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So I post on a message board with drunk white fans who are completely unawares of the Caste System.

Can somebody please help me compose a few paragraphs to persuade them that it really exists? With a few examples?

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Here are some snippets from JB Cash columns. Cut and paste as needed.

I believe that there is a caste system present in U.S. athletics, similar to the societal caste system that exists in India. It is a system of intentionally slotting and stereotyping whites as un-athletic, weak and/or slow, and by nearly all measures inferior to black athletes. This caste system is rigorously supported by the media and affects players even in the many cases where actual testing results show the stereotypes to be in error. We think that this is wrong, unfair, and every bit as much the result of the kind of racial prejudice that, when exhibited against other peoples, is roundly denounced and subjected to enormous efforts to correct.

It is no coincidence that the slightest racial inequality for blacks in any area of employment is front page news yet decades can go by with zero white running backs and nary a mention is made of it. The NFL can have a powerful committee to racially adjust the proportions of blacks on coaching staffs but has no interest in racially correcting the make-up of every team's defensive backfield.

The NFL Combine serves to give prospective pro football players a chance to showcase their physical talents and skills to NFL scouts and coaches.

Contrary to the common public perception, white athletes performed well at the 2007 Combine, and considering their smaller numbers, much better than their black counterparts. For instance white players recorded the fastest 40-yard dash times at several positions. White athletes are supposed to be slow according to every scout, sports writer, and announcer in the country, but somehow many in the small white contingent were able to run faster than the majority of the black players who are routinely complimented on their "blazing" speed.

Tight end Greg Olsen from the University of Miami ran a position leading 4.45/4.49 in the 40, vertically jumped 35.5 inches, and then landed on a VHS cassette of "White Men Can't Jump" smashing it into a thousand pieces.

Defensive lineman Brian Robison from Texas clocked in at a positon leading 4.66/4.62 in the 40. He also led all d-linemen with a phenomenal 40" vertical, had the best score in the three cone drill, did 27 bench press reps of 225 pounds, and broad jumped 10 feet 1 inch! He will be able to leap over opposing players and also tall buildings in a single bound.

The fastest linebacker was Tim Shaw of Penn State, who led with 4.48/4.41 secs. The scouting service Draft Daddy wrote this about Tim Shaw:

"Former Penn State defensive end/linebacker Tim Shaw ran a blistering 4.43 (unofficially) at the Combine today. Considered one of best tailbacks in the history of Michigan high school football, Shaw was hoping to spend his career as the Nittany Lions' feature back, but was inexplicably moved to linebacker for 'unknown reasons' early in his college career."

"Unknown reasons"? They know why and so do we.

Defensive End Adam Carriker of Nebraska recorded 33 repetitions of 225 pounds, which is like bench pressing a Volkswagen.

The fastest quarterback was Jared Zabransky from Boise State at 4.5 secs. Zabransky's 40 time is almost as fast as Michael Vick's time reportedly was while he was at Virginia Tech. Vick is considered the premier running quarterback in the NFL. He's the model for the "new" version of the mobile running quarterback. Scouts are said to be searching high and low for another one like him. So what about Jared Zabransky? With his speed and running ability he should be just what the scouts are looking for.

Zabransky is coming off a season where he led his team to an undefeated Division I-A schedule culminating in one of the most exciting bowl game victories in years. Remember how last year an exciting Rose Bowl win elevated Vince Young, the mobile, running QB of the Texas Longhorns to sure fire first round draft status? This year an impressive bowl performance elevated Jamarcus Russell to surefire can't-miss pro-QB status.

Craig Dahl, a 6-1 213 lb. strong safety out of North Dakota State, had the fastest 60 yard shuttle time of any of the defensive backs at the Combine, and faster than any of the wide receivers, running it in 11.03 seconds.

The 60-yard shuttle is a test of agility and cutting ability. For those of you familiar with Caste System terminology, that translates to "fast twitch muscle athleticism," or "loose hips," qualities that by some miraculous process are only possessed by blacks. Thus Dahl's performance  and here's a guy that was buried at North Dakota State, the football equivalent of Siberia State University  should have been genetically impossible.

A white guy from a small college with looser hips and faster twitching muscles than every highly rated black player in the country? How does that happen? How many other great white players are missed in a similar rush to recruit black "athletes" only? They better bury this guy or he could start some trouble with the "system." Not to worry though, if the historic treatment of great white athletes from small colleges is any indication this will probably be the last time you hear his name except maybe on kick coverage in a CFL game.

How about tight end Michael Allan? Here's another athletic freak - he's 6'7", 265 pounds with a 36.5" vertical and he ran a 4.65 40 yard dash. At that height and with his jumping ability he could put the star on top of the White House Christmas tree  without a ladder. He's from a small D-3 school in Washington. Obviously he was not talented enough for a Division 1 scholarship.

How odd! Here is another tremendously talented white player that ended up at a tiny college. How do the major colleges miss these guys? There's about a hundred scouting services checking out every high school player from the ghettos of L.A. to inner city Detroit to the Mississippi Delta to the Florida swamps. Yet for some reason white guys like this never make the rankings.

You'll notice that there weren't a lot of white guys at the Combine because a.) the major colleges don't recruit and play white guys; and b.) the NFL wouldn't invite them anyway because white players are lousy athletes (except at NFL Combines, the Summer and Winter Olympics, and other unimportant venues like that.)

Announcers stay awake at night dreaming of superlatives to attach to the ability of even the most pedestrian of black players. They are always described as being "super," "unreal," or "electric" athletes, who have "blazing," or "blinding speed." They are "deep threats", "play makers" and "game breakers". Announcers will always use adjectives like "natural athlete" to describe black players.

Whites on the other hand can never be great athletes as far as the media is concerned. If a white player excels then he's a "high-effort, high-character guy." He plays "all-out" or he's an "overachiever." He might have a "non-stop motor" or be a "blue collar" or "working class" type of player. If a white player is clearly fast and there is nothing they can do to dispute the fact then they will say he has "sneaky speed" or is "deceptively fast". Because as we ALL know since he is white he can't really be F-A-S-T.

Thus white players are "possession receivers" and third down players, who play because they have great hands or are "smart." Even players like Matt Jones, who runs the 40 faster than just about any black player in football, will be described as "rumblin' and stumblin'" as he strides by the all-black secondary for a touchdown.

It's one of the most amazing examples of the mind refusing to admit what the eye is seeing that exists in our modern society. The double standard is so obvious, inane and unrelenting that it can drive one to distraction.

How to explain the disconnect between the great athletic ability displayed by white players at the Combine and the media perception that they are unathletic? Easy. Anti-white racism fueled by white guilt and a political system intent on manipulating the way people view race. The beat-down of white people reaps great benefits for the social elite and allows them to implement the strategies that have led to the current state of our society. If you cannot see who profits from all this then you are not looking very hard.

White players have always performed well, at every level of football. It is only through the constant non-stop brainwashing aimed at every white person in America that the plainly obvious fact that white players can run fast and jump high is not a commonly accepted belief.

With some of the best white college players on display for all to see, this myth has been crushed. Though it remains to be seen how fast reality sinks in, because if there is any group of people in dumbed-down America who are adverse to reality intruding in on their fantasy existence, at the front of the line are football coaches, media "journalists," and football fans.
 

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Wow, jaxvid...

Nice compilation of info from JB's columns. Having all that information in one post is a great resource. Thanks!

