dkr77
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Hey Jody, Where are the ******* chess champions? Speaking of dominant blacks in mixed martial arts, what ever happened to Kevin "grape ape" Randleman?
White_Savage
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Don't sell Randelman too short. He was an excellent athlete after all. The ******** couldn't ask for a better representative for their race in MMA fighting.
Fedor and Cro-Cop are just alot better, is all.
Fedor and Cro-Cop are just alot better, is all.
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White_Savage said:
they are.
White_Savage said:
not every sport can be the sport blacks want to dominate.
White_Savage said:
what race are hawaiians? they aren't asians. they're islanders. the only people i've met that are dumber and more violent than blacks.
White_Savage said:
i don't have "pet ********". and it does appear that you ARE going to use crap black fighters as your argument.
White_Savage said:
i see you are in serious denial. it was just yesterday that blacks were too dumb to be quarterbacks. now half the good college quarterbacks are black. division I football is at a dramatically higher level of competition than the UFC.
you're also not understanding my argument. randleman is too dumb to ever be a great fighter. but there's literally hundreds of black guys like him. lots of them are smarter than kevin randleman. smart enough to learn. i liked how randleman knocked filipovic out with a single punch and dropped emelianenko on his head. what if he had even average intelligence?
also, what if he dropped emeliankenko on his head on the street instead of in the ring? he would be DEAD.
White_Savage said:
if he tried his usual game plan against a good 200 pound boxer in the octagon he would get knocked out cold very quickly. he's not that good at punching. he's been knocked out by a wrestler. i see you agree that he would have to wrestle the boxer because he's not good at punching.
White_Savage said:
like when maurice smith beat the crap out of mark coleman? like that?
White_Savage said:
no they aren't. i've given plenty of evidence that they're not. do you have any evidence in your favor? or are you just going to let big black guys like mccoy and byers and ferguson blow your arguments to pieces?
White_Savage said:
there are none. or one if you count arlovski. he boxes for 2 hours every day when training and is obviously the best puncher the UFC has ever had. liddell is not a good boxer in any universe. everbody else is far below even liddell.
belfort could not even make the brazilian olympic boxing team. that shows you how average the boxing is in the UFC.
the only thing i agree with you is that the small gloves in the UFC change punching a lot and make it harder to cover like in boxing.Edited by: jody
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Hey Jody,
I lift in a gym that is majority black and Mexican. Actually, I'm writing this post right after coming back from there. And you know what I saw, big black men on the bench press not going over 185. I see this everyday(not even there own body weight). They just can't compete on the same level in terms of strength sports. That's actually proven in scientific studies that I have read citing differences between races. Alot of i in all has to do with whites shorter limbs and larger chest/shoulders/calves. Once again these are averages, but don't come on this site citing a few blacks who do well in MMA and powerlifting as evidence of their natural superiority in all sports. With that same logic, Whites are natural superior basketball, high jumpers, and 400 M runners. It sounds like you are the type of guy who likes to take it from a big black guy in bed. You are a weakling bowing down to accepted norms and lacking the intelligence to observe and question from a different perspective. Edited by: Alpha Male
I lift in a gym that is majority black and Mexican. Actually, I'm writing this post right after coming back from there. And you know what I saw, big black men on the bench press not going over 185. I see this everyday(not even there own body weight). They just can't compete on the same level in terms of strength sports. That's actually proven in scientific studies that I have read citing differences between races. Alot of i in all has to do with whites shorter limbs and larger chest/shoulders/calves. Once again these are averages, but don't come on this site citing a few blacks who do well in MMA and powerlifting as evidence of their natural superiority in all sports. With that same logic, Whites are natural superior basketball, high jumpers, and 400 M runners. It sounds like you are the type of guy who likes to take it from a big black guy in bed. You are a weakling bowing down to accepted norms and lacking the intelligence to observe and question from a different perspective. Edited by: Alpha Male
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White_Savage said:
no. but he wasn't a dominant champion either. and, he was the champion when boxing was at it's lowest point in decades.
he didn't outbox everybody. he barely defended his title. how many times did he defend it? let's be honest.
also, how do you get hurt FOUR times training for ONE fight? that's simply unheard of. maybe there is something to that thread about injury prone white players.
