Not so TUF

[White_Savage]

Yeah, I watched this on Monday night. They could have just kept showing old bouts as far as I'm concerned.

You've a mouthy ******* named Melvin of course. He'll get his ass handed to him soon enough. I respect the black HW Rashad for at least telling his brutha to rein it in some.

Then you got one White guy who inexplicably quits for no reason, because the cameras and the whole scene freaked him out. Yeah, it's freaky being on reality T.V. bro, but this is your shot, and you knew what the %$@%#%$@%$ing deal was when you signed on. Some other poor jerk blows his knee. Sad, but it happens.

Worst of all, however, is this welterweight fighter named Kennny who gets picked to go, uses his option to fight for staying. Has to loose 20 lbs to make weight though, gets within 5 lbs, and then decides he can't take the sauna anymore.

Jeez...is THIS what's wrong with White athletes in this country?

Now I'm not saying I could kick this kid's ass. But I tell you what, I've worked shoveling asphalt in the heat, vomited the water out of my guts, and gone back to work-for $7 an hour. With a shot at being a pro UFC fighter, with Rich Franklin and MATT FREAKIN' HUGHES bending over backwards to help me out, yeah, I THINK I could have stood a little while longer in the hot-house. Kenny, you made ME sick along with you.

Long story short, the audience didn't get to see a fight, which they should every episode if you're going to have a freakin' show about MMA.

Almost forgot, there's one guy alway talking about Chi and Internal energy, I was thinking, he's either playing games or he's a real fruitcake. But he outlasted everybody on the wall sit, I dunno, he may still be a nut but the kids got something going for him. Respect to him as well.Edited by: White_Savage

 

[White Shogun]

Savage, the first season started out the same way. If I remember right we didn't see a fight til episode three, although they began having contests (I think) in the second episode.

Personally, I enjoyed the first season but thought there was too much drama between the athletes. I felt that these guys would / should take this opportunity waaaaaaay more seriously. I also thought we'd get to see more of the training and less of the in-house antics.

I should say some of the guys should have taken it more seriously.. but then again look at Chuck, he strikes me as a serious party animal. He always announces what night club will host the after party at the end of his fights.

 

[White Shogun]

SPOILER ALERT </font>

Last night's TUF show was much better than the first. One contest, one weigh in, and - one fight. Thats the way all the shows should go.

And the fight was a damn good one. The contest winning team called out the black welterweight immediately. And it was almost - almost - a mistake.

Both of the fighters were in great shape, and apparently pretty damn skilled, too. Despite my earlier reservations, these two guy looked better trained and prepared than most of the guys on the first show.

There were guillotines, kicks to the head, great takedowns and slams a la Matt Hughes, some ground n' pound. It was a great fight.

Ultimately, the white fighter Josh Burkman defeated Melvin Guillard by decision.

Melvin apparently broke his hand during the fight. He threw a punch that Burkman caught on his elbow. Melvin did continue to fight on, however, much to his credit.

Judging by the previews, Burkman was also injured in the fight and will be unable to continue on the show.

 

[White_Savage]

Melvin apparently broke his hand during the fight. He threw a punch that Burkman caught on his elbow.

Accidentally or deliberately? This is actually taught as a technique in some martial arts.

Of course, if anyone starts using it regularly to good effect, expect it to be banned.

 

[White Shogun]

Pentjak silat, I believe?

I've had it happen in sparring, both to me and against my opponent, and it hurts like hell, lol.

But I couldn't tell if it was on purpose. No way to tell. Melvin was throwing punches and Burkman just covered the side of his face with his glove, elbow pointed outward naturally from this position. I think it was just a natural block or cover against the punch.

Give me your take on the fight once you catch the replay, Savage.

 

[JD074]

Thanks for the info, guys. I've actually missed the show so far this season. So how many black guys are left?

 

[White Shogun]

So how many black guys are left?

One. A heavyweight.

One white fighter is out due to injury.

One white fighter is out because he couldn't make weight. He was 20 lbs. over, the day of the weigh in. (And this guy came in as a welterweight???) He cut enough weight to get down to 175 lbs, which is five over the limit. Then he quit.

One white fighter quit because.. well... uh, being in front of cameras caused him 'anxiety.'
WTF??
HEY, MORON! ITS A REALITY TV SHOW.

And in all liklihood, as mentioned earlier, Burkman will be out due to injuries sustained in his fight with Guillard.

I hate to say it, but despite his mouth Guillard made a better showing than the guys who quit. Dare I say it?

He was in great shape and very athletic. At one point Burkman had him from behind and Guillard did a flip, bringing his feet over his head to escape the hold. It looked pretty funny and amazing at the same time.