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Here's some other things you could mention.
1.Eric Weddle is tied for the fastest 10 yard dash all time on NFLdraftscout.com and is white, played CB in college and held Calvin Johnson to one short catch one on one in a game in college yet is only a "safety" in the NFL.
2. The fastest 20 yard shuttle on NFLdraftscout.com is by white WR Kevin Kasper a standout WR at Iowa University who was never given a chance to start in the NFL even though he performed brilliantly his rookie season before getting hurt.
3. You could mention a many number of walk-on white skill players who are good enough for the NFL yet couldn't get a division one scholarship out of H.S. There are plenty ie. Jordy Nelson, Kevin Kasper, Mike Hass. The best example might be Mike Furrey who got to the NFL via the Arena football league. Furrey was demoted to 4th WR this year after making 98 catches last year for the Lions.
4. Another good one is that Nick Saban wanted to cut Wes Welker on the Dolphins in the 2006 summer after performing brilliantly for a "potential" known as Marcus Vick and other black nobodies. Saban was overruled by management.
5. Mike Hass...enough said. Mike Hass was written off for running a 4.59 40 yard at the NFL combine which is as fast or faster than Jerry Rice and Issac Bruce. These 3 guys play very similar in style. You could put together a list of at least 20 WRs who were drafted higher than Hass since 1999 with much less credentials in college who have less speed via NFLdraftscout.com. I don't have the time to do that work for you right now.
6. The treatment of Kevin Curtis. Who has been called "a good 3rd WR" by Deion and Tony Kornheiser and is hated in Phili more than Stallworth despite posting the best stats by a WR not named Terrell Owens in Phili in the last 9 years.

7. Wait a couple days to post a response to these drunken white fans because I have about 7-9 great Newspaper articles that prove there is a caste system saved on a hard-disk that I have in my desk at work. I will post all the articles here in a couple days and you could post them on the message board and it will shock the drunken white fans...oh my God there are newspaper articles on his side now!



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ToughJ.Riggins said:
7. Wait a couple days to post a response to these drunken white fans because I have about 7-9 great Newspaper articles that prove there is a caste system saved on a hard-disk that I have in my desk at work. I will post all the articles here in a couple days and you could post them on the message board and it will shock the drunken white fans...oh my God there are newspaper articles on his side now!


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I know a good dozen or more MSM articles have beenmentioned and/or posted and linked toon Caste Football, but many have been lost over time due to the sheer volume of information and commentary on this site. I look forward to seeing your compilation.
 

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There is so much evidence it's almost unbelievable
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! That was a laugh of frustration, seeing as the majority of people are completely oblivious to this.
 

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Groomed to be grounded
Zibby's toughness forged by family


By ERIC HANSEN
Tribune Staff Writer


The words bounce off Tom Zbikowski's tough exterior, more of an annoyance now than something that tears at his soul.
Deceptively fast.
It almost seems scripted with the regularity in which college football television commentators attach the term to the Notre Dame junior safety/punt returner. Just as he heard when he was an option quarterback at Buffalo Grove (Ill.) High School. Just as he heard when he settled into the starting blocks as a high school sprint standout.
"I'd like to think I'm just fast," said Zbikowski, who'll need every bit of his speed and savvy to keep up with Ohio State's fleet receiving corps in the Fiesta Bowl, Monday at Tempe, Ariz. "I guess if you asked teams that tried to catch me this year, they'd say I'm pretty fast."
But not perfect. The 6-foot, 208-pounder is the first to point that out.
"I think I've gotten better from game to game," Zbikowski said. "I've taken (defensive backs) coach (Bill) Lewis' teachings and tried to work on my weaknesses -- not being too aggressive and trying to hit everyone on every single play. Just being more patient."
He's never been patient about the speed issue, though, nor have his parents, Ed and Sue.
That's why they'd drive around the country in the years leading up to Tom coming to Notre Dame, pitting their son against some of the nation's best sprinters. They'd sleep in the car, eat fast food, give up any semblance of a social life to prove a point -- over and over again.
And they'd do the same to amplify their youngest child's ambitious amateur boxing career as well.
"When you're a white athlete, you're never fast," Ed said without a hint of resentment or disrespect in his voice. "It's reality, and we dealt with it."
Recruiting analyst Tom Lemming of CSTV and the Prep Football Report, said Zbikowski's saga is hardly isolated.
"When it comes to football, white athletes have to prove themselves more than black athletes at certain positions -- cornerback, wide receiver and running back," Lemming said. "There's a prejudice amongst a lot of college coaches -- not all of them -- that white guys can't play those positions. So when they get to college, they get switched right away to other positions.
"Tommy lasted three days at cornerback. Even though he was one of the fastest kids in Illinois (sixth in the 100-meter dash at the large-school state meet as a senior), there was a stigma with (former Irish coach) Tyrone Willingham's staff that he didn't have the loose hips to play corner, so he never really got a chance there. I don't think Charlie Weis, though, looks at it that way. Otherwise, he wouldn't have him returning punts."
* * *
Weis, ND's first-year head coach, didn't have to be convinced about Tom's toughness, either. And Zbikowski, in turn, might have been the first Irish player who embraced Weis' in-your-face style, complete with the brazen language, demands and expectations.
"My dad talks worse than that," Tom said with a smile. "I was talking to (Irish wide receiver) Jeff Samardzija about it, and some of the comments (Weis) said were compliments compared to what we've heard in our time. It was more my personality, more like I've grown up around."
And in that light, toughness wasn't a choice. Ed grew up in a rugged neighborhood on Chicago's west side and it permeates his personality even now.
"Nobody except Johnny Lattner went to Notre Dame," Ed said, referring to ND's Heisman Trophy winner of 1953. "In fact, nobody went to college or really dreamed of it. You worked in a factory after high school or in printing plants. Sports were important, but so was fighting, because you had to fight to get onto the softball field. You had to fight to get onto the basketball court. You had 1,000 kids for one court where I came from."
And Ed and Sue both fought to push their family into suburbia and middle class, working two and three jobs each so they could get their kids into a strong school system.
"My mom's probably the best athlete in the family," Tom said of the former basketball, softball and track star. "She's had a tremendous influence on me."
As did his siblings, Kristen (now 28) and E.J. (now 24).
Kristen was a softball standout at Ohio University, but she wanted to be a boxer.
"Tommy started to box when he was 9 and Kristen was 17. When she found out where Tommy was going to box, she snuck in to learn too," Ed said. "And I'm talking to the guy running the place about how Tommy's coming along, and he tells me how good Kristen is. That's how I found out about it. I said, 'please, stop it.'
"She's a pistol. She should have been a boy. I have more problems with her than I do with my boys. Figure that one out. So Tommy had to be tough, because he had a sister who was a wacko and a brother who went through all kinds of different stuff. No one had to say, 'Tommy, you have to be tough' or 'Tommy you have to dedicate yourself.' It was all laid out in front of him beforehand."
* * *
E.J., which stands for Edmund Joseph, was diagnosed with a brain tumor when he was 5 and toddling Tommy was just learning how to launch food from his high chair.
Seizures came along with the tumor, which prompted the family to take E.J. to the renowned Mayo Clinic. A year later, after the tumor continued to grow and the seizures became worse, E.J. underwent his first operation.
"The tumor was removed," Ed said, "but three years later, it had grown back and we were just beside ourselves."
A second surgery ensued, this one a more daring and untested procedure, but this time the cancer cells never grew back. The seizures, though, lingered for a while. And young E.J. dealt with them while playing sports.
"It wasn't embarrassing for him, but it was not something most people would put up with," Ed said. "He would be out there playing and all of a sudden fall to the ground. People would be like, 'Oh my God, what's going on?' I kept asking E.J., 'Are you sure you still want to do this?' And he was always very sure he wanted to.
"Tommy was young, but he knew what was going on. He always says, 'With what my brother went through, for me to complain about anything, I can't do it.' "
* * *
Overcoming the seizures became inspiration for E.J. Zbikowski to stalk his dreams with unbridled hope. Eventually, the seizures went away, but so did many of the opportunities to play sports on the collegiate level for the 6-foot-5 ball of determination.
He dabbled in football at Winona State and in junior college baseball, showing sparks of greatness in both in relative obscurity, but never experienced the momentous recruiting chase that Tom would later enjoy.
"That's why when ESPN.com approached us about Tommy doing a recruiting diary, we agreed to it -- but on certain conditions," Ed said. "I had two great athletes before Tommy -- E.J. and Kristen -- and they really didn't get the opportunities they should have, because I knew nothing about the process. I blame myself.
"So I said, 'That's never going to happen again.' I talked to the guy at ESPN and told him I wanted this to be a vehicle for other parents to understand the recruiting game. And I wanted it to come from the heart."
Tom's candor, though, sometimes prompted scathing criticism, primarily from sports talk radio callers and Internet message board posters. Even Notre Dame fans recoiled at how lukewarm he seemed to be about his scholarship offer from the school.
"It became a problem, really, because (then-recruiting coordinator) Greg Mattison and Tyrone Willingham kind of soft-played him," Ed said. "They offered him a scholarship, but there wasn't that feeling that you really were wanted. It was like, 'You're our guy, and we want you to come.' Then they'd never call anymore. And yet you'd have (Iowa head coach) Kirk Ferentz sitting in your kitchen, breaking bread with you. It wasn't an easy situation at all."
Nor has been playing for three different defensive backs coaches in three years at ND or injuries suffered last season that Tom played through but never told the media about or the growing pains that come with evolving at his position.
"We know Tommy will make a great play and he'll miss a play," Ed said. "You've got to take the good with the bad, that's the way we've always lived our lives. But he's out there competing, trying to get better. And he's not afraid to take criticism. That's made him the player he is and gives him a chance to keep getting better.
"Hey, as a father you hear that stuff from the talking heads on TV, and it doesn't feel great. But that's their job. They can say what they want. I realize their job isn't to make Ed Zbikowski happy. But Tommy knows his job too.
"In our family, you get knocked down, you better get your ass back up. And that's the one thing no one can ever take away from Tommy."
 

