America's perpetual-war machine

[Jimmy Chitwood]

it appears the next "imminent threat" that needs thousands of White soldiers to die so that jew bankers and White sell-outs can make a profit is ... Iran.

at least, the armada of US and Israeli warships that are headed there, along with all the other chickenhawk rants, seem to point that direction.

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
June 20, 2010


More than twelve U.S. and Israeli warships, including an aircraft carrier, passed through the Suez Canal on Friday and are headed for the Red Sea. "According to eyewitnesses, the U.S. battleships were the largest to have crossed the Canal in many years,"Â￾ reported the London-based newspaper al-Quds al-Arabi on Saturday.



The Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported Egyptian opposition members criticized the government for cooperating with the U.S. and Israeli forces and allowing the passage of the ships through Egyptian territorial waters. The Red Sea is the most direct route to the Persian Gulf from the Mediterranean.


Retired Egyptian General Amin Radi, chairman of the national security affairs committee, told the paper that "the decision to declare war on Iran is not easy, and Israel, due to its wild nature, may start a war just to remain the sole nuclear power in the region,"Â￾ according to Yedioth Internet, an Israeli news site.


The passage of a warship armada through the Suez Canal and headed for the Persian Gulf and Iran is apparently not deemed important enough to be reported by the corporate media in the United States.


Egypt recently rejected an Israeli request to prevent Gaza aid ships from passing through the Suez Canal. According to a report by al-Jazeera, Israel appealed to Egyptians asking them to prevent the passage of Iranian ships through the Suez Canal. The Egyptians responded that due to international agreements on movement through the Suez Canal, Egypt cannot prevent ships from passing through the canal unless a ship belongs to a state that is at war with Egypt. Iran and Egypt are not at war.


The United States and Israel, the sole nuclear-armed power in the Middle East, have not ruled out a military strike to destroy Iran's nuclear program.


A number of Israeli politicians and scholars have admitted Israel has used its nuclear weapons for "compellent purposes,"Â￾ in short forcing others to accept Israeli political demands.


Israel's threats to use nuclear weapons have increased significantly since it was discovered in 2002 that Iran was building uranium enrichment facilities. Israel's former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon "called on the international community to target Iran as soon as the imminent conflict with Iraq is complete,"Â￾ the Sunday Times reported on November 5, 2002. The United States invaded Iraq on March 20, 2003.



Earlier this month Israel leaked to the press that they had permission from Saudi Arabia to use their air space to attack Iran. "In the week that the UN Security Council imposed a new round of sanctions on Tehran, defence sources in the Gulf say that Riyadh has agreed to allow Israel to use a narrow corridor of its airspace in the north of the country to shorten the distance for a bombing run on Iran,"Â￾ the Sunday Times reported on June 12. On June 14, the ambassador of Saudi Arabia to UK Prince Mohammed bin Nawaf issued a categorical denial of the report.


On June 17, Iran's parliament warned it will respond in kind to inspection of its ships under a fourth round of sanctions imposed on the country by the UN Security Council. "Even if one Iranian ship is stopped for security-check, we will act likewise and thoroughly inspect any (western) ship passing through the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz,"Â￾ member of the Iranian parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Commission Hossein Ebrahimi said.


Also on Saturday, Iran accused the United States of "deception"Â￾ and insisted its missile program is for self-defense after a top U.S. official claimed that Iran had the capacity to attack Europe. "The Islamic Republic's missile capability has been designed and implemented to defend against any military aggression and it does not threaten any nation,"Â￾ Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi said in a statement carried by state media.


Vahidi announced on April 10 that Iran will use all available options to defend itself if the country comes under a military attack. "Americans have said they will use all options against Iran, we announce that we will use all options to defend ourselves,"Â￾ Vahidi told the Tehran Times.

of course, "our" American media is lapdoggishly reporting that it is Iran who is the bad guy ...

 

[Solomon Kane]

Yes,...although it's nothing short of a miracle that Iran has notalready been attacked. Keep praying, Guys...

