Toby Gerhart

Quiet Speed said:

Beautiful running by Toby.

Did Stanford get robbed of a TD? I did not see a chop block on the play.

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I didn't see it either. The horrible announcers sure didn't point it out.

Great game by Toby 35 carries for over 130 yards against an inspired OU defense, he did great. But Stanford needed luck, QB Luck that is. Pritchard just was not comfortable at this point in the season.

Now on to the combines. Memo to Toby get in touch with Don Beebe.

They did get robbed on the chop block call and the announcers didn't point it out even on replay. I believe it was called on Gerhart, but the replayed showed that Gerhart was actually the one who got chop blocked.

However, from the first play to the last it was a demonstration of poor play calling. Absolutely no deception at all in Stanford's play book. Not one naked boot leg through the whole game. And not using the play action pass is inexcusable - particularily on the last play - 4th and 2. I was screaming about the play calling the entire game. Edited by: Kaptain Poop

Well even though Andrew Luck was not in the game and therefore, the Cardinal had to practically run the ball on every play, Toby still gained over a hundred tough yards against the "athletic" Sooner defense. On several plays, Gerhart knocked a few afroletes out of his way into the end zone. Yet again, the terrible play by Stanford's negro corners allowed Oklahoma to throw the ball at will, costing Toby a bowl win.

Bo McNally was unstoppable, all over the field including an interception and big return.

Would a screen pass have been too much to ask for on the last 4th and 2 play of the game. For a quarterback that struggled all day, it was unconscionable to put the ball in Pritchard's hands with that bad play call.

With better coaching decisions and play calling, Stanford should be 11 and 3.

And what the heck is with the wildcat? Maybe if Gerhart threw a pass out of it, but why run out of it? It's telegraphing a run. You never want to do that with a power runner. Always be deceptive and make the defense pay for keying on the powerback.

WHITE NOISE said:

Would a screen pass have been too much to ask for on the last 4th and 2 play of the game. For a quarterback that struggled all day, it was unconscionable to put the ball in Pritchard's hands with that bad play call.

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The screen pass is a play that I was screaming for all day too. Oklahoma used it quite effectively.

Just to throwa "could've, should've, would've" in the mix, I am POSITIVE Stanford would've won and Gerhart would've had an even higher YPC had BOTH Luck AND Bradford played.

No possible way Bradford is throwing for more than 416 yds and 3TDs. So regardless Bradford or Jones is the QB, the Sooners were gonna score 31pts. No possible way Luck has as bad of a game as Pritchard had (8/19 118 yds 2 INTs). With Luck in the game, the passing threat is there, Oklahoma cant put 8-9 players in the box, Stanford outscores Oklahoma and wins, Toby runs ALL OVER Oklahoma!

But no sour grapes. Gerhart proved hes the best RB in college, Stanford proved they can play with the big boys, as they have all season.

Gerhart earned every yard this afternoon. Even though the Sooners were waiting for him on every play, he still knocked the crap out of them. At least one defender received a broken leg for his efforts in tackling Toby!

Gerhart proved once again that he is NFL material, able to bust the short yard situation and turn the corner for big gains. A prototype big back with speed and power!

The announcers kept talking about Toby's power, and the camera crew kept showing Toby (even on the sidelines). Pritchard wasn't impressive throwing the ball. I thought Stanford got ripped off on two bogus "pass interference" calls on White Stanford defenders(where the defender made the hit after the ball was there). Then an OU afflete nailed Stanford's White FB (on a similar play), yet no flag. Terrible officiating there.

The main thing is that Toby had a solid game and confirmed his talent against a good D. Toby MUST hire a combine coach so he can run a 4.4, he does that and he's almost guaranteed to go in the 1st round and that will make it almost impossible for even the Caste system ingrained as it is to deny him an opportunity to be a featured back somewhere. It would be tough to justify playing a 1st round pick at FB. Even DWF's will be able to see that as blatant discrimination.

Many NFL fans are craving a featured RB that's white IMO. Look how popular Alstott was in Tampa, probably one of the top 3 most popular players in Bucs history because of his ability to run the ball, not block. How many teams favorite player was a FB?

Mike Alstott was so much faster than he was ever given credit for. Mike was also a shifty runner who had moves that made plenty of affletes whiff trying to tackle him in the open field. But if you only saw highlights of Alstott you'd think he was a slow straight ahead power running FB like Moose Johnston. I'm still baffled that a guy as talented and as popular as Alstott was couldn't get 1 team to let him have an opportunity to be the featured RB when he became a free agent, they were only interested in him as a FB...