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i have refuted every point anybody here ever made here about wrestling and strength sports.
blacks are STRONGER AND BETTER AT WRESTLING. they just don't care that much about strength sports or wrestling.
you probably don't even know the names of the 4 men who have bench pressed 700 pounds without a bench press shirt so i will list them here so you can google them.
scot mendelson
larry allen
james henderson
bill gillespie
nobody else has benched that much without a bench press shirt, even the hundred white powerlifters over 300 pounds.
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Scott Mendelson, a White man, holds the raw bench press record by a margin approximately as signifigant as the gap between the fastest 100 meters for a ******* versus the fastest White man. 713 to 711 lbs for Henderson, if I recall. And the bench press is a very specialized event, at that. Larry Allen's supposed 700 lbs was bullsh*t...the spotters were helping him lift. So much for that. While we're on the subject of NFL players, it's no secret at the NFL scouting combine that the black athletes generally have the fastest 40 times but the Whites generally lift more. So you've two White men to one black man who've managed your little feat in one specific event which most strength competitors don't specialize in, and the over all winner is a White man.
And what is the ratio of Whites-to-Blacks who've busted 650 on the bench press anyway Jody? Strikingly similar but inverse of, the number of white faces you see in the 100 meter Olympic sprints.
(BTW-tell the folks why you specified raw bench press just to get your second-place first-looser Henderson into the conversation. Are you saying ******** are just too dumb to figure out this "complicated" piece of technology called a bench shirt that prevents injury when doing extreme lifts, or are you just embarassed by the fact that Whites hold the record for the big lifts?)
Anyway, let me get this straight...
You're saying that in a world where blacks males do virtually nothing else but play various sports, where they are encouraged to compete in every sport they can and Whites are told to pack it in, being slightly competitive with Whites, Latins, and Asians in MMA and strength sports means they are actually better? If anything, it's big White guys who don't try at sports since *gasp* Whites are actually willing and able to do other things, since they realize that betting on a living in sports is just plain stupid.
Second place is still first looser jody...
BTW, you do realize it's completely biomechanically impossible for one race to have a set of traits that would make them the best at say, both running and lifting?
Wait, of course, you don't realize anything, I lost you at "biomechanical", no doubt. Well consider this: Why do East Africans rule at distance running, and nothing else? What, West Africans don't care about distance running but East Africans do?
Also, where were all your big mean ******** in various citys who could beat Vitali anyway? Too busy living on government cheese when they could be millionaires? Were they all asleep that half-decade?
I KNOW this question won't be answered, but why exactly is "blacks are better at every sport and whites suck" just "stating the facts" but pointing out how truly unpleasant ******** are "racist blather?"
You know what jody? You better hope most White people don't believe your arguments. White people already knows ******** are typically as violent and mindless as rabid dogs. Convince us Whites that all of you have the strength of bears as well, and the only solution would be to treat you like any other dangerous predator-the boat back to Africa at best, the bullet at worst. Though the bullet might be a mercy, considering the state of African life. I don't see ******* habitat area being established in YellowStone park like the one for the grizzlys, so best mind your p's and q's.
And what is the ratio of Whites-to-Blacks who've busted 650 on the bench press anyway Jody? Strikingly similar but inverse of, the number of white faces you see in the 100 meter Olympic sprints.
(BTW-tell the folks why you specified raw bench press just to get your second-place first-looser Henderson into the conversation. Are you saying ******** are just too dumb to figure out this "complicated" piece of technology called a bench shirt that prevents injury when doing extreme lifts, or are you just embarassed by the fact that Whites hold the record for the big lifts?)
Anyway, let me get this straight...
You're saying that in a world where blacks males do virtually nothing else but play various sports, where they are encouraged to compete in every sport they can and Whites are told to pack it in, being slightly competitive with Whites, Latins, and Asians in MMA and strength sports means they are actually better? If anything, it's big White guys who don't try at sports since *gasp* Whites are actually willing and able to do other things, since they realize that betting on a living in sports is just plain stupid.
Second place is still first looser jody...
BTW, you do realize it's completely biomechanically impossible for one race to have a set of traits that would make them the best at say, both running and lifting?
Wait, of course, you don't realize anything, I lost you at "biomechanical", no doubt. Well consider this: Why do East Africans rule at distance running, and nothing else? What, West Africans don't care about distance running but East Africans do?
