Jack Johnson -Tommy Burns December.26.1908

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<div ="post">102 years ago today.
Rushcutter's Bay,Australia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ_Dguh9hEE

<div ="post">Extraordinary film - but the announcers were
lying. Burns was not defenseless. He was never off his feet. He
weighed 168 to Johnson's 212. Here's the annotation under the fight on
Boxrec:

Bout halted by the
police, per prior agreement; decision awarded by the referee. Rudy
Unholz later admitted to Otto Floto that he and a pal had crawled under
the ring prior to the 14th round and shouted for the police to stop the
fight. Unholz worked Johnson's corner and had a sizeable sum on Jack
winning.</span></div>


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The career of Jack Johnson is a great exmple of that happens when you let foreigners get
control of your media, whoever control's our media controls our history.
you can not change history, but it can be "twisted" to the point that its no longer history.

Johnson was only a passable champion at best, but he served today's anti-white propaganda in the media, so he's built up to be the great negro fighter who destoryed the myth of white superiority, but his record [i think] was around 40-4-6? not a bad record, but not the unstoppable
negro hes made out to be! he lost two fights to white fighters, one [Joe Choynski] knock him out in just three rounds, but that loss has been "strangely" removed from his record......
 

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I read an article 16 years ago of a boxer named Luther "Luck" McCarty...

http://cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/mccarthy.htm

He was billed the best of the "white hopes", even though it's widely rumored too he was half-Indian. He was primed to fight Johnson, but died strangely in his last fight against Andrew "Pelky" Peltier, a so-so French-Canadian boxer. Medical autopsies at the time concluded he died of brain hemorrhage, caused by a fall from horseback riding a week before the fight. IMO, history would've very different had he lived to fight Johnson, he certainly would've destroyed him.

Here's a ghostly photo of McCarty's final moments...

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Legend has it that when McCarty collapsed, a ray of sunlight shown exactly where he lay for 10 seconds, before fading. His death is still regarded a tragic loss for boxing. Edited by: j41181
 
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Johnson benefited from all the best white fighters becoming too old or retiring, and Jonson being
unable or unwilling to do anything other than fight.
so by the time he was 30 he had more experience than any heavyweight around.
he wasn't that good he was just better than the young fighters coming up at the time...
 

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According to wikipedia, which isn't the best source, Johnson's record was 71-13-9. Jack Johnson *may* have won the title legitimately, but he didn't keep it legitimately and his reign would have been half as long had he not avoided the best competition of his era.
 

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j41181 said:
I read an article 16 years ago of a boxer named Luther "Luck" McCarty...

http://cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/mccarthy.htm

He was billed the best of the "white hopes", even though it's widely rumored too he was half-Indian. He was primed to fight Johnson, but died strangely in his last fight against Andrew "Pelky" Peltier, a so-so French-Canadian boxer. Medical autopsies at the time concluded he died of brain hemorrhage, caused by a fall from horseback riding a week before the fight. IMO, history would've very different had he lived to fight Johnson, he certainly would've destroyed him.

Here's a ghostly photo of McCarty's final moments... Before Cat Scans deaths like this were quite common. German-American contender Ernie Schaaf died like this in a fight with Primo Carnera. Supposedly he was badly ko'd in a fight with former German-American champion(fake Jew)Max Baer and would have probably been on medical suspension if the fight happened in the modern era.

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Legend has it that when McCarty collapsed, a ray of sunlight shown exactly where he lay for 10 seconds, before fading. His death is still regarded a tragic loss for boxing.
 
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Colonel_Reb said:
According to wikipedia, which isn't the best source, Johnson's record was 71-13-9. Jack Johnson *may* have won the title legitimately, but he didn't keep it legitimately and his reign would have been half as long had he not avoided the best competition of his era.
I believe a lot of his fights were no decision, that we would call public sparring today. some were just two or three rounds and nobody won or lost...Edited by: lost
 

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Back in those days they used to give paper decisions. Titles only changed hands by ko. So fighters used to stall if they were behind and fight similar to John Ruiz so that a no decision would be declared. Johnson benefited from a weak era and never defending against the top Black fighters of his era (less one in Paris). Johnson has never had his place in boxing history challenged because of it. While Dempsey was killed by modern fans for his management and promoter not letting him fight Wills or other top Black fighters.
 
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Johnsonbeat Frank Moran in Parison a 20 round decision, at the time the referee would make the decision, the ref was the light heavyweight champion George carpentier,
Carpentier later said he believed Moran won the fight but Johnson's management had promised him the next shot at Johnson title "if" Johnson beat Moran.
but Johnson and his manager ran off with all the money the next day.......
 
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Colonel_Reb said:
According to wikipedia, which isn't the best source, Johnson's record was 71-13-9. Jack Johnson *may* have won the title legitimately, but he didn't keep it legitimately and his reign would have been half as long had he not avoided the best competition of his era. 

