Amerika's Future is Death

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Amerika's Future is Death

by Paul Craig Roberts

Conspiracy theories have now blossomed into what the smug presstitute media calls a “conspiracy culture.” According to the presstitutes, Americans have to find some explanation for their frustrations and failings, so Americans shift the blame to the Bilderbergers, the Rothschilds, the New World Order and so forth and so on.

Readers will not be surprised that I disagree with the presstitutes. Indeed, the conspiracy culture is the product of the presstitute media’s failure to investigate and to report truthfully. I am certain that the Western media is worse than the Soviet media was. The Soviet media devised ways for helping the public to read between the lines, whereas the Western media is so proud to be confidants of the government that they deliver the propaganda without any clues to the readers that it is propaganda.

Americans have been fed lies by “their” government and the government’s presstitute media for so long that it is not surprising that Americans increasingly believe that there is a conspiracy operating against them. Millions of Americans have been evicted from their jobs, careers, and homes while the crooks who stole from them run free and bankroll the presidential candidates. The world as millions of Americans knew it has come to an end, and no one has been held accountable. The explanation that Americans get from the media is that it is their own fault. They bought houses they shouldn’t have bought, and they didn’t train for the right jobs. It is not unreasonable for Americans to conclude that a conspiracy is operating against them.

Americans are told that “their” government cannot afford to help them because of the budget deficit and the burden on our grandchildren. But Americans see the trillions of dollars that are lavished on banksters, on wars, and on Homeland Security. Why is a police state and another attack on another Muslim country more important than keeping Americans in their jobs and in their homes?

The 11th anniversary of 9/11 is less than a month away. Will the presstitute media remind Americans that the government has spent $6 trillion of Americans’ money in out-of-pocket and already incurred future costs as the expense of invading and trying to occupy Afghanistan and Iraq, all to no effect except to enrich the managements and shareholders of the military security complex at the cost of destroying the reputation of the United States and putting Social Security and Medicare on the chopping block?

No, of course not. The spiel will be about our brave troops who are fighting and dying to make the world safe for democracy and women’s rights. Washington will wrap itself in the flag and exhort Americans to “support our troops” in the orchestrated war of the day.

Hitlery Clinton still gets on the moral high horse and rails at China and Russia, but all the world sees is hypocrisy. No one, not even Washington’s puppet governments, any longer takes Washington’s moralizing as anything more than a mask for domination by force alone. Democracy, Washington declares, comes out of the barrel of a gun.

Today moralizing is all about money, but not for the 99%. The 99% cannot find good jobs or earn anything on their savings, because the economy is run for the 1%. University graduates cannot get jobs and pay off their student loans. Retraining for the millions of Americans whose jobs were shipped offshore or filled by foreigners brought in on H1-B visas has proved to be a fraud, as there are no jobs for the retrained displaced long-term discouraged American work force. The official jobs projection by the US government is that few university graduates are needed in the work force, so the old mantra that “education is the answer” is just another lie from the Ivy League economic departments who sell the establishment’s lies for money.

Any American citizen accustomed to travel America’s “wide open spaces” prior to 9/11 must be astonished by the sudden rise of the intrusive Homeland Security, a gestapo-sounding name if there ever was one. Porno-scans and genital feel-ups have spread from airports to bus and train stations and to the public highways, despite the absence of terrorist events. No one in their right mind could possibly think that a 90-year old grandmother in a wheel chair is a terrorist whose diaper needs to be checked or that blond and blue-eyed parents would have strapped a bomb around their 5-year old daughter’s waist. No one except the gestapo Department of Homeland Security.

Even some of the gullible flag-waving patriotic conservatives are beginning to wonder about all the security. The reports that the Department of Homeland Security has ordered 750 million rounds of people-killing ammunition are puzzling even those conservatives who have been taking vicarious pleasure in the slaughter of “towelheads.”

Why does the Department of Homeland Security need enough ammunition to shoot every American 2.5 times? Why is Homeland Security equipping itself with full-body armor? Why is Homeland Security acquiring new laser technology that can “instantly know everything about you from 164 feet away?” A new army manual for “Civil Disturbance Operations” describes how the military is to be used domestically within the US to put down protests, confiscate firearms and kill citizens.

The police state that is being constructed in “freedom and democracy” America is without parallel in history. When the only terrorists are dupes organized by the FBI, it is clear that the purpose of the police state is not to protect Americans from Muslim terrorists. The purpose of the police state is to terrorize US citizens.