Also, where were all your big mean ******** in various citys who could beat Vitali anyway? Too busy living on government cheese when they could be millionaires? Were they all asleep that half-decade?
I KNOW this question won't be answered, but why exactly is "blacks are better at every sport and whites suck" just "stating the facts" but pointing out how truly unpleasant ******** are "racist blather?"
You know what jody? You better hope most White people don't believe your arguments. White people already knows ******** are typically as violent and mindless as rabid dogs. Convince us Whites that all of you have the strength of bears as well, and the only solution would be to treat you like any other dangerous predator-the boat back to Africa at best, the bullet at worst. Though the bullet might be a mercy, considering the state of African life. I don't see ******* habitat area being established in YellowStone park like the one for the grizzlys, so best mind your p's and q's.
Alpha Male
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"nobody else has benched that much without a bench press shirt, even the hundred white powerlifters over 300 pounds. "
You contradict yourself bc in an earlier thread you listed to white males who did. Also, WHITES are stonger than blacks on average, but don't get upset, its only on average. The blacks that actually have made it to the world's strongest man competetion place last every time. NO black placed in Olympic powerlifting and the world's top ten bench pressers are all white. The only decent black bench presser is an obese black man (i forget his name) and he only has to move the bar 4 inches from his chest. Why do you come to this site to assert black domination in sports which are obviously white dominated? You have nothing else better to do? Also, you mention that there is not enough blacks to compete in every sport. Yes, but they also are pushed into sports by their parents at a rate 7 times that of whites and their parents. This information was from an article posted on www.blackathlete.com (from a study conducted at Northwestern University, If i recall correctly). You would probably be more welcome at that site anyway, but maybe not.
Edited by: Alpha Male
You contradict yourself bc in an earlier thread you listed to white males who did. Also, WHITES are stonger than blacks on average, but don't get upset, its only on average. The blacks that actually have made it to the world's strongest man competetion place last every time. NO black placed in Olympic powerlifting and the world's top ten bench pressers are all white. The only decent black bench presser is an obese black man (i forget his name) and he only has to move the bar 4 inches from his chest. Why do you come to this site to assert black domination in sports which are obviously white dominated? You have nothing else better to do? Also, you mention that there is not enough blacks to compete in every sport. Yes, but they also are pushed into sports by their parents at a rate 7 times that of whites and their parents. This information was from an article posted on www.blackathlete.com (from a study conducted at Northwestern University, If i recall correctly). You would probably be more welcome at that site anyway, but maybe not.
Edited by: Alpha Male
jody said:
People gravitate towards the sports that they're best at. So maybe it's not that blacks don't "care" about MMA, but rather that they don't have the same aptitude for this particular sport like they do for sprinting and basketball.
jody said:
So you think that blacks would dominate every sport if they wanted to. Is this correct? If so, then why are you here? Do you seriously think that whites are discriminated against, or are you just here for a laugh? Be honest.
jody said:
There are black kickboxers, boxers, and wrestlers, and many of them don't get paid very well. So what's stopping them from being MMA fighters?
jody said:
Exactly. You're just here for a laugh. And to annoy people. (You're doing an exceptional job, by the way.)
jody said:
And what about other sports? What about football? Aren't there thousands of athletic whites who would excel in that sport, if they weren't denied opportunities at every turn? At least the blacks are choosing not to participate in MMA. There are many whites who want to play football, and are good enough, who are slotted right out of the sport, or out of their position, by creeps who think like Bobby Bowden, Fischer Deberry, and... you.
jody said:
There's little money in boxing, basketball and football for thousands of blacks who don't make it to the "big time."
jody said:
I thought mestizos were dominating much of boxing? And the money is not good for many boxers.
jody said:
Then how do you explain these results?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics_2004/wrestling/resu lts/default.stm
jody said:
Not if white athletes are constantly stereotyped and denied scholarships, playing time, and starting jobs by DI coaches. But apparently you don't believe that.
jody said:
Tell that to Vernon White and Randleman.
jody said:
What's your fixation with this Coleman guy? Who cares? I saw the fight last night where Fedor easily submitted Coleman.
jody said:
His body fell apart. It happens. Edited by: JD074
Mark Henry was an overhyped slob who in the Olympics never came close to getting a medal-The Russians laughed at him. There has not been a successful black wieghtlifter since Johnny Davis 60 years ago before Paul Anderson and Doug Hepburn came along and made him look sick. Anthony Clark was a joke who had one good lift the Bench Press, he never would have even made the final heat in the World's Strongest Man Contest[which no black has ever won!!].White European men are by far the Strongest men on the planet-black Africans among the weakest. Those are facts. Blacks also have the smallest brains. Which is why Kenya don't have the standard of living of Sweden!! I doubt any black man that ever lived could whip Ken Shamrock!!!
