White Flight

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Sad to see white's retreating from their native lands in order to make room for minorities, who expect protection, land, and helath benefits.
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<H1 id=firsting ="firsting">White flight</H1>

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White flight is the sociologic and demographic term denoting a trend wherein white people flee urban communities as the minority population increases, and move to other places like commuter towns.<SUP id=cite_ref-0 ="reference">[1]</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-1 ="reference">[2]</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-2 ="reference">[3]</SUP> Although an American coinage, "white flight"Â denotes like behavior in other countries. In many mixed-race cities in the U.S., the Brown v. Board of Education (1954) decision of the Supreme Court, ordering the de jure racial desegregation of public schools in the United States, and subsequent attempts to achieve de facto desegregation by means of forced busing, were major factors propelling white flight.<SUP id=cite_ref-3 ="reference">[4]</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-4 ="reference">[5]</SUP> However, white flight was observed during the 1950's and 1960's even in those cities (such as Detroit and Cleveland) where racial segregation of public schools was banned long before Brown.


The business practices of redlining, mortgage discrimination, and racially-restrictive covenants have been credited with accelerated white flight to the suburbs. The denying of banking and insurance and other social services or the exorbitant prices of said services increased their cost to residents in predominantly non-white suburbs and city neighborhoods.<SUP id=cite_ref-5 ="reference">[6]</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-6 ="reference">[7]</SUP>Furthermore, according to Laura Pulido, the historical processes of suburbanization and urban decentralization contribute to contemporary environmental racism.<SUP id=cite_ref-7 ="reference">[8]</SUP>
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<LI ="toclevel-1 tocsection-1">1 White flight in the United States
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<LI ="toclevel-2 tocsection-2">1.1 History
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<LI ="toclevel-3 tocsection-3">1.1.1 Blockbusting
<LI ="toclevel-3 tocsection-4">1.1.2 Urban decay</LI>[/list]
<LI ="toclevel-2 tocsection-5">1.2 Government-aided white flight
<LI ="toclevel-2 tocsection-6">1.3 Desegregation: public schools and student busing
<LI ="toclevel-2 tocsection-7">1.4 Recent decades
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<LI ="toclevel-3 tocsection-9">1.4.2 Northern California</LI>[/list]</LI>[/list]
<LI ="toclevel-1 tocsection-10">2 White flight world-wide
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<LI ="toclevel-2 tocsection-11">2.1 Australia
<LI ="toclevel-2 tocsection-12">2.2 Ireland
<LI ="toclevel-2 tocsection-13">2.3 The Netherlands
<LI ="toclevel-2 tocsection-14">2.4 New Zealand
<LI ="toclevel-2 tocsection-15">2.5 Norway
<LI ="toclevel-2 tocsection-16">2.6 South Africa
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<LI ="toclevel-1 tocsection-18">3 See also
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<H2>White flight in the United States</H2>


White flight has occurred, and occurs, in almost every large U.S. city,<SUP id=cite_ref-8 ="reference">[9]</SUP> begun consequent to the postâ€"World War II baby and economic booms. Explosive suburban population growth, and racially integrated city populations were made feasible by the building of highways and parkways bypassing non-white neighborhoods to reduce travel time between town and the country.<SUP id=cite_ref-crabgrass_9-0 ="reference">[10]</SUP>
<H3>[History]See also: Great Migration (African American)and Second Great Migration (African American)</H3>