It is not only Homeland Security that is being militarized. The government reported that a large ammunition order was made by the National Weather Service, later updated to have been the Fisheries Office. If you are surprised at this, why has the Social Security Administration ordered 174,000 rounds of hollow-point bullets?

Lists of Homeland Security’s ammunition order are available online. Clearly, it is not ammunition for target practice. It is ammunition for killing people: hollow-point bullets for the military rifle, the M-16. Match grade bullets for .308 sniper rifles. 12 gauge shotgun buckshot and slug ammunition. Hollow-point bullets for .357 magnum and .40 caliber pistols.

As there have been no terrorist attacks in the US since the 9/11 attack (itself suspect by experts), except for those organized by the FBI, this massive purchase of firepower is obviously not to protect Americans from Muslim terrorists. So what is it for?

Perhaps this film explains what is in store for the American people who trusted “their” government. War protestors and critics of the government are being redefined as “domestic extremists” who can be arrested for aiding and abetting the enemies of the United States. If Americans wake up to the fact that they are being dispossessed economically, politically, and socially, while Washington is leading them into World War III, and take to the streets in protest, they will encounter extreme military force.

The liberal-left is even more delusional than the flag-waving conservatives. No matter what the government does, conservatives will come down on the government’s side. This is because conservatives confuse patriotism with support for the government, not with defense of the Constitution, a suspect document that coddles criminals, terrorists, and war protesters who cause America to lose wars. The liberal-left regards Obama with his half-black origin as a member of the oppressed class, personages endowed by the liberal-left with higher morality. The liberal-left continues to regard Obama as the redeemer even as Obama sits in the Oval Office approving lists of American citizens to be executed without due process of law. Not even Naomi Wolf can wake up the liberal-left.

Do not expect Congress or the presstitutes to do anything about the rapid concentration of power in the police state that Bush and Obama have created. Do not expect to be rescued by federal courts. Even if some judges are inclined to defend the Constitution from its domestic enemy, the courts are powerless if the executive branch does not respect the rule of law. Currently, the executive branch is ignoring a federal judge’s injunction against the indefinite detention of US citizens. The Department of Justice (sic) lawyers will not even answer the judge’s questions.

A gullible population is helpless if government decides to enslave the people. It is child’s play for government to discredit a people’s natural leaders and those who provide the people with accurate information. Most Americans have a very small knowledge base and very large ideological preconceptions. Consequently, they cannot tell fiction from fact.

Consider the case of Julian Assange. When the US government, angry that WikiLeaks had published leaked documents that revealed the mendacity and deceit of Washington, first struck out at Assange, support for Assange was almost universal. Then Washington put out the story on the Internet that Assange was an intelligence agent working for the CIA or the even more hateful Mossad. Both leftwing and rightwing Internet sites fell for the obvious lie. Here we have gullibility on the level with those who believed Stalin’s charge that Bukharin was a capitalist agent.

Once the libel of Assange began, it over-rode his clearance by the Swedish prosecutor’s office of sexual complaints made by the two women who seduced him. Seeing Assange on the ropes, a female prosecutor reopened the closed case, many believe at Washington’s urging. Feminists jumped in, demanding that Assange be punished for his seduction by women as he had obviously tricked or coerced them in some way.

It was like Dominique Strauss-Kahn all over again. Falsely accused of sexually assaulting a New York hotel maid, the Director of the International Monetary Fund, chased on two continents by celebrity-hunting women, was knocked out of the race for the French presidency and had to resign his IMF position. The New York police, trained by decades of feminist propaganda to regard every sex charge brought by a woman as the absolute truth, were made to look foolish and incompetent when clear evidence emerged that the charge was fabricated in order to extract money from Strauss-Kahn and possibly in order to knock him out of contention for the French presidency.

Many websites and normally reliable commentators were taken in by the false story. The Washington hegemons and their presstitute media have been even more successful in fooling Americans about terrorist attacks, Osama bin Laden, the Taliban, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Pakistan, Syria, and Iran. What is astonishing is the fact that there have not been any attacks on America, despite the enormous provocations Washington has provided by murdering as many as one million Muslims, destroying three Muslim countries, conducting military operations against seven Muslim countries and preparing an attack on an eighth–Iran.