On fightnews.com they called Chuck Liddell and Randy Couture the two GREASTEST fighters in UFC!! Brad Gillingham is the top Powerlifter in the World!!! The World Strongest Man Winners have names like Pudzianoski, Virastyuk, Karlsen and Magnusson!! All Are White!! Since Culpepper is out and Brad Johnson is in The Vikings are winning!!Lithuania and Italy beat the nightmare team in basketball.Team Africa takes last and Team Russia first in the World Boxing Championships!!Wlad beats Samuel Peter the great black hype!The next sports movie to be made is "Black men can't skate" about hockey!!
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Blacks dominate MMA? Yeah, sure
Rampage - One of the maybe four good Blacks in MMA, though he will never be champ.
Randelman - Since 2003 he is 2-8! He has even lost to Nakamura and Waterman in that time. Been KO'ed by Liddell.
Bob Sapp - The only time he wins is when he fights nobodys. His last six wins were against guys with a combined record of 8-30! He was beaten by Nog, someone he outweighs by over 100 pounds! Pathetic. Sapp is a joke.
Loiseau - Good, but will never be champ. A fight with Franklin is probablly next for him, he won't win.
Kevin Jordan - An absolute joke. His two UFC fights have sucked, first he tapped due to a one armed choke that wasn't even fully sunk, shows that he has no heart. His last fight was the worst fight I have seen, and he still got KO'ed, by someone who has never KO'ed or TKO'ed anyone before.
John Dixon - His record of 14-20 speaks for itself, including a loss to the nobody mentioned above.
Gilbert Yvel - Biggest A-Hole in MMA, bites opponents, gouges eyes, punches refs. 2-3-1 in his last six fights, those 2 wins over other blacks by the way.
Gideon Ray - Average fighter, stays in the small shows because he can't make it in the big ones.
Gassaway - Like Ray, average at best. In 2005 he's 1-2-1. He was pounded on in his last fight against Diego Sanchez.
Anderson Silva - Good, doubtful that he'll ever be champ.
Yves Edwards - He finishes up the 4 good black MMA fighters, along with Loiseau, Silva, Rampage. Lost his last fight, against Joachim Hansen.
Carlos Newton - 12-10 overall. In his last five fights he is 1-4. Matt Hughes beat him twice.
Pete Spratt - 2-3 in his last 5 fights. Will never be in a big show or win against even an average opponent again.
Rashad Evans - Has yet to prove himself against top competion. He doesn't finish fights. Imes had only been training for less than a year and still almost beat him. He will be murdered if he stays at HW. At LHW, he'll just be beaten severely.
Vernon White - 23-27-2 overall. A joke. Been brutally beaten by Chuck Liddell.
Charles Bennett - 0-2-1 in last 3 figths. Only beats nobodys. The only good fighter he has ever beaten is Maeda.
Carlos Barreto - 1-4 in last 5 fights.
So much for your Black domination. Also, where are all the black HWs? Not a single Black HW worth anything.
Now, compare the above list to this one...
Fedor Emelinanenko, Alexsander Emelinanenko, Cro Cop, Arlovski, Kharitonov, Mir, Barnett, Hughes, St. Pierre, Sherk, Joe Riggs, Evan Tanner, Joachim Hansen, Liddell, Couture, Franklin, Lindland, Horn, Prangley, Quarry, Griffin, Bonnar, Joe Doerkson, Travis Wiuff, Drew Fickett, Edwin Dewees, Jason Black ... this list could go on forever.
Rampage - One of the maybe four good Blacks in MMA, though he will never be champ.
Randelman - Since 2003 he is 2-8! He has even lost to Nakamura and Waterman in that time. Been KO'ed by Liddell.
Bob Sapp - The only time he wins is when he fights nobodys. His last six wins were against guys with a combined record of 8-30! He was beaten by Nog, someone he outweighs by over 100 pounds! Pathetic. Sapp is a joke.