 

[JReb1]

I though for sure that GWB was going to preemptively strike Iran because their leader is a "holocaust denier" that wants to wipe Israel off the map even though they lack the capability and haven't attacked any country which an unstable president would've no doubt done long ago... Israel is the most unstable country in the ME and they have the most nukes and are the most likely to use them IMHO.

 

[jaxvid]

I think it's pretty obvious the jewish personal police security force (US military) isn't going anywhere EVER, until the area has been made safe for israel. This country has no interest in either Iraq and Iran or Afganistan and is only at war there to keep them busy until israel needs them elsewhere in the area (Iran). A republican president and a democratic "anti-war" president have made that clear. What's so hard to understand?

 

[Don Wassall]

There's also the Empire's strategy of controlling oil and other resources in Central Asia, and part of that strategy entails encircling Russia along withdenying oil sources in the region to China. And of course perpetual war is good business for the forces in control -- as Justin Raimondo recently wrote, the only domestic industry the government won't outsource is that of weapons making.

Chris Floyd (chris-floyd.com) is a lefty populist who writes a lot of great stuff on this. He's one of the few writers on the left (or the "right") who doesn't go along with the post-9/11 agenda of perpetual war, replete with death squads, targeted assasinations, torture, extraordinary rendition, killing of civilians, war by drone, and all the rest of it. Here's one recent piece he wrote: http://www.chris-floyd.com/articles/1-latest-news/1975-war-on-the-world-obamas-surge-in-state-terror.html

 

[j41181]

Iran would be foolish to make the first strike, they know better than to. I'm counting on Israel to make the first strike, it'll add more resentment to their already Nazi-like image.

 

[Don Wassall]

Iran would be foolish to make the first strike, they know better than to.

You think?

 

[jcolec02]

Iran would be foolish to make the first strike, they know better than to. 

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Actually, since the U.S. is more than likely going to strike against them in some fashion anyway, why not make the first strike?

 

[Don Wassall]

Iran would be foolish to make the first strike, they know better than to.

You think?

Actually, since the U.S. is more than likely going to strike against them in some fashion anyway, why not make the first strike?

I would hope that's a tongue in cheek suggestion. If serious, how and what should Iran "strike first"? Let's see, Iran has a third world military and no nukes; Israel has a first world military and roughly 200 nukes; the U.S. spends more on its military and weaponry than the next 20 largest spending countries combined, has top of the line weapons that no other country has, and has some 10,000 nukes. Now what exactly would you have Iran's "first strike" consist of and what should Iran expect by way of a response by the U.S. and Israel?Edited by: Don Wassall

 

[j41181]

Don Wassall,

I simply said Iran would NEVER make the first strike, despite it's constant verbal attack on Israel and the West. What would they gain by doing so? Their current stance is actually making the Israel and the Socialist West look stupid. If Israel or the US make the first strike, that'll make them look stupid. None of the UN sanctions have any effect on Iran thanks to Russia and China's unconditional support. The Zionists/Globalists are still scratching their heads as to how to deal with Iran. I'm NOT supporting Iran in any way, they're simply a BIG THORN against the Zionists/Globalists.

 

[jcolec02]

I'm just saying that if there gonna get attacked anyway, why not make it worth it...I mean what did Iraq do to deserve us invading them? Nothing, im sure if Saddam could have done it over again he would have done something to damage the U.S. or Israel just to get back at us.

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

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Actually, since the U.S. is more than likely going to strike against them in some fashion anyway, why not make the first strike?

surely this isn't a serious suggestion.

the most likely scenario in my mind is some sort of false flag by the jews (and their little bitch boys the US politicians and military) that paints Iran as the aggressor. or perhaps there will be some staged violent "civil protests," thatinstigates demands for an internationalpolice action of a "helpful" nature. then, the US will either invade to "liberate" the "oppressed" people of the "evil" Iran or "help restore order" then stick around for perpetuity (Iraq and Afghanistan, anyone?).

as has been shown so many times before, the sheeplewho make upthe USA citizenry will be too stupid to remember that Iran is a sovereign nation with a legally elected government. no, instead the jews will cry about being threatened, and more White American soldiers will die.

i'm sure it will just be a coincidence that America will sieze the oil fields inside Iran that the "evil" Iranians somehow feel belong to their own nation and don't want controlled by the jews and Yanks.