The President of Russia, whose thermo-nuclear ballistic missiles can remove the US from the face of the earth, stated for all the world to hear that Washington has the entire world in fear of its hegemonic drive. “No one feels safe,” said Putin. And certainly not the Russians with American missile bases on their borders and a Washington-funded disloyal and traitorous political “opposition” which serves as Washington’s fifth column inside Russia.

America, Putin acknowledged, wants to rule the world. But Washington is not going to rule Russia and China. If the current White House moron keeps his promise to Israeli prime minister Netanyahu that the US will attack Iran next June if Iran does not close down its nuclear energy program (a non-weapons program permitted to Iran as a signatory of the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty), the White House will have opened the door to World War III. In such a war the US would not be immune from attack as it was in WW I and WW II. This time America could disappear in nuclear holocaust. If any of the world survives, people will be thankful for Washington’s removal from the scene.

Death is what “your” government in Washington, both Republicans and Democrats, are bringing you. Both parties are driven by the neoconservatives who believe that American hegemony over the world is worth nuclear war to accomplish. If these dangerous ideologues continue to prevail, life on earth has a very short-run prospect.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/08/20/amerikas-future-death-paul-craig-roberts/
 

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I've read a lot of Paul's articles, and this one is the best of the entire bunch...and that's saying a lot. Pure gold, every word of it. This is a must read article.

He never pulls any punches, does he? Incredible insight and clarity (and balls), especially for a man in his 70's. I never thought that 1984 and Brave New World would actually become reality, let alone on steroids, when I read them years ago. I love his portrayal of the government-loving "patriotic" conservatives with these statements:

Even some of the gullible flag-waving patriotic conservatives are beginning to wonder about all the security. The reports that the Department of Homeland Security has ordered 750 million rounds of people-killing ammunition are puzzling even those conservatives who have been taking vicarious pleasure in the slaughter of “towelheads.”

No matter what the government does, conservatives will come down on the government’s side. This is because conservatives confuse patriotism with support for the government, not with defense of the Constitution, a suspect document that coddles criminals, terrorists, and war protesters who cause America to lose wars.

Preach, Mr Roberts, Preach...

And this on the delusional left...

The liberal-left is even more delusional than the flag-waving conservatives. ... The liberal-left regards Obama with his half-black origin as a member of the oppressed class, personages endowed by the liberal-left with higher morality. The liberal-left continues to regard Obama as the redeemer even as Obama sits in the Oval Office approving lists of American citizens to be executed without due process of law.

Like I said, pure gold.

Nice to see him rebuke the feminists too.
 

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Too bad there isn't a Ron Paul-Paul Craig Roberts ticket to vote for instead of neo-con party #1 and neo-con party #2. Those two men have stayed constant in their views through the decades while "conservatives" have been successfully converted into the mindless government worshipping dupes and idiots so well described by Roberts above.
 
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Amerika's Future is Death

by Paul Craig Roberts

Conspiracy theories have now blossomed into what the smug presstitute media calls a “conspiracy culture.†According to the presstitutes, Americans have to find some explanation for their frustrations and failings, so Americans shift the blame to the Bilderbergers, the Rothschilds, the New World Order and so forth and so on.

Readers will not be surprised that I disagree with the presstitutes. Indeed, the conspiracy culture is the product of the presstitute media’s failure to investigate and to report truthfully. I am certain that the Western media is worse than the Soviet media was. The Soviet media devised ways for helping the public to read between the lines, whereas the Western media is so proud to be confidants of the government that they deliver the propaganda without any clues to the readers that it is propaganda.

Americans have been fed lies by “their†government and the government’s presstitute media for so long that it is not surprising that Americans increasingly believe that there is a conspiracy operating against them. Millions of Americans have been evicted from their jobs, careers, and homes while the crooks who stole from them run free and bankroll the presidential candidates. The world as millions of Americans knew it has come to an end, and no one has been held accountable. The explanation that Americans get from the media is that it is their own fault. They bought houses they shouldn’t have bought, and they didn’t train for the right jobs. It is not unreasonable for Americans to conclude that a conspiracy is operating against them.

Americans are told that “their†government cannot afford to help them because of the budget deficit and the burden on our grandchildren. But Americans see the trillions of dollars that are lavished on banksters, on wars, and on Homeland Security. Why is a police state and another attack on another Muslim country more important than keeping Americans in their jobs and in their homes?