After World War II, aided by the construction of the interstate highway system, many White Americans began fleeing large cities to new suburbs. These suburbs often had racially-restrictive housing policies. In the cities, the post-war housing shortages - resulting from the influx of rural black workers for war-effort employment combined with the massive numbers of military whites returning home from the war - aggravated pre-existing socio-economic inequalities between the two races. Those social conditions propitiated white flight from urban downtown areas to outlying suburbs and subdivisions where the post-war housing boom was already well under way. With the unprecedented influx of blacks and poor whites into the nation's cities during the war, middle-class and middle working-class whites considered these locales far preferable to the inner cities, many of whose infrastructures were already in serious decline. A practice further reinforcing unofficial segregation in states outside the old Confederate South was exclusionary covenants in title deeds and real estate neighborhood redlining<SUP id=cite_ref-10 ="reference">[11]</SUP> â€" explicit, legally sanctioned racial discrimination in real property ownership and lending practices; thus Black Americans were effectively disbarred from pursuing the American Dream of homeownership, even when they were able to afford it.<SUP id=cite_ref-crabgrass_9-1 ="reference">[10]</SUP> Suburban expansion was reserved for middle-class and working-class white people, facilitated by their increased wages incurred by the war effort and by subsequent federally-guaranteed mortgages (VA, FHA, HOLC) available only to whites to buy new houses. Blacks and other minorities were relegated to a state of permanent rentership.<SUP id=cite_ref-11 ="reference">[12]</SUP>


The roads built via the National Interstate and Defense Highways Act (1956) and its successors, built to transport suburbanites to their city jobs, much aided white flight, and proportionately reduced the city's supporting tax base, thus, consequently, beginning urban decay.<SUP id=cite_ref-12 ="reference">[13]</SUP> In some cases, such as in the Southern United States, local governments used highway road constructions to deliberately divide and isolate black neighborhoods from goods and services, often within industrial corridors. In Birmingham, Alabama, the local government used the postâ€"World War II interstate highway system to perpetuate the racial residence-boundaries the city established with a 1926 racial zoning law. Constructing interstate highways through majority-black neighborhoods eventually reduced the populations to the poorest proportion of people financially unable to leave their destroyed community.<SUP id=cite_ref-13 ="reference">[14]</SUP>
<H4>Blockbusting</H4>
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The real estate business practice of "blockbusting" was a very important means of controlling non-white migration and aiding white flight for profit. By subterfuge, real estate agents would facilitate black people buying a house in a white neighborhood; either buying the house themselves, or via a white proxy buyer, and then re-selling it over-priced to the black family. The consequent racist panic among the remaining white inhabitants (aggravated by real estate agents and the local newsmedia fear-mongering)<SUP id=cite_ref-14 ="reference">[15]</SUP>, would psychologically coerce the remaining white inhabitants, fearing devalued residential property, to quickly sell, usually at a loss â€" a self-fulfilling prophecy realized when they began selling en masse â€" thus generating great sales commissions for the agents. In turn, the real estate agents would then sell at higher-than-market prices to the incoming black families, profiting from price arbitrage and the sales commissions from both the black and white victims of such fraud. Thereby, the racial composition of a neighborhood populace often changed completely in a few years.<SUP id=cite_ref-15 ="reference">[16]</SUP>
<H4>Urban decay</H4>
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<DIV ="magnify"> Urban decay in the US: the South Bronx, New York City, was exemplar of the federal and local governments' abandonment of the cities in the 1970s and 1980s; the Spanish sign reads "FALSE PROMISES"Â, the English sign reads "BROKEN PROMISES"Â.


Urban decay is the sociological process whereby a city, or part of a city, falls into disrepair and decrepitude â€" depopulation, economic restructuring, abandoned buildings, high local unemployment, fragmented families, political disenfranchisement, crime, and a desolate, inhospitable city landscape. White flight's draining of a city's tax base is one cause.


In the 1970s and 1980s, urban decay was associated with Western cities, especially in North America and parts of Europe. In that time, major structural changes in global economies, transportation, and government policy created the economic, then social, conditions resulting in urban decay.<SUP id=cite_ref-16 ="reference">[17]</SUP> Urban decay contradicts the urban development of most of Europe and North America, in countries beyond, urban decay is manifest in the peripheral slums at the outskirts of a metropolis, while the city center and the inner city retain high real estate values and sustain a steadily increasing population.<SUP id=cite_ref-crabgrass_9-2 ="reference">[10]</SUP>