Still lost though.

 

[White_Savage]

I hate to say it, but despite his mouth Guillard made a better showing than the guys who quit.

Yes, and I once beat "Fat Albert" in a sprint, however, on average...

 

[White_Savage]

The Fight: Yeah, it was good, even though it went to the judges. I thought Josh Burkman was a little too over-awed by Melvin's striking game, making him too cautious, you could possibly say the same thing about Melvin's desire to not be taken down. For all the talk about how "quick and athletic" Guillard was (of course!!!), Josh Burkman doesn't look slow. He's basically a wrestler still, when he hones his striking skills, watch out!

How much each man's injuries had to do with it is anyone's guess. Guillard, of course, showed good defensive ground-fighting skills, though I think if he lets anyone get his back twice in the big show it'll probably be lights out for him. Over all, I would like to have seen the man of my race triumph in a more decisive manner, but I guess I'll have to wait until Melvin shows up at the real UFC for that. W is a W in any case.

Melvin's sky-piloting about what would happen if he fought Matt Hughes...the guy must have a mental illness if he's serious. I'm sure Hughes got a good laugh out of this when he saw the tapes.

I was even more amused by his talk of rough upbringing and streetfighting, which has exactly nothing to do with anything. Yeah buddy, through luck, natural strength, or perhaps even some rough skill, you've managed to win more than you loose fighting drunks and bums, that's what a street-fighting man is. The weakest pro-fighter you'll ever face is stronger than the toughest guy you ever got into some stupid streetfight with, period.

That Luke guy impressed me again in the challenges. I dunno, maybe he can't fight at all, maybe the coaches know something I don't and that's why he got picked last, but I feel like he's tougher than he looks.

 

[White Shogun]

That Luke guy impressed me again in the challenges. I dunno, maybe he can't fight at all, maybe the coaches know something I don't and that's why he got picked last, but I feel like he's tougher than he looks.

He basically won the challenge for his team. He wrapped one opponent up in his guard and held another down with his arms, thereby freeing a teammate to grab the dummy and drag it to the end zone.

They stopped the wallsit at five minutes, but he definitely looked like he could have gone longer.

Wall sitting is no picnic, either.

The coaches were talking between themselves, calling Luke "this season's Diego." And you know how he turned out.

I'd enjoy it very much if Luke turns out to be a kick-ass fighter. I love the whole 'underdog nerd-makes-good storyline' of it.

 

[White_Savage]

What about that little joke Melvin played on Dana White, pretending like he was gonna quit...

Like so much black humour, it's right on that thin line between the choice to either say "That's funny..." and " or choke the guy out

 

[White_Savage]

He basically won the challenge for his team. He wrapped one opponent up in his guard and held another down with his arms, thereby freeing a teammate to grab the dummy and drag it to the end zone.

So the guy invents a winning strategy right on the spot for a game no one's ever seen before...gee, shouldn't Melvin or Rashad done that with their "superior real time and improvisational thinking"?

 

[White Shogun]

Weak effort on last nights TUF episode by two white heavyweights. Wasn't much of a fight, really.

But it was interesting to see Rashad sink like a stone in the challenge portion of the episode.

 

[White_Savage]

Actually, from what I've seen, Rashad acts human most of the time.

 

[White Shogun]

Actually, from what I've seen, Rashad acts human most of the time.

Lots of guys act human. But not all of them can swim.

 

[White_Savage]

Lots of guys act human. But not all of them can swim.

You know, one of the many ways Norsemen "amused" themselves when they weren't raiding was "swimming fights"-to either the submission or the outright drowning, I suppose. Might be interesting to bring it back

 

[Colonel Callan]

So the guy invents a winning strategy right on
the spot for a game no one's ever seen before...gee, shouldn't Melvin or
Rashad done that with their "superior real time and improvisational
thinking"?

If you e-mail Steve Sailer that remark... he'll ignore you completely. He
hides from any and all evidence or incidents that show his theories
wrong. Myself and others have fired off messages to him and he seems
to just hide. I do agree with some things he has written, but he always
sets things up to make whites look inferior in some fashion, in order to
appear "even-handed" and not look "racist".

 

[White_Savage]

So I noticed.

Had an email exchange with him recently.
Neither him nor blackathlete.net will discuss strength ccmpetitions or NHB fighting, no way, no how.

So, dunking a ball through a hoop, running with a ball, or beating feet down a track=manly charisma. Picking up a small car, throwing all comers on their back and pounding them into puddy somehow doesn't.