The 11th anniversary of 9/11 is less than a month away. Will the presstitute media remind Americans that the government has spent $6 trillion of Americans’ money in out-of-pocket and already incurred future costs as the expense of invading and trying to occupy Afghanistan and Iraq, all to no effect except to enrich the managements and shareholders of the military security complex at the cost of destroying the reputation of the United States and putting Social Security and Medicare on the chopping block?

No, of course not. The spiel will be about our brave troops who are fighting and dying to make the world safe for democracy and women’s rights. Washington will wrap itself in the flag and exhort Americans to “support our troops†in the orchestrated war of the day.

Hitlery Clinton still gets on the moral high horse and rails at China and Russia, but all the world sees is hypocrisy. No one, not even Washington’s puppet governments, any longer takes Washington’s moralizing as anything more than a mask for domination by force alone. Democracy, Washington declares, comes out of the barrel of a gun.

Today moralizing is all about money, but not for the 99%. The 99% cannot find good jobs or earn anything on their savings, because the economy is run for the 1%. University graduates cannot get jobs and pay off their student loans. Retraining for the millions of Americans whose jobs were shipped offshore or filled by foreigners brought in on H1-B visas has proved to be a fraud, as there are no jobs for the retrained displaced long-term discouraged American work force. The official jobs projection by the US government is that few university graduates are needed in the work force, so the old mantra that “education is the answer†is just another lie from the Ivy League economic departments who sell the establishment’s lies for money.

Any American citizen accustomed to travel America’s “wide open spaces†prior to 9/11 must be astonished by the sudden rise of the intrusive Homeland Security, a gestapo-sounding name if there ever was one. Porno-scans and genital feel-ups have spread from airports to bus and train stations and to the public highways, despite the absence of terrorist events. No one in their right mind could possibly think that a 90-year old grandmother in a wheel chair is a terrorist whose diaper needs to be checked or that blond and blue-eyed parents would have strapped a bomb around their 5-year old daughter’s waist. No one except the gestapo Department of Homeland Security.

Even some of the gullible flag-waving patriotic conservatives are beginning to wonder about all the security. The reports that the Department of Homeland Security has ordered 750 million rounds of people-killing ammunition are puzzling even those conservatives who have been taking vicarious pleasure in the slaughter of “towelheads.â€

Why does the Department of Homeland Security need enough ammunition to shoot every American 2.5 times? Why is Homeland Security equipping itself with full-body armor? Why is Homeland Security acquiring new laser technology that can “instantly know everything about you from 164 feet away?†A new army manual for “Civil Disturbance Operations†describes how the military is to be used domestically within the US to put down protests, confiscate firearms and kill citizens.

The police state that is being constructed in “freedom and democracy†America is without parallel in history. When the only terrorists are dupes organized by the FBI, it is clear that the purpose of the police state is not to protect Americans from Muslim terrorists. The purpose of the police state is to terrorize US citizens.

It is not only Homeland Security that is being militarized. The government reported that a large ammunition order was made by the National Weather Service, later updated to have been the Fisheries Office. If you are surprised at this, why has the Social Security Administration ordered 174,000 rounds of hollow-point bullets?

Lists of Homeland Security’s ammunition order are available online. Clearly, it is not ammunition for target practice. It is ammunition for killing people: hollow-point bullets for the military rifle, the M-16. Match grade bullets for .308 sniper rifles. 12 gauge shotgun buckshot and slug ammunition. Hollow-point bullets for .357 magnum and .40 caliber pistols.

As there have been no terrorist attacks in the US since the 9/11 attack (itself suspect by experts), except for those organized by the FBI, this massive purchase of firepower is obviously not to protect Americans from Muslim terrorists. So what is it for?

Perhaps this film explains what is in store for the American people who trusted “their†government. War protestors and critics of the government are being redefined as “domestic extremists†who can be arrested for aiding and abetting the enemies of the United States. If Americans wake up to the fact that they are being dispossessed economically, politically, and socially, while Washington is leading them into World War III, and take to the streets in protest, they will encounter extreme military force.

The liberal-left is even more delusional than the flag-waving conservatives. No matter what the government does, conservatives will come down on the government’s side. This is because conservatives confuse patriotism with support for the government, not with defense of the Constitution, a suspect document that coddles criminals, terrorists, and war protesters who cause America to lose wars. The liberal-left regards Obama with his half-black origin as a member of the oppressed class, personages endowed by the liberal-left with higher morality. The liberal-left continues to regard Obama as the redeemer even as Obama sits in the Oval Office approving lists of American citizens to be executed without due process of law. Not even Naomi Wolf can wake up the liberal-left.