North American cities suffered white flight to the suburbs and exurb commuter towns, which <SUP id=cite_ref-crabgrass_9-3 ="reference">[10]</SUP> started to reverse in the 1990s, when the rich suburbanites returned to the city via gentrification of the decayed urban neighborhoods by over-paying for (and over-pricing) the real estate and so economically expelling the original poor inhabitants. Blight is another characteristic of urban decay â€" the visual, psychological, and physical effects of living among empty lots, and buildings and houses labelled "THIS PROPERTY IS CONDEMNED"Â. Such desolate properties are socially dangerous to the community because they attract criminals and street gangs, thus contributing to the volume of crime. Urban decay has no single cause; it results from combinations of inter-related socio-economic conditions â€" including the city's urban planning decisions, strictly-enforced rent control,<SUP style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" title=" claim needs references to reliable sources from March 2009" ="Template-Fact">[citation needed]</SUP> the poverty of the local populace, the construction of neighborhood-excluding freeway roads and rail road lines,<SUP id=cite_ref-power_17-0 ="reference">[18]</SUP> depopulation by suburbanization of peripheral lands, real estate neighborhood redlining,<SUP id=cite_ref-18 ="reference">[19]</SUP> xenophobic immigration restrictions,<SUP id=cite_ref-comeback_19-0 ="reference">[20]</SUP> and racial discrimination.
<H3>Government-aided white flight</H3>


The organization of municipal government in the U.S. facilitated white flight from racially diverse cities by establishing new municipalities beyond the abandoned city's jurisdiction to avoid the legacy costs of maintaining city infrastructures, instead spending said taxes establishing the suburban infrastructures. The federal government contributed to white flight and the early decay of non-white city neighborhoods by withholding maintenance capital mortgages, thus making it difficult for the communities to either retain or attract middle-class residents.<SUP id=cite_ref-wilson_20-0 ="reference">[21]</SUP>


The new suburban communities limited the emigration of poor and non-white residents from the city with restrictive zoning, thus few lower middle-class people could afford a house in the suburbs. In the event, many all-white suburbs were incorporated to the cities they had fled. Milwaukee, Wisconsin, partially incorporated towns such as Granville, Wisconsin; the (then) Mayor, Frank P. Zeidler complained about the societal destructive "Iron Ring" of new municipalities incorporated in the postâ€"World War II decade.<SUP id=cite_ref-21 ="reference">[22]</SUP> Analogously, semi-rural communities, such as Oak Creek, South Milwaukee, and Franklin, formally incorporated as discrete entities, to escape urban incorporation when Wisconsin state law allowed Milwaukee's incorporation of such rural and sub-urban regions, that did not qualify for discrete incorporation, per the legal incorporation standards.<SUP id=cite_ref-22 ="reference">[23]</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-23 ="reference">[24]</SUP>
<H3>Desegregation: public schools and student busing</H3>
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The postâ€"World War II racial desegregation of U.S. society â€" especially of the public schools â€" catalyzed white flight from the cities to the suburbs. In 1954, the US Supreme Court ordered the de jure termination of the "separate, but equal" legal racism established with the Plessy v. Ferguson (1896) case in the nineteenth century, thus, with the Brown v. Board of Education (1954) case, the Supreme Court ordered the racial desegregation of public schools, because the unequal funding of majority-black and majority-white public schools ensured that black people received an inferior public education despite paying taxes for it. In 1971, in the case of Swann v. Charlotte-Mecklenburg Board of Education (1971), the Supreme Court ordered the forced busing of poor black students to suburban white schools, and wealthy white students to poor schools in the city. In the case of Milliken v. Bradley (1974), the dissenting Justice William Douglas observed that "the inner core of Detroit is now rather solidly black; and the blacks, we know, in many instances are likely to be poorer. . . ." Like-wise, in 1977, the Federal decision in Penick v. The Columbus Board of Education (1977) accelerated white flight from Columbus, Ohio. The racial desegregation of schools and the racial integration of U.S. society were most opposed by white people whose children attended private schools, yet, the most vehement opponents of racial integration were white people whose children attended private, religious schools.<SUP id=cite_ref-24 ="reference">[25]</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-25 ="reference">[26]</SUP>


A secondary, non-geographic consequence, of school desegregation and busing was cultural white flight: withdrawing white children from the mixed-race public school system and matriculating them to private schools unaffected by U.S. federal integration laws. In 1970, when the United States District Court for the Central District of California ordered the Pasadena Unified School District desegregated, the white-student proportion (54%) of the schools approximately reflected the school district's proportional white populace (53%).


