and will there be looting soon?

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of course not!
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flooding swamps the midwest.


<H1>Fargo, ND, officials to raise dikes as river rises</H1>
<DIV =byline><CITE =vcard>By NATE JENKINS, Associated Press Writer Nate Jenkins, Associated Press Writer </CITE>- <ABBR =recenttimedate title=2009-03-26T10:14:43-0700>31minsago</ABBR>
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FARGO, N.D. - Thousands of North Dakotans stacked sandbags around the clock to protect the state's largest city from the rising Red River, expected to reach a record level on Saturday. Across the state, Bismarck breathed easier as the Missouri River fell 2 feet, limiting the flooding.


Volunteers and Fargo officials were heeding the mayor's call Thursday to add another foot of dike protection against the rising water.


Just north of neighboring Moorhead, Minn., officials said more volunteers were needed to help a low-lying township in a desperate fight to save 500 of its 550 homes. A few homes have already flooded, Oakport Township Chairman Greg Anderson said.


Soon the rising water will leave few areas where it's possible to sandbag, Anderson warned.


In the Fargodome, where a sandbag-making operation was working furiously, public works official Bruce Grubb was struck by the variety of people helping out.


"Any time you see Bison football T-shirts and Sioux hockey T-shirts working side-by-side and smiling, we've really come together," Grubb said, referring to students from North Dakota State and its rival, the University of North Dakota.


The river was at 38.19 feet early Thursday. The National Weather Service predicted the Red River would crest at 41 feet, raising concerns about massive flooding among residents in this city of about 92,000.


Mayor Dennis Walaker described 41 feet as "uncharted territory," noting the Red's record high at Fargo was 40.1 feet in 1897. Walaker said he was still confident the city would beat the flood, but that contingency plans were needed.


City officials opened a planning meeting with a prayer, and Walaker said: "We need all the help we can get."


Officials said they would build their dikes a foot higher than planned, to 43 feet.


Several nursing homes were evacuating residents ahead of the floodwaters. Elim Care Center in Fargo planned to move about 50 residents to an empty nursing home in Steele, N.D., about 150 miles west.


Evacuations of flooded homes south of Fargo continued on Thursday morning. Cass County Sheriff Paul Laney said authorities had 11 requests for evacuations. The Coast Guard and local rescuers and emergency officials have been using airboats to evacuate flood-stranded residents.


On Wednesday, 46 people were evacuated from 15 homes in rural areas south of Fargo. A dozen more rescues were planned Thursday.


"As the river's moving north, our issues are moving north," Laney said.


On Wednesday, Police Chief Keith Ternes urged people with disabilities to consider leaving the city, saying: "If they expect us to get to them and get them out, they should give serious consideration." Hospital officials were also identifying patients that might need to be moved early.


In Bismarck, officials canceled a request for sandbaggers to protect a mobile home court in the south part of the city. But residents were warned not to let their guards down despite the lowering river.


"I am praying we're out of the woods because of the 2-foot drop, but I think we have to be prudent," said Lt. Dan Murphy, a North Dakota National Guard spokesman. "We just don't know."


The guard said tributaries feeding into the river had gone down.


Also, demolition crews blasted chunks of ice Wednesday to break up an ice jam that was causing water to back up behind it and flooded Bismarck.


Water backing up behind the dam of car-size ice blocks had forced the evacuation of about 1,700 people from low-lying areas in North Dakota's capital city of about 59,000. Fox Island, which has several dozen upscale homes, was flooded.


Crews drilled 80 holes in the ice to detonate clay-like explosives. Salt would be used to help speed the breakup and officials were considering backhoes to break up ice sheets near the river's west bank, state officials said.


Residents of low-lying subdivisions in Bismarck and neighboring Mandan had been told to evacuate.


President Barack Obama declared the entire state of North Dakota a disaster area late Tuesday in response to widespread flooding. The Minot Air Force Base was deploying two rescue helicopters to Bismarck, in case people need to be saved from floodwaters.


