All White Vs All Black

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  1. voice

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    Hey Guys

    I was thinking about who would win the All White Vs All Black NBA all star contest. I would put my money on the all white team

    Starters
    Steve Nash-PG
    Peja Stoyakovic-SG
    Andrei Kirilenko-SF
    Dirk Nowitzki-PF
    Paul Gasol-C

    Reserves at each position
    Manu Ginobilli-SG
    Kirk Henrich -PG
    Mehmet Okur-SF/PF
    Jake Tsakalidis C /bruiser 7'2" 320 to hack a shack
    Jeff Foster-PF/C top per minute rebounder in NBA
    Andres Nocioni - SF
    Wally Szerbiak-SG

    There is my twelve. I cannot even see any black man even starting!! Maybe Lebron James at the 2 but that is where I would draw the line, but I would only do that on Raw Talent not basketball ability and meshing with cohesive team unit.

    We could play any style we wanted but would probably have to put Foster in if we wanted to slow it down(over Gasol)

    What is really startling for me when I look at this, all of our players are the most agile/athletic players in the league

    Foster/Gasol are most athletic centers
    Dirk is most all around PF -centering around athleticism, pure basketball skill(shooting,rebounding and dribbling as a 7 footer!)

    Manu Ginobilli is the 2nd most athletic 2 in NBA(Lebron I would have to give it him)..the only guys

    Nash is without argument at all

    Kirilenko is arguably the most athletic SF in NBA.

    I don't think even pundits would argue with this. It just goes to prove, whites have to be the best players at their position in the NBA to even get in the league!!!!!!!!!
     
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    lebron james, dwayne wade, kobe bryant, tim duncan, ron artest, jason kidd, tony parker, amare stoudimire, shawn marion, ray allen, elton brand, tj ford, micheal redd.


    i could come up with three teams. to compete with you team. pushing it with foster, peja, wally, henrich.
     
  3. Gary

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    Why don't we just bring over the Italian or Lithuanian teams,you know the ones that beat the nightmare team in the olympics!!
     
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    bring them on. they won't win again.
     
  5. Gary

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    Of Course they will win and then ask for Team Africa to send a hockey team or swimming team or weightlifting team so they can WIN THAT TOO!!!
     
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    nope. just a basketball, soccer,track team will be enough. theus will win the gold in basketball.
     
  7. Gary

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    When will the US win in Basketball-give me a year?Soccer? Are you kidding the European nations/South American nations win at Soccer-not Africa [​IMG] Track-the black boys being so skinny might win some running events BUT what about the Javelin,Discus,Shot Put,Pole Vault,ETC. The White Brothers never lose those events. How about tapdancing or petty theft-you could take the gold in those events!
     
  8. white lightning

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    If you had an all white team,you could not leave off the many legends of the past.Guys like B.Petit,R.Barry,J.Havlicek,B.Cousy,Pistol Pete Maravich,Jerry West,John Stockton,D.Schempf,T.Chambers,etc.etc.We have so many guys that we could add.Guys that are scorers,rebounders,shot blockers.I just wanted to add some of these guys but obviously the list could go on and on with white legends too!
     
  9. white lightning

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    Let me add a quick note.John Stockton is not only the all time assists leader,he blew away M.Johnson,but he also he is all time steals leader.If that isn't one of the best players of all time,I don't know what is.They were so close to two championships.The Utah Jazz were always in the playoffs but unfortunatley didn't quite get over the hump.Regardless,Stockton,& Malone will both be Hall of Famers.
     
  10. Bunnyman

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    The U.S. will never win a gold in basketball until it ends the anti-white racism so apparent in putting together the national team.

    Notice our "guest" doesn't even try to talk nonsense about boxing or any physical combat sport anymore.

    Remember guest, who owns who in fighting sports?
     
  11. voice

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    It would be silly for me to say you couldn't field a good team, but it would be so selfish and disorganized that the white man would beat you senseless.

    Kobe would be arguing with Shaq about who is the best brother on the team. Vince Carter would claim he can jump higher than Kobe. Shaq would bitch-slap Lebron because he wouldn't wear his shoes. Artest would have to get a special contract so he could work on his rap albums. You get the picture-black man's chaotic world.
    [​IMG]


    I wouldn't let you have Tony Parker/Jason Kidd as they would have to play for the mixed breed team. They still have too much white man in them, although they would still be forbid from dating any white woman. The rule would be the blacks couldn't be first generation mixed breeds-i.e. white mom-black dad.