Once the federally-ordered school desegregation occurred, whites who could afford private schools withdrew their children from the racially diverse Pasadena public school system. In result, by 2004, Pasadena had 63 private schools educating some 33% of schoolchildren, while white students made up only 16% of the public school populace. The Pasadena Unified School District superintendent characterized public schools as "like the bogey-man"Â to whites and implemented policies meant to persuade white parents to matriculate their children to the racially diverse Pasadena public school district.<SUP id=cite_ref-26 ="reference">[27]</SUP> In the event, white flight rapidly altered the racial composition of public school systems; upon desegregation, in Baltimore, Maryland, the Clifton Park Junior High School had 2,023 white students and 34 black students; 10 years later, it had 12 white students and 2,037 black students. In northwest Baltimore, Garrison Junior High School's student body declined from 2,504 whites and 12 blacks to 297 whites and 1,263 blacks in that period.<SUP id=cite_ref-27 ="reference">[28]</SUP>
<H3>Recent decades</H3>


The New York City and Los Angeles metropolises now experience black flight consequent to the growing Hispanic and Asian populations settling in traditionally African-American communities.<SUP id=cite_ref-28 ="reference">[29]</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-29 ="reference">[30]</SUP> In 1967, the 12th Street Riot of Detroit, Michigan, contributed to white flight, leaving contemporary Detroit more than 80 percent black, and most of its suburbs, including Livonia, Dearborn, and Warren, overwhelmingly white.<SUP id=cite_ref-30 ="reference">[31]</SUP>


A unique example of white flight in the United States took place in Miami: in 1980, the Mariel Boatlift brought 150,000 Cubans to Miami, the largest such migration in U.S. civilian history<SUP style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" title=" claim needs references to reliable sources from January 2010" ="Template-Fact">[citation needed]</SUP>. During this time, many of the middle class non-Hispanic whites in the community left the city. As a consequence, while in non-Hispanic whites made up about 90% of Miami's population in 1960, by 1990 they made up only about 10%.<SUP id=cite_ref-31 ="reference">[32]</SUP>
<H4>Southern California</H4>


In Southern California, white flight from Los Angeles began before the racial Watts Riots in 1965, but the riots appear to have increased the pace of flight. Likewise, the 1992 riots spurred both black flight and white flight from the city. In California and in the rest of the western U.S., Hispanic Americans are the greatest ethnic minority; as their communities increased in size in larger cities, so increased the white flight to the suburbs. During the 1990s and early 2000s, African Americans continued migrating from the historically black communities of Inglewood and Compton, which now have mostly Latino populations, to Inland Empire, California communities such as Fontana, Rialto, Moreno Valley, Palmdale, as well as parts of Orange, and Ventura Counties.<SUP id=cite_ref-32 ="reference">[33]</SUP> (See black flight.)


In San Diego, white flight in the 1950s occurred in much of the southern parts of the city, such as South East San Diego, as residents moved to neighborhoods in the more northern part of San Diego County. As a result of this the majority of the neighborhoods south of the I-8 highway are predominantly Hispanic, African-American, or Filipino.
<H4>Northern California</H4>
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Since 1980, in the states west of Texas, San Francisco and Oakland are the only major U.S. cities whose white populations have increased. After sixty years of having been a predominantly black city, gentrification begun in the 1990s has changed the demographic composition of Oakland. Most of the Asian-American population of the San Francisco Bay Area live in San Mateo County, San Jose, Santa Clara, the East Bay, Sonoma, and Napa Valley, not the city proper. The non-white proportions â€" 20 percent black and 40 percent Latino â€" of the socially conservative capital city of Sacramento (38% white) are greater than the comparable proportions of socially liberal San Francisco.
<H2>White flight world-wide</H2>
<H3>Australia</H3>