Mike Hall, who is in charge of the Federal Emergency Management Agency's North Dakota response to the flood, said the agency is shipping almost 20,000 meals, 4,500 blankets and hundreds of toiletry kits to the Grand Forks Air Force Base. From there, the supplies will be distributed as needed, Hall said.


More sandbagging was planned in part of Grand Forks, the city hardest hit by the 1997 Red River flood. An elaborate dike system was built after that disaster. The Red rose to 42.5 feet in Grand Forks by midday Wednesday with a crest near 52 feet projected for Monday. The record there was 54.4 feet, set in 1997.


despite this epic disaster, i've not yet heard any media outcry concerning the racism inherent in the small amount of aid being offered by FEMA. nor have i heard the various "civic leaders" Jackson, Sharpton, et al, crying out for more to be done. nor have i heard widespread media pleas for massive volunteer efforts to be shipped in to help the affected citizenry.


not coincidentally, of course, there's not been a single incident reported of looting or shooting or any other scavenger-like behavior by the residents in the affected areas. furthermore, the residents are pouring out in droves to volunteer and work to fix the problems themselves. interesting, is it not?


i wonder what the difference between flooding in North Dakota and New Orleansis?
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You are being to subtle JimmyC with that post, I can't figure out the point you are making.
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North Dakota, Idaho or Montana would be the most likely places I would relocate to if the need ever arises.
 

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The "negrowhine" is a constant presence. Let's not even talk about looting. Did you know they were shooting at the National Guard who came to rescue them?
 

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hes reffering to Katrina i believe, simliar story with that Iowa disaster i believe right?. They were shooting at helicopters in New Orleans, i know that. Stories from people in National Guard about being shot at a few of them being quoted as "I came here to help people, not fight in a war"
They have video of cops looting stores of electronics.
and then they get mad at jefferson parish police sitting on the bridge with guns threatening to shoot if anyone crossed over. They had nothing in the next parish to offer help for them. It would've been the same chaos. Nobody talks about the people from St Benard parish who suffered, lost their homes or died. Its a Whiter area and got more damage than the 9th ward did.
This is what happens when you become in a welfare state, totally dependent on the government to help you for everything. Can't help yourself to save your own life or family members, which is what happened to some.
Of course alot of decent people died because it was a disaster. But alot of those people who died at the superdome and convention center died because they were helpless, had they not been dependent on the government more wouldve survived. Not saying anybody deserved to die thoughEdited by: dwid
 
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Anyone know if there has ever been a situation when some kind disaster like this happened and white people went crazy?
 

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Fightingtowin said:
Anyone know if there has ever been a situation when some kind disaster like this happened and white people went crazy?


you're kidding, right? that's NEVER happened.
 

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i stumbled across a very well put together column comparing the epic flooding in North Dakota to the flooding of New Orleans. click here for the original article.