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Questions continue to lurk under surface of recruiting
Chicago Sun-Times, Dec 17, 1999 by Taylor Bell

I'm not saying the only reason the two best running backs in the Chicago area aren't being recruited by major colleges is because they are white.
But you'd have a hard time convincing anyone who saw the Class 6A championship game that Naperville Central's Ryan Clifford hasn't got the moves, quickness and toughness to play in Division I.
Until Clifford took off like a rocket, scoring a state-record 51 touchdowns, most observers targeted Hinsdale Central's Mike Mangan as the leading ball-carrier in the state.
Neither of them is drawing much interest from big-time recruiters. Both have been invited to visit Ball State. Maryland is considering Mangan. Illinois dropped Clifford from its shopping list, but Indiana made a last-minute call and invited him to visit this weekend.
Are they too slow, too small or too white? It is a taboo subject among college coaches. Even high school coaches don't want to talk about skin tones. It reminds of 20 to 25 years ago, when black quarterbacks were a controversial issue in college and professional football.
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"Remember when no one wanted to recruit or sign a black quarterback?" recruiting analyst Tom Lemming said. "And if they did, he was shifted to cornerback or wide receiver. Now we have the same problem with extremely productive white running backs.
"The colleges won't talk about it, like black quarterbacks weren't talked about. But it still goes on. Recruiters claim white running backs aren't explosive enough or fast enough. But Clifford has what it takes. Recruiters say they love him but they can't get final approval."
Naperville Central coach Joe Bunge doesn't think it is a racial issue. The area's other top running backs, Schaumburg's Jason Hawkins and Barrington's Dan Pohlman, are white. Pohlman chose Northwestern over Illinois. Hawkins picked Northern Illinois. After rushing for nearly 3,000 yards, he could have switched to a Big Ten school but elected to honor his commitment to NIU.
"White isn't an issue. Those days are past," Bunge said. "I think Ryan can play in the Big Ten. Guys his size are playing in the NFL. (Georgia Tech quarterback) Joe Hamilton isn't big, but he was a finalist for the Heisman Trophy. There are many cases where kids with great heart are successful.
"I'm disappointed in the recruiting process. Here is a kid who has done things that no one else in state history has accomplished, but college coaches are reluctant to offer a scholarship. Are they saying that Ryan can't do something or play somewhere to make a team better?"
Hinsdale Central coach Ken Schreiner is baffled by lack of interest in Mangan. He understands the recruiting process is an inexact science, that schools have certain needs, that some athletes are priorities and some aren't.
"We're talking about two of the top backs in the state, including a kid (Clifford) who is the poster boy for high school football in Illinois this year," he said. "I would think there are colleges that would show more interest than none at all. Mangan brings as much or more to the table than others we have had who are succeeding in Division I. I know how hard kids work to put themselves in position to be considered for a scholarship. And I know hard work doesn't guarantee success. But you would think Clifford and Mangan would command more consideration on their merits."
Lemming said Mike Alstott (Purdue), who was offered only one scholarship as a Joliet Catholic senior, Mark Edwards (Notre Dame) and Tim Dwight (Iowa) were exceptions to the stereotype. But Ohio's 1998 Player of the Year, running back Ryan Brewer, a 5-9, 180- pounder, received no offers from Big Ten or Mid-American schools. He played for Lou Holtz at South Carolina as a freshman.
"I understand college football is a multimillion-dollar business and coaches have jobs on the line and don't want to stick their necks out," Bunge said. "They are looking for a prototype player. But there is more to the game than size. The will to win, emotion and spirit count for something. Spirit is more important than size, strength and speed."
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Here's an article by famous NFL.com annalist Mike Golic
I am a football fan or otherwise I would not be writing for this site. However, I am worried that football has become something less than the sport that I love. It has become a corporation. Less emphasis is put on whether or not a player can play as to whether he runs 40 yards in under 4.5 seconds, which is why I wrote a previous article about my concerns. Reading other sites and mock drafts and hearing what the so called "experts" have to say, has led me to write this column. And the subject is Brian Leonard.
If you have heard the name Brian Leonard, you have probably heard someone follow it with "Needs to put on weight and become a fullback". Why? He played running back in college and posted good numbers; including 880 yards and 9 TD's as a freshman. He totaled 44 touchdowns in 4 years at Rutgers. He has caught the ball extremely well out of the backfield, averaging 52 catches per year in 3 years as a starter. Yes he did play fullback his last two seasons while splitting carries with Ray Rice. But why should he have to move to fullback full time?
"He lacks the speed to be a true lead back," says a prominent NFL Draft website about Leonard. That's funny, because I remember him running a 4.49 40 at the Combine. That's faster than Dwayne Bowe, Tanard Jackson, Kenny Irons and was ran the same time as many other backs who are projected to be a number 1 guy. I'm not a big fan of talking about 40 times with running backs as I do not see them being as important but if someone can run a sub 4.5 that is fast enough. His 40 time was plenty fast enough, however it could not dispel the talk that he was not fast enough. Again, why? They said he didn't have good enough timed speed, but he does. He timed better than some of the best backs to ever play the game.
I hate to have it come to this, but at this point I have to question whether this is a race issue. If you didn't know by now Brian Leonard is white. Every starting running back in the NFL is black. In fact, most skill position players are black. I am not taking anything away from the black race, as they are exceptionally gifted athletically, but I am saying in the world of professional sports, race is a significant hurdle many white skill position players have to overcome (except QB's).
Let me compare Brian Leonard to another top rated Running Back:
Brian Leonard Back A
Height6'1 ½6'1 5/8
Weight226 lbs&nb sp;233 lbs
40 4.49&n bsp;4.68

Bench 28 reps&n bsp;24
Vertical 34 ½ inches 32 inches
Back A is Tony Hunt, Penn State's starting running back. Now how come there aren't any experts calling for Hunt to put on a little weight and move to fullback? All his measurables were worse than Leonard's, and I didn't even include shuttle times. I have a hard time believing Brian Leonard would not be just as productive as Tony Hunt if not more. So why do they make Leonard play fullback but not Hunt? It's a question I have a hard time answering with anything besides that Leonard is white. Now I have no problem admitting that in the arena of professional football black players have been more productive than white players. My only problem is that when a white running back comes along he is not given as fair of a chance to prove himself as a true running back, even though he outperforms many of the black running backs he's competing against in the speed and agility tests.
Leonard is as versatile and talented as any back in this class, and has shown the character, humility and toughness to match production that teams are looking for. If given the chance I am positive that he will become a successful running back. All he needs is a chance.
 

