Caste Sports on a Personal Level

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  1. Tired old White

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    My grand son who is 12 decided to go out for track at his middle school. He wanted to run the 100 meters. He will not get the opportunity. Not because he lost his heat in atry out. He was not allowed to try out for his chosen event. Which by the way his P. E. teacher had encouraged him to try out for. The track coach who is black told him he was not suitable for the 100 meters and should try out for a distance 400 or longer without ever seeing him run. The PE teaches clocked him at 13.83 ( hand held stop watch) is this fast, slow or average for a 12 year middle school skid. I never ran track so do not really know ( in my day it would have been the 100 yard dash anyway. I would not be upset he he did not get slected on the basis of he ran and was beaten by faster athelees of whatever race, but I think the coach saw his pale skin and blue eyes and made a race based decision. I really would appreciate some feed back on that time.
     
  2. white lightning

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    That is a good time for a young kid with no training.Ask yourself this,why would the PE Teacher tell him to try out if he didn't think that the boy had some talent?I would go personally talk to the track coach myself and inquire as to why he can't be allowed a chance to compete.If he fails,then he can try a longer distance.That coach had no right to not allow him the opportunity.
     
  3. white tornado

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    That would be pretty darn good time for a 12 year old.
     
  4. white is right

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    Its below the average time of about 14 to 15 seconds for that age group. But it's not a special time that's about 12 seconds. That doesn't mean that your grandson can't represent his school though. I recall in junior high the best sprinter in my school who was ethnic Chinese(could have been a Liu) ran that and he smoked everybody. Now did this same teacher have biases based on racial assumptions. Let's face it there might be one student in a major metropolitan area that can make a state final(if the state is a large one). So for this PE teacher to expect one in his junior high is ridiculous, unless your grandson showed tremendous stamina or is really slim to expect him to move up to the 400 meters or beyond.
     
  5. Tired old White

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    No his PE teacher was merely encourging him to try out.

    I do know he was the fastest of the approximately 30 boys in his class. What I am really upset about is that track coach made a decision that was not based on any data from actually having timed him in a run. Also remember the 13.83 seconds was in sweats and tennis shoes with out satrting blocks from a kid who has never ran a 100 meter dash. etc. Like I said in original post . If he had been given an oppurtunity to try out and eliminated in fair competition I would have no complaint. One way to control who succeeds is to control who gets to compete.
     
  6. Kaptain

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    If he is the fastest sprinter in his class he should be a sprinter. I would ask the coach why - see if you get a racial answer or one that actually makes sense.
    12 years old is a little early to pigeon hole any kid. When I was that age I was the shortest person on my small farm school BB team. Despite having skills, I didn't get to play much. That coaching decision didn't work out as a great move for our BB team as I can still outplay anybody on that team to this day. I did work out for wrestling team though. [​IMG]
     
  7. DixieDestroyer

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    ToW, you definitely need to encourage your son/daughter to confront this track coach about making this biased decision without having even timed your grandson in the 100. You shouldn't allow this caste-system perpetrator to get away with this BS.While 13.8 isn't blazing, it's still better than average for 12 years old. Also, he should have two years before high-school to develop his strength, technique & shave his time down. That half@$$ coach definitely needs to be held accoutable.
     
  8. white tornado

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    Id say 11 seconds flat is a real good time around the country for high school track and field. A twele year old has a long way to go just to get to puberty. With good training and natural development theres no reason why he ca'nt shave three two to three seconds of that time.
     
  9. Tired old White

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    I did confront the coach and his answer was that he only let boys who played RB and WR or DB positions on the football team run in the sprints.He is also the football coach ( all black squad , surprise, surprise, surprise). So what I did was I signed the kid up with a private Track and Field club that has had kids compete on the regional and national JR. Olympic level. But just for fun I took it to the Supt. of Schools along with a print out of the time from Jr. O 11-12 yr olds 100 meter time for the 2006 natoinals.
    My Grand son would have finished 36 out of 40 kids with the 13.83. But still this is 40 of fastest 11-12 yr olds in the country.
     
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    Encouraging him to compete in that club is good, and I'm glad you took it to a higher level as well as confronted the coach about it.That was some typicallogic from that Caste-garden tool/coach.
     
  11. White Shogun

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    So basically you have to be a two sport athlete to compete in the sprints in track. Wonder if he'd say the same if a skinny, fast black kid came in who's momma wouldn't let him play football.

    There's no reason a kid should be prevent from even trying out for a sport or event, regardless of anything else. He should be given the opportunity.

    Typical bullsh*t.

    Let us know what the superintendent has to say about it.
     
  12. Alpha Male

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    That is blatant discrimination. I have never heard of a track coach only letting football players sprint. That's ridiculous!!!

    Good move on the private track club. He will get better coaching there. I have started training with a private track club for indoor competition and am training for the 60M.
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  13. JD074

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    Exactly. Caste System in a nutshell.
     
  14. JD074

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    That's enormously unfair.

    Very proactive! Good for you![​IMG]
     
  15. white is right

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    Never heard of that in my life. So if the kid was skinny and didn't like combat he can't become a sprinter. Sounds like the coach had a pat answer for the situation. I didn't realize that your grandson was still in grammar school that time is fast for that age. I assumed that he was in grade 7. The times I quoted before was for the grade 7 to 8 range(my memories are fuzzy but the 12.X by the guy who ran in my gym class stuck out).
     
  16. Tired old White

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    The Superintendant gave me a canned diversity is our strength speech( he is a tpical testicaless white bureacraut ) I pointed out that only having black atheletes did not promote diversity. I also pointed out that the acamdemic teams. ( Yes thank God we have those) have spots reserved for blacks an hispanics,the asian neither want nor need a quota. The kicker on this is one of my foster kids competed and and won the third slot for the design team on merit and despite the fact she is technically black 1/16-1/64 her placement on the team did not go agaisnt the 4 resereved spots for blacks, squad hs 5 two person teams. I really feel for a white kid who wants to play football at this school. Unfortuneately there are no private football clubs available.Edited by: Tired old White
     
  17. Robert

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    I'd love to see a bureaucrat such as the one you encountered make a profound speech on individual achievement instead of some dreary diversity is God diatribe.
     

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