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Just learned the Cardinal was defeated today. Luck didn't play; that's why they lost. He's a very good, young QB. Bet their passing game sucked royally. Toby surely had to carry almost the whole load just like in years past. I saw he averaged about 4 ypc and about 120-130 yards. Pretty darn good day considering the defense knew there was no real passing threat without Luck. Now I hope Toby gets a decent shot in the NFL. I doubt it, but I'm hoping to be proven wrong. Wouldn't it be great to see him stomping all over and around the "superior" affletes in the NFL? If he goes in the later rounds, we will know we've got another Hass on our hands.

JReb1 said:

The main thing is that Toby had a solid game and confirmed his talent against a good D. Toby MUST hire a combine coach so he can run a 4.4, he does that and he's almost guaranteed to go in the 1st round and that will make it almost impossible for even the Caste system ingrained as it is to deny him an opportunity to be a featured back somewhere. It would be tough to justify playing a 1st round pick at FB. Even DWF's will be able to see that as blatant discrimination.Many NFL fans are craving a featured RB that's white IMO. Look how popular Alstott was in Tampa, probably one of the top 3 most popular players in Bucs history because of his ability to run the ball, not block. How many teams favorite player was a FB?Mike Alstott was so much faster than he was ever given credit for. Mike was also a shifty runner who had moves that made plenty of affletes whiff trying to tackle him in the open field. But if you only saw highlights of Alstott you'd think he was a slow straight ahead power running FB like Moose Johnston. I'm still baffled that a guy as talented and as popular as Alstott was couldn't get 1 team to let him have an opportunity to be the featured RB when he became a free agent, they were only interested in him as a FB...

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Pudgy Mr. Nutrisystem Chris Berman did his best to further that stereotype against Alstott. I would have liked to see someone sock him a good one for his rumbling, bumbling, stumbling garbage in relation to the A-Train, it was so funny, NOT!

I have never like him and have always wondered why anyone would ever even think that he had a leg to stand on in terms of commenting about sports. He is the type that looks like he has never played a game of organized anything in his life. He couldn't even hold Alstott's jock. Edited by: Bear Backer

Horrible coaching by Harbaugh. On the last drive you give the ball to your horse, to your best player. On 4th and 2....he passed??? Pritchard sucks, was unreliable all game long and with the game on the line you put it in his hands??? Unbelievalble. Toby got screwed by the Heisman voters and constantly by Harbaugh all season long.

The play calling throughout the game was puzzling, but they lost half of their offense with Luck out. Pritchard is not a proficient passer, although I was surprised that they didn't run with him more, since that is his strength. Of course, 27 points is a respectable output, but Stanford's defense was a weak spot once again, something we've seen over and over this year. The weakest spot on defense? The mostly black secondary! I guess Stanford needs more whites to succeed!

dbwave said:

Horrible coaching by Harbaugh. On the last drive you give the ball to your horse, to your best player. On 4th and 2....he passed??? Pritchard sucks, was unreliable all game long and with the game on the line you put it in his hands??? Unbelievalble. Toby got screwed by the Heisman voters and constantly by Harbaugh all season long.

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You are right, Harbaugh has really looked out of his element at times. What I cannot understand is why they kept going with Pritchard when it was pretty obvious he wasn't nor was he going to be able to get the job done. I know Stanford has other QB's and there was a reason that a Freshman earned the starting job over him. He is not even mediocre, just a somewhat decent athlete, but a poor QB overall in the college ranks. Harbaugh has certainly been gutsy at times, but when you are going to be gutsy you need to at least do so in a manner where you have your best opportunity to succeed with your best players having the ball in their hands.

Yeah they should have had Pritchard running a little bit more, hes decent at that. They used shotgun formation a little too much, it benefits the quarterback, but its a disadvantage for the runningback, particuarly a guy with Gerhart's style. It didn't seem to help Pritchard out much anyway, so they should have abandoned it, espescially after he dropped a few snaps, some of them were low, its just the center is not used to snapping in the shotgun. Pritchard pissed me off quite a bit yesterday. He drops the snap and hands it to Gerhart who was not ready for it and had a wall of defenders around him which resulted in a loss of yards, which rarely happens to him. Then another pass he throws to Marecic, who was on the line of scrimmage with several defenders ready to light him up, you shouldn't throw that pass, lucky he dropped it. He would have gotten smashed and had no gain, should have just thrown it away in that situation.