In Australia, white flight occurred in the cities where most immigrants, usually Asian, settled, especially Sydney, from where Anglo-Celtic Australians have fled from the South-Western Sydney suburbs, because of the increased non-white populace, and have moved to peripheral metropolitan suburbs, notably Penrith, New South Wales and the northern coast of Gosfordâ€"Wyong. These white flight destination suburbs remain predominantly white (Anglo-Celtic).<SUP id=cite_ref-33 ="reference">[34]</SUP>
<H3>Ireland</H3>


Non-white immigration to Ireland at the twentieth century's end provoked white flight from Dublin to the island's interior and peripheral suburbs, which an economist described as "unprecedented white flight"Â. In 2006, the Central Statistic Office forecast that white flight would continue.<SUP id=cite_ref-34 ="reference">[35]</SUP> Also, international and Irish news media reported an emerging pattern of indigenous Irish self-segregation centered upon Gaeilge (Irish language) schools in reaction against the increased percentages of non-white and foreign immigrant pupils matriculated to Dublin schools.<SUP id=cite_ref-35 ="reference">[36]</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-36 ="reference">[37]</SUP>
<H3>The Netherlands</H3>


In recent years, and especially after the Muslim assassination of the artist Theo van Gogh, some Dutch people have left the Netherlands, emigrating to Australia, New Zealand, and Canada. Aggravating the high-population density stresses, the rise of inter-ethnic violence and crime between the indigenous Dutch people and non-white immigrants are cited as motives for white flight.<SUP id=cite_ref-37 ="reference">[38]</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-38 ="reference">[39]</SUP>
<H3>New Zealand</H3>


From the 1950s to the 1970s, white flight in areas of New Zealand was a gradual reaction to the mass urbanization of MÄÂÂori natives and Pacific island guest workers. In Auckland, white flight mostly has reversed since the 1980s, with European New Zealanders residing in neighborhoods that previously had non-white (MÄÂÂori and Pacific Islander) populaces such as Ponsonby, Grey Lynn, and Kingsland. Contemporarily, those previously non-white city neighborhoods and the CBD are amongst the most expensive, desirable real estate in Auckland and New Zealand. Similar gentrification has occurred in Wellington inner city neighborhoods of Thorndon, Newtown, and Aro Valley.<SUP style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" title=" claim needs references to reliable sources from July 2008" ="Template-Fact">[citation needed]</SUP>
<H3>Norway</H3>


White flight in Norway is the result of mass immigration, starting in the 1960s, and increasing since. By June 2009, more than 40% of Oslo schools had a majority of people of immigrant backgrounds, with some schools having up to a 97% immigrant share.<SUP id=cite_ref-39 ="reference">[40]</SUP> Schools in Oslo are increasingly divided by ethnicity, with white flights segregating cities being widespread.<SUP id=cite_ref-40 ="reference">[41]</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-41 ="reference">[42]</SUP> In the Oslo borough of Groruddalen in 2008 for instance, the ethnic Norwegian population decreased by 1.500, while the immigrant population increased by 1.600,<SUP id=cite_ref-42 ="reference">[43]</SUP> and in thirteen years, a total of 18.000 ethnic Norwegians had moved from the borough.<SUP id=cite_ref-nett15110_43-0 ="reference">[44]</SUP>


After receiving an increasing amount of attention, in January 2010, on the news program Dagsrevyen on the public Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation, a feature story was introduced as "Oslo has become a racially divided city. In some city districts the racial segregation starts already in kindergarten." During the feature, it was also said that "in the last years the brown schools have become browner, and the white schools whiter", an outspokenness which caused some minor controversy.<SUP id=cite_ref-44 ="reference">[45]</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-nett15110_43-1 ="reference">[44]</SUP>
<H3>South Africa</H3>


South African white flight, notably from the cities of Johannesburg, Pretoria, and Durban, was a reaction to the interior immigration of Black South Africans to the cities as the legal racism of apartheid ended. In the event, White South Africans fled either to the suburbs, or emigrated from racially integrated South Africa.<SUP style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" title=" claim needs references to reliable sources from December 2007" ="Template-Fact">[citation needed]</SUP>
<H3>United Kingdom</H3>


