Raveling: Int’l will make up 1/2 of NBA

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REVISO, Italy â€â€￾ Andrea Bargnani is next. Maybe this year. Definitely in
2007.

The 7-foot Italian forward with a long-range shooting touch, an inside
power game and this town's heart is projected as a top-five NBA draft
pick. He will decide by April 29 if he will enter June's draft at age 20 or
wait until next year. "I want to be ready," he says.

Bargnani (Barg-NAH-nee) would be the latest in an unprecedented
foreign invasion of the NBA. International talent comprises a league-
record 18% of its players. That includes a league-high seven international
players on the defending champion San Antonio Spurs, who open the
playoffs this weekend looking for their third title in four years, and six on
the Phoenix Suns, whose coach made his name in Italy and has used the
team-oriented, run-pass-and-shoot game to build the league's fourth-
best record this season.

Sixty percent of the NBA's foreign players come from Europe, where they
â€â€￾ like Bargnani â€â€￾ are trained from their early teen years in
fundamentals-driven basketball factories that produce pinpoint passers,
surefire shooters and team-first players.

Perhaps the best: German forward Dirk Nowitzki, the Dallas Mavericks' 7-
foot superstar who is an NBA MVP candidate again this season.

The European players are just what the coach ordered in an NBA game
that has tilted in the past decade toward young talent lacking the
fundamentals.

"NBA teams are realizing it's less risky to draft internationals because
they're more coachable, more socialized, have no posses and have not
been Americanized," says former college coach George Raveling, Nike's
director of global basketball. Raveling's prediction: International players
will comprise 50% of the NBA by 2010.

Bargnani plays for Benetton Treviso, a storied Italian professional club
owned by the global fashion giant. It's based in this northwest city of
85,000; historic Venice is a 30-minute train ride away.

Basketball history-in-the-making is here: Bargnani is the best Italian
player that country has produced and a young reminder of Nowitzki, 27.

Even at his tender age, Bargnani is the face of the franchise. A cardboard
cutout likeness of him looms near every ramp in The Palaverde, the
team's cozy, 6,000-seat arena. He is also one of the team's veterans, in
the third year of a five-year contract he signed at 18.

That came two years after Benetton Treviso's general manager plucked
him out of Rome, where he was playing in the developmental system of a
club in the lowest tier of Italy's four-level pro system.

Bargnani was brought to Benetton Treviso's sprawling campus, called La
Ghirada, where he lived in a dorm, attended public school and practiced,
often twice a day â€â€￾ all under the club's supervision and at its expense.

This, Bargnani says, was his "dream since I was young â€â€￾ to become a
player in Treviso." Now this is his reality: He's on the brink of playing in
the NBA.

This is where they come from.

This is how they have stormed America's game.

What foreign players supply
Since the Michael Jordan-led Dream Team showcased U.S. basketball in
the 1992 Barcelona Olympics, the number of foreign-born players in the
NBA has increased from 21, representing 18 countries, in the 1992-93
season to a record 82, from 36 nations and territories, this season.

In the last four drafts, 76 non-American players were selected among the
240 spots available (32%), including 28 in the first round (23%). Six of the
24 players who played in February's NBA All-Star Game were foreign-
born.

Those staggering figures, some say, celebrate the reinvention of the
game internationally. Others argue they are an embarrassing indictment
of the USA's pool of talent, which is deep but often lacking in the
fundamental skills of passing, shooting and dribbling.

Toronto Raptors GM Bryan Colangelo says it's a combination: "It's players
domestically just not focusing on the fundamentals and an indication of
what focus has been put on the development of the game at the very
purest level in Europe."

While it would be hard to argue that the brightest NBA stars â€â€￾ the likes of
Kobe Bryant, LeBron James or Dwyane Wade â€â€￾ are not fundamentally
sound, it is apparent some of the lesser-skilled players have flaws.

"The Euros and foreign players and coaches," Spurs coach Gregg Popovich
says, "are doing things in some ways we have forgotten about and used
to do."

This is the bottom line for Dave Blatt, Benetton Treviso's American-born
coach who has spent the last 20 years playing or coaching in Europe: "I
still believe the best basketball players in the world are in the U.S. But the
best-taught basketball players are no longer there."