Do not expect Congress or the presstitutes to do anything about the rapid concentration of power in the police state that Bush and Obama have created. Do not expect to be rescued by federal courts. Even if some judges are inclined to defend the Constitution from its domestic enemy, the courts are powerless if the executive branch does not respect the rule of law. Currently, the executive branch is ignoring a federal judge’s injunction against the indefinite detention of US citizens. The Department of Justice (sic) lawyers will not even answer the judge’s questions.

A gullible population is helpless if government decides to enslave the people. It is child’s play for government to discredit a people’s natural leaders and those who provide the people with accurate information. Most Americans have a very small knowledge base and very large ideological preconceptions. Consequently, they cannot tell fiction from fact.

Consider the case of Julian Assange. When the US government, angry that WikiLeaks had published leaked documents that revealed the mendacity and deceit of Washington, first struck out at Assange, support for Assange was almost universal. Then Washington put out the story on the Internet that Assange was an intelligence agent working for the CIA or the even more hateful Mossad. Both leftwing and rightwing Internet sites fell for the obvious lie. Here we have gullibility on the level with those who believed Stalin’s charge that Bukharin was a capitalist agent.

Once the libel of Assange began, it over-rode his clearance by the Swedish prosecutor’s office of sexual complaints made by the two women who seduced him. Seeing Assange on the ropes, a female prosecutor reopened the closed case, many believe at Washington’s urging. Feminists jumped in, demanding that Assange be punished for his seduction by women as he had obviously tricked or coerced them in some way.

It was like Dominique Strauss-Kahn all over again. Falsely accused of sexually assaulting a New York hotel maid, the Director of the International Monetary Fund, chased on two continents by celebrity-hunting women, was knocked out of the race for the French presidency and had to resign his IMF position. The New York police, trained by decades of feminist propaganda to regard every sex charge brought by a woman as the absolute truth, were made to look foolish and incompetent when clear evidence emerged that the charge was fabricated in order to extract money from Strauss-Kahn and possibly in order to knock him out of contention for the French presidency.

Many websites and normally reliable commentators were taken in by the false story. The Washington hegemons and their presstitute media have been even more successful in fooling Americans about terrorist attacks, Osama bin Laden, the Taliban, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Pakistan, Syria, and Iran. What is astonishing is the fact that there have not been any attacks on America, despite the enormous provocations Washington has provided by murdering as many as one million Muslims, destroying three Muslim countries, conducting military operations against seven Muslim countries and preparing an attack on an eighth–Iran.

The President of Russia, whose thermo-nuclear ballistic missiles can remove the US from the face of the earth, stated for all the world to hear that Washington has the entire world in fear of its hegemonic drive. “No one feels safe,†said Putin. And certainly not the Russians with American missile bases on their borders and a Washington-funded disloyal and traitorous political “opposition†which serves as Washington’s fifth column inside Russia.

America, Putin acknowledged, wants to rule the world. But Washington is not going to rule Russia and China. If the current White House moron keeps his promise to Israeli prime minister Netanyahu that the US will attack Iran next June if Iran does not close down its nuclear energy program (a non-weapons program permitted to Iran as a signatory of the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty), the White House will have opened the door to World War III. In such a war the US would not be immune from attack as it was in WW I and WW II. This time America could disappear in nuclear holocaust. If any of the world survives, people will be thankful for Washington’s removal from the scene.

Death is what “your†government in Washington, both Republicans and Democrats, are bringing you. Both parties are driven by the neoconservatives who believe that American hegemony over the world is worth nuclear war to accomplish. If these dangerous ideologues continue to prevail, life on earth has a very short-run prospect.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/08/20/amerikas-future-death-paul-craig-roberts/

As much as I like the majority of what Paul Craig Roberts writes, his inability to see the Muslim threat for what it is (the Crusades have never stopped for them) is dismaying. Same for Ron Paul, who I also greatly admire. Just because the Muslims don't like Israel, doesn't make them "friendly". Christendom wasn't Zionist in the 11th century, if anything, Zion was Christian, but that didn't stop the Muslims from invading. Roberts and Paul are so outstanding when it comes to what is internally wrong with this country, but they are blind to the external threat.
 

