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For posters or lurkers that don't understand recruiting corruption in college football ESPN has a documentary on Marcus Dupree called The Best That Never Was. Watch it and find out that this isn't something new. Here is the latest on this soap opera....Attorney: John Bond talks to FBI

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An attorney for the former Mississippi State player who helped spark the NCAA's investigation of Auburn quarterback Cam Newton says his client has been interviewed by the FBI.

Phil Abernethy wrote in an e-mail Tuesday that John Bond met with federal and state investigators and "cooperated fully with both agencies."

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Abernethy says Bond would have no further comment because of the "ongoing nature" of the investigation. The FBI has declined comment.

Bond, a former Mississippi State quarterback, told MSU officials in January he had been asked for $180,000 by a former teammate in exchange for Newton's commitment to the Bulldogs. The man was later identified by ESPN.com as Kenny Rogers.

Rogers is expected to be interviewed by the NCAA, according to his attorney Doug Zeit.

Newton's father, Cecil, was accused last week by Rogers, a former Mississippi State player who has worked for a Chicago-based agent, of asking for anywhere from $100,000 to $180,000 for his son to sign a letter of intent with Mississippi State. According to an NCAA spokeswoman, "the solicitation of cash or benefits by a prospective student-athlete or another individual on his or her behalf is not allowed under NCAA rules."

Friday, Mississippi State athletic director Scott Stricklin acknowledged in a statement that the school "was approached with an offer to provide an extra benefit" and that the school refused.

Auburn has contended that Newton is an "eligible student-athlete" in light of reports that Rogers, acting on behalf of Cecil Newton, told two Mississippi State representatives -- Bond and Bill Bell -- that it would take money to get Newton to play at their school. Newton played in last Saturday's win over Georgia.

ESPN.com reported on Nov. 4 that a man who said he represented Newton allegedly was soliciting a six-figure payment to secure the quarterback's signature on a national letter of intent.

At the time, Bond told ESPN.com that a teammate at Mississippi State in the early 1980s contacted him soon after Newton's official visit to Mississippi State during the Ole Miss game last season, and said he was representing Newton. That man was identified as Rogers, who played at Mississippi State from 1982 to '85.

Rogers denied talking to Bond. Bond told ESPN.com last week: "My story hasn't changed. I absolutely talked with Kenny Rogers, and there are phone records that will show that." Last Thursday, Rogers told ESPN 103.3 in Dallas that he had left a message for Bell, telling Bell he was with Cecil Newton, who wanted to know whether the deal was going to happen.

Bell, contacted Thursday night by ESPN.com, confirmed Cecil Newton did ask for money in exchange for Cam Newton to sign with Mississippi State. Bell said he was contacted by the NCAA about the matter and spoke to an investigator earlier this week.

"That's all I want to say about it at this point," Bell said.

Mississippi State notified the Southeastern Conference of the reported offer in January. It followed up with more information in July.

Bond said last Friday that he will meet with the FBI. When asked why the meeting was necessary, Bond said, "They don't want people shopping children around for thousands of dollars."

Information from The Associated Press and ESPN.com's Pat Forde, Mark Schlabach and Chris Low is included in this report.
 

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Wow this has more plot twists than a season of Dallas...
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Here is the latest from ESPN....Bell: Texts set Cam Newton payments

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Bill Bell, a Mississippi State booster and former player at the school, told the NCAA he received a text message from a man claiming to represent Cam Newton's father that outlined a payment plan designed to bring the quarterback to the Bulldogs.

Bell said former teammate Kenny Rogers told him Cecil Newton wanted money for his son to play at Mississippi State.

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Bell told ESPN.com he also shared a series of voice mail messages from Rogers with the NCAA last week. Bell said Cecil Newton never specifically asked him for money, but that Newton was present during three-way calls in which Rogers discussed a pay-for-play scheme.

Bell said he told the NCAA that Rogers sent him a text message outlining a payment schedule. Bell said the text included a request for $80,000 the day after Cam Newton signed with Mississippi State, $50,000 30 days after that and another $50,000 30 days later.

