Ronald Reagan

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Paleocon said:
...the so-called Obama administration has let slip the dirty secret that our politicians do not write or read the policies they enact.

That's been true for decades. Did any member of congress read any part of the heaps of New Deal legislation passed in FDR's first 100 days?

Of course not.
 

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Nor did they read the so-called Patriot Act (which, by sheer coincidence of course, was hundreds of pages long but was ready to go within hours after the 9/11 attacks) or the similarly draconian legislation passed after the equally mysterious Oklahoma City bombing.
 

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Nor did they read the so-called Patriot Act (which, by sheer coincidence of course, was hundreds of pages long but was ready to go within hours after the 9/11 attacks) or the similarly draconian legislation passed after the equally mysterious Oklahoma City bombing. 
Do I smell a 9/11 conspiracy?
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9/11 was the fault and stupidity of both Clinton & Bush 2!

Vietnam all began with Eisenhower, only to get out of control under JFK (jerk!), LBJ (jerk!) & Nixon (jerk!).

Pearl Harbor is FDR's undoing! Just imagine if the US had not participated in WWII, Zionism & Socialism would never have taken a foothold in the US. It first sprouted in the 60's, went dormant in the 70's and 80's, and was sparked again in the 90's and has only spiraled out of control since.

Yep! All this stupidity first began on December 7, 1941.
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Colonel_Reb said:
Don't forget about the atrocities at Ruby Ridge, Idaho either. That was under George Herbert Walker Bush's watch. Reagan as POTUS was a prototypical modern neo-con. He talked conservative and rarely backed it up. I thought he was a decent president back then, but now I know he was part of the problem. Bush I and II and Clinton were all worse than Reagan, which is one reason I think a lot of people are nostalgic for the days of Reagan.

Reb very true about Ruby Ridge. I didn't pay much attention as I was very young when it happened, but with both RR and Waco I recall there were people on national tv programs defending the government in both situations claiming something along the lines of "It's a terrible thing but they had no other choice." Could you imagine if the federal government murdered black children and pregnant women? Every black in the nation would "within their rights" to throw a brick in the face of any white person they encountered, slash their tires, set their houses on fire, shoot them. If that doomsday scenario ever happened, it could literally end society as we know it or at least set martial law into place. But us white people simply said "oh, that's terrible" and moved on in life. Edited by: Electric Slide
 

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Reagan was a collosal failure. He had the first amnesty for illegals and the national debt soared. Conservative speeches and liberal policies. The fact that he did nothing but encourage massive immigration on this country alone makes him a massive failure as a President.
I didn't say he was perfect, and by the way the immigration issue and the deficit are the 2 things he said he regretted the most

And everybody regrets them to this day. By no means was that the only two mistakes he made just the two I decided to mention. Whether or not he regretted those two dozies of mistakes is inconsequential.
 

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KP name a person let alone a POTUS can ever be perfect. That being said who do you think is the best or most effective POTUS in the last 40 yearas. I am dying to hear!!!

Yes Reagan was not perfect but who is???

You sir, sound like another white man thrashing another white who never held the office. Please I am dying to hear who you think is the most effective President we have had for the last 40 yrs. And spare me the Iraeli Puppet Master conspiracies or what ever.

I didn't say he "wasn't perfect" - I said he was a "collosal failure."

I have no idea what, you sir, meant by the "white man trashing another" comment or who the person is that "never held office." All the Presidents except B.O. have been white and held the office. If I can't trash white Presidents, then what is left?


As far as the most effective President in the last 40 years..... It's pretty much a tie as they all sucked arse (maybe Nixon narrowly wins). That's the point of the matter. You may want to believe Reagan was a Conservative God because he was such a wonderful leading-man orator. He may have swept you completely off your feet with his swooning conservative speeches. Well, take a cold shower - he was an actor, dummy!

Isn't it interesting that despite the topic of Reagan being up for several days now and 2 pages of posts, outside of the mention of meager tax reductions, not one Conservative thing Reagan did was actually cited? Why do you think that is?

I don't know why you brought your love affair with Israel into this. I never mentioned Israel or Jews in this thread as anybody can clearly see, but now that you brought it up Reagan did have a lot Zionist Jews around him.

Now your turn. Outside of tax talk, name me one thing Conservative thing Reagan actually accomplished. I'm dying to hear!
 
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Kaptain Poop said:
Westside said:
KP name a person let alone a POTUS can ever be perfect. That being said who do you think is the best or most effective POTUS in the last 40 yearas. I am dying to hear!!!

Yes Reagan was not perfect but who is???

You sir, sound like another white man thrashing another white who never held the office. Please I am dying to hear who you think is the most effective President we have had for the last 40 yrs. And spare me the Iraeli Puppet Master conspiracies or what ever.

I didn't say he "wasn't perfect" - I said he was a "collosal failure."

I have no idea what, you sir, meant by the "white man trashing another" comment or who the person is that "never held office." All the Presidents except B.O. have been white and held the office. If I can't trash white Presidents, then what is left?