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Some gray in black-white issue
Chicago Sun-Times, Mar 5, 2006
by Taylor Bell

Several weeks ago, a college recruiter called Aurora Christian coach Don Beebe to inquire about running back Matt Russell.

"Is he black or white?" the recruiter asked.

Russell is white. He is a 5-10, 184-pounder with 4.59-second speed in the 40-yard dash who has virtually no chance of scooting around a sizable barrier that saw only one white tailback starting in Division I and none in the NFL during the 2005 season.

"I know how it feels," said Beebe, a 1983 Kaneland graduate, who played in the NFL for nine seasons. "I was a white kid from a small school, and I had to prove I could play with the big boys. I was a wide receiver who had to take a long route to the NFL. I had to prove myself.

"We live in a society where black athletes definitely are going to get the better look. I tell scouts: `Look at the numbers. Look at the 10- or 40-yard dash. Look at agility, vision in the open field. Look at the tape. Evaluate a kid not by the color of his skin but by his talent.' That's what I said about Russell. What does color matter?"

Russell is expected to sign with Grand Valley State in Allendale, Mich., the top-rated Division II program in the nation, in the next few days. It was the only school to offer him a full scholarship.

"I'm disappointed that he isn't going to a Division I school," Beebe said. "There is no question in my mind that he has the kind of talent to play tailback or safety in Division I. It is a sad situation, like the black man in society. We've come a long way since the 1950s in society and athletics, but we still have a long way to go."

There is a taboo in football recruiting, a subject college coaches don't dare to discuss in public. It is a hush-hush issue among more than a few Chicago-area coaches, who publicly are reluctant to accuse college recruiters of racism but privately question why white running backs, wide receivers and defensive backs aren't being sought by Division I programs.

It's a black-and white issue, but it isn't about racism; it's about winning and perception. Who can run faster? Who is more athletic? Who is smart enough to play quarterback? Which tailback is most explosive? Who can cover a wide receiver or outrun a cornerback?

"Loose hips and fast-twitch muscles are two things that college coaches have told me for years when they bring up the names of white kids who are trying to play tailback, wide receiver or cornerback," recruiting analyst Tom Lemming said.

Those are the buzzwords that were bandied about at the NFL combine last week in Indianapolis. Loose hips refer to an athlete's flexibility, his ability to turn on a dime. Fast-twitch muscles refer to an athlete's burst, his ability to react more quickly.

"It all comes down from the NFL," Lemming said. "How many white cornerbacks are playing in the NFL? Jason Sehorn was one. Over the last 30 years, coaches have been raised to think white kids can't play the skill positions. The same prejudice that once kept black quarterbacks out of the NFL is keeping white tailbacks, wide receivers and defensive backs out of the league."

For years, African Americans weren't perceived to be smart enough to play quarterback in college or the NFL. But Doug Williams forever changed that jaded philosophy when he led the Washington Redskins to the Super Bowl championship in 1988. But the misperception remains that white players aren't physically equipped to play the other skill positions.

Former Buffalo Grove star Tom Zbikowski, the Sun-Times Player of the Year in 2002, was dubbed "too slow," even though he was timed in 4.3 seconds for 40 yards. Recruited to Notre Dame by then-coach Tyrone Willingham, Zbikowski spent only three days at cornerback before being switched to safety "because whites aren't supposed to be fast enough or athletic enough to play cornerback."

"If I had been timed in 4.4 or 4.5, the NFL scouts never would have looked at me," Beebe said. "But when you set a record at the combine [Beebe and Deion Sanders were timed in 4.2], it opened up a lot of eyes. Even then, some scouts still were skeptical. After three years in the NFL, after playing in the Super Bowl [with the Buffalo Bills], media people from ESPN and big-city newspapers asked if I had black ancestors."

Beebe was a 5-10, 165-pound wide receiver at Kaneland. In high school, he never was timed for 40 yards. Western Illinois was the only school to offer him a full scholarship; Northern Illinois offered him a half-ride. He sat out for three years, then enrolled at little-known Chadron State in Nebraska.

"When I ran 4.2 at the combine, no one believed it," Beebe said. "Twenty-one teams sent scouts to Chadron State to re-time me. They couldn't believe that a white kid could be so fast. Today, we believe blacks are dominant to whites in sports. But I believe whites can play at any level."

Zbikowski is trying to disprove the myth, as former Joliet Catholic star Mike Alstott once did. As a high school senior, the 6- 2, 200-pound running back was hailed as the Sun-Times Player of the Year. But he was recruited by only one college, Purdue. Later, he became an All-Pro fullback in the NFL.

"Tommy got a lot of offers as an athlete, but colleges said he'd be a safety, not a cornerback, because he wasn't fast enough or his hips weren't loose enough," said Ed Zbikowski, Tom father.

"There is no question that Zbikowski could have played cornerback," Beebe said. "But the perception is whites can't play cornerback or tailback. Jason Sehorn proved he could play cornerback in the NFL. If there was one, there are others. But it won't change unless coaches are unafraid to play whites at skill positions."


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Canadian athlete tries to dispell football stereotypes
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So we all know now that Jesse Lumsden is a legit pro prospect.

Scouts and coaches admittedly were caught off-guard by his performance at last week's East West Shrine game. In fact, Colin Lindsay at the Great Blue North Draft Report (gbnreport.com) said in his recap of the week, "the most intriguing back in San Francisco was Jesse Lumsden of McMaster, one of two players from Canadian universities. Lumsden showed excellent patience and vision, along with exceptional upfield acceleration once he found the seam."

In fact, Lindsay and his staff had Lumsden rated as the second-best performer out of 27 skill position players (behind only Louisville quarterback Stefan Lefors, who threw three touchdown passes), and the seventh-best out of 51 total offensive players.

But what many people may not know about Lumsden's week in San Francisco is that he's fighting an uphill battle in more than one respect. While his efforts to rise above the stereotypes of a Canadian football player are well documented, he's also trying to break racial prejudices as well.

A quick look at NCAA and NFL rosters the past couple seasons show some tough numbers for Lumsden to try and beat. In 2003, 98 per cent of running backs were minorities. In 2004, there were 117 schools in division I-A football, and two had a starting white running back.

A current CIS player who is a minority has friends attending schools in the U.S. and said that he thinks the cold shoulder Lumsden received in San Francisco was about more than just coming from Canada.

"Those guys are fighting for their livelihood down there, and to them, Jesse is an anomaly," the player said. "A white guy trying to break through at running back or wide receiver is trying to break moulds that they have for people. It's a lot like black quarterbacks a few years back.

"I just wonder if he was an offensive lineman instead who was a physical freak, like 6'7", 320 pounds, just made for the position the same way Jesse is made for running back. Would there be the same type of controversy? I don't think so, because seeing a white guy on the offensive line isn't so different."

Back in September 2004, Orlando Sentinel writers Chris Harry and Charles Robinson put together an extensive feature looking at the dominance of minorities at the running back position. The insightful piece looked at everything from genetics to youth environment to prejudicial scouts and coaches.

Tony Dungy, head coach of the Indianapolis Colts, told the writers that he believes younger players are "funneled" to positions based on race.

"You've got guys in high school, white players, who are discouraged from being wide receivers, defensive backs or running backsâ€â€￾I think we have that," Dungy said. "It's 'this position is a black position or white position.' I definitely believe they are channeled early on."

Doug Williams, the first black quarterback to play in a Super Bowl back in 1988, told The Sentinel that colour is just a by-product of the most important factor for a running back: speed.

"A lot of it boils down to athletic ability," Williams said. "If you have a kid who's been productive who's a black running back and he's running a 4.8 [in the 40-yard dash], and you have a white kid who's been productive who's running a 4.5, make no mistake, the 4.5 is going to be the kid getting the opportunity."