Speaking a track, he writes in one of his more recent columns that Whites are doing well in 800 meter runs because they fall between the "sweet spots" where West African sprinters and Kenyan distance runners excel. Whites are described as "mediocre runners at all distances." So let me get this straight. Extreme running speed=Great atlete. Extreme endurance=Great athlete. But a blend of speed and endurance=mediocrity? That's like saying .17 HMR and .500 Nitro Express are great cartrides in their respective niches, but deriding .308 because it's just "mediocre" between the two.

The man worships ********, he justs admits a few facts about them other afro-kissers dont.

 

[White Shogun]

Do these guys not know anything about ultra endurance running? Where are all the Kenyans and Ethiopians who should be winning the 100-milers through the Rockies and across god-forsaken deserts??

Tiger is described as the best all-around golfer ever. The Williams sisters dominate tennis news even when they lose. But a guy like Wariner and those 800-meter runners are lucky they aren't running the 100 or marathons??

Geezus H, man. I am getting sick of this nonsense.

 

[White Shogun]

P.S. Does Sailer have anything to say about IQ, or the recent activities of the great athletes of New Orleans?

 

[White_Savage]

Yes the man writes about I.Q. But let's face it, when he says blacks have lower I.Q.s and higher crime rates, he's not stating a thing that EVERYONE doesn't already know.

When you ceaselessly work to paint your own tribe as a bunch of Casper Milquetoasts, you're cutting out the very heart of them, especially when the people in question is our ice-born warrior-race. No real man or real woman will care what our crime rates or %$@#%$ average SAT scores once you've convinced tem of these "facts". And a guy intelligent as Sailer has to KNOW these things I speak of to be true.

Since time immemorial, traitors have been punished more harshly than the enemy who meets you in open battle. This is only fitting, since the turncoat is FAR more dangerous to any cause than the opposing fighting man in the opposite trench.

 

[Colonel Callan]

Ah, good to see there are others who are wise to Sailer and his BS. He
just may be some type of 'double agent', pretending he's for 'the cause',
but working to brainwash whites as to their inferiority. His remarks
regarding running border on ignorance. And denial. Try to talk with him
about Wariner and Rock. The two best 400 meter men in the world right
now. White men. Sprinters. He'll ignore you or come up with some
blather about the 400 being a bit long for a sprint. His remarks on the
800 are hilarious (BTW - the two fastest 800 meter men in terms of pure
sprint speed right now are white). Several people have tried to get him to
remark on the drug doctors and coaches who defected from Europe after
being investigated, and moved to E. Africa to "experiment" with EPO
(Rosa, Hermens, Kostre, etc.) and he ignores it - falling in lock step with
Entine, who has the all too typical-but unadmitted-jewish anti-white
agenda and attitude. They want to grind down white confidence in all
areas, no matter how small, never mind even the most obscure of sports

Sailer's praising of blacks and their "real time thinking" and
"improvisational" mental abilities makes me want to puke, to be honest.
Anyone who's spent time around them, competed against them and so on
knows this is extreme horse pucky. He clams up if you mention the
mental freezing we saw amongst our NBA stars at the Olympics and World
Champs.Or the many occasions black fighters become confused and
perplexed in NHB contests. I could go on and on. State that high jumping
is dominated by whites, and he and Entine try to stammer on about
"technique", grasping at any and all excuses for white dominance in an
athletic event.

Great remarks, White_Savage. You see the traitors for what they are, and
you know how they should be dealt with.

 

[White Shogun]

The show is becoming more and more, less exciting to watch. Whats with all the deal making and behind the scenes strategies, aka 'Survivor?' If you can't fight you aren't going to be in the UFC, period. This is making these guys look like idiots, IMO.

The fight was very lackluster. You have a guy with admittedly little experience in ground fighting, who is supposed to be a great stand up fighter, who wouldn't throw a punch to save his life. He gets taken down, side mounted, and elbowed to the head multiple times to end the fight. So much for the fighting Irish.

It was hard to tell how good his opponent really is, Joe Stevenson, as he did little to test him.

I hope the next fight is better than the last.

 

[White_Savage]

I concur.

I was rooting for the Irish boxer, but pretty much knew that if Hughes is impressed by the other guy, he'd be an animal.

Stevenson and Hughes has the short, wide, %$@#$%@%$ strong build I call the "neanderthal" type. You especially see it alot in both Meditereaneans and certain dark-haired strains from the Celtic countries, I wonder which one Joe is.

 

[White Shogun]

I don't know if the end result would have been any different, but it would have been nice to see the Irishman at least throw a few punches with bad intentions. But he didn't really get off even one before he was taken down and put away.

It wouldn't have mattered anyway, because he would have been worse off than that had he actually made it into the UFC.