I was hoping Pritchard would come out and play with a chip on his shoulder, being it was his last game, and he was beaten out by a true freshman. I mean how hard is it to manage the game? The playcalling could have been better. They had Gerhart running into a wall of 9 defenders constantly, and he still averaged 4.2 ypc. OU supposedly has "one of the best defensive lines" in the nation. It is all I kept hearing about from their fans before the game and they were talking about how he hasn't faced a defense like theres before even though Toby faced a much tougher USC defense last year that had 8 defenders drafted in the nfl, 3 up for ROY, 1 of those in the pro bowl and another 1 as a pro bowl alternate.

Gerhart had a good game 32 carries 135 yards and 2 tds, 4.2 ypc, but they would have easily won this game if Luck was in considering they only lost by 4 with horrible qb play (Gerhart had more rushing yards than Pritchard had passing). Luck can take advantage of teams when they stack the box. Gerhart probably would have had around 200 yards rushing and a higher ypc. Fewer 3 and outs and defense would have been on the field less. The D did a pretty good job, espescially at stopping the run, its just the corners couldn't cover. 3rd and 8 and they give a 10 yard cushion. I find it hard to believe they can't find any White corners that can cover better, because the affletes on Stanford dont have that much athleticism.

Harbaugh is a great coach and I am glad he is giving White athletes a chance to play at caste positions, but he has had some questionable play calling throughout the year. Out of their 5 losses (including the bowl) they have lost by an average of 6 points. They should have won a few of those. The 4th and 2 situation having Pritchard passing out of shotgun formation was one of those questionable calls.Edited by: dwid

Bear Backer said:

Pudgy Mr. Nutrisystem Chris Berman did his best to further that stereotype against Alstott. I would have liked to see someone sock him a good one for his rumbling, bumbling, stumbling garbage in relation to the A-Train, it was so funny, NOT!

I have never like him and have always wondered why anyone would ever even think that he had a leg to stand on in terms of commenting about sports. He is the type that looks like he has never played a game of organized anything in his life. He couldn't even hold Alstott's jock.

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True, Berman (a tribesman) also used to do the boom, boom, boom during his highlights of the Bucs when Alstott would run people over or move the pile in short yardage or goal line situations. Mike was much more versatile than that, sure he could run over affletes but also he could run around and make them miss. The A-Train also had sure hands catching the ball out of the backfield. If Mike was allowed to be a featured back and could go back down to 230 lbs. (he had to put on 30-40 pounds of muscle to play FB) he also would've been so much faster.

I'm just hoping that the Caste system doesn't do to Toby what it did to Mike (or worse what they're currently doing to Hester, Hillis, Woodhead and Leonard, at least Alstott got his fair share of carries and plays before Gruden took over) they're both SO much better than that!!!

The keys for Toby being a number one pick are two. First he kicks ass at the combines which I know he will. Second, he needs to make it clear "I will only playing running back i.e. Tailback or Half back, go and find some other affelet to be the battering ram, I will never do it." Quite simple.

Westside said:

The keys for Toby being a number one pick are two. First he kicks ass at the combines which I know he will. Second, he needs to make it clear "I will only playing running back i.e. Tailback or Half back, go and find some other affelet to be the battering ram, I will never do it." Quite simple.

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And Toby should answer every reporter with the nerve to ask him about playing FB firmly with a why would I play FB when I've been successful as a HB my whole life? He can't be passive IMO.

The latest mock draft that I hve seen dated 12/31/2009 has Gerhart going to the Seahawks at pick #41. If this is true I can live with this. Toby gets to stay on the left coast and he will split carries right away with some other scrub brother I'm sure of it. Any way where ever Toby goes he needs to dominate from day one just to shut the naysayers up.

I sure hope he doesn't wind up with the Seahawks, remember who their coach is?

Dwid, If Mora gets sh*tcanned I wouldn't mind seeing a Owen Schmitt-Toby Gerhart backfield. In all honesty I think the best place for Toby to end up is in Houston.

I think his talent will over shadow his lack of pigmentation. I honestly think Toby will end up in Sandiego after they cut Tomlinson and he will split carries with Darren Sproles. Their GM did draft Weddle and Hester fairly high. I think the Chargers are the best fit for Gerhart.Edited by: White Power