The world is not only reteaching the USA the importance of the game's
fundamentals, it is schooling NBA-stocked U.S. Olympic and world
championship teams. U.S. teams, which finished third in the 2004
Olympics in Athens and sixth in the 2002 world championships in
Indianapolis, are learning a concept that is, quite literally, foreign to
them: Substance and five-on-five play usually beat slam-dunk style and
one-on-one flair.

Those are the principles that have been ingrained in Bargnani from the
day he first picked up a basketball. He is the product of a system that
identifies top players locally as early as age 12 and immerses them in a
professional environment as young as 16.

"Kids start playing with little Benetton Treviso jerseys on at 8 and 9," says
Drew Nicholas, a Benetton Treviso guard from the University of Maryland.
"They have their own little factory here."

Bargnani played youth basketball starting at 5 in Rome. At 12, he
advanced to a junior program in Rome. At 16, he signed an "under
control" agreement with Benetton Treviso â€â€￾ essentially an apprenticeship
contract under which the club agrees to cover a player's living and
training expenses and schooling in exchange for control of rights to the
player â€â€￾ and moved to La Ghirada. At 18, he signed his five-year pro
contract, which an NBA team will have to buy out when Bargnani is
drafted.

Bargnani learned the game from the outside in, that is, from the
perimeter facing the basket. In the USA, in contrast, coaches in school-
sponsored programs, from junior high to college, teach big players the
game from the inside out â€â€￾ with their backs to the basket.

Joe Crispin, a guard with Navigo.it Teramo in Italy who played for Penn
State, marvels at team practices where big men are included in dribbling
drills with the guards.

"I'd love to tell every coach in America you need to learn how to coach like
this," he says. "It's not the same mentality, but college and high school
coaches have to learn how to develop guys. Frankly, they're not."

That, Blatt says, is because the game is taught in gyms in Europe. In the
USA, he says, it's largely learned at an early age in pickup games, where
playing with the ball instead of without it and going one-on-one instead
of five-on-five are more treasured.

Nicholas contends the European approach fosters copycat talent. That
homogeneous aspect of their development is at odds with the most
exciting aspect of the NBA â€â€￾ great individual plays made within the team
concept. "They all play the same," he says. "Good shooters. Fundamentally
sound, but you need some individualistic play."

'Move up or move out'
Bargnani has grown up fast in the European system. They all do â€â€￾ as
adults and players. There is no alternative. "They move up or they move
out," says Benetton Treviso general manager Maurizio Gherardini, who
signed Bargnani.

Those who don't make it in Treviso usually sign with clubs in lower
divisions, and, if they are enrolled in a university, continue studying at a
slower pace because of the demands of pro basketball. In Europe, the
path to pro team sports is more directly and overtly linked to a trade-
school environment than it is in the USA, where big-time athletics' place
in high schools and colleges is a constant source of debate.

Gherardini, Treviso's GM since 1992, is widely respected internationally
because of his eye for high quality, even in young players. Under his
watch, Benetton Treviso has won four Italian League titles and made four
appearances in the Euroleague's final four â€â€￾ the climax of a season-long
competition among Europe's top 24 clubs. "He knows talent," says Larry
Bird, the Indiana Pacers general manager.

For Bargnani, Benetton Treviso's schedule, a maximum of 78 games in the
Italian League and the Euroleague, including playoffs, has provided a
steady dose of competition against older players. In contrast, U.S. players
compete against peers in high school and college.

In the beginning, Bargnani says, he was "maybe" intimidated by the older
players. Not now. He's 20, and "I've gotten tougher."

"They are trained to be what they want to be," Gherardini says. "They get
used to the drama of winning and losing when they are 17. They grow up
faster."

College can wait
Bargnani graduated from secondary school two years ago and hasn't
pursued a university education, although he wants to eventually. There
isn't time now. Few elite players in Europe move on after secondary
school.

"The dream of all the youngsters in Europe is to sign your first pro
contract," Gherardini says. "That's a bigger deal than planning a university
career."

Bargnani's mother, Luisella Balducci, is OK with that. On a visit from Rome
to watch her son play, she acknowledged the difficulty in managing a pro
career and school. "He hasn't got the time to study at the moment," she
says. "He must be happy with what he does. Anyway, you can't have
everything."