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As much as I like the majority of what Paul Craig Roberts writes, his inability to see the Muslim threat for what it is (the Crusades have never stopped for them) is dismaying. Same for Ron Paul, who I also greatly admire. Just because the Muslims don't like Israel, doesn't make them "friendly". Christendom wasn't Zionist in the 11th century, if anything, Zion was Christian, but that didn't stop the Muslims from invading. Roberts and Paul are so outstanding when it comes to what is internally wrong with this country, but they are blind to the external threat.


I doubt that Paul and Roberts are "blind" to the Muslim threat, but rather are aware that Christian Zionists and DWF types have been worked into a lather since 9/11 to regard every Muslim and Arab as a terrorist, while at the same time remaining oblivious to the main reasons their country has already been conquered from within without help from any "towelheads." Anti-Arab hatred has been so successfully created by a different kind of "semite" through the media that most Americans would celebrate if the entire Arab world was nuked by Washington.

A responsible, America First government would take care of the Muslim problem by shutting off their access to the country through immigration. Iraq had no "weapons of mass destruction" and certainly no way to deliver them to the U.S. The Arab countries are so far from being a genuine threat to the U.S. that it's laughable. We need to clean up the country internally and follow our traditional foreign policy of armed neutrality and friendship toward all, and there would be no "Muslim threat."
 
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I doubt that Paul and Roberts are "blind" to the Muslim threat, but rather are aware that Christian Zionists and DWF types have been worked into a lather since 9/11 to regard every Muslim and Arab as a terrorist, while at the same time remaining oblivious to the main reasons their country has already been conquered from within without help from any "towelheads." Anti-Arab hatred has been so successfully created by a different kind of "semite" through the media that most Americans would celebrate if the entire Arab world was nuked by Washington.

A responsible, America First government would take care of the Muslim problem by shutting off their access to the country through immigration. Iraq had no "weapons of mass destruction" and certainly no way to deliver them to the U.S. The Arab countries are so far from being a genuine threat to the U.S. that it's laughable. We need to clean up the country internally and follow our traditional foreign policy of armed neutrality and friendship toward all, and there would be no "Muslim threat."

Islam has been attacking the West almost non-stop for a millennium, and wouldn't stop if every Jew in the world disappeared. Of course that might make us more able to defend ourselves culturally, but I digress. I assume Roberts and Paul understand that, and I completely agree that a responsible government would shut off the access to us. I just wish I could hear that from Ron Paul. I voted for him anyway, but I would feel better about him if he acknowledged that threat. Sometimes they almost echo the 'blame America first" mentality that characterizes the Left.

Islam makes a disaster wherever it goes via religion/culture, just like the favorite pets of the different kind of Semites make a disaster of wherever they are through their own deficiencies. It is yet another force that is rotting us from within, and the Cultural Marxists say we can't fight it because this "isn't a Christian country."
 

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Islam has been attacking the West almost non-stop for a millennium, and wouldn't stop if every Jew in the world disappeared. Of course that might make us more able to defend ourselves culturally, but I digress. I assume Roberts and Paul understand that, and I completely agree that a responsible government would shut off the access to us. I just wish I could hear that from Ron Paul. I voted for him anyway, but I would feel better about him if he acknowledged that threat. Sometimes they almost echo the 'blame America first" mentality that characterizes the Left.

Islam makes a disaster wherever it goes via religion/culture, just like the favorite pets of the different kind of Semites make a disaster of wherever they are through their own deficiencies. It is yet another force that is rotting us from within, and the Cultural Marxists say we can't fight it because this "isn't a Christian country."

the semites want us to talk about religion (christians, muslims) while we should be talking about race (arabs, whites)
that's why in my opinion every politician who talks about islam is suspect
 

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As much as I like the majority of what Paul Craig Roberts writes, his inability to see the Muslim threat for what it is (the Crusades have never stopped for them) is dismaying. Same for Ron Paul, who I also greatly admire. Just because the Muslims don't like Israel, doesn't make them "friendly". Christendom wasn't Zionist in the 11th century, if anything, Zion was Christian, but that didn't stop the Muslims from invading. Roberts and Paul are so outstanding when it comes to what is internally wrong with this country, but they are blind to the external threat.