However, the Sil's source in the CIS said that the white kid Williams mentions who's running the 4.5 usually won't last at running back by the time his college career is done.

"You look at a guy Jesse's size with his speed, if he would have went down south, they would have converted him to linebacker or safety in his freshman year," the player says.

Or fullback, NFL fullback Mike Alstott told The Sentinel. "No one was interested in me playing tailback," Alstott says of his recruitment period, when he was 6'0", and 205 pounds.

The simple fact though is that these young players, whether entering the college or pro ranks, are willing to do anything to achieve their dream, and don't sit back and think about stereotypes or prejudices when they're told to switch positions.

"I just question whether Jesse would have caught the same amount of flack down there in San Fran if his name was Jamaal Lumsden," the CIS player asked.
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I guess the NYT doesn't have the Duke Lacrosse team and Don Imus to kick around anymore: From the New York Times:

Study of N.B.A. Sees Racial Bias in Calling Fouls
By ALAN SCHWARZ

An academic study of the National Basketball Association, whose playoffs continue tonight, suggests that a racial bias found in other parts of American society has existed on the basketball court as well. A coming paper by a University of Pennsylvania professor and a Cornell University graduate student says that, during the 13 seasons from 1991 through 2004, white referees called fouls at a greater rate against black players than against white players.

These scholars should get the Nobel Prize for their discovery that there are still white players in the NBA!

Well, actually, both black and white refs call more fouls on whites than on blacks per minute played, but, relatively speaking, players tend to get a worse break from opposite race refs. The economists write:

The data in Figure 2 show that 21 out of 29 black referees [74%] have a below-average bias in foul-calling against black players, while 34 of 55 white referees [62%] have an above average bias in foul-calling against black players.

That would seem to raise the obvious question: who is right and who is wrong? Perhaps the black refs on average are wrongly discriminating against the white players more than the white refs are wrongly discriminating against the black players? I realize it's completely despicable to even entertain that possibility, but it is a conceptual possibility. ...

Okay, forget I ever said that. Everybody knows that in all facets of human behavior, blacks are more accurate and honest decision makers than whites, so white racism must be the only possible explanation. To have an open mind on this subject is proof of prejudice!

The economists admit, unsurprisingly:

"Unfortunately our framework is not well-suited to sorting out whether these results are driven by the actions of black or white referees."

They go on to take some SWAGs at why it's really the white refs' fault, but they admit that is much weaker than the rest of their analysis. But that doesn't stop the NYT from playing this study up as proof of the White Man Keeping the Black Man Down in the NBA.

Interesting findings from this huge study in the pdf that the NYT doesn't play up:

-Blacks get 83% of the playing time in the NBA.

- Blacks get substantially fewer fouls called on them per 48 minutes of playing time, but they are more likely to be starters, who get fewer fouls, and not play center, a position that fouls a lot. Possibly, referee bias in favor of blacks contributes to blacks getting to be starters more, but nobody is interested in investigating that.

- NBA teams would win slightly more games if they played whites more. The economists write: "In our sample, the team with a greater share of playing time accounted for by black players won 48.6% of games ..." That this figure doesn't diverge far from 50% show that NBA teams are pretty good about about putting the best team on the court irrespective of color, but you know that if the study showed the opposite -- that teams that played more whites won only 48.6% of the time -- the NYT would be howling about anti-black prejudice.

If you are interested in a blatant example of old guard stupidity in sports having a disparate impact by ethnicity that the media relentlessly ignored for decades because it was benefiting a minority group, here's my 2003 article "Baseball's Hidden Ethnic Bias."
 

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Bob West column for Sunday, Feb 11

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If you're wondering why North Texas was the only school willing to sign Nederland's talented Micah Mosley as an offensive player, here's the fact you will never get anybody to admit. Most college coaches won't recruit a white running back, even one as good as Mosley. Thankfully that didn't bother Todd Dodge, who was totally unconcerned that he had virtually no competition on the Bulldog standout. "I don't know what other people saw or didn't see," Dodge said. "One thing we are not going to get hung up on is who else offered a player. I'm not in it to see how many stars are beside a players name on a website. We will evaluate athletes on how they can compete on the college level. Micah Mosley can compete." . . . Speaking of recruiting web sites, the number of stars beside the names of high school prospects, and how silly some of the recruiting mumbo jumbo is, Rick Maese of the Baltimore Sun uncovered some very eye-opening numbers on how misleading the evaluations can be. Maese tracked the nation's top 100 blue chippers, as listed on the Rivals.com website in 2002, and found many more misses that hits. Of the top 100, only one in five managed to earn first team all conference honors, while one in four either quit or transferred . . .


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Tiger-Cats' Lumsden breaks CFL's mould
HERB ZURKOWSKY, The Gazette
Published: Saturday, August 25
Jesse Lumsden heard it all while growing up, yet remained undaunted and, somehow, persevered.
He was too tall.
He was too white.
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The Eskimos were one of the few teams to stifle Tiger-Cats tailback Jesse Lumsden (right) this season, holding the Canadian to only 38 yards two weeks ago.
He was too lean.
He was even too Canadian.
"I wanted to do it, and I wasn't going to let anyone tell me I couldn't," he said.
They call it the Canadian Football League, but it's a misnomer. Sure, the rules are unique, but half the rosters are comprised of U.S.-born players, including the skill positions of quarterback and running back. And the coaching staffs are almost entirely comprised of Americans, although a pair of Canucks, British Columbia's Wally Buono and Edmonton's Danny Maciocia, God bless them, are non-imports.
So you can imagine how refreshing it is to see Lumsden lining up in the Hamilton Tiger-Cats backfield and, for the most part, succeeding. Lumsden is a white, Canadian running back. Imagine that?
Twice, he has tried making it in the National Football League, with Seattle and Washington, but didn't survive long - because he's a white, Canadian running back.
Even before turning pro, Lumsden heard whispers some teams wanted to convert him to slotback because he's a white, Canadian running back. It mattered little that he captured the Hec Crighton trophy in 2004, awarded annually to the outstanding player in the Canadian college ranks, or that he set a single-season CIS rushing mark of 1,816 yards. Only through the grace of former Ticats head coach Greg Marshall - a Canadian, and Lumsden's collegiate coach at McMaster - was he drafted sixth overall in 2005 and allowed to play the position of his choice.
Marshall has long since departed, but Lumsden, in his first full season with Hamilton, is thriving. He's the league's second-leading rusher, with 592 yards on only 67 carries - a mind-boggling average of 8.8 yards per trip - along with three touchdowns. He gained 158 yards in a game against B.C. Two weeks later against Winnipeg, and with his father, former CFL fullback Neil Lumsden doing commentary on the radio, he had 211 yards. He was named the league's Canadian player of the month in July.
"I've always considered myself a running back," he said. "I'm proud to be Canadian and I wear the Maple Leaf on my sleeve, but I'm doing this as a player. I was always taught never to doubt my own ability.
"Running the ball is all about attitude. If you have it, that's what matters."
Lumsden, who recently turned 25, has that gumption. In spades. At 6-foot-2 and 226 pounds, he has the rare combination of size, speed and power. He's not shifty, but is quicker than people realize. He attacks the line of scrimmage with relentless power and is difficult to tackle alone. Should he elude the linebackers and hit the secondary, Lumsden seems to find a second gear.
He has a chance to become the first Canadian to lead the league in rushing since Orville Lee in 1988. He could reach Normie Kwong's 51-year-old mark of 1,437 yards - believed to be the most in a season by a Canadian back.
The Ticats have built their offence around him and Lumsden quickly has become the face of the team. The Burlington, Ont., native almost immediately was dubbed a sex symbol and had a full-page photo spread in the Hamilton Spectator.
"It would be an insult to Jesse to say I'm amazed," head coach Charlie Taaffe said. "Jesse's a heck of a player. I don't care if he's Canadian. He's a fine player who happens to be Canadian. He's developing into one of the premier players in the league. I'm glad he's on our team."
But Lumsden remains human. And he can be stopped. He was held to 38 yards two weeks ago, by Edmonton, and gained only 15 yards early this season, against Toronto. Even the Alouettes surrendered a modest 79 yards on 10 carries.
"We have to be aggressive," said Montreal linebacker Diamond Ferri, who will have the responsibility of stopping Lumsden in man coverage. "Cut the head off the snake and the snake dies. You can't hit him high; that's where his power is.
"He's going to see a lot of (number) 40. How about that? A lot."
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July 28, 2007
POSITION PROFILING