 

[Europe]

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Actually, since the U.S. is more than likely going to strike against them in some fashion anyway, why not make the first strike?

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<div>the most likely scenario in my mind is some sort of false flag by the jews (and their little bitch boys the US politicians and military) that paints Iran as the aggressor. or perhaps there will be some staged violent "civil protests," that instigates demands for an international police action of a "helpful" nature. then, the US will either invade to "liberate" the "oppressed" people of the "evil" Iran or "help restore order" then stick around for perpetuity (Iraq and Afghanistan, anyone?). </div>
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<div>as has been shown so many times before, the sheeple who make up the USA citizenry will be too stupid to remember that Iran is a sovereign nation with a legally elected government. no, instead the jews will cry about being threatened, and more White American soldiers will die.</div>
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<div>i'm sure it will just be a coincidence that America will sieze the oil fields inside Iran that the "evil" Iranians somehow feel belong to their own nation and don't want controlled by the jews and Yanks.

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It's like when we get mad at Venezuela for controlling their oil the way they see fit. We have only become more dependent on foreign oil since the energy crisis of the 70's.What great leadership we have.

 

[Don Wassall]

Don Wassall,

I simply said Iran would NEVER make the first strike, despite it's constant verbal attack on Israel and the West. What would they gain by doing so? Their current stance is actually making the Israel and the Socialist West look stupid. If Israel or the US make the first strike, that'll make them look stupid. None of the UN sanctions have any effect on Iran thanks to Russia and China's unconditional support. The Zionists/Globalists are still scratching their heads as to how to deal with Iran. I'm NOT supporting Iran in any way, they're simply a BIG THORN against the Zionists/Globalists.

And I simply pointed out that saying Iran won't strike first is a master of the obvious statement. Of course they won't, it would be instant suicide.

As far as Israel and the "Socialist West" (actually it's the U.S. and Israel agitating against Iran, not the "West"), Israel couldn't care less who thinks theylook "stupid." They do as they please; the only thing that will stop a war of aggression against Iran is if Israel and the U.S. believe the possible negative consequences (oil skyrocketing in price thus throwing the U.S. economy into a much worse depression, imperial over-reach, possible devastation of Tel Aviv by non-nuclear weapons, too much uncertainty in predicting the outcome, etc.) outweigh the perceived benefits from castrating Iran the way Iraq has been.

Iran is a "thorn" because it insists on retaining its sovereignty rather than capitulating to the one world system.

 

[Don Wassall]

I'm just saying that if there gonna get attacked anyway, why not make it worth it...I mean what did Iraq do to deserve us invading them? Nothing, im sure if Saddam could have done it over again he would have done something to damage the U.S. or Israel just to get back at us.

How do they make it worth it? That's like telling a first grader to throw the first punch against a professional hit man. Hillary Clinton has already said the U.S. would turn Iran into "glass" should that nationget out of line. John McCainsang the lyrics of the Beach Boys' "Barbara Ann"as "Bomb Bomb Iran" during the '08 presidential campaign. Washington and Tel Aviv would love it if Iran acted as the aggressor as they would retaliate with overwhelming destructive force on a scale the world has never seen before, many many times more devastating than what Japan experienced at the end of WWII. Sadly, both wings of the one-party system have an ever growing bloodlust for war and devastation against Third World countries. Would you want to be living in Iran if it attacked Israel or the U.S.?