Islam has been attacking the West almost non-stop for a millennium, and wouldn't stop if every Jew in the world disappeared. Of course that might make us more able to defend ourselves culturally, but I digress. I assume Roberts and Paul understand that, and I completely agree that a responsible government would shut off the access to us. I just wish I could hear that from Ron Paul. I voted for him anyway, but I would feel better about him if he acknowledged that threat. Sometimes they almost echo the 'blame America first" mentality that characterizes the Left.

Islam makes a disaster wherever it goes via religion/culture, just like the favorite pets of the different kind of Semites make a disaster of wherever they are through their own deficiencies. It is yet another force that is rotting us from within, and the Cultural Marxists say we can't fight it because this "isn't a Christian country."


Who invaded Lebanon, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and soon Syria, and Iran? What about Somalia? Who is droning and murdering entire wedding parties in Pakistan? Who overthrew the democratically-elected Prime Minister, Mosaddegh, of Iran, in 1954?

When was the last time an Islamic country attacked the United States? (and no, 9/11 wasn't)

Who hasn't stopped "Crusading" again?

Politically, the Muslims didn't enact the "Patriot Act", the NDAA, nor the illegal wiretapping. The Muslims aren't the ones enacting "free speech zones". The Muslims didn't enact the 16th Amendment, creating an income tax and "The F3D", nor their gestapo enforcement agency, the IRS. In short, the Muslims aren't the ones shredding our Constitution.

Culturally, the Muslims didn't support "Gay Marriage" nor Lesbian and Gay pastors in our churches. The Muslims didn't support radical feminism and the now splintered and dysfunctional American family that resulted from it, along with the one-sided anti-male "family" courts. The Muslims don't own the anti-White, anti-male media nor anti-White, anti-male Hollywood. In short, the Muslims didn't destroy traditional American culture and Christianity, the Cultural Marxists did...and most of them were White males like Olof Palme of Sweden, Tony Blair of Great Britain, Lyndon Baines Johnson of the United States, Francois Mitterand of France, etc. Or, is this the culture you are trying to defend against them?

The Cultural Marxists supported Muslims and brought them into their fold simply because they were not Christian and to try to form a united alliance of all others against the existing White male Christian Patriarchy. Anything not White, male, nor Christian had the support of the Cultural Marxists. However, this doesn't mean that the Muslims support most of the Cultural Marxist platform, including shoving feminism and "gay rights" down their throats. They are resisting and therein lies much of the conflict today between them and the West.

The West's warring conflicts with them now are both cultural and financial. Culturally, it is the matriarchical feminist West (embodied by Hillary Clint0n) vs. the Patriarchial Muslim world. Financially, it is to get rid of their autonomous financial systems and bring them under the auspices of a central bank...The F3d.
 

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Who invaded Lebanon, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and soon Syria, and Iran? What about Somalia? Who is droning and murdering entire wedding parties in Pakistan? Who overthrew the democratically-elected Prime Minister, Mosaddegh, of Iran, in 1954?

When was the last time an Islamic country attacked the United States? (and no, 9/11 wasn't)

Who hasn't stopped "Crusading" again?

Politically, the Muslims didn't enact the "Patriot Act", the NDAA, nor the illegal wiretapping. The Muslims aren't the ones enacting "free speech zones". The Muslims didn't enact the 16th Amendment, creating an income tax and "The F3D", nor their gestapo enforcement agency, the IRS. In short, the Muslims aren't the ones shredding our Constitution.

Culturally, the Muslims didn't support "Gay Marriage" nor Lesbian and Gay pastors in our churches. The Muslims didn't support radical feminism and the now splintered and dysfunctional American family that resulted from it, along with the one-sided anti-male "family" courts. The Muslims don't own the anti-White, anti-male media nor anti-White, anti-male Hollywood. In short, the Muslims didn't destroy traditional American culture and Christianity, the Cultural Marxists did...and most of them were White males like Olof Palme of Sweden, Tony Blair of Great Britain, Lyndon Baines Johnson of the United States, Francois Mitterand of France, etc. Or, is this the culture you are trying to defend against them?

The Cultural Marxists supported Muslims and brought them into their fold simply because they were not Christian and to try to form a united alliance of all others against the existing White male Christian Patriarchy. Anything not White, male, nor Christian had the support of the Cultural Marxists. However, this doesn't mean that the Muslims support most of the Cultural Marxist platform, including shoving feminism and "gay rights" down their throats. They are resisting and therein lies much of the conflict today between them and the West.