On the court, Bargnani is an "A" student. He has received extended
playing time â€â€￾ 21.1 minutes per 40-minute game â€â€￾ for the first time
this season and responded with good, if not eye-catching, statistics: He
averaged 10.9 points and 4.1 rebounds and shot 55.8% overall and 43.3%
from three-point range in 18 Euroleague games. In 28 Italian League
games, he is averaging 11.2 points and 5.3 rebounds.

"He's proven to be a guy who will fulfill his vast potential," Blatt says.
"Benetton Treviso gave his life a new meaning and direction. Now he's on
a clear path to where he's going."

It's where they all want to go â€â€￾ to the NBA.
 

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Good Post-I hope White players from Europe make up 75% of the NBA soon, the Europeans have taken over the bigger division's of boxing, basketball is next!!Edited by: Gary
 
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In a sane world, this phenomenon would have the effect of increasing the number of "local" Europeans, i.e. White North Americans, in the game.

This is unlikely, however, and here's why: The real Europeans don't have the plague of black-jock-sniffin', darkie-lovin' coaches, which we seem to have in this country by the thousands. Mr. Raveling seems to be saying this -- albeit in a more-polite manner -- in his article.

As long as "individuality", i.e. "Afro-showboating," is valued by the proponents of the game, America's homegrown players will continue to suck, and Whites will continue to be marginalized by the programs.
 

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currently, just 6% of the NBA is made up of white Americans. you read that correctly, 6%. it's almost unbelievable.
 
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great article and great read.Soon the NBA will be completely taken over by whites.Whites already have taken over professional boxing.I have lots of family that reside in Europe and alot of these Big Europeans are starting to get noticed by the NFL from what Ive been hearing.You have kids over there 14-15 yrs old and already 6ft8,7ft tall etc.Edited by: onewarrior5
 

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Southern Knight said:
This is unlikely, however, and here's why: The real Europeans don't have the plague of black-jock-sniffin', darkie-lovin' coaches, which we seem to have in this country by the thousands.

This could change with further African invasions into Europe. Look at the French national basketball team. Look at British sprinting. European whites are even more liberal than American whites, and they'll embrace black athletes with open arms. Donnie Nelson has said that Africa is the future of international basketball recruiting (or something to that effect.) We've been warned.

As for the article, that is a dramatic prediction! From 18% to 50% in just a few years? Woah. Hard to believe. It seems like the "Euro invasion" has leveled off since the high point a few years ago.
 

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You have kids over there 14-15 yrs old and already 6ft8,7ft tall etc.

That is True, the Danish in particular are massively tall and rank as the #2 tallest people in the World (some African heck-hole is #1, but not by much)

European whites are even more liberal than American whites, and they'll embrace black athletes with open arms.

That is NOT necessarily True, there are many racists and fascists among soccer players and fans! (Paolo Di Canio is a good example.)

Di Canio has had a chequered career, in which time he has won many honours and been selected for his national team, but also been the centre of much controversy, such as assaulting a referee during a game and has recently made Fascist salutes to celebrate his team winning last Rome derby against arch-rivals Roma. As he repeated the gesture in the matches against Livorno (whose supporters are markedly communist) and Juventus in December 2005, he was suspended for one game by the Italian Football Federation and fined 10,000 Euros. He is known to be outspoken and passionate, and is famous for his on- and off-field flair. Also he is known to have been part of the Ultras neo-Nazi fan group (Lazio's Irriducibili) in his youth and even travelled with the group to away matches, which is quite uncommon among professional football players.

After criticism from most politicians for his fascist gestures, he stated: "I will always salute as I did yesterday because it gives me a sense of belonging to my people." Di Canio also has a tattoo on his arm which reads "DVX", which is the Latin appellative used for former Italian dictator Benito Mussolini, Duce. Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, owner of AC Milan, stated that the salute "did not have any significance" and described the player as 'an exhibitionist but a good lad'. His own team, Lazio, attempted to distance themselves from his actions, claiming that they rejected any "politicisation" of football. Di Canio initially refused to apologize for his actions and claimed that he did not intend to make a political statement. He insists that he is free to communicate with his fans in the manner of his choosing, although Italian law considers Fascist propaganda a crime. Recently, Di Canio has amended his earlier remarks now claiming to the Italian news agency ANSA that "I'm a fascist, not a racist... The salute is aimed at my people. With the straight arm I don't want to incite violence and certainly not racial hatred."