    That would hurt you as I can't think of any active black pure point guards that are any good-don't tell me Francis, Marbury and Iverson because they have proven they suck. The best you could come up with is a Chauncey Billups.

    If we were really going to honest and fair about the whole thing, we couldn't let you have any white coaches. I wouldn't let you have white assistants whispering in the brothers ear what to do next either-that would be cheating.

    Also, I would be open to negotiation whether or not you would get white mans' technology-anything motorized(whirlpool, planes to get to the game etc) or high tech basketball shoes(or should I say any shoes for that matter) or any whitemans' manmade materials etc.

    I would let you have drums though as I think that was available in sub-saharan africa. [​IMG]

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  12. JoeV

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    Why not Ilgauskus at the 5?
     
  13. whiteCB

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    Yeah Illguaskas is way better than Jeff Foster. I mean come on Z has made 2 all star games while Foster isn't even good enough to attend the game in the stands.
     
  14. voice

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    I must admit I forgot about Illguskas. He is the better all around player but I would still like to have Foster as a rebounding and defensive machine
     
  15. white lightning

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    Mike Miller would be another great addition to the team.A.Bogut would be in another year of 2 as he develops.We also forgot about Darko Milicic who is a stud who improves every game.Also after the draft we could add countless players like Morrison,Reddick,etc.
     
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    Of course,We all know,just how fair the black team would play, how much sportsmanship ,and respect,and how well they would behave before,during and after the game....don't We?

    Especially,if they were to lose....[​IMG] Edited by: Weltner
     
  17. Jimmy Chitwood

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    i would change your line-up myself, but i can't believe you left off Chris Kaman! statistically, he is the third best starting center in the NBA. he's tough, athletic, skilled, and aggressive. and, of course, incredibly under-rated.

    he just has a bad haircut. [​IMG]
     
  18. KG2422

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    I like his haircut. He looks like a badass 7ft. Viking.
     
  19. white tornado

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    Starters
    Steve Nash-PG
    Manu Ginobilli-SG
    Andrei Kirilenko-SF/SG
    Dirk Nowitzki-PF
    Kris Cayman-C

    Reserves

    Kirk Henrich -PG/SG
    Mike Miller-SG
    Peja Stoyakovic-SF
    Andres Nocioni - SF
    Paul Gasol-C/PF
    Darko Milicic-C
    Zydrunis Ilgauskus-C
    Brad Miller-C
     
  20. Jimmy Chitwood

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    that would be my starting line-up, as well. and your bench looks pretty good, too. although, i would drop the Big Z in favor of another PF who can run the floor: the young guy up in Seattle, Nick Collison. i like his game a lot. he's a scrapper with a nice mid-range game!
     
  21. white tornado

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    I'd keep Big Z because he's the best center when playing the game at a slow pace. With dirk and Pau there would not be many extra minutes to go around at power forward.
     
  22. ToughJ.Riggins

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    Mystarting12 to give the white guys the
    best chance to win taking into account team chemistry not necessarily
    all the best white players:
    PG- Steve Nash-best playmaker in the NBA and can score,although only an average defender
    SG- Manu Ginobili-The only 2 w/ more athleticism is Wade possibly Kobe, high FG%, great passer and defender.
    SF- Andrei Kirilenko-1st team NBA defender
    PF-
    Dirk Nowitzki-Always shoots high FG% and is a go to scorer, now an
    adequate defender with a good post-up game.Probably outdoes Duncan and Garnett, for best PF
    in the league.
    PF/C-Andreis Beidreins-This newbee is looking
    like one of thebest centers in the league and he can
    score.An unbelievable stat filler and rebounder, appears to be a
    great athlete who also is shooting one of the best FG%'s in the league.

    Bench:

    PG- Kirk Heinrich-Great passer/ good defender w/
    basketball smarts a good stat filler, Stls, low TO, good rebounder for
    a PG he has a knack for scoring key baskets.

    SG- Wally Szerbiak-The most underrated player in the NBA

    SG/SF- Brent Barry- Has always shotin the upper
    40's FG% and is a great 3 Pt. shooter, a great athlete and defender
    whoshould be starting over Bowen in SA.I'd put him
    inplace of Gasol sincewe already have
    Dirk.
    PF-David Lee- A great defender. McDonalds all American
    Dunk contest winner, if given minutes might be the top rebounder in the
    league. He can also knock down the short range shots and take it with
    authority to the hoop, he is currently shooting 63% from the
    feild.


