Survivor, with a racial twist...

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Some may call it exploiting racial tensions. CBS calls it darn good television.

Jeff Probst popped in on The Early Show Wednesday morning, confirming the reports that the 20 castaways for Survivor: Cook Islands will be grouped by race, with competitors divided into four tribes consisting of whites, blacks, Asians and Hispanics.


Apparently, "separate but equal" holds only the warmest of connotations for Mark Burnett.


Like a good host, Probst had nothing but praise for the producers' controversial brainchild, calling the exercise in segregation a valuable social experiment, rather than a stunt to dig up some controversy--and raise ratings.


"The idea for this actually came from the criticism that Survivor was not ethnically diverse enough, because for whatever reason, we always have a low number of minority applicants apply for the show," Probst said.


"So we set out and said, 'Let's turn this criticism into creative for the show.' And I think it fits perfectly with what Survivor does, which is, it is a social experiment. And this is adding another layer to that experiment, which is taking the show to a completely different level."


Different level, yes. Good level, still to be determined.


"If I had been a producer of this show, it is not an idea I would have come up with or given approval to," Robert Thompson, director of the Center for the Study of Popular Television at Syracuse University, told E! Online. "It's like a return back to segregated leagues in sports. The unseemly interest this will invite certainly is not worth the dramatic elements it's going to bring."


"To the less-than-open minded person, it is very easy to trash us," Burnett explained to Entertainment Weekly. "But we're smart enough to not make it negative. We're smart enough to have gotten rid of every racist person in casting."


Though more to the point, the producers haven't and can't weed out every racially sensitive person in their audience who may take offense to the seemingly archaic, and potentially socially irresponsible, division.


While the 43-year-old host admitted that the players themselves had "mixed reactions" to the racial separation, he made clear that the division was not meant to incite any controversy, add to the tension during the competition or simply be viewed as a gimmick.


"Our original idea was simply to have the most ethnically diverse group of people on TV. It wasn't until we got to casting and started noticing this theme of ethnic pride that we started thinking, 'Wow, if culture is still playing such a big part in these people's lives, that's our idea. Let's divide them based on ethnicity,' " he said.


Though not everyone is as excited about the idea as Probst and his Survivor crew.


"It sounds like a gimmick a lot of people are going to have real issues as to the taste of," Thompson said.


Referencing Burnett's previous experiments on Survivor and The Apprentice to divide teams by boys vs. girls and, more recently on the latter, by street smarts vs. book smarts, Thompson said that "these things don't often work so well in less dicey situations."


And any publicity is good publicity, right?


"As far as getting some attention, getting it talked about again, this'll do it," Thompson said. "Survivor is a great game. It's the gold standard of reality TV. But nobody seems to talk about it anymore."


Or watch it.

Survivor: Cook Islands will be the reality show's 13th installment and comes on the heels of the least watched season in the series' history. Despite garnering an Emmy nod for Best Reality Competition, Survivor: Panama--Exile Island, which split the tribes based on gender and age, averaged a franchise-low 16.8 million viewers. Hence the latest drastic measure.

CBS Entertainment president Nina Tassler told EW that while she was hesitant to give the go-ahead on the "risky idea," she finally relented, saying it was the logical next step in "a show that explores social politics."

"It's not just 18 white people," Probst told the magazine. "Suddenly you have new slang, new rituals--people doing things like making fire in ways that haven't been done on Survivor. I think we have a season where people will say you can never go back to what you were before."

It's not the first time a primetime reality show has flirted with race, though it will be the first time one follows through.

Last year, Donald Trump hinted that The Apprentice was toying with the idea of dividing his two teams by race, only to backtrack on the notion when backlash started up, saying "I personally don't like it, so it will never happen."

Survivor: Cook Islands kicks off Sept. 14. Here's a list of the competitors:


Rebecca Borman, 24, makeup artist, Laurelton, New York;
Anh-Tuan "Cao Boi" Bui, 42, nail salon manager, Christiansburg, Virginia;
Sekou Bunch, 45, jazz musician, Los Angeles;
J.P. Calderon, 30, pro volleyball player, Marina Del Rey, California;
Cristina Coria, 35, police officer, Los Angeles;
Stephannie Favor, 35, nursing student, Columbia, South Carolina;
Billy Garcia, 36, heavy metal guitarist, New York City;
Adam Gentry, 28, copier sales, San Diego;
Nathan Gonzalez, 26, retail sales, Los Angeles;
Jenny Guzon-Bae, 36, real estate agent, Lake Forest, Illinois;
Yul Kwon, 31, management consultant, San Mateo, California;
Becky Lee, 28, attorney, Washington, D.C.;
Oscar "Ozzy" Lusth, 25, waiter, Venice, California;
Cecilia Mansilla, 29, technology risk consultant, Oakland;
Sundra Oakley, 31, actress, Los Angeles;
Jonathan Penner, 44, writer/producer, Los Angeles;
Parvati Shallow, 23, boxer/waitress, Los Angeles;
Jessica Smith, 27, performance artist/rollergirl, Chico, California;
Brad Virata, 29, fashion director, Los Angeles;
Candice Wood*******, 23, premed student, Fayetteville, North Carolina.