"When he asked for it, it was like 'Bam!'" Bell said. "He told me this kid's dad is going to want money and the next day he sent me a text message. He didn't say anything other than 'This is what I want and I want it in three installments.'"

Bell said he kept Rogers' text message on his old cell phone, which was damaged by water, but he is currently trying to retrieve the text message through his cell service provider.

Bell also said he has recordings of several voice mail messages from Rogers, which he played for NCAA investigators.

"[Cecil Newton] didn't come out and say, 'I want $180,000,'" Bell said. "He inferred it and talked about it, but not directly. Kenny would talk about it in front of him, and [Cecil Newton] never corrected him or said, 'No, that's not what we're doing.'"

Bell said the initial contact to him was made by Rogers, who played football with Bell in college. But Bell, a Florida businessman, said he also had several conversations with Cecil Newton during his son's recruitment.

"He said it was going to take more than just a relationship with [Mississippi State coach] Dan Mullen and that Cam's relationship with Mullen wasn't what Mullen thought it was," Bell said. "That's when he said, 'Dan Mullen is going to have to put a smile on my face if he thinks he's going to get my son.'"

Bell said the reason he's providing details of the alleged scheme is because he wants to make sure everybody knows Mississippi State didn't break NCAA rules during its recruitment of Cam Newton, who has emerged as the Heisman Trophy front-runner in his first season at Auburn.

Rogers' attorney, Douglas Zeit, told ESPN.com on Wednesday: "As I understand it, that was the payment plan Cecil Newton was seeking."

Zeit said he did not know whether Cecil Newton participated in three-way calls with Rogers and Bell, but added, "I believe [Newton] was insistent the calls be made" seeking payment. Zeit confirmed that his client met Tuesday with NCAA enforcement representative Jackie Thurnes in person to discuss the Newton case. He said NCAA enforcement rep Marcus Wilson also participated in the interview via telephone.

Zeit said he also has been contacted by the office of Mississippi Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann seeking an interview with Rogers, but that hasn't happened yet.

No one answered the telephone at Cecil Newton's home in Atlanta on Wednesday.

Last Thursday, Rogers told ESPN 103.3 radio in Dallas that Cecil Newton told him it would take "anywhere between $100,000 and $180,000" for his son to play at Mississippi State.

Rogers said that on Nov. 28, 2009, he and Cecil Newton followed each other out of Starkville, Miss., after the Ole Miss-Mississippi State game. He said Newton asked him: "What do you think is going to happen? You think it's going to go through?"

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He said it was going to take more than just a relationship with Dan Mullen and that Cam's relationship with Mullen wasn't what Mullen thought it was. That's when he said, 'Dan Mullen is going to have to put a smile on my face if he thinks he's going to get my son.'
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Rogers said he was referred to Bell. Rogers said he left Bell a message telling him he was with Cecil Newton, who wanted to know if the deal was going to happen.

Auburn has contended that Newton is an "eligible student-athlete." Newton played in Auburn's 49-31 victory over Georgia last week.

NCAA spokeswoman Stacey Osburn declined to discuss the specifics of the Newton allegations, but said in general that solicitation of benefits by a student-athlete's family is an NCAA violation. Osburn said the potential penalties for such a violation depend on multiple factors, including the "level of the benefit" being sought and the level of responsibility of the student-athlete.

Osburn said that if a university is not deemed culpable in such an instance, "then it is only a student-athlete eligibility issue." If a violation did occur and the athlete is ruled ineligible, he could appeal for reinstatement.

Osburn said the NCAA handles a high volume of eligibility cases -- "about 2,000 requests a year" -- but they are prioritized based on the next competition for the athlete in question. Since Newton is in the middle of his season, any potential reinstatement case involving him would be expedited.

Bell is the second former Mississippi State player who told ESPN.com that Newton's father was involved in soliciting money in November 2009.

John Bond, who played quarterback at Mississippi State on the same teams with Bell and Rogers, told ESPN.com last week that Rogers also contacted him about an alleged pay-for-play scheme. Bell and Bond have both talked with NCAA investigators, and Bond met Tuesday with FBI officials.