Loiseau - Good, but will never be champ. A fight with Franklin is probablly next for him, he won't win.
Kevin Jordan - An absolute joke. His two UFC fights have sucked, first he tapped due to a one armed choke that wasn't even fully sunk, shows that he has no heart. His last fight was the worst fight I have seen, and he still got KO'ed, by someone who has never KO'ed or TKO'ed anyone before.
John Dixon - His record of 14-20 speaks for itself, including a loss to the nobody mentioned above.
Gilbert Yvel - Biggest A-Hole in MMA, bites opponents, gouges eyes, punches refs. 2-3-1 in his last six fights, those 2 wins over other blacks by the way.
Gideon Ray - Average fighter, stays in the small shows because he can't make it in the big ones.
Gassaway - Like Ray, average at best. In 2005 he's 1-2-1. He was pounded on in his last fight against Diego Sanchez.
Anderson Silva - Good, doubtful that he'll ever be champ.
Yves Edwards - He finishes up the 4 good black MMA fighters, along with Loiseau, Silva, Rampage. Lost his last fight, against Joachim Hansen.
Carlos Newton - 12-10 overall. In his last five fights he is 1-4. Matt Hughes beat him twice.
Pete Spratt - 2-3 in his last 5 fights. Will never be in a big show or win against even an average opponent again.
Rashad Evans - Has yet to prove himself against top competion. He doesn't finish fights. Imes had only been training for less than a year and still almost beat him. He will be murdered if he stays at HW. At LHW, he'll just be beaten severely.
Vernon White - 23-27-2 overall. A joke. Been brutally beaten by Chuck Liddell.
Charles Bennett - 0-2-1 in last 3 figths. Only beats nobodys. The only good fighter he has ever beaten is Maeda.
Carlos Barreto - 1-4 in last 5 fights.
So much for your Black domination. Also, where are all the black HWs? Not a single Black HW worth anything.
Now, compare the above list to this one...
Fedor Emelinanenko, Alexsander Emelinanenko, Cro Cop, Arlovski, Kharitonov, Mir, Barnett, Hughes, St. Pierre, Sherk, Joe Riggs, Evan Tanner, Joachim Hansen, Liddell, Couture, Franklin, Lindland, Horn, Prangley, Quarry, Griffin, Bonnar, Joe Doerkson, Travis Wiuff, Drew Fickett, Edwin Dewees, Jason Black ... this list could go on forever.
Jody,your argument that Blacks dont dominate MMA because they are dispersed amonst other sports can easily be dispelled.Brazil has a huge Black population,the biggest outside of Africa,Blacks are significantly poorer than their American counterparts with less opportunity to make money from sport.MMA in Brazil alongside soccerare the biggest sports practiced by all sections of the community Black and White yet despite this White Brazilian men dominate their Black foes on the MMA circuits out their and produce all the international stars who go on to Pride and the UFC.Fighters such as Marco Ruas,the Gracie family,SILVA,Nog.As for loudmouthed Rampage Jackson he was badly beaten in his last fight by Maurico Rua a devastating white Brazilian puncher and subsequently knocked out.Brazil alongside the US and Russia is a powerhouse at producing powerful white MMA fighters literally all of Portugues and European descent who nearly always get the better of their Black foes. Edited by: Iron
dkr77
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K-1 is loaded with blacks and their champions make less money than MMA contestants.It seems to me many blacks believe they are the second coming of ali or sugar raywith their striking skillsand are lost when it comes down to a physical chess match like MMA. The "brothas" frequently try and turn a boxing match into a track meet and that strategy does not bode well for MMA competition. Jody, it just kills you that we recognize that, does'nt it?
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white savage:
the difference between mendelson and henderson is 0.2% but the difference between woronin and powell is 2.0%. you're wrong if you think 0.2% is similar to 2.0%. a difference of 2.0% is what prevents white sprinters from appearing in the final of the 100 meters. this is something you're very familiar with i'm sure.
please link to a video of larry allen being helped by his spotters to bench 700 pounds. also please link to a video of bill gillespie benching 700 pounds without a bench press shirt. you never heard of bill gillespie until i mentioned him. now you're sure he can bench 700 pounds without a bench press shirt. interesting racial double standard you have.