    C-Andrew Bogut- an above average defender who rebounds pretty
    well and shoots a high FG%. He is currently shooting over 50%. He is
    also very young and is rapidly improving!

    C-Nenad Krstic-Another adequete defender off the
    bench to contain Shaq, Duncan, Garnett, Boozer, who can also
    score points

    SG/SF-Mike Miller-another very underrated player

    I'd
    be willing to bet 4 out of 5 contests the white guys win with
    international Offensive foul rules. With these rules Shaq wouldn't get
    away with his usual offensive foul B.S and foul out after about 25 good
    minutes. We'll let em keep the NBA key size. I'd be willing to bet
    that FG % wise the white guys would mostly have the advantage,
    and good shot selection is important on a team of stars. I'd be worried
    about Wade though the guy is unbelievable, and quite a team player, Dito
    Lebron















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  23. white tornado

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    This would be my roster of 15 if I was making an all white team. This team includes players not in the n.b.a. and is made up of the best players right now and players I think will be the best with in the next year.


    Starters


    Steve Nash-PG6-3 195 lbs. Best point guard in the world

    Manu Ginobilli-SG6-6 205 lbs. Would have the toughest match up going against Kobe and Wade but would be up for the challenge as long as he's playing at his best.

    Andrei Kirilenko-SF/SG 6-9 227 lbs. His defense and all around play would be a major key to victory.

    Dirk Nowitzki-PF 7-1 245 lbs. Best big man on earth.

    Andris Biedrins -C/F Young player is playing great D and shooting a high percentage.

    Reserves


    Kirk Henrich -PG/SG 6-3 190 lbs. One of the games best point guards plays lock down defense.

    Marco Belinelli-G 6-5 Guard from Italy scored 25 points against team U.S.A. and is only 20 years old. He's got a nasty outside shot and is a good athlete.

    Chase Budinger-G 6-7 190 lbs. Great a athlete with will be a future N.B.A. star.

    Peja Stojakovic-G/F 6-10 229 lbs. Designated sharp shooter off the bench.

    Andres Nocioni - F 6-7 225 lbs. Plays with great passion but also is a great spot up shooter, and all around athlete.

    David Lee -F 6-9 249 lbs. Great athlete would provide needed rebounding.

    Tyler Hansbrough-PF 6-8 245 lbs. Beast in the paint.

    Mehmet Okur -C/F 6-11 263 lbs. Great out side shooter who has good all around game, posses a big mismatch to most big men.

    Darko Milicic-C 7-0 275 lbs. Great defender needs to stop trying to be Dirk Nowitzki and play in the post more like Tim Duncan.

    Nenad Krstic -C 7-0 260 lbs. Great low post scorer.


    Players who almost made the team were Josh McRoberts, Rudy Fernandez, Zaza Paculia, Andrew Bogut, Big Z, Wally Szczerbiak, Luke Ridnour, and Josh Heytvelt.

    As soon as Pau Gasol returns to full health he becomes my starting center and I drop Krstic.
     
  24. ToughJ.Riggins

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    I like your lineup including the
    future NBA stars. I don't know
    much about Italian SG Marco Belinelli but 6'8
    Hansborough could end up being a
    Elton Brand type player. Like Brand he
    is an absolutley dominant scorer and rebounder
    in college despite below average height
    for the PF position. And I hope the scouts cut it
    with this he's not athletic enough BS. He's more athletic than 6'9 Karl
    Malone and look how good he was. Scouts should start paying more
    attention to college production which can tell you alot about
    athleticism in itself. I'm not saying he'll be as good as Malone in the
    pros, but you never know!



    And SG Chase Budinger will be awesome if given a chance he has a 40
    inch plus verticle according to NBAdraft.net but more importantly can
    shoot !
     
  25. white lightning

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    Tyler Hansborough can do a 360 degree dunk.I have seen him do it.How is that not athletic.The media are morons.Tyler will eventually be an NBA ALL STAR like Chase if they go to the right teams.By that,I mean a team that will actually not be afraid to start them and give them 35 minutes a night of playing time.
     

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