Many years ago, rooting for the Michigan Wolverines was simple: three or four televised games a year, the occasional Free Press article, and usually one game at the Big House against the likes of Purdue or Iowa. I never knew the name of a single recruit. A player earned space in my brain by playing good football on the field. The larvae/pupae stages of the collegiate football player life cycle were as yet undiscovered. It never occurred to me that knowing about players before they were good was desirable or even sensible. Think about the brain cells I have wasted envisioning Cobrani Mixon laying waste to enemy running backs.
That said, I love recruiting, and it's not creepy as some humorously suggest. It's about hope. One school walks away with the National Championship, and the other 127 hope. The futures market for college football fans is recruiting.
And this year, Michigan fans are hoping Sam McGuffie chooses the Wolverines on Sunday. Really. Really. Really. Hoping. In fact, I cannot ever recall this level of intensity about a recruit, although the Rojo fiasco comes close.
Which raises the question as to why Michigan fans are this excited about a player not even in the Rivals100. A four star player ranked behind several other running backs, a player not in same league as Kevin Grady or Jonas Gray, according to the recruiting services.
The answer is simple: Sam McGuffie is a victim of racism. The Michigan faithful, being far smarter than the average Buckeye, see through this racism and understand that Sam McGuffie is the best running back in the country. That's why they're excited.
Those who read my main blog, Logic Times, know that I am an arch conservative and abhor victimology, which seeks to replace common sense and hard work with blame. I offer this disclaimer because I do not seek out victims - real victims are obvious and deserving of our compassion and help, contrived victims are grifters, deserving of scorn. So why find a victim where no one else does? Why point to the white elephant in the room? First of all, it hardly matters - it's more of a humorous observation than anything else. That Sam is a victim of recruiting racism or position profiling is of little consequence and without any need for remedy. But it does raise an interesting question: Why?
Highly successful running backs in major collegiate football are not white. Sam McGuffie does not fit the profile of a big time running back and, as a result, his accomplishments and physical skills have been devalued, if only slightly. If he were black and had the same stats, he would unequivocally be a five star recruit. Perhaps to compensate for this, Rivals reclassifies him as an "All Purpose Back" and rates him number one in this category, although why someone who lugged the ball out the backfield an astonishing 358 times as a junior is an All Purpose Back and not a Running Back is beyond me.

In most ways, the Cy Fair senior surpasses the other backs rated in the top 100. Now, I will readily admit I am not a recruiting professional. I am not a recruiting amateur. But rating a player has to be based upon physical potential or stats or gut feel watching him run or some combination of these things, and nowhere can one find a hole in Sam's football resume that would suggest not ranking him higher. Size? All the players rated ahead of him are near clones; their heights are eerily similar and while Sam is the lightest by a few pounds, it is not significant (look at Reggie Bush, Joe McKnight and Noel Devine in previous years below). He is the strongest. He is the fastest. His SPARQ rating is the highest (in fact, out of 1146 records in the SPARQ database, he ranks 4th and he is not number 1 only because the three kids in front of him have like 5,000 bench press reps). He has a 3.83 shuttle! He has the most carries (durable). He has the second most yards and touchdowns (within a whisker of the number two player in the country and miles ahead of the rest). He plays in a tough football state at the highest level.
And most important of all, any football fan who watches Sam McGuffie run knows that he is looking at something unique. Never have I seen a more explosive player with greater acceleration and better vision than this kid (at the high school level). Rivals experts agree, ranking him first and second overall in two out of four skill categories. "The video of McGuffie breaking people down in the open field is almost legendary, and he's without question the best in this group in my opinion," says Rivals's Jeremy Crabtree($). And, "I also think McGuffie definitely is a threat to score on every play."
Admittedly, in watching the Rivals video highlights of other backs, some (like Darrell Scott - $) compile yardage in a different, more physical, manner, shedding tacklers like they are oompa loompas, and perhaps that is the deciding factor in this irrelevant game of awarding stars.
No five star, Rivals100 running back in recent years has stats that compare to Sam McGuffie (admittedly, stats become thin as we look back in time):

Does this position profiling matter? Not at all. I personally believe that, if McGuffie chooses Michigan, he could win a Heisman. God has not created a more harmonious match than McGuffie's running style and the zone running game. With no studs in the corral, Sam McGuffie stands to shine and shine early. Four star, five star, white, black...who cares? I just can't wait to see that kid accelerate through holes opened by Justin Boren, Dann O'Neill, Elliot Mealer and Steve Schilling like Dash in the Incredibles (click):
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Are white RBs not given a fair shake or are they simply not good enough?
Monday, May 1, 2006