As far as the most effective President in the last 40 years..... It's pretty much a tie as they all sucked arse (maybe Nixon narrowly wins). That's the point of the matter. You may want to believe Reagan was a Conservative God because he was such a wonderful leading-man orator. He may have swept you completely off your feet with his swooning conservative speeches. Well, take a cold shower - he was an actor, dummy!

Isn't it interesting that despite the topic of Reagan being up for several days now and 2 pages of posts, outside of the mention of meager tax reductions, not one Conservative thing Reagan did was actually cited? Why do you think that is?

I don't know why you brought your love affair with Israel into this. I never mentioned Israel or Jews in this thread as anybody can clearly see, but now that you brought it up Reagan did have a lot Zionist Jews around him.

Now your turn. Outside of tax talk, name me one thing Conservative thing Reagan actually accomplished. I'm dying to hear!
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Captain Crap stop projecting on me. You are the only dummy here. What kind of moron would pick a name like Captain Poop. Sounds to me like a pedophile who is still in hiding.

CP why did you have to start with the insults man? I never insulted you. Just in case you are wondering, calling a member a dummy is an insult. You creep!!! Its clear one can not have a intellectual consversation with you. So I guess your dying to hear will continue with this thread.
 

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Kaptain Poop said:
Now your turn. Outside of tax talk, name me one thing Conservative thing Reagan actually accomplished. I'm dying to hear!

Well, he abolished the lefty Department of Education. Oh, my bad, he reneged on that campaign promise. He gave great speeches you would have to admit. Looked good riding horses and chopping wood too. Other than that...
 

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Reagan was simply a Neo-Conservative, the first of it's kind.

What this country needs is a Paleo-Conservative president.

But, that's at best a pipe dream. Edited by: j41181
 
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Captain Crap stop projecting on me. You are the only dummy here. What kind of moron would pick a name like Captain Poop. Sounds to me like a pedophile who is still in hiding.

CP why did you have to start with the insults man? I never insulted you. Just in case you are wondering, calling a member a dummy is an insult. You creep!!! Its clear one can not have a intellectual consversation with you. So I guess your dying to hear will continue with this thread.
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Westside said:
Captain Crap stop projecting on me. You are the only dummy here. What kind of moron would pick a name like Captain Poop. Sounds to me like a pedophile who is still in hiding.

CP why did you have to start with the insults man? I never insulted you. Just in case you are wondering, calling a member a dummy is an insult. You creep!!! Its clear one can not have a intellectual consversation with you. So I guess your dying to hear will continue with this thread.
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I try to ignore the BS and cut to the chase on Presidents. First I would add that a "President" is nothing more then a figurehead for a certain regime. It's all about who is behind them and the people that are put in charge. The man himself is of little consequence.

Reagan's big accomplishment-bar none-was his fiscal policy, by whatever name you want to call it, that lowered interest rates. You can argue that huge deficits were the reason for it but none the less, the horrible interest rates of the Carter years disappeared and were replaced with something more reasonable. It made it possible for people to borrow money to buy homes and other goods. It led to the longest period of sustained prosperity in the modern era. About all you should expect from a government.

I think their is no question that the Clinton regime was the best one of the modern era. Slick Willie was non-ideoligacal and thus had no great interest in establising a socialist utopia (unlike the Obama regime). He presided over a balanced budget, he started no major wars (just a few stupid "police actions" that cost few lives and little money), he gridlocked the government with his absurd sexual scandals that had the dual benefit of keeping the Congress busy (and not writing harmful legislation) and the Press occupied. (Would that Obama could have a bimbo eruption!!).

His regime won election to a third term although due to the oddity of the electoral college did not "win" the election. Say what you want about the sex scandals they at least show that he was virile, and what other high profile white male politician can you say that about?
 

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The fiscal economic policies of both Reagan & Clinton (yes, Clinton) are their crowning achievements. They both gave the USA unprecedented wealth and prosperity despite their obvious pro-Zionist/pro-Multicultural agendas. That's why I say they were the last two great American presidents (I will NOT retract my previous statement in this thread).

Ronald Reagan & Bill Clinton, the last two great Presidents of the United States of America (POTUSA).
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With these two great men gone, and a Socialist/Globalist Elite figurehead in Obama in charge, MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON US ALL!!!!
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jaxvid said:
I think their is no question that the Clinton regime was the best one of the modern era. Slick Willie was non-ideoligacal and thus had no great interest in establising a socialist utopia (unlike the Obama regime). He presided over a balanced budget, he started no major wars (just a few stupid "police actions" that cost few lives and little money), he gridlocked the government with his absurd sexual scandals that had the dual benefit of keeping the Congress busy (and not writing harmful legislation) and the Press occupied. (Would that Obama could have a bimbo eruption!!).

I wouldn't say the Slickster was non ideological. Many would argue that the budget was balanced not by Willie, but the Republicans in the House led by Gingrich.

Anyway, getting back to Reagan. I think he was on the right track back in the sixties. He was opposed to The Civil Rights Act for one. I used to listen to his radio commentary in the seventies. I voted for him twice and waited in line for hours to shake his hand after a campaign speech in a little Union Hall in Southeast Wisconsin.

