Longer NFL Season?

StarWars

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I agree. As a Patriots fan I saw a team win eleven games and still miss out on the playoffs, and they were hot at the end of the season. Bruises are a part of the game, and in my opinion with new pads and helmets I can personally say football is less about toughness than it used to be. Lengthening the season would show the tougher teams, such as New England, and to be honest white athletes, playing at their best. The more toughness involved, I think the more peoople would see black athletes are not what we hype them up to be.
 
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dwid said:
I have mixed opinions on this. There would be less preseason games, so fringe players (lots of White guys) will get less of a chance to show what they are a capable of if they eliminate more preseason games
To be honest, even white players who dominate preseason are rarely given a chance in the regular season. We saw it with Mike Hass recently, and countless others.
 

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TorontoArgos said:
dwid said:
I have mixed opinions on this. There would be less preseason games, so fringe players (lots of White guys) will get less of a chance to show what they are a capable of if they eliminate more preseason games
To be honest, even white players who dominate preseason are rarely given a chance in the regular season. We saw it with Mike Hass recently, and countless others.


The caste system starts way before tryouts during preseason in my opinion. It starts from the moment a highschool coach decides to put the white athlete at fullback and the black one at halfback.
 

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yeah, you have a point, that is why i have mixed opinions. Mike Hass was never given a chance in a regular game but if we never saw him playing preseason we would have never seen Mike Hass in the pros at all. It would've been much easier for the media to lie to us like "He just wasn't good enough to cut it in the pros." In reality we saw him dominate preseason so when they say he isn't good enough for the pros we know they are lying. The only thing holding him back is an opportunity to start somewhere.
 

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As the negotiations for the new Collective Bargaining Agreement are in full swing, this topic is the crux of the disagreement between the owners and the players. I personally think that 16 games are more than enough. Imagine the fan turnout for one of those 2-15 teams..... Besides that, from a Caste perspective, the elimination of the "worthless" preseason games would further blacken this already nightmare-black league as all of the UDFA and low draft pick white guys would have a much smaller opportunity to show their wares.


The players should be thrilled that they have an extremely intelligent white LB at the forefront of negotiations:


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The NFL wants to add two games to the current 16-game format for the regular season, and eliminate two of four preseason games, saying fans would prefer that and more revenue could be generated.


"To me, right now, as things stand, 18 games, the way it's being proposed, is completely unacceptable. "¦ I see more and more players get injured every season,"Â￾ Cleveland Browns linebacker Scott Fujita(notes) said Tuesday on a media conference call arranged by the union.
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"There are so many things nowâ€"with player health and safety, and the future of us and our familiesâ€"that aren't even being considered. And for us, it's disappointing,"Â￾ Fujita said. "It feels like a slap in the face."Â￾


Union spokesman George Atallah said Tuesday that 352 active players went on injured reserve at some point during this season, each missing an average of 9 1/2 games.


NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said "a few hundred"Â￾ players out of the nearly 2,600 that go through the system each seasonâ€"80 with each of 32 teams entering campâ€"go on injured reserve.


"That number would include undrafted rookies put on IR for the season and players with relatively minor injuries who then reach injury settlements with their teams and are released,"Â￾ Aiello wrote in an e-mail. "We do not know how the union calculated games lost."Â￾


Both Fujita and Baltimore Ravens cornerback Domonique Foxworth(notes), the other player participating in Tuesday's call, went on IR in 2010.


"We put our bodies on the line and produce a lot of revenue and we get five years"Â￾ of post-retirement health insurance,"Â￾ said Foxworth, who missed all season after tearing his right knee during an orientation practice the day before training camp. "And then they want to tack on two more games "¦ which is just going to multiply the injuries and the ailments that we're going to see after we go into our 40s, 50s, 60sâ€"70s, if we're lucky. "¦ We're not willing to budge on health and safety, and we'd like to gain some more ground in ways we can protect former players and current players."Â￾


Right around the time the call was beginning, the NFL announced the launch of www.NFLHealthandSafety.com, a website the league touted as "providing information on the various ways"Â￾ it's addressing those issues.


The league's lead negotiator, Jeff Pash, said last month "it is realistically an easier agreement to reach in the context of an 18-game regular season."Â￾


But Fujita said Tuesday: "The 18-game discussion is not even worth having at this point, because there's nothing on the table from their end that makes any one player consider playing 18 games."Â￾


The current CBA expires in March and the union long has said it expects NFL owners to impose a lockout, affecting the 2011 season. The NFL has not missed games because of labor problems since 1987, when the players went on strike.


Asked if he thinks a lockout is inevitable this time, Fujita replied: "It certainly looks that way to me."Â￾


Among other issues discussed on Tuesday's call:


â€" Fujita took a swipe at Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones for his comments during an interview with CBS last month. In a portion of the interview posted on the Internet, Jones is asked whether he thinks a lockout "might be disastrous for the game?"Â￾ Jones' response: "No, I do not. But I know that the sentiment is not to have a lockout."Â￾


Fujita's take: "For him to say something like that, to me, is one of the more irresponsible things I've heard through this whole process."Â￾


Fujita said he gets the sense owners might not be unified, because some want to get a deal done, while othersâ€"and he cited Jones as an exampleâ€""are fine with letting this thing run down to at least the 11th hour and try to squeeze the players into accepting a deal that's not fair to us."Â￾


â€" Atallah said the union expects a decision from a special master "sometime before the Super Bowl"Â￾ in the players' complaint that the NFL structured network TV contracts to guarantee revenue even if there's a lockoutâ€"while not maximizing revenue from other seasons when the league would have to share that income with players.


"We're arguing that those contracts were made explicitly in an effort to gain leverage over the players,"Â￾ Atallah said.


Said Fujita: "Does it sound like ‘lockout insurance'? Absolutely. Does it sound like a war chest to me? Absolutely,"Â￾ he said, adding that it seems as though the networks are "funding the lockout."Â￾


â€" Fujita and Foxworth both are against the league's desire for some sort of rookie wage scale.


"It seems like the league is asking the union to bail them out because of some of their bad decisions and draft choices,"Â￾ Fujita said. "That's not our responsibility. We weren't the ones twisting their arms when they signed guys like "¦ JaMarcus Russell(notes) to those huge contracts."Â￾


Noted Foxworth: "They pay a lot of people a lot of money to scout, so the teams who keep ending up with busts might want to do a better job of selecting scouts and general managers."Â￾
 

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I agree with FootballDad...IMO, 16 regular season games is more than enough. On a similar note, the "Yo.B.A." needs to trim their season...80+ games is overkill (IMHO).
 

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They should play every Sunday all year long. It's basically church for DWF's so why should it ever stop? Look how boring it is after the Superbowl, there's nothing until the NCAA playoffs or the NHL playoffs, it's not like regular season hockey or basketball is worth watching.
 

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I do not see any benefit to more than 16 regular season games. Many teams are in cruise-mode at the end of the season anyways. And the preseason games are absolutely essential to players trying to make a roster and for coaches to evaluate players.<div>
</div><div>If the NFL really wants extra games, add a playoff game. Make it the top 8 teams in each conference in the playoffs. That would be much better, IMO. As it is if a team is 1st or 2nd seed, they only have to win a single game to play in the CCG? And how many teams sit at 10-6 or 11-5 and miss the playoffs?</div><div>
</div><div>Seriously, adding another couple teams to the playoffs is the way to go.</div>
 
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