Trevor Phillips, head of the UK Commission for Equalities and Human Rights, and Mike Poulsen, an Australian academic, have claimed that White Britons and non-white Britons are becoming more segregated. However, researchers Ceri Peach, Danny Dorling, and Ludi Simpson have argued that segregation in the UK is either stable or declining.<SUP id=cite_ref-45 ="reference">[46]</SUP> Demographic data indicate trends of simultaneous ethnic minority dispersal and segregation. In the 1980s and 1990s, ethnic minority populations increased in both white-majority suburbs and towns and the inner city districts of first immigrant settlement.<SUP id=cite_ref-46 ="reference">[47]</SUP> In areas such as Newham and Brent, White Britons have become a minority, though they remain the single largest ethnic group.<SUP id=cite_ref-47 ="reference">[48]</SUP> Unlike in the United States, all major UK cities have white-majority populaces.<SUP id=cite_ref-48 ="reference">[49]</SUP> Researcher Ludi Simpson says that the growth of ethnic minorities in Britain is due mostly to natural population growth (births outnumber deaths) rather than immigration, and that both white and non-white Britons are equally likely to leave mixed-race inner-city areas. In his opinion, these trends indicate counter urbanization rather than white flight.<SUP id=cite_ref-49 ="reference">[50]</SUP>Edited by: celticdb15
 

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White flight is extremely common and I live next to the city of Passaic, NJ which is a perfect example. Around 50 years ago it used to be a mostly Polish city. It was clean and crime was very low. It's now been overrun with illegal Mexicans(probably around 25% of the total population) and a very sizeable black population as well. It's turned into the ghetto and very few Polish people have remained. It's impossible to go the Home Depot in Passaic without seeing hundreds of Mexicans standing on the street corners and in the parking lot looking for work,
 

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Try growing up in an area that has always been majority black, but where Whites and blacks used to have some protections through the workings of segregation. The majority blacks are now in power and don't care about anything except more power. Nearly all industry, decent jobs, and decent schools are gone. Most of your relatives have moved away seeking better economic opportunities. Property values are almost nothing, while property taxes increase at least every two years. There aren't many reasons to stay.
 

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Unfortunately, White flight can continue to go on for a long time because this is such a big country. As a general rule, blacks and other minorities like to live in large cities, thus the countryside is pretty much ceded to Whites, especially hilly and mountainous areas.

White flight is merely a way of postponing the inevitable as long as possible, similar to the m.o. of the Republican Party. It's an understandable strategy, buta defensive onethat doesn't address or help solve any of this country's ever worsening race problems.

And in many cases, fleeing Whites are more liberal than the Whites in the areas they move to -- Californians moving to the NW and other parts of the SW, and Massachusians to New Hampshire are great examples --and, refusing to admit or acknowledge the real reasons they fled, begin to repeat the same processes that caused them to leave in the first place.


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whiteathlete33 said:
White flight is extremely common and I live next to the city of Passaic, NJ which is a perfect example. Around 50 years ago it used to be a mostly Polish city. It was clean and crime was very low. It's now been overrun with illegal Mexicans(probably around 25% of the total population) and a very sizeable black population as well. It's turned into the ghetto and very few Polish people have remained. It's impossible to go the Home Depot in Passaic without seeing hundreds of Mexicans standing on the street corners and in the parking lot looking for work,

Yeah I am reading a book on the life of Kevin Weeks, a member of the Winter Hill gang(ran by Whitey Bulger). I found it interesting when he talked about how the busing of black studentsthat Judge Garrity thought South Bostonneeded in1974. In paraphrase Weeks commented how the decision took a once proud neighborhood and screwed it up. He also commented that the judge who made the decision lived no where near South Boston, but in a comfortable suburb. He "knew" what was best for the people of South Boston yet would never have to live through the constant fights and tension he caused. Now i'm not saying South Boston was perfect before it was integrated, by no means was it. But the liberals couldn't stand to see a a white neighborhood with such a strong sense of pride.
 