they don't test peak strength at the NFL combine so that argument does not work. there's also no way to control for how much strength training a player did in college. also, if white players are stronger than black players, and there are more white lineman than black linemen in the NFL, then why is larry allen the strongest player in the NFL? unless you don't think larry allen is the strongest player in the NFL.
hundreds of men of all races train to bench press as much as they can so don't bother trying to argue that nobody trains on the bench press. and nobody cares how many men have bench pressed 650 pounds just like nobody cares how many men have run under 11 seconds in the 100 meters. this argument is about peak strength. however i do want you to list or link to every man that has benched 650 pounds without a bench press shirt. i want to see your evidence.
i picked the bench press because it's a simple comparison. everybody knows bench press and has done it. few people ever do olympic lifting or strongman. pretending that you don't know what bench press shirts are really used for only makes you look dishonest. we both know mendelson is significantly stronger than rychlak.
it's completely possible for one group to be both the fastest sprinters and the strongest lifters. you think you know a lot about science but you don't. you can't show any reason why black men can generate the highest peak power but not the highest peak force. you don't know much about physics. i anticipate you'll make some stupid argument about leverage.
west africans can't run at world class speed past 1500 meters because they have too much muscle. this is the same thing that makes them stronger than white men.
vitali already lost to lewis and was afraid to fight rahman. we covered this.
please link to where i said "blacks are better at every sport and whites suck". you have shown no ability to link to evidence of any kind. this is your chance.
the difference between mendelson and henderson is 0.2% but the difference between woronin and powell is 2.0%. you're wrong if you think 0.2% is similar to 2.0%. a difference of 2.0% is what prevents white sprinters from appearing in the final of the 100 meters. this is something you're very familiar with i'm sure.
please link to a video of larry allen being helped by his spotters to bench 700 pounds. also please link to a video of bill gillespie benching 700 pounds without a bench press shirt. you never heard of bill gillespie until i mentioned him. now you're sure he can bench 700 pounds without a bench press shirt. interesting racial double standard you have.
they don't test peak strength at the NFL combine so that argument does not work. there's also no way to control for how much strength training a player did in college. also, if white players are stronger than black players, and there are more white lineman than black linemen in the NFL, then why is larry allen the strongest player in the NFL? unless you don't think larry allen is the strongest player in the NFL.
hundreds of men of all races train to bench press as much as they can so don't bother trying to argue that nobody trains on the bench press. and nobody cares how many men have bench pressed 650 pounds just like nobody cares how many men have run under 11 seconds in the 100 meters. this argument is about peak strength. however i do want you to list or link to every man that has benched 650 pounds without a bench press shirt. i want to see your evidence.
i picked the bench press because it's a simple comparison. everybody knows bench press and has done it. few people ever do olympic lifting or strongman. pretending that you don't know what bench press shirts are really used for only makes you look dishonest. we both know mendelson is significantly stronger than rychlak.
it's completely possible for one group to be both the fastest sprinters and the strongest lifters. you think you know a lot about science but you don't. you can't show any reason why black men can generate the highest peak power but not the highest peak force. you don't know much about physics. i anticipate you'll make some stupid argument about leverage.
west africans can't run at world class speed past 1500 meters because they have too much muscle. this is the same thing that makes them stronger than white men.
vitali already lost to lewis and was afraid to fight rahman. we covered this.
please link to where i said "blacks are better at every sport and whites suck". you have shown no ability to link to evidence of any kind. this is your chance.
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alpha male:
i never contradicted myself. i said that out of the hundreds of white men who powerlift, only 2 have ever benched 700 without a bench press shirt. few black men powerlift yet 2 of them have also benched 700 without a bench press shirt.
whites are not stronger than blacks on average. blacks are stronger than whites on average. the average black has higher testosterone and more muscle. this is a fact.
blacks have not finished last in every strongman competition. you're either a liar or you don't know what you're talking about.
blacks are not interested in olympic lifting. few people of any race are interested in olympic lifting. unless you think white americans don't medal in olympic lifting because they are weak. are white americans weak?
most bench pressers only move the bar 4 inches. 90% of white bench pressers only move the bar 4 inches.
do you believe whites dominate hockey because they are genetically superior at hockey? or because blacks aren't interested. just answer the question. then we will have insight into your opinion on strength sports.
i never contradicted myself. i said that out of the hundreds of white men who powerlift, only 2 have ever benched 700 without a bench press shirt. few black men powerlift yet 2 of them have also benched 700 without a bench press shirt.