Yes, Jack Johnson won the title legitimately and his reign was as legitimate as the other champions of the period. He didn't defend against black heavyweights Joe Jeannette and Sam Langford because the promoters shut them out against Johnson and the white champions as well.

It was hard to arrange a major opponent for Johnson because he wasn't allowed to fight in the United States.

Jack Johnson fought Jess Willard because Willard was considered to be the white fighter with the best chance of beating him and a promoter put up the money. The fight was held in Cuba. Willard was tabbed the best opponent for Jack Johnson because of his size and strength. It was felt Willard would outlast Johnson in a fight scheduled for 45 rounds. Willard knocked him out in the 26th round.Edited by: sport historian
 

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Johnson fought many of his fights on the run from the US government. Johnson alleged he threw the Willard so that he could return to the US and serve his time in federal prison. Most historians have felt that he was legitimately knocked out as Johnson dominated the fight early and then slowed to a crawl until the ko. The famous photo of Johnson holding his arms out while the referee counted him out isn't that unusual when guys are knocked out. I recall Ron Lyle doing the same posture when he was finally knocked out by Foreman in their famous fight.
 

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ww said:
<div>102 years ago today.
Rushcutter's Bay,Australia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ_Dguh9hEE

<div>Extraordinary film - but the announcers were
lying. Burns was not defenseless. He was never off his feet. He
weighed 168 to Johnson's 212. Here's the annotation under the fight on
Boxrec:

Bout halted by the
police, per prior agreement; decision awarded by the referee. Rudy
Unholz later admitted to Otto Floto that he and a pal had crawled under
the ring prior to the 14th round and shouted for the police to stop the
fight. Unholz worked Johnson's corner and had a sizeable sum on Jack
winning.</span></font>
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Boxing has been crooked for a long time. Also note Johnson's, now all too familiar, simian antics, chattering and grinning throughout.
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Boxing is still dirty, but it's better than its ever been today, more oversight by athletic commissions, back in Johnson's day, you had no less than maybe fifty men claiming to be the true heavyweight champion, working in sideshows and teaveling with snake oil salesmen...
today we have boxing commissions that do the same thing, it's a joke to think of David Haye
being called a world champion, but he is in the WBA, even old Holyfield is some kind of champion,
i think its the WBF? but its still a lot better thanit was 100 years ago......
 

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"Boxing is still dirty, but it's better than its ever been today"

I don't know about that, Lost. At least in the old days the boxing mobsters had more or less the good taste to stay in the shadows - or under the ring, as in this case - but now they're right in your face. In most of the big fights there's career criminal Don King's ugly mug center stage on tv!
 

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" it's a joke to think of David Haye..."

In the old days would paying customers have put up with bs like that Haye-Harrison pretend fight? They probably would have rioted and demanded their money back and tried to lynch the two of them - instead of falling all over themselves cheering for some burrhead from Africa because he speaks with a British accent.
 
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ww said:
"Boxing is still dirty, but it's better than its ever been today"

I don't know about that, Lost. At least in the old days the boxing mobsters had more or less the good taste to stay in the shadows - or under the ring, as in this case - but now they're right in your face. In most of the big fights there's career criminal Don King's ugly mug center stage on tv!
If it was too dirty the jews would have ran the Klitschkos out a long time ago...
but its still dirty. just not as bad as it was in the 60s, 70's and 80s.....Edited by: lost
 

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Jack Johnson is one of the four great black "ogres"Â￾ of anti-White boxing propaganda - the other three being Tom Molineaux (whose surname is spelled variously), Cassius Clay ("dat be a slave name, an' I ain't no slave!"Â￾) and Mike Tyson. Johnson, Clay and Tyson are posited as the ultimate fighters of their eras and their names are virtual synonyms for the pinnacle of devastating, unparalleled boxing excellence, the latter two in popular culture, and the former in more specialised circles.


Tom Molineaux, the Virginian ex-slave, is a special case, for he personifies the image of the naturally superior black fighter who was cheated of his rightful victory by jealous, bigoted Whites - he is a metaphor for the idea that if only they were permitted to compete on an equal footing, blacks would have always dominated boxing and, by extension, other sports.

Molineaux lost both of his celebrated bareknuckle bouts with the famous English Regency era champion Tom Cribb, yet the tendentious accounts of these events and the subsequent mythology which arose around them provided an eerie precursor to the anti-White boxing journalism of the twentieth and early twenty first century.

The first Cribb-Molineaux fight took place in torrential rain in early December 1810. Despite the fact that Cribb won, the "popular opinion"Â￾ was that Molineaux had been "robbed"Â￾ and had technically defeated his White opponent, who supposedly only managed to come up to scratch after members of the crowd invaded the ring, shouting "racist abuse"Â￾ and possibly breaking one of the black's fingers. Cribb's seconds then accused Molineaux of having bullets concealed in his hands, thus allowing the champion additional time to recover. As things went, the purportedly superior Molineaux was beaten about twenty five minutes later.