Rogers, whose relationship with Chicago-based agent Ian Greengross is under investigation by the NFL Players Association, was interviewed for several hours by NCAA investigators in Chicago on Tuesday.

Zeit told USA Today on Wednesday that Rogers made it clear that if anybody broke NCAA rules, it was Cecil Newton.

"Nobody's pointing a finger at Mississippi State for doing anything wrong," Zeit told USA Today. "And Kenny has said, 'I had no discussion with Auburn regarding Cam Newton or anybody affiliated with him.' He said, 'I don't know if Auburn has or has not done anything wrong.' He's not pointing a finger at them."

Instead, according to Zeit, Rogers was "pointing a finger direct squarely at the father."

Bell said he called Bond, his close friend, soon after Rogers asked him for money, and Bond informed Mississippi State officials of the pay-for-play scheme. Bell said he was told to stop talking to Cecil Newton and Rogers. Bell said he never talked to Cam Newton during the quarterback's recruitment.

"I've never been involved in paying anything for a player," Bell said. "I'm not that big of a booster. I told Kenny that Coach Mullen was personally handling the recruitment of Cam Newton and no one was going to pay them any money. Kenny said, 'Well, how about $100,000?'"

Newton, a junior from College Park, Ga., has led the No. 2 Tigers to an 11-0 record going into their showdown against Alabama (No. 11 BCS, No. 10 AP) in the Nov. 26 Iron Bowl in Tuscaloosa, Ala. Auburn will play No. 17 South Carolina in the Dec. 4 SEC championship game in Atlanta's Georgia Dome and can probably reach the Jan. 10 BCS National Championship Game in Glendale, Ariz., by winning two more games.

Friday, Mississippi State athletic director Scott Stricklin acknowledged in a statement that the school "was approached with an offer to provide an extra benefit" and that the school refused.

Bell said Auburn's recruitment of Cam Newton was never discussed in any of his conversations with Cecil Newton and that he had no knowledge of any improprieties involving the Tigers.

Bell said he didn't even know who Cam Newton was when Rogers initially contacted him and that it was the first time he'd talked to Rogers since their playing days at Mississippi State.

"It was probably three phone calls or so before Kenny said, 'They're going to want money,'" Bell recalled. "It just seemed like he didn't know what he was doing, like it was the first time he'd ever done something like that. I really believe it was Mr. Newton asking Kenny to do it. I don't think it was Kenny's idea."

Mark Schlabach, Chris Low and Pat Forde cover college football for ESPN.com.
 

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I thought you guys might be interested in how to do the "Dougie", courtesy of Cam himself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHw7cAI9CwU

It must not of been "study night" for this "student"-afflete.

I saw Caste clown extraordinaire, Skip "Gaymore", trying this on BSPN while seated and justifiably ridiculed by the local news announcers on the station I saw it on. Soon, DWFs everywhere will be trying to imitate their new hero as I'm sure it will become the next "dance" craze.

From the Waltz to the "Dougie"...gotta love "progress" and "evolution".
 

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From all of the stories of guys who have started out in a similar trajectory who has redeemed themselves? There is too much smoke around this guy for him to not be a potential major screw up when he truly earns money. The only guys I can ever think of that saved themselves were guys that went to jail ended up homeless and learned from their mistakes.
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</div><div>Bro, this is one of those prototypical CF instances where racial pride tends to subconsciouslyimpede better judgement. I'm a Kellen Moore fan too (obviously), but I'm not going to feign indignation at a couple of stupid things some other18 year old kid did his freshman year, and proclaim his life to be over just because he's getting too much shine, or so my guy can have a better chance at the Heisman. To infer that someone on his "trajectory" would have to go to jail to learn from their mistakes isridiculous. Every report calls him a bright and engaging kid who hasn't done ANYTHING as of late. His knows his exile to Football Siberia, a.k.a. Blinn College, could have finished him off, so by allappearances, he straightened hisship. Ibelievethat experience was humbling enough.</div><div>
</div><div>It wasn't humbling enough for his Dad, tho.. lol.</div>
 

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Was Colt Brennan done after his teenage felony convictions?
<div></div><div>Wow, I just mentioned Colt Brennan last week.  Hope he pulls through.</div><div></div><div>http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5827047</div>

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Colonel_Reb said:
Sounds like the sharks are starting to circle in. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed on Auburn getting the "death penalty" and sCam going nowhere. It would be just another example of the lack of impulse control from a black by trying to get 100-180K immediately (and illegally) instead of potentially millions later on and justified.
 