whites are not stronger than blacks on average. blacks are stronger than whites on average. the average black has higher testosterone and more muscle. this is a fact.
blacks have not finished last in every strongman competition. you're either a liar or you don't know what you're talking about.
blacks are not interested in olympic lifting. few people of any race are interested in olympic lifting. unless you think white americans don't medal in olympic lifting because they are weak. are white americans weak?
most bench pressers only move the bar 4 inches. 90% of white bench pressers only move the bar 4 inches.
do you believe whites dominate hockey because they are genetically superior at hockey? or because blacks aren't interested. just answer the question. then we will have insight into your opinion on strength sports.
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there are a few sports blacks could not dominate even if they wanted. however, powerlifting and wrestling are not among them.
there is nothing stopping blacks from entering the UFC. they are entering the UFC as you can see.
i won't comment on discrimination in football here. that is what the football forum is for.
mestizos don't dominate boxing. they are competitive because of weight classes. boxing and wrestling are unusual that way. they let men who would normally just get their butts kicked fight other small guys instead.
www.fightnews.com/rankings2.htm
feel free to use images.google.com. you'll notice that even at 200 pounds they are not competitive.
your own link to the BBC did not work. it was page not found. but i assume you were trying to link to olympic wrestling results. what does that prove? i told you, blacks are generally not interested in wrestling. even so, byers was the world champion in 2002.
chuck liddell is not good at punching. he would easily lose in the UFC to any 200 pound boxer in the top 30 if he used his normal gameplan.
as for coleman, i was simply answering white savage.
there are a few sports blacks could not dominate even if they wanted. however, powerlifting and wrestling are not among them.
there is nothing stopping blacks from entering the UFC. they are entering the UFC as you can see.
i won't comment on discrimination in football here. that is what the football forum is for.
mestizos don't dominate boxing. they are competitive because of weight classes. boxing and wrestling are unusual that way. they let men who would normally just get their butts kicked fight other small guys instead.
www.fightnews.com/rankings2.htm
feel free to use images.google.com. you'll notice that even at 200 pounds they are not competitive.
your own link to the BBC did not work. it was page not found. but i assume you were trying to link to olympic wrestling results. what does that prove? i told you, blacks are generally not interested in wrestling. even so, byers was the world champion in 2002.
chuck liddell is not good at punching. he would easily lose in the UFC to any 200 pound boxer in the top 30 if he used his normal gameplan.
as for coleman, i was simply answering white savage.
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mark henry is a lazy slob who never won a medal in olympic powerlifting. that is true. yet he embarrassed every white man at the 2002 arnold strongman. true to form, he barely trained for it. i encourage you to read this link to see how much stronger he is than anybody in world's strongest man. they specifically made this event to test peak strength, and invitied the very strongest men they could find.
http://www.arnoldsstrongestman.com/2002.htm
henry destroyed every white man there. kazmeier believes henry is the strongest man alive. one thing is for sure, he's much stronger than pudzianowski. i mean, garry frank is stronger than pudzianowski, so that's not hard to accomplish.
there have been several good black strongmen and powerlifters in the last 20 years. perhaps if you google you can even find them. it's nice that brad gillingham is the top powerlifter in the world. unfortunately, blacks don't care much about powerlifting. which is the point here.
arlovski could knock out both liddell and couture. so i guess they're not the greatest fighters in the UFC.
and now for a funny quote:
"White European men are by far the Strongest men on the planet-black Africans among the weakest. Those are facts."
that is comedy gold!
mark henry is a lazy slob who never won a medal in olympic powerlifting. that is true. yet he embarrassed every white man at the 2002 arnold strongman. true to form, he barely trained for it. i encourage you to read this link to see how much stronger he is than anybody in world's strongest man. they specifically made this event to test peak strength, and invitied the very strongest men they could find.
http://www.arnoldsstrongestman.com/2002.htm
henry destroyed every white man there. kazmeier believes henry is the strongest man alive. one thing is for sure, he's much stronger than pudzianowski. i mean, garry frank is stronger than pudzianowski, so that's not hard to accomplish.
there have been several good black strongmen and powerlifters in the last 20 years. perhaps if you google you can even find them. it's nice that brad gillingham is the top powerlifter in the world. unfortunately, blacks don't care much about powerlifting. which is the point here.
arlovski could knock out both liddell and couture. so i guess they're not the greatest fighters in the UFC.
and now for a funny quote:
"White European men are by far the Strongest men on the planet-black Africans among the weakest. Those are facts."
that is comedy gold!