This was the first in a long line of excuses made for the defeats of "megastar"Â￾ black boxers - many accounts cite both the crowd disturbance and the weather conditions as reasons for Molineaux's failure to beat Cribb. Modern works revel in referring to the black as the "legitimate"Â￾ champion who was denied the title because of the colour of skin. Molineaux always receives more than his fair share of paragraphs in histories of pugilism, with all of the accompanying implications of dishonourable White conduct which prevented a black from taking his "rightful" place as champion - yet the solid fact remains that he lost...

Funnily enough, the second Cribb-Molineaux fight a year later receives far less attention and analysis, for Cribb knocked the black out cold with a huge left hander, breaking Molineaux's jaw in two places. The unconscious negro paladin was ignominiously carried from the ring like a huge sack of spuds and, upon examination, was found to have also suffered several busted ribs as a result of Cribb's unrelenting barrage of punishing body shots.

The references to Johnson "deliberately"Â￾ losing to Willard are similar examples of the meticulous long-standing maintenance of the "black boxing myth"Â￾. They also provide an insight into the black mind - as the black's entire ego is buttressed by his "athletic prowess", he must convince others, and especially himself, that he did not actually lose legitimately.

I guess that if things continue the way they are, future boxing annals shall insinuate that most of the Klitschko brothers' black opponents were threatened or bribed to lose bya "racist boxing elite". I'm sure that these photographs won't turn up in the said annals:

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Great post, Rebajlo!
 

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Yes, excellent post!



"Cribb
recovered and was able to continue. Molineaux still remained favourite
to win but unluckily he slipped and hit his head on one of the ring
posts. He fought on but by the 39th round he was unable to defend
himself and Cribb was declared the winner.
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"The return
fight took place at Thistleton Gap in Leicestershire on 28th September,
1811. A record 15,000 people watched the fight. In the sixth round Cribb
hit Molineaux with a low blow. He never fully recovered from this punch..."</font>

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/SLAmolineaux.htm





He lost because of a racist white guy fighting dirty and a racist ring post.





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Very good post Rebajlo!
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, As far ashow the media will spin boxing history in thefuture,
I look for the significance's of the eastern europeans [like the Klitschkos] to be played down in this era, and someone like David Hayewill get most of the ink from the media, probably they will start
at first suggesting that the "cowardly white Klitschkos" ducked the "Black fighter" David Haye, and so that made him the true champion of this era...
 

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Informative post, Rebaljo!

If you truly seek an utterly putrid taste of Afrocentric boxing revisionist history, perhaps you could view Ken Burns' lengthy documentary concerning Jack Johnson, entitled; "Unforgivable Blackness."Â￾

The narrator of the documentary begins nearly every single segment with "Jack Johnson was once again in trouble with authorities for having sex with white women."Â￾

When describing one of Johnson "public training sessions"Â￾ in the weeks leading up to a fight in Australia, the narrator mentions how the white Aussie women "flocked"Â￾ to see Johnson training, supposedly captivated with his "hulking"Â￾ physique and "handsome"Â￾ face (despite the obvious fact that Johnson was chubby, toothless, bald, and had a monstrous face).

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I was watching another documentary regarding Johnson's odious life in which the same incident in Australia is described"¦an obese, elderly Jew is being questioned as to "why"Â￾ Aussie women "adored"Â￾ Johnson. He happily responded that "they thought that black men had larger penises than white men."Â￾Yeah, right.

According to Johnson himself, he would routinely "wrap his penis with many layers of gauze"Â￾ beneath his boxing trunks in order to "astonish whites."Â￾

Johnson was, beyond a doubt, a malevolent person (well, creature). When one begins to examine his life, it's no revelation to realize why this "man"Â￾ has been so venerated by our Yiddish overlords and their anti-white contraption of deception, the Talmud-A-Vision.Edited by: Thrashen
 

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Thanks for the kind words, lads.


The Hock - the photos aren't bad, eh?
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The following could grace the cover of a tomeor two
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,maybe an edifyingphotographic picture bookfeaturing simple, non-taxingcaptions in easy-to-read large printentitled"TheNegro Boy's Big Book Of Boxing - The Ugly Black Truth About Our Coloured Heroes Of The Ring":

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Thrashen - I have already seen"Unforgivable Blackness" (via YouTube) quite a while ago, unfortunately ruining my digestion in the process. Ken Burns' so-called "documentaries" areclassic anti-White affairs carefully calculated to induce guilt, self-loathing and a sense of general inferiority among Whites, and Americans in particular.

Burns has, however,scored a few own goals. His "Jazz" series, in which his co-producer and"consultant" Wynton Marsalis, an egotisticalfellow who grates on the nerves of many black jazz musicians, indulged his own skewed vision of the development of the style was heavily criticised by both blacks and Whites. Marsalis (surprise, surprise) convenientlytrivialised or neglected the contribution of White musicians to the genesis and subsequent evolution of the genre. I refuse to watch even the smallest clip of his "Civil War" series, as the commercials always seemed to feature photographs of black faces...
 
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