS ARE CLUB FIGHTERS

[Ambrose]

Something most overlook, or cannot see, is that the UFC is a private fighting club. A UFC champion is only that: a UFC champion. A UFC champion is not a "world champion" by any estimate. Fights in the club are selected by a private committee, staged privately, and judged privately. No one outside of the club has influence on who should fight whom and when and how often.

Around the world there are men who train, practice, and compete with other men in this type of fight sport. Because of the wide variety of styles, and the wide variety of ways in which a man may better another, no man may claim he is able to be the better of all the rest. All men will suffer defeat some day against another man.

The obsession and focus on UFC is peculiar to North America. It is natural that the promoters of UFC will tell anyone who will listen that their venue is the greatest and no other club contains fighters as good as theirs. But reason tells us otherwise. When have we seen a UFC champion take on a champion from another club? We see former champions of other clubs fighting in the UFC but only once they become members. When reason made from knowledge tells us that the world is varied and fighters abound, we should resist to quickly draw the conclusion that "only the best of the best" participate in the UFC. Until any UFC champion has fought all of the champions around the world, I shall not call them "world champions" or speak of them as paramount.

 

[Soccer&track]

Something most overlook, or cannot see, is that the UFC is a private fighting club. A UFC champion is only that: a UFC champion. A UFC champion is not a "world champion" by any estimate. Fights in the club are selected by a private committee, staged privately, and judged privately. No one outside of the club has influence on who should fight whom and when and how often.

Around the world there are men who train, practice, and compete with other men in this type of fight sport. Because of the wide variety of styles, and the wide variety of ways in which a man may better another, no man may claim he is able to be the better of all the rest. All men will suffer defeat some day against another man.

The obsession and focus on UFC is peculiar to North America. It is natural that the promoters of UFC will tell anyone who will listen that their venue is the greatest and no other club contains fighters as good as theirs. But reason tells us otherwise. When have we seen a UFC champion take on a champion from another club? We see former champions of other clubs fighting in the UFC but only once they become members. When reason made from knowledge tells us that the world is varied and fighters abound, we should resist to quickly draw the conclusion that "only the best of the best" participate in the UFC. Until any UFC champion has fought all of the champions around the world, I shall not call them "world champions" or speak of them as paramount.

I tend to agree with this. Boxing has champions all over, from US to Phillippines to Ukraine and so on...fighters are simply professionals and don't have to be part of any "club" to fight each other(pending their managers can work out a contract). This is what has bugged me about the UFC for the longest time. We watch the guys that Dana White and his cronies want us to see. Due to marketing an such the UFC has come to be the most "popular" organization but there is no way to tell if its the "best". Unfortunately the DWFs don't question this and continue to make the UFC millions.

 

[Liverlips]

UFC pays the most so the best fighters all want to be in the UFC.

There are no top 10 fighters outside the UFC now - though Bellator is getting close with guys like Chandler, Askren and Curran.

 

[Wes Woodhead]

One thing is for sure. Dana anti White loves his non white fighters.

 

[dwid]

this is how I feel about when the NFL says "World Champions" when a team wins the Superbowl. They only play in North America. I would love to see some European teams get better coaching and pull some of better athletes out of rugby and soccer. Look at Margus Hunt after a couple of years of getting experienced with football. All the way from Estonia. Imagine how many more. I have watched European teams compete, the coaching his horrible and the technique these players have is awful. They are very raw, like pee wee raw but grown men. If they had some real coaching up they could be much better.

Of course a coach I have talked to was coaching in Europe but feels like there is more upside in players from South America.....good luck with that. Whats the average height of most South Americans? The highest being Argentina with 5'8 1/2, well below the 5'10 and 1/2 in the USA, and I don't think he is going to Argentina. Some countries are like 5'5, 5'3. You could go through tons of them and find maybe 1 NFL prospect that would contribute. Finding Whiter South Americans would be the most ideal but I doubt that is the target group he was looking for.

but the UFC like the NFL, is not concerned about the best participating, its ENTERTAINMENT. An older football player from the 60's and 70's said this on one of those NFL segments "its not football, its ENTERTAINMENT", its not always about the best players (or fighters), its in the entertainment business.

 

[Old Scratch]

UFC pays the most so the best fighters all want to be in the UFC.

There are no top 10 fighters outside the UFC now - though Bellator is getting close with guys like Chandler, Askren and Curran.

That's not really true. The UFC pays peanuts except to the very top tier fighters unless they're lucky and get a fight night bonus. The UFC is also robbing them of sponsorship money, and the fighters on the facebook card are getting shafted hardcore with that.

All three of the of the fighters you listed are top 10 and there are others. "Official" rankings are meaningless anyway because the journalists and MMA sites kowtow the Zuffa preference. Everywhere over and over it was repeated that the best fighters were ALL in UFC even when Strikeforce existed yet the Strikeforce fighters have competed well with the UFC. So did the WEC fighters when it was considered the UFC minor leagues(155 and up). People believe that because the UFC spends a lot of money pushing that in their marketing.

 

[Hawkeye2]

The Salaries are actually better than people think. For the most part a guy on the prelims who losses might only get 12,000 but he also collects an undisclosed salary on the UFC payroll. Vinny Malaghaes was saying that while he only made 80,000 in fights his net income was close to 150,000.

 

[Old Scratch]

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