A Tale of Two Disasters (in Black and White): <?:NAMESPACE PREFIX = ST1 /><ST1:CITY w:st="on">New Orleans</ST1:CITY> vs. <ST1:CITY w:st="on"><ST1:pLACE w:st="on">Fargo</ST1:pLACE></ST1:CITY><?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" />
Kevin Lamb
March 31, 2009
While watching the evening news the other night and seeing the heroic efforts of Fargo, ND citizens working together to halt the rising flood waters of the Red River and contain the damage to their community, the reaction on the part of this community seemed vastly divergent from the community reaction of New Orleans during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina â€â€￾ the broadcast images of the responses to the flooding disasters that hit opposite ends of the U.S. couldn't be more different.
Recent news accounts of Fargo, ND showed countless volunteers (men, women and children) filling sand bags, working together like the intricate parts of a Swiss clock, valiantly trying to contain the flood waters of the Red River that is expected to crest at some 43 feet. Now the citizens are battling blizzard conditions that threaten the sandbag levees.
The willpower of these citizens to overcome extreme weather conditions and preserve their homes, schools and businesses showed remarkable courage not to mention a tireless work ethic.
One resident, 57-year-old Gary Lacher (quoted in today's <I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">New York Times[/I]) said,
<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">You lie down, you look at the clock, you listen for every sound, and you look at the clock again and five minutes has passed... and you start to think through it all again â€â€￾ <I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">did I do enough?[/I][/B]
The volunteerism was not lost on President Obama, who noted in his weekly radio address:
<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">In the Fargodome, thousands of people gathered not to watch a football game or a rodeo, but to fill sandbags. Volunteers filled 2.5 million of them in just five days, working against the clock, day and night, with tired arms and aching backs. Others braved freezing temperatures, gusting winds, and falling snow to build levees along the river's banks to help protect against waters that have exceeded record levels.[/B]
In this North Dakota community of about 90,000, the cooperative determination of neighbors helping one another to contain the flood waters was in vivid contrast â€â€￾ literally in black and white â€â€￾ to the listless aftermath of Hurricane Katrina that hit <ST1:CITY w:st="on"><ST1:pLACE w:st="on">New Orleans</ST1:pLACE></ST1:CITY> in 2005. National Guardsmen were deployed to maintain order and keep the locals from preying on one another.
The atmosphere conveyed in the televised images of the Fargodome reminds one of a beehive: Community residents assisting each other, filling sandbag after sandbag, to salvage their flood-threatened community. Compare this to the images of displaced "victims" befouling the Superdome while waiting for federal assistance as volunteers from around the country descended on New Orleans to help the displaced.
In <ST1:CITY w:st="on"><ST1:pLACE w:st="on">New Orleans</ST1:pLACE></ST1:CITY>, the response in the wake of Katrina included widespread looting and violence aimed at rescuers. The National Guard imposed curfews to stem violence while the "victims" complained about the lack of federal emergency assistance. The citizens of one disaster-struck community rolled up their sleeves and got to work while residents of another devastated area had to be cared for and policed. (Maryland SWAT teams were assigned to <ST1:STATE w:st="on">Maryland</ST1:STATE> firefighters who assisted in <ST1:CITY w:st="on"><ST1:pLACE w:st="on">New Orleans</ST1:pLACE></ST1:CITY> recovery operations in the weeks following Katrina to protect the lives and equipment of these volunteers.)
The challenge of rising flood waters in <ST1:CITY w:st="on">Fargo</ST1:CITY> was met with energetic assistance, care, cooperation, and fortitude to prevail and limit the damage from near-record flood levels, while the situation in <ST1:pLACE w:st="on"><ST1:CITY w:st="on">New Orleans</ST1:CITY></ST1:pLACE> was largely one of stagnation, mounting trash, looting, lethargic helpless "victims" waiting to be rescued from rooftops, and abandonment.
Here's an excellent video of Rush Limbaugh comparing the Katrina victims to the victims of flooding in Iowa and Illinois in 2008. It makes the same point we are once again seeing unfolding in Fargo: "I want to see the murders, I want to see the looting, ...I see devastation that dwarfs the devastation of what happened in New Orleans.... I don't see a bunch of people running around waving guns at helicopters, I don't see a bunch of people shooting cops ... When I look at Iowa, when I look at Illinois, I see the backbone of America ...." <A name=Fargo></A>
Although Limbaugh never once mentions race, the implicit racial comparison couldn't be more obvious. Let's make it explicit. This is a tale in black and white.
Once again, despite the deluge of negative images of whites and positive images of blacks emanating from Hollywood, media images from the real world feed into implicit stereotypes of whites as cooperative, efficient, and self-reliant. At the same time the images from Katrina and the recent police murders in Oakland continue to feed into the negative stereotypes that whites have of blacks. In particular, the public support given the the black man who murdered four white policemen will continue to reverberate with whites for a long time. Reality intrudes on the constant propaganda emanating from the liberal media.
What a difference communities and populations can make in dealing with the challenges of crisis and circumstance: constructive resolve vs. chaotic disorder.

Kevin Lamb, a freelance writer, is a former library assistant for Newsweek, managing editor of Human Events, and assistant editor of the Evans-Novak Political Report. He is the managing editor of The Social Contract.
 
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