Somewhere along the way he veered off course, or was overwhelmed by the usual suspects.

In any case, blacks love Clinton and loathe Reagan, so the Gipper had something going for him.
 

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Westside said:
Captain Crap stop projecting on me. You are the only dummy here. What kind of moron would pick a name like Captain Poop. Sounds to me like a pedophile who is still in hiding.

CP why did you have to start with the insults man? I never insulted you. Just in case you are wondering, calling a member a dummy is an insult. You creep!!! Its clear one can not have a intellectual consversation with you. So I guess your dying to hear will continue with this thread.

Anybody can clearly see that your first post addressing me was confrontatial and insulting. And for what reason? Because I don't like Reagan?

I replied to your questions and comments in your post in kind and stuck to the subject matter. You haven't. You apparently didn't like my tone. Well tuck your bottom lip back in and act like big boy. If you can't take a harsh tone then you shouldn't call me out in the way that you did. To clarify, I'm not just another "white man thrashing another white man" and I didn't have a word to a say about "Israeli puppet-masters" before you threw that little nugget in there.

"Westside", yo hommy that's a creative name. I'll change my name to "Whatsup K-dog" if that'll satify your infantile obsessions with names.
 

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Kaptain Poop said:
Westside said:
Captain Crap stop projecting on me. You are the only dummy here. What kind of moron would pick a name like Captain Poop. Sounds to me like a pedophile who is still in hiding.

CP why did you have to start with the insults man? I never insulted you. Just in case you are wondering, calling a member a dummy is an insult. You creep!!! Its clear one can not have a intellectual consversation with you. So I guess your dying to hear will continue with this thread.

Anybody can clearly see that your first post addressing me was confrontatial and insulting. And for what reason? Because I don't like Reagan?

I replied to your questions and comments in your post in kind and stuck to the subject matter. You haven't. You apparently didn't like my tone. Well tuck your bottom lip back in and act like big boy. If you can't take a harsh tone then you shouldn't call me out in the way that you did. To clarify, I'm not just another "white man thrashing another white man" and I didn't have a word to a say about "Israeli puppet-masters" before you threw that little nugget in there.

"Westside", yo hommy that's a creative name. I'll change my name to "Whatsup K-dog" if that'll satify your infantile obsessions with names.
C'mon guys, were allowed to have political differences without slandering each other. We are all here for pretty much the same reasons. So lets all be friends because the last thing we need is to attack each other. As far as the Reagan thing goes, I wasn't saying he was the ideal president, but compared to the last 2 (Bush Jr, Obama) I think he was a lot better. Edited by: jcolec02
 

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KP to answer your first post attacking me I will. Reagan made us feel good about our Country after the debacle that was Jimmy Carter. He also rehabilitated the armed forces which in turn, gave the western world the leverage to stare down and break the former Soviet Union. You asked for one conservative accomplishment of Ronnie, I gave you two.

My tone of 1st post addressing you was confrontational. I was astounded by your statement that Reagan was a "collosal failure." Based on history and comparison of the last 9 presidents this simply is not true IMO.

I qualified your statement as never holding the Office of the POTUS, in trashing another white man. This should have not been addressed to you specifically. I just wanted an answer. My intent was not to call you out. Just an answer.

Regarding my name, I live on the west coast, i.e. California. I pondered "Westcoast" but felt "Westside" sounded cooler. An obsession with names is the least of my concerns.

So in closing KP I offer an olive branch and apologize for my confrontational tone and calling you out. There many enemies out there against us, namely DWFs, NFL coaches and adminstrators, PTB(Jews)in Entertainment/Banking, misguided whites(socialists), affelets, black race hustlers and assorted miscreants. KP I don't believe your an enemy. My intent now is move on from this and to agree to disagree about Reagan.
 

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Nobody mentions that Reaganwas able to get passedthe most radical personal income tax rate cuts of any president.
 

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Nobody mentions that Reagan was able to get passed the most radical personal income tax rate cuts of any president.

The marginal tax rate for the wealthy was over 70% back then before Reagan cut it in half.. No wonder the economy of the late seventies and early 80's were so bad. They had something called a misery index back then with double digit inflation, interest rates and unemployment. With this latest version of the health care bill the House is trying to vote on this Sunday, they are trying to push it back up to 45% from 39%. That's still way too high in my opinion.
 

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Of course, Reagan's greatest victory was the defeat of the Soviet Union in the cold war. Can you imagine if Baby Barack was the POTUS in the 1980's? He would make everyone long for Jimmy Carter. We would be calling each other "comrade". Of course, he's trying to do that now with his socialist (read: commie) policies.
 

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Bronk said:
Paleocon said:
...the so-called Obama administration has let slip the dirty secret that our politicians do not write or read the policies they enact.

That's been true for decades. Did any member of congress read any part of the heaps of New Deal legislation passed in FDR's first 100 days?

Of course not.

I am certain that it has been the case for some time. However, Obama's clumsiness is getting people to realize it for the first time. When the Democrats started howling about the side effects of their own legislation it became blatantly obvious.
 
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