European Soccer's Racism Problem

After racist chants in stadiums in Italy and Spain last weekend brought African players to tears, the European Union and soccer's governing body are planning to get tougher on soccer's major problem.

On soccer pitches across Belgium this weekend, players will wear a black and white stripe on their faces. In Italy, an anti-racism banner will be unveiled before the opening whistle of every top Italian league and Italian Cup match.



The measures, organized by the Belgian and Italian leagues, follow another shameful weekend of racism in European soccer. On Sunday, Messina's Ivory Coast defender Marc Zoro threatened to walk off the field after fans of his team's opponents, Inter Milan, repeatedly hurled racial epithets at him. Two Espanyol of Barcelona players, the Cameroon goalkeeper Carlos Kameni and the Brazilian midfielder Fredson, were subjected to racist chants in Madrid by fans of opponent Atletico Madrid.



From fines to bans



Though hardly a new problem in the Spanish and Italian leagues, both European soccer's governing body as well as the European Parliament have promised to throw the book at violators and disperse the dark cloud hanging over European soccer.



"We are prepared to implement the necessary sanctions, from fines and closure of stadiums, and even to not allow teams to participate in competitions," said Per Ravn Omdal, the vice president of UEFA.



EU legislators are proposing a law that could stop games in which players are racially abused as well as punish the guilty clubs and national federations. Persistent offenders will be permanently removed from competition, should the new law go through. If more than half of the EU parliament signs the declaration, it will become a resolution with the possibility of becoming law.



Italy's anti-racism shirts have done little to stop the problemBildunterschrift: Italy's anti-racism shirts have done little to stop the problem



Player, in tears, tries to stop match



The strong measures came about after the Zoro incident created headlines around the world. In the 66th minute of his team's match against Inter Milan, he picked up the ball, planning to hand it to the fourth referee official as he walked off the pitch. Inter Milan stars Adriano, a Brazilian, and Nigerian forward Obafemi Martins, intervened. They pleaded with their fans to stop and convinced Zoro, who was in tears, to continue playing.



Omdal would like to see referees take more initiative in suspending or stopping matches marred by racist chants or taunts.

www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,1798795,00.html
 

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Who cares how many foreign players play in the NBA. What is meant by "American" players is almost always blacks, blacks, blacks, etc. What is "American" about them other than that they we're born there.
 
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Canadian, don't tell us about our country.
 

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I'll take a White Canadian over Kobe Bryant or your beloved coal black Detroit Pistons any day GLS. Blood is thicker than geography.
 

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No offense my White Brothers but this is a White Site not an American Site. Lets build each other up,encourage,exhort and back our fellow Whites. We should never create discord among ourselves. I hate no man regardless of race BUT I do hate a system that never give's White's any credit. If a black man breaks wind we never hear the end of it on ESPN but Wlad could KO Satan and end world hunger and the PC media would never mention it. We are in a WAR with the PC jock sniffers, it's a WAR we must win for our brothers,sons and grandsons-they are looking to us to hold up the proud history of our race.
So lets not fight among ourselves my brothers while the jock sniffers try to make us all look like
'schmucks'.
A good day to you all, and remember a man's race is his nation!!!Edited by: Gary
 

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G.L.S.: what would you prefer an NBA filled with black players that essentially ignores recruiting whites as the past 25 years has witnessed? Does the fact that Nash is Canadian bother you? Let me tell you something. Steve Nash has more in common with white Americans and shares more American values than 99% of all black American players in the NBA. I'm Canadian and when I travel to the States I fit in like a glove with my American brothers and vice versa. White Americans are welcome here anyday. Maybe you should open your eyes because the same assimilation demographics exist on both sides of our countries, that is, a European can immigrate here and his children will instantly identify themselves as Canadian or American, depending on what side of the border they settle on, but a 10th generation African will almost always see themselves as black first and that is not going to change for a long time.
Therefore, do not ask for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee.
 
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