By ADAM ZAGORIA
HERALD NEWS
Editor's Note: This is the fourth in a five-part series on high school football combines, the NCAA-mandated changes about to affect them and their impact on high school athletes.
Wayne Hills running back Ray Van Peenen was named first-team All-State last winter after leading New Jersey in rushing touchdowns and total points scored. Displaying tremendous toughness and an ability to run over defenders, the 5-foot-10, 180-pound Van Peenen led the Patriots to the second of back-to-back North 1, Group 3 championships and is on pace to become the leading scorer in the program's storied history.
"Ray's the best back in the state," Patriots coach Chris Olsen said unequivocally.
Yet as Van Peenen prepares to compete in today's Elite College Combine at the Indoor Sports Pavilion in Randolph, he has just one firm college scholarship offer: from Minnesota. Rutgers, Boston College, Louisville, Temple, Connecticut and others have also expressed interest.
Why is that? Is it because he's too slow? Not tough enough? Not big enough? Or does it have something to do with the fact that Van Peenen is white?
Some experts say yes.
"I really believe that if this Van Peenen kid, for instance, was a different color, he would have 20 offers right now," said Nick Lubischer of EliteRecruits.com, who has been working in the recruiting business for close to a decade and is white. "I really believe that. And I don't blame anybody except the way things have happened over the years.
"If I was a Division I college coach, I would offer him a scholarship. I wouldn't have seen color, but I think a lot of these guys do."
This isn't news to Van Peenen, the 2005 Herald News Offensive Player of the Year. He's heard it before.
"I get it a lot, actually," he said. "It doesn't really bother me. I don't let that stuff bother me because I know how I can play. If they don't recruit me because of that I guess it would be hurting them."
Eric Dickerson, the NFL's all-time single-season rushing leader, dominated with the Los Angeles Rams during the 1980s. Dickerson is on record as saying that white running backs simply can't play on the same level as blacks.
"They can't compete with us," Dickerson told the Orlando Sun Sentinel two years ago. "The black athlete, especially at that position, is faster, more elusive. That's just a position made for agility.
"That's kind of like our chosen position."
Numbers don't lie
As brash as that may sound, statistics are on his side.
Since Craig James ran for 1,227 yards and was voted to the Pro Bowl in 1985, more than 100 NFL running backs have combined for 269 1,000-yard rushing performances over those 20 years. None has been white.
While minorities make up more than 70 percent of the NFL, running back is even more exclusive. In 2003, 98 percent of the NFL's running backs were minorities. When the 2005 NFL season began, none of the 32 teams had a white tailback as a first- or second-teamer.
A white running back hasn't led the NFL in rushing since Green Bay's Jim Taylor ran for 1,474 yards in 1962 or been drafted in the first round since Penn State's John Cappelletti was chosen 11th overall by the Rams in 1974.
SuperPrep recruiting service ranks high school prospects at each position, and as of two years ago, there had been just one white tailback among the nation's elite in the past five seasons. That was Tre Smith, from Venice, Fla., just south of Sarasota, in 2000.
Allen Wallace, the publisher of SuperPrep magazine, acknowledges that this subject is just too taboo for most coaches or recruiting experts to touch.
"I think it's something that a lot of us are just afraid to think about," he said. "In today's overly sensitive world, you can't really bring it up.
"It's just generally understood that most of your running backs are black. And most of them are faster."
While Van Peenen has just the one firm scholarship offer, Malcolm Harris, an accomplished and talented All-Area running back from Paterson Catholic, who is black, already has offers from Maryland, Pittsburgh and Rutgers.
Paterson Catholic coach Benjie Wimberly said Harris will have close to 20 offers by the time he signs, but he thinks Van Peenen is just as talented.
"Regardless of race, he has the skills," Wimberly said. "He has the vision. He's elusive. He's everything you would like in a running back and he looks the role. He has the skills."
If Van Peenen were black, Olsen and others close to the situation feel that he would have many more offers than he currently has.
"Without a doubt," Olsen said.
For further anecdotal evidence, Lubischer and colleague Chris Melvin point to the experience of Anthony Ferla of St. Joseph in Montvale, a running back/defensive back who last season led his team to its seventh straight Non-Public Group 3 championship.
The 5-9, 190-pound Ferla helped his stock tremendously at last year's Elite College Combine, winning the Defensive Back Most Valuable Player award and running impressive times in the 40-yard-dash and the shuttle.
Yet Ferla only received offers from Kansas and Temple, where he will play next season.
"Chris (Melvin) and I can't tell you why," Lubischer said. "If he was an African-American player, would he have gotten more offers? In my opinion, yes."
Added Melvin, who is black: "I have kids who came to our combine last year, Vidal Hazleton who is going to (Southern California), Antwine Perez at USC, they said, 'Well, Ferla can play anywhere.'
"The knock on him was that he was 5-9, 190 pounds. I had one college coach tell me that if he was taller, maybe. But being that he was 5-9, 190, what happened if he puts 10 pounds on, so that was a problem."
St. Joseph coach Tony Karcich agreed that height was Ferla's main issue with recruiters.
"The biggest obstacle he had to overcome was his lack of height," Karcich said. "They like to see a 6-foot kid and he's in that 5-10 range. I think some people backed off because of that."
Karcich also told the story of Ron Girault, whose experience would seem to indicate that even black tailbacks can be hurt by a bad combine performance. Because of poor starting technique, Girault ran a substandard 40-yard dash at a combine, Karcich said.
"And I looked at a bunch of (coaches) and they wrote him off because he didn't break a 4.7," Karcich said. "The whole season I was trying to validate his times by showing films. Thank God for Greg Schiano at Rutgers because he decided to take a shot based on my word."
Girault, a junior, is now a starting safety at Rutgers and finished third on the team in tackles last season.
Hard to recruit a white back
Joe Susan, the recruiting coordinator at Rutgers, said he only looks at a player's talent, along with height and weight, when recruiting. He cited the fact that Rutgers features two-time All-America fullback Brian Leonard, who is white.
"As we evaluate a kid on film, we evaluate his talent, period," Susan said. "To me race is not an issue. If people look at that, then they're making a mistake."
Still, the issue of race is like the elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about it, but it's out there.
Olsen, who has two sons playing on Division I football teams that do not feature prominent white running backs, said he has had college coaching friends of his tell him that, "It's hard for a guy to come back off the road with a white player at that position (running back)."
When asked about the subject two years ago for the story in the Orlando Sun Sentinel, Florida State head coach Bobby Bowden had this to say:
"You go with the best, and it just happens to be there are more minority tailbacks than there are non-minority," said Bowden, who has spent nearly 50 years in the college ranks. "Why? I don't know. There's just more of them. They run better, jump higher.
"God has made every man different. He's even made our races different. There are some races that are smaller than others. There are some races that are taller than others. There are some races, it seems like they have more athletic ability than others. It just seems they (minority tailbacks) have more talent as runners than my race. I think that has something to do with heredity, you know?"
Channeling occurs early
While some say the sheer numbers prove that point, others argue there are several other factors in play, setting up barriers of perception.
"You've got guys in high school, white players, who are discouraged from being wide receivers, defensive backs or running backs -- I think we do have that," Indianapolis Colts coach Tony Dungy told the Sun Sentinel. "It's 'this position is a white position or black position.' I definitely believe they are channeled early on."
Lubischer, who coaches the Shore Pop Warner team, agrees.
"If (Chris Melvin's) son (Chris Jr.) came and lived with me and came and played football, the first thing the coaches around me would say is, 'We got to put him at running back,' " Lubischer said. "Why? Because he's African-American; it's the perception that is seen in our society. And if he was a big white kid, it would be, 'Let's get him on the line.' "
But does this "channeling," also known as "slotting" or "funneling," take place because of racial bias. Is there a lack of white running backs at elite levels because they can't compete? Or does a sifting begin at a low level and wipe out the chance of competition occurring in the first place?
Former Redskins quarterback Doug Williams knows something about stereotypes. In 1988, Williams smashed racial barriers by becoming the first black quarterback to start a Super Bowl. Williams threw four touchdowns against Denver in Super Bowl XXII and was chosen the game's MVP. He'll be the first to say stereotypes are made to be broken.
"A lot of it boils down to athletic ability," Williams, now an executive in the Bucs' pro personnel department, told the Sun Sentinel. "If you have a kid who's been productive who's a black running back and he's running a 4.8 (in the 40-yard dash), and you have a white kid who's been productive who's running a 4.5, make no mistake, the 4.5 is going to be the kid getting the opportunity.
"That's never going to change. Color will have nothing to do with it."
Melvin and Lubischer agree. They think that several white running backs have a chance to open up some eyes at this year's combine. They point to Van Peenen and Vinnie Falkowicz of Brick Memorial as two prime examples.
"They're just special backs," Melvin said. "They bring a lot to the table. Whether they go to a Virginia or a Miami or a Florida State, maybe not. But there's a lot of Division I schools at our combine who are going to take a look at them and say, 'You know what? He is a good ballplayer, maybe we should take a longer look.' "
Reach Adam Zagoria at (973) 569-7156 or zagoria@northjersey.com.
 
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Great Article! Thanks TJR. I think its about time that Leonard and Hass confer with Kevin Curtis and plot a strategy on how to demand an equal playing time and opportunity with current teams or demand a trade to a team that will give them these opportunities. It has to start now and let the media be aware of the racial angles. This will ignite a firestorm and push the owners to wake the WTF up. One only has to ask, who pays for the season tickets-white people. I think once whites see this unfair caste system, they will decide with thier wallets on who gets to play.

Credit has to go to Golic, for exposing this unlike the other talking heads in sports. This is a profile in courage to a degree.
 

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TheEnglishman said:
There is so much evidence it's almost unbelievable
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! That was a laugh of frustration, seeing as the majority of people are completely oblivious to this.

Truthfully I was too until I found this forum. I think it is a matter of getting the message out. MOST DRUNK WHITE FANS ARE OBLIVIOUS TOO THIS; SOME AREN'T, BUT MOST ARE.
 