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Don Wassall said:
Unfortunately, White flight can continue to go on for a long time because this is such a big country. As a general rule, blacks and other minorities like to live in large cities, thus the countryside is pretty much ceded to Whites, especially hilly and mountainous areas.

White flight is merely a way of postponing the inevitable as long as possible, similar to the m.o. of the Republican Party. It's an understandable strategy, buta defensive onethat doesn't address or help solve any of this country's ever worsening race problems.

And in many cases, fleeing Whites are more liberal than the Whites in the areas they move to -- Californians moving to the NW and other parts of the SW, and Massachusians to New Hampshire are great examples --and, refusing to admit or acknowledge the real reasons they fled, begin to repeat the same processes that caused them to leave in the first place.


Could not have said it better.
 

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Don Wassall said:
<div>And in many cases, fleeing Whites are more liberal than the Whites in the areas they move to -- Californians moving to the NW and other parts of the SW, and Massachusians to New Hampshire are great examples -- and, refusing to admit or acknowledge the real reasons they fled, begin to repeat the same processes that caused them to leave in the first place.</div>
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EXACTLTY RIGHT!
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Don Wassall said:
And in many cases, fleeing Whites are more liberal than the Whites in the areas they move to -- Californians moving to the NW and other parts of the SW, and Massachusians to New Hampshire are great examples --and, refusing to admit or acknowledge the real reasons they fled, begin to repeat the same processes that caused them to leave in the first place.

Isn't it sad that this is so often the case? Here in New South Wales we have whites essentially evacuating various increasingly insalubrious areas of Sydney and moving either south to the Illawarra (where I reside) and the Southern Highlands or north to the Central Coast, yet they only rarely, if ever, admit to the "social"factors which precipitated their relocation. They somehow retain their pro-multicultural mentality, despite not being able to stomachthe "benefits" and "enrichment" which multiculturalism deliversat first hand - it would appear that multiculturalism seems best viewed at a distance. But before You know it, they are on the hunt for local Asian and Middle Eastern restaurants, Indiangrocery shopsandother sickening elementsof "diversity".

These are the t**sers who spout leftist platitudes andvote Labor or Green all of their lives, who witness the consequences of thesuicidal policies of the morons they vote for, move for reasons that they don't wish to admit to (especially to themselves), then spout the same platitudes and vote the same way in a new area. Mind You, the area in which I live is, unfortunately, one of the safest Labor areas in the country...
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...and becoming a dumping ground for Aboriginals and,more recently,Africans
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(what a heady mixture that is...).

Then there are the "North Shore Socialist" types, who lounge about in leafy affluent suburbs without an Aboriginal, Arab, or Islander in sight (the North Shore suburbs are, however,home to cashed up Asians as well, who no doubt provide a modicum of the requisite "safe" diversity), but who are all for immigration and accepting refugees - as long as these lovely immigrants and refugees aren't settled anywhere near their well-manicured (by the gardener, of course) lawns. Hell, that might detract from the value of the mansion, and we wouldn't want that now, would we?Such dopes live in blue-ribbon Liberalelectorates, yet the ennui of their comfortable lifestyles has allowed them to develop a "social conscience", so they vote for the communist Greens.

A small portion of one final "white flight" group deserves a special mention: the white South Africans. These people have fled a country that has become a hell-hole as a result of black "self-determination", yet some of them have photos of Mandela on their wall or on the desk at work - bloody unbelievable. They like to extol the wondrous diversity of the "rainbow nation", yet when one politely enquires as to the reason for their leaving that particular paradise, they invariably reply that the move was work-related...
 
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to quote Lyndon Johnson to Huber Humphrey (from Minnesota) "Hubert, It is easy to be for civil rights when you live in state with no black people."
 

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Tired old White said:
to quote Lyndon Johnson to Huber Humphrey (from Minnesota) "Hubert, It is easy to be for civil rights when you live in state with no black people."

Completely agree. Not to mention immigration and living in a community that reflects you shouldn't be issues that have anything to do with civil rights at all. Preserving one's identity and community should be core values of liberals and conservatives alike. This should be a softball issue but the obvious has been skewed so badly that no longer can we tell the elementary from the real issues.
 

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