Source: Yahoo
http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20060823/en_tv_eo/19833
 

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This is my comment from the same thread in the Media forum:

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Wow! This might be the first actual Survivor series that I will actually watch. When does it air?

Wait - I take it back.

Gut-wrenching thought: they will stack the minority teams with athletes and 'ubermensch,' and the whites with the worst of the fat, dumb, and lazy they can find, in order to (hopefully) engineer a minority victory.

I expect nothing less from the MSM.
 

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Well, I watched the first episode of "Survivor" last night. Very funny stuff. The black tribe was pathetic. They came in last at the Immunity Challenge and seemed to argue a lot through the whole show. The black guy that got voted off was by far the funniest, most pathetic loser among the black tribe. He tried taking charge of the tribe but was too inept to accomplish anything other than taking a long nap.

And when the black tribe had to pick a member from another tribe to go to exile island, the 2 men got together and made the decision. They completely ignored the black women and just discussed it themselves. I have a feeling that after the 2nd episode, the 2nd and last black guy will be voted off.

It was funny that at least one person from each of the 3 minority tribes would be cracking racial jokes. The Hispanic guy joked that his tribe would be good at paddling boats, one Asian guy kept making jokes but the Asian women kept telling him to shut up. The black women, while they were building their shelter, called it low income housing. The white tribe was predictable. They made no jokes and kept saying how race didn't matter to them and it was about the person's character and personality. The brainwashing was clearly evident.

The Hispanic tribe looked very white. They weren't small Mexicans. The one Hispanic guy was in great shape, as were the Asian and Caucasian guys.

Since the tribes were divided by race they were not balanced by gender. The Asians and Hispanics have 3 men and 2 women and the blacks and whites have 3 women and 2 men. I think this will play a big role in deciding which tribes win challenges. In the only challenge so far, the teams with 3 men and 2 women finished ahead of the others.
 

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How anyone can think a television network would allow whites to come out ahead in any competition is beyond me. I know the blacks came in last on the first show, and perhaps they may not win the thing, but there is absolutely no way the white team will be permitted to win it.

A few questions, btw, for those of you who think "Survivor" is a "real" show. First, they aren't supposed to have razors on the island, and thus we see the men with beards growing in over the course of each show. However, we never see the women with hairy legs. How does that work? Also, check out the teeth of these supposed "real" people. They are all capped and shiny white, just like all the other actors on television. None of them (or any other contestant on any of these countless "reality" shows) has teeth like average people. Even the "white trash" and ghetto folk on the wife swap-child swap-nanny type shows all have perfect, very white teeth. Check out the teeth of those you encounter every day, and tell me how "real" that is.
 

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Usually, one of the reward challenges is toiletries. Soap, shampoo, whatever else. They don't go into too much detail. Also, these people are selected from thousands that apply. So the show can pretty much get the kind of people it wants. I know one of the most popular Survivors, Ruppert, looked like a homeless guy.
 

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Its probably in the white tribes advantage that they have more women because the game is all about back stabbing the other person in the tribe. Women are just better at telling lies than men.
 

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Breaking news- The tribes on survivor have been racially integrated! I instantly started singing "we are the world"
 

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They had to mix up the tribes before there was even one more challenge. If they had kept the four tribes together for one more challenge the black tribe would have lost and the three black women would have voted off the last black male. They couldn't let that happen. So they reshuffled and now they have what they want.

First thing that happened when the tribes merged was a white girl started flirting with the one black guy. Even though her tribe has plenty of other good looking guys.
 

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I changed the channel. I wonder if ratings will be effected by all who did the same.. This also explains why it was allowed to air in the first place.Edited by: KG2422
 

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There you have it. Played like a fiddle again.


http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/09/29/D8KEIM5O0.html


All the hubbub about the "Survivor" ethnic experiment turned out to be pretty worthless.


Why? Because after only two episodes, producers merged the black, white, Asian and Latino tribes into two mixed-race gangs. No explanation was given for the quick abandonment of segregation; it seemed to pass by so quickly as to mean nothing.


"We're back to America. We're a melting pot," said Parvati, a boxer on the new Raro tribe. "I love it."
 

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GWTJ said:
They had to mix up the tribes before there was even one more challenge. If they had kept the four tribes together for one more challenge the black tribe would have lost and the three black women would have voted off the last black male. They couldn't let that happen. So they reshuffled and now they have what they want.

First thing that happened when the tribes merged was a white girl started flirting with the one black guy. Even though her tribe has plenty of other good looking guys.

wow, i can't believe they actually did this without as much as a lamest excuse, other than tribes not being balanced
 

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I think they were worried the black team was going to lose too many challenges. Then they'd have faced charges of racism or prejudice, along with the requisite boycotts of the show, with Al Sharpton and the Reverend Jesse leading picket lines outside the studios. No, better to merge them all into one tribe before something happened to spoil the outcome of the show, with *gasp* the chance that THE WHITE PEOPLE MIGHT WIN!
 

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White Shogun said:
No, better to merge them all into one tribe before something happened to spoil the outcome of the show, with *gasp* the chance that THE WHITE PEOPLE MIGHT WIN!


Yes Mr. Shogun, that is the most likely scenario. It must have become obvious the blacks were headed to the bottom of the racial barrel per usual, so the manipulators--er producers-stepped in to save face.
 
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