The West's warring conflicts with them now are both cultural and financial. Culturally, it is the matriarchical feminist West (embodied by Hillary Clint0n) vs. the Patriarchial Muslim world. Financially, it is to get rid of their autonomous financial systems and bring them under the auspices of a central bank...The F3d.

I've got one thing to say to completely counter your argument: USA!! USA!! USA!!

Take that you towel-head loving traitor!!

But seriously-- that was an awesome response!! Really sticks the knife into the pro-amerika point of view and then twists it. Bravo!! Not a knock against Awake in America but the propaganda war against arabs is insane. Although I would support a complete ban on them immigrating to amerika and would like to have them all shipped back to the Middle East. And I agree that they are invading Europe and this time will eventually conquer it.
 
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Who invaded Lebanon, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and soon Syria, and Iran? What about Somalia? Who is droning and murdering entire wedding parties in Pakistan? Who overthrew the democratically-elected Prime Minister, Mosaddegh, of Iran, in 1954?

When was the last time an Islamic country attacked the United States? (and no, 9/11 wasn't)

Who hasn't stopped "Crusading" again?

Politically, the Muslims didn't enact the "Patriot Act", the NDAA, nor the illegal wiretapping. The Muslims aren't the ones enacting "free speech zones". The Muslims didn't enact the 16th Amendment, creating an income tax and "The F3D", nor their gestapo enforcement agency, the IRS. In short, the Muslims aren't the ones shredding our Constitution.

Culturally, the Muslims didn't support "Gay Marriage" nor Lesbian and Gay pastors in our churches. The Muslims didn't support radical feminism and the now splintered and dysfunctional American family that resulted from it, along with the one-sided anti-male "family" courts. The Muslims don't own the anti-White, anti-male media nor anti-White, anti-male Hollywood. In short, the Muslims didn't destroy traditional American culture and Christianity, the Cultural Marxists did...and most of them were White males like Olof Palme of Sweden, Tony Blair of Great Britain, Lyndon Baines Johnson of the United States, Francois Mitterand of France, etc. Or, is this the culture you are trying to defend against them?

The Cultural Marxists supported Muslims and brought them into their fold simply because they were not Christian and to try to form a united alliance of all others against the existing White male Christian Patriarchy. Anything not White, male, nor Christian had the support of the Cultural Marxists. However, this doesn't mean that the Muslims support most of the Cultural Marxist platform, including shoving feminism and "gay rights" down their throats. They are resisting and therein lies much of the conflict today between them and the West.

The West's warring conflicts with them now are both cultural and financial. Culturally, it is the matriarchical feminist West (embodied by Hillary Clint0n) vs. the Patriarchial Muslim world. Financially, it is to get rid of their autonomous financial systems and bring them under the auspices of a central bank...The F3d.

If you are asking me to choose between Cultural Marxism and Islam, no thank you. One is the enemy from within, the other is external. They are not opposed to one another at all, as both are a rejection of Western Civilization. Both are to be resisted and defeated.

Of course Muslims invaded all of those places you named, and are still in the process of cleansing them of their original Christian populations. Also, I don't give a pass on 9/11, the U.S.S. Cole, or the first World Trade Center bombing, not to mention the Muslim tie-in to Oklahoma City, and all of the other random acts of Islam that have happened. Their religion teaches them that the entire world must be brought into subjugation. The poor poor little innocent brown people the US is bullying are a bunch of violent savages. Much like Africa, the only time those places have been halfway decent is when they have been under Western control.

They are here, more are coming here, and their "culture" is coming with them, along with their honor killings, polygamy, Sharia, buggery, mutilation of little girls; all of it. (or is this the culture you are trying to defend against the West? Sorry, but you went there first). And who enables it? The Cultural Marxists, who tell me I have to respect all of this crap, and that it is equal to Western Civilization. That's probably the only part of this we will agree on. It's hard enough to cling to our civilization against the Left, without importing their shock troops. The Cultural Marxists don't really have a positive agenda: they are simply anti-white, anti-Christian, anti-capitalist. Their feminism evaporates when Islam is the subject. Their mission isn't to conquor us, it's to make us incapable of defending ourselves. Islam will have finally overrun Europe within the next 50 years. Patriarchal or not, that is a bad thing.
 
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