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panzer:
nobody said blacks dominate the UFC. where did you read that?
nobody said blacks dominate the UFC. where did you read that?
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you've made the only good counterargument in this entire thread. the black population in brazil is very big. they dominate soccer. i have no evidence as to how popular jiujitsu is in brazil. if you can provide a link you could help your argument. i don't believe jiujitsu is more popular than other major sports in brazil. show us the evidence.
also, you're wrong about "white brazilians". silva is definitely not white for instance.
you've made the only good counterargument in this entire thread. the black population in brazil is very big. they dominate soccer. i have no evidence as to how popular jiujitsu is in brazil. if you can provide a link you could help your argument. i don't believe jiujitsu is more popular than other major sports in brazil. show us the evidence.
also, you're wrong about "white brazilians". silva is definitely not white for instance.
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k-1 champions make more than ufc champions. if you have a link to the contrary you need to show it.
k-1 champions make more than ufc champions. if you have a link to the contrary you need to show it.
Jody, I've read your posts quietly for some time now and all I can get out of them is that blacks aren't interested in sports that whites dominate. That's flat-out a pathetic arguement especially when you use it for every single sport.
Answer me this, why would any race that is so physically dominate in every way NEVER in the history of history dominate other races on the battlefield or anywhere else? What is it that they are missing? What part of their overall characteristics makes them the inferior race in the history of the world? Just answer me that. That's all I want. Were they not interested in being free from the rule of other races? Lack of interest in their own destiny? Poor equipment? Were the gods racists? What?Edited by: Kaptain Poop
Answer me this, why would any race that is so physically dominate in every way NEVER in the history of history dominate other races on the battlefield or anywhere else? What is it that they are missing? What part of their overall characteristics makes them the inferior race in the history of the world? Just answer me that. That's all I want. Were they not interested in being free from the rule of other races? Lack of interest in their own destiny? Poor equipment? Were the gods racists? What?Edited by: Kaptain Poop
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Seven posts in a row?
Don't they call that 'machine-gunning' in message board lingo?
Slow weekend, huh, jody.
Don't they call that 'machine-gunning' in message board lingo?
Slow weekend, huh, jody.
Mark Henry went to the Olympics and never got a medal[TWICE}. Henry is LAZY. No he is not Stronger then the World's Strongest Man Contest winners, if he was he would enter and Win instead of sitting on his fat booty. Arlovski is White and he may be the BEST in the UFC!! Name me some black strongmen! NONE have ever Won the WSM Contest. White European men ARE stronger then black Africans-Check the Weightlifting Medals!! The black men in Africa can't get enough to eat to live much less get big and strong like the European men!!!To think black men are stong is comedy Gold!!
jody said:
Male white sprinters. Nesterenko won Olympic gold.
jody said:
Yes, we have covered this. He tore his ACL.
jody said:
Boooooring.
jody said:
Then they should work a little harder to dominate those sports. They did have a lot of success in last season's NCAA wrestling championship. But they fell flat in the '04 Olympics.
jody said:
Then why aren't they dominating?
jody said:
Can there even be discrimination against white players if they're as inferior to blacks as you say they are?
jody said:
I said "much of boxing." Perhaps I should've said the lower weight classes. Whatever. But it's pretty clear that blacks are not all that dominant in boxing right now. They're doing pretty well, but they're not dominant like they are in the NBA or the NFL.
jody said:
So what? That's an inherent part of the sport. Besides, the smaller guys are oftentimes funner to watch than the big guys.
jody said:
You mean, like Mayweather?
jody said:
There's a space between the "u" and "l" in "results." I tried to edit and delete the space but I couldn't for some reason. The link works if you delete the space.
jody said:
It proves that black wrestlers did not do well in the '04 Olympics.
jody said:
I know you told me, you say the same things over and over again. "Not interested" is not a good enough argument. We're not convinced. This is our site. You have to give us something more than "not interested." Not good enough.
jody said:
You say that again, so I'll respond again: Tell that to Vernon White and Randleman.
jody said:
He's not a boxer. He's an MMA fighter. He doesn't have to fight boxers.
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