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Sounds like the sharks are starting to circle in. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed on Auburn getting the "death penalty" and sCam going nowhere. It would be just another example of the lack of impulse control from a black by trying to get 100-180K immediately (and illegally) instead of potentially millions later on and justified.

Yeah, I doubt Auburn gets really harsh penalties. No doubt about it, blacks and other diversities are often excused when acting as what sociologists call "innovators." Way too little punishment and or ridicule is given to them when they break the law/rules.
 

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That sure seems to be the case with a lot of them, sport historian. Maybe part of it is due to sCam still being allowed to play and Auburn continuing to win. If either of those weren't happening, some of them might be singing a different tune. Sadly though, a bunch of them wouldn't care even if he was already ruled ineligible and AU was losing (or not in the BCS title hunt).
 

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I'm no Bama fan, but I hope the Tide whoop (s)Cam & the "Warchickens" hides next Saturday.
 

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Same here, Dixie!
 

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Well, in case no one noticed, at the end of the 1st quarter, Alabama is whuppin' Auburn 21-0. sCam Newton is 0 for 1 passing, has been sacked twice for -14 yards (so, negative 14 yards "passing"), and has rushed 5 times for NEGATIVE 6 yards. Yep, he's the real deal.
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QB McElroy for the Black Tide is showing sCam how it's done.
 

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I watched the game, but I intentionally left my computer off. I wasn't going to go on Caste Football, and give any implication that I thought the game was over because of the 1st half score.

What has Mark Ingram done this season? Trent Richardson has been banged-up this season, and definitely looks less athletic this season. Bama's O-line doesn't play as a UNIT, and they were minus Barrett Jones.

And, not surprising, Bama's "4 and 5-star" DBs made a few abysmal mistakes, and some of them looked slow... I'm not simply talking about them "biting" on a play and not being able to recover.. I'm talking athletic-limitations.. to go along with their mental errors.
 

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(s)Cam was outpaced by McElroy...377 yards to 216. Mr."Pay to Play" managed to get 1 more TD (3) then McElroy (2)...thanks to TE Philip Lutzenkirchen bailing (s)Cam & the WarChickens out.
 

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Dixie,

Do you notice how (s)Cam is always lying on the field as if he was crippled? What an "actor"...

But, at the same time, all the running he has done this season has taken a toll on his body. That's one possible reason I think he might be "one-and-done" at Auburn... The MSM and his Auburn DWF worshippers' think that he's the one "dishing out the punishment".. Uh huh.. keep thinking that!

Why doesn't Vince Young "run all over" the NFL? Because he'd get crippled.. same as Newton.
 

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That game was infuriating on so many levels I'm not even going to get in to them. McElroy was clearly the better QB, he just plays with less dependable affletes than does sCam. It was very tough to see Lutzenkirchen haul in the winning TD. Its a shame that a White player has to do the dirty work for such an undeserving Heisman hype-job.
 

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Dixie,

Do you notice how (s)Cam is always lying on the field as if he was crippled? What an "actor"...

But, at the same time, all the running he has done this season has taken a toll on his body. That's one possible reason I think he might be "one-and-done" at Auburn... The MSM and his Auburn DWF worshippers' think that he's the one "dishing out the punishment".. Uh huh.. keep thinking that!

Why doesn't Vince Young "run all over" the NFL? Because he'd get crippled.. same as Newton.

Maybe ol (s)Cam will win an Oscar to go along side his Heisman.
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Like Vince YOung & (con)Vick, (s)Cam won't be able hang with the elite QBs of the NFL...Manning, Brees, Brady, Rivers & Ryan.
 
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