 

[jcolec02]

No I wouldn't, and I certainly don't think its in Iran's best interest to attack Israel but think of it like this: if your Ahmadinejad you know that more than likely your days are numbered anyways because the U.S. is basically on the verge of war with Iran. The reason for this is because his regime is opposed to the Zionist government of Israel, not because of the Iranian people. So if you know your not going to be around much longer anyway, and you know that the U.S. is targeting you specifically you might as well do something about it because even if you do what you are supposed to according to what the U.S. and Israel want, your probably going to be attacked anyway. If you need evidence of this just look at Iraq and Saddam Hussein. We basically did the same to him and he posed no threat whatsoever to the U.S. and we attacked regardless. Unless of course you believe the "Weapons of Mass Destruction" excuse.

 

[jcolec02]

Also Don, I meant to ask what you thought a potential war with Iran would do to U.S. - Russian relations.

 

[jcolec02]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2QMQi-m63E

 

[jcolec02]

I forgot how to post a link that you can click on...

 

[Westside]

Listen the Arabs and Persians (Iran) are a bunch of rumbling, bumbling and stumbling fellows in the art of waging total war. Iraq and Iran were at war for over 8 years and accomplished absolutely nothing except death on both sides. A stalemate if you will.

The Iranian regime will most likely import a functional rocket with a lethal warhead from the Russians or Chinese and launch it at the Star of David. Consequences, who cares, I(them) was kinda getting tired of banging my wife or assorted whores. No, there is nothing like 75 fresh virgins to breakin in the after life. Death is good.

Israel will suffer at least 3 million deaths. The U.S. will rain down an ungodly storm of conventional warheads on Iran. Once the dust settles, install an American puppet government. The common Iranian folk will not disapprove, they love western culture as West Los Angeles will attest. The Russians and Chinese will blink, and life goes on. The best thing.....75 cent a gallon gas. I can start driving my 66 Mustang V8 on a daily basis without a care in the world.

Israel will lick its wounds and look to the U.S. to recover with good reason, she is an ally and we should help.

 

[Westside]

Speaking of glass, I am seriously contemplating getting all of my windows done "green style" and getting that Obama tax "credit" this year. You know, that army of contractors willing and able to rid you of those inefficient old school windows and install the "green ones." Utter horse mature. But I will get one done and claim the other fifteen done to my CPA and get the $1500.00. Obama if you are going to roll us, I will roll you with all of that printed money you have been dishing out.

 

[Don Wassall]

Israel will suffer at least 3 million deaths. The U.S. will rain down an ungodly storm of conventional warheads on Iran. Once the dust settles, install an American puppet government. The common Iranian folk will not disapprove, they love western culture as West Los Angeles will attest. The Russians and Chinese will blink, and life goes on. The best thing.....75 cent a gallon gas. I can start driving my 66 Mustang V8 on a daily basis without a care in the world.

Israel will lick its wounds and look to the U.S. to recover with good reason, she is an ally and we should help.

Lol. That's the same nonsense about the price of gas Americans were fed before the invasion and occupation of Iraq. And what Iranian weapons are going to cause 3 million Israeli deaths?

Seems like you'restill guzzling down a lotmore of the same kool-aid from the Zionist and Christian Zionist propagandists.

 

[FootballDad]

The only way we're going to significantly reduce energy costs is to actually go get the oil and resources that we have RIGHT HERE in the US. But, unfortunately, the collective of leftists, globalists, and neocons have hamstrung our ability to do so, for their various divergent reasons. Leftists to reduce wealth (for the "little people" at least), globalists to make the US more dependent on globalist organizations and reduce our sovereignty, and neocons so that we can "protect our national interests" by going on these sorts of foolish campaigns. And that's just the tip of the iceberg as for reasons.

 

[Observer]

Meddling in the Mid-East: "Japheth... shall dwell in the tents of Shem" Gen.9:27

 

[Westside]

Don, no guzzling here I was attempting to be funny. Of course I don't believe gas will ever 75 cents unless USA starts drilling here big time. Also, in my comedic post I said the Iranians would use imported technology from Russia / China to bomb Israel. Just a little clarification.