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Two routes to the NFL
Kansas State's Jordy Nelson and Oklahoma State's Adarius Bowman have caught the eyes of draft analysts.
BY JEFFREY MARTIN
The Wichita Eagle
He insists he'd be happy if he was teaching this time next year, maybe also in the midst of helping some high school team reach the playoffs.
Jordy Nelson said no one is talking to him about the NFL.
"Who?" he asked. "The only thing NFL I've been talked to about is agents -- as in, stay away from them."
Then again, this conversation occurred about three weeks ago, moments after K-State's 41-21 rout of then-No. 7 Texas, a stunner in which Nelson finished with 206 all-purpose yards and two touchdowns. Since then, his "Q" rating has risen -- he's listed on SI.com writer Gene Menez's "Halfway Heisman" list at No. 9 -- and what he says he always considered a dream is close to being reality.
In fact, go ahead and write it down -- Nelson will be drafted.
"If you go into college football, you're wanting to play and you're wanting to make it to the next level," he said. "If not, I don't know what you're doing here. It's a lot of work to not enjoy it and continue playing football.
"If you have love for the game, it's something I think everyone is going to shoot for."
On Saturday, though, he might be the lesser of two NFL prospects at the position. Oklahoma State's Adarius Bowman is bigger, probably more physical and, as the NFL personnel will inevitably insist, faster than Nelson.
How they'd be certain of this is unknown.
"I don't know how fast he is," K-State coach Ron Prince said of Nelson following the UT drubbing. "No one ever catches him, though."
Which is more or less what Nelson also told the Austin American-Statesman: "I'm fast enough that I don't get caught."
Meanwhile, we know how fast Bowman is.
According to ESPN's Scouts Inc., the 6-foot-3 ½, 225-pound wide receiver covers 40 yards in 4.48 seconds.
Nelson is listed as an inch shorter and about 12 pounds lighter, but he has to run a 4.5, doesn't he?
Granted, this was four years ago, but Nelson set Kansas Class 3A track records in the 100 meters (10.63 seconds) and the 200 (21.64). Just as a gauge, and this is in no way a direct comparison between Nelson and arguably the most electric player in the NFL, but Chicago's Devin Hester ran a wind-aided 10.42 in the preliminaries of the 100 at the Big East outdoor championships as a freshman at Miami in 2004.
What does that mean? Not much.
Bowman is No. 27 on Scouts Inc.' s list of the top 32 draft-eligible prospects.
Nelson? He's considered a seventh-round selection but rising, according to nfldraftscout.com.
Plus, in terms of actual production, and not projection, he has Bowman beaten.
His numbers are 56 receptions for 727 yards and three touchdowns. Bowman has 44 catches for 721 yards and six touchdowns, but Nelson has notched his in only six games as opposed to Bowman's seven.
Nevertheless, Bowman's coach, Mike Gundy, said a couple of weeks ago his star receiver, who was listed as the Big 12's top NFL prospect in the Sporting News College Football 2007 preview, was having a better season this year than the last.
He reiterated that again Monday.
" (Bowman) is the best player I've seen in 21 years of playing without the ball in his hands," Gundy said. "He leads the team in knockdowns. He'll make that dirty money (blocking). He plays extremely hard without the ball, and he plays with great effort all of the time. That's what he brings to the table. He challenges (his teammates) to play as hard as he does."
Gundy is trumpeting Bowman's blocking, a quality that makes any wide receiver more attractive. Nelson blocks well, too, and he's a special teams ace, too.
And what about hands, perhaps the most vital asset a receiver must possess?
The OSU coach said Bowman has cut down considerably on his drops, which plagued the junior a season ago. As for Nelson....
"All you have to do is throw it anywhere near Jordy and he'll catch it," K-State quarterback Josh Freeman said.
There is the injury factor -- Nelson was hobbled for most of his junior season with an ailing knee -- but he played through the pain, which proved his toughness and actually might elevate him on some teams' draft boards.
Still, the difference between being a first-day selection (rounds 1-3) and being chosen on the second day will likely hinge on what the stopwatches read when Nelson runs the 40 for a set of curious NFL personnel eyes at K-State's senior day during the spring.
So, how fast is Jordy Nelson?
Ask Kansas cornerback Aqib Talib, a preseason Playboy All-American, for the answer. Nelson torched Talib for a 68-yard touchdown in the Jayhawks' 30-24 triumph in Manhattan, a feat to which the Riley County native simply shrugged when asked about afterward.
It's the same reaction he seems to have about being paid to play football.
"If it happens, it happens," Nelson said. "If it doesn't, I'll move on."
He's majoring in secondary education. Call it a semi-informed hunch, but Nelson is probably going to have to wait a bit before he uses that degree.
Jeffrey Martin covers Kansas State sports. Reach him at 316-269-6763 or jmartin@wichitaeagle.com.
 

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Alright, I am going to rank the top 5 articles on this list that TorontoArgos might want to include in his argument against the drunken white idiot fans. I will put a number 1 through 5 in front of my favorite articles that diagram the reality of the caste system in sports.


Toronto Argos, I would also include Jordy Nelson in your arguments using the last article. There is no reason at all that Jordy should be #19 on the NFLdraftscout.com WR rankings. He has the best stats of any draft eligible receiver in division one. Jordy has great speed as indicated by the above article, great hands and he has only been playing WR for 2 years so he has huge upside.



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Here's another good quote from the Orlando Sentinel

"The best running back in Central Florida this season is Seminole High's Kevin Harris, who is white. He committed recently to Wake Forest because it was one of two Division I-A schools that promised him a shot purely at tailback. Mick Harris, Kevin's father and the coach at Seminole, said that during the recruiting process, "One recruiter just plain told me, 'Coach, I could never bring back a white running back to my university.' I just kind of looked at him, and he said, 'That's just the way it is. They just wouldn't accept it.' So I think it is there. I think there is a perception. But I don't think it's because there is a prejudice against a white running back. I just think it is because of the overwhelming number of black running backs in the NFL and college."

Tampa Bay's Mike Alstott, who has become one of the NFL's premier fullbacks, was told by recruiters while he was in high school that he had to bulk up and switch to that position if he wanted to run the ball for the various Big Ten schools that were recruiting him. Alstott was the top-rated prep back in Chicago.
"Really, no one was interested in me playing tailback," says Alstott, who was a 6-foot, 205-pound senior when college teams began asking him to switch to fullback.
"People look at it, 'If you're white, you can't be a tailback. You got to be a fullback,' " says former Pittsburgh Steelers fullback Merril Hoge, who was a tailback in college at Idaho. "When I was in the NFL, I had a coach tell me, 'I can't have a white guy leading our team in rushing.' Whether that was a joke or not, what does that tell you?"

It says there's a stigma. Take Kevin Harris, who rushed for 1,179 yards and nine touchdowns last season as a junior at Winter Springs, then padded his résumé this summer with one of the best workouts at the Nike prep combine in Miami (fourth among 30 running-back prospects, he said).
"I've had a lot of people tell me that if I was black, I'd probably have a lot more looks," Harris says. "There have been a few coaches from other high schools and stuff like that. They ask me about some schools recruiting me: 'What do they want you to play?' And then I tell them linebacker, and they're like, 'They have got to be out of their minds. If you were a black kid, you'd be on the front of all the magazines.' I get a lot of that."
But apparently little respect as a tailback.


Here's some more evidence of recruiting bias from Steve Sailer's blog:

"white 400m sprinter Andrew Rock won a gold medal as one of the six members of the US 4x400m relay team, but ran for a Div. III college because nobody would give him a scholarship. White 400m gold medalist Jeremy Wariner did get a scholarship to Baylor -- when you are that fast, your race can't slow you down."
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ToughJ, do you have links to the articles you posted?
 

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Thanks ToughJRiggins!!! Maybe this thread can be reference for all MSM articles (as well as the JB Cash excerpts). I'll be sure to have these readily available for SuperBowl Sunday, just in case I find myself in the presence of a drunk white fan.
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Good articles TJR. Funny thing is I was just starting to compile articles of that nature a couple days ago. The Orlando Sentinel article you mentioned (which Zagoria's article borrows very GENEROUSLY from) is an outstanding source in its entirety. It can be found here. Part 2 of the article (not as good) can be found here. I've also mentioned this article before as well. It's quite lengthy and does not really talk about football. However, it is written by a black author who argues that white underachieving in athletics is largely a psychological issue (learned helplessness, self-fulfilling prophecy, etc).
 
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