White Quarterbacks

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  1. TomIron361

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    I agree with you but I will say Russell Wilson is the best of the black QB's. But I think this'll be the first year he's with Seattle that he doesn't have an excellent team behind him. Let's see how he does in such a scenario.
     
  2. Extra Point

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    Landry Jones remains a free agent. The Steelers cut him. There is no way Jones is not good enough to at least be a backup somewhere.

    The Steelers kept an inferior, second year AA QB instead of Jones. This was an unwise move for a team which may be in playoff contention. They should have kept the proven veteran.

    If Jones wasn't white he'd be on a team right now.
     
  3. La France Blanche

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    Why don't the Bills sign Landry Jones?

    (we already know)
     
  4. Extra Point

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    It's incomprehensible that they wouldn't want to sign Jones. Why throw your potential franchise quarterback to the wolves when you don't have to.
     
  5. Extra Point

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    Football Dad's points are well taken. Keenum is currently the starter for the Denver Broncos. If the 2012 draft was done over Keenum might very well have been taken in the first round, second at the latest.

    Keenum had a great college career. If he was black he would have been hyped far more than he was.
     
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  7. Extra Point

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    Brett Rypien went undrafted in the 2019 draft. He was signed as an UDFA by the Broncos who are said to have guaranteed him 154,000 dollars.

    I think Rypien was underrated and should have been drafted. He's a good bet to be a high end backup and spot starter. There's also an chance he might develop into a starter.

    To me that makes him worth a mid round pick. The NFL disagrees. We'll see who's right, me or the NFL.
     
  8. The Sapient

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    Not sure if this post should go in the white QB thread or the black QB thread, but Eric Mangini knows the score.

    Take a listen, specifically at the 3mins 40 second mark:
     
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  9. Carolina Speed

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    Yes, Mangini gets it.
    These guys are bringing up whose the greatest QB this early in their careers. Marino is always brought up. Yes he had a great start and had great stats, but no Super Bowl. If you want to talk about great starts, you have to put Roger Staubach in the conversation who no one ever talks about.
    Although 29 years old, because he fulfilled his duty to serve his country after graduating from Navy with the Heisman Trophy. Staubach became the Dallas Cowboys starter in mid season after the first seven games, and won 10 straight including the Super Bowl.. He was the Super Bowl MVP, becoming the first player to win the Heisman, win the Super Bowl and win the SB MVP! Now that's one of the greatest starts to a career ever. Is Staubach ever considered the best ever early in his career?
    All things considered, I would put Staubach in my top 5 all time QB's!
    In roughly 11 seasons, only playing in 8 full time, Staubach was in or a part of 5 Super Bowls. Winning two and a dropped pass in the end zone, see Jackie Smith, from winning three over Don's beloved Steelers. BTW, Pittsburgh had way more over all talent than Dallas, but Dallas should have won that Super Bowl.
    BTW, if you younger gentlemen here want to know how a man should conduct his life. Do some reading on Staubach, and his story on a "A Football Life" is pretty good as well.
    My top 5/5B QB's of all time.
    1. Tom Brady
    2. Joe Montana
    3. John Elway
    4. Peyton Manning
    5. Roger Staubach
    5.B. Johnny Unitas
     
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  10. Carolina Speed

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    …..and another thing
    Richest NFL football players in the world.
    1. Roger Staubach; Net Worth $600 million.
    2.?
    He's intelligent. Parlaying what little money he made in the NFL into a financial Empire!
     
  11. Don Wassall

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    Mangini is the only Belichick associate who hasn't turned out to be a Caste cuck. Maybe Josh McDaniels also won't be the second time around when he decides to be a head coach again. Mangini should still be a head coach, don't know if he's been blackballed because of how relatively fair he was, especially in Cleveland, or because he just doesn't want to, but it's too bad he isn't still coaching.

    BTW, I don't know who that Nick guy is in the video, but his argument is that Mahomes is the greatest QB of all time after just 20 games. Simply ludicrous. And he's a loudmouth argumentative type, which is so commonplace in the media and makes the strident back and forth crap on TV unwatchable.
     
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  12. wile

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    I heard a lot of that nonsense on talking heads shows is producer initiated especially of those with little leverage in their contracts. You know revenge cuz Hitler and stuff.
     
  13. La France Blanche

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    The delusion of "It's" Pat!/Sideshow Bob/******* Man (so many good nicknames for him) being "on his way to becoming the greatest QB ever" is based on a combination of blackworship, short attention spans, emotion-based thinking (actually, more like feeling) that gives rise to hysteria and exaggeration, and last but not least the simple fact that many young fans don't bother to research athletes who played before they were born. Everything's all about the here and now to them. As a younger fan myself, I try to watch film of the old all-time greats and become more familiar with them.

    Take a good, young, rising star white quarterback like Carson Wentz. Great football player, lots of upside, deserves a lot of praise...but I don't think any of us would say he's "on his way to becoming the greatest QB ever" or even that he's a guaranteed Hall of Famer, because it's too soon for that kind of talk. These Mahomes fanboys and fangirls have no sense of perspective and are probably the kind of people for whom the ten-second soundbite that's become so common on TV news was tailor-made.

    I won't talk about greatest ever or Hall of Famer, but I'll make a prediction here and now that in 10 years, Carson Wentz will have a record that shows him to clearly be a better quarterback than Pat Mahomes.
     
  14. Westside

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    La France, noticed your new avatar. Is that you? if so, great physic.
     
  15. Extra Point

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    Austin Davis and Landry Jones are two white quarterbacks that are no longer NFL players. Based on merit they would have backup jobs somewhere. They're certainly better than some quarterbacks still in the league.
     
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    Well, you know that they might be decent quarterbacks, but what about upside?? The darker-hued variety might suck now, but they have the potential to be Tom Brady, Warren Moon, Joe Montana, Roger Staubach, Barry Sanders and Emmitt Smith all rolled into one dynamic player! They just need the right staff and right environment to bring it out from inside of them. Now why would you want a stiff like Davis or Jones when you can have that??
     
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    Does anybody think Johnny Manziel could still play, I think he could especially with the Cardinals system. Tim Tebow?
     
  18. Truthteller

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    Don originally posted this in the week 13 thread. I moved it here, because I wanted to "lock in" the words put forth by Weenieworld, as it appears someone there has deleted and changed the "fraud" comments originally posted November 29th from Drew Locke's news page?

    They are now a bit less derogatory towards the rookie quarterback. I wonder when the jackals changed their scathing comments, during or after today's Texans game? At least for today, Drew shoved the deleted "fraud" comments right up their @sses.
     
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  19. La France Blanche

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    Now comrade, don't you know that Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia? :afro:
     
  20. Truthteller

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    Grey Cup Champion Winnipeg Blue Bombers could lose dual-threat quarterback and rising CFL star Chris Streveler, as NFL teams are taking a closer look. Saw him play a bit last season and was very impressed with him as a runner. He is drawing Taysom Hill comparisons, due to his size, 4.44 speed and athletic ability. Streveler played his college football at Minnesota and South Dakota


    Also, three months ago I posted that the Steelers would immediately try to sign Landry Jones after Big Ben was injured. At first glance, it seemed I was way off, but I was not. XFL commissioner Oliver Luck has said the Steelers wanted him back, but the XFL refused to let him leave. Has to be tough for Landry, as he could've revived his NFL career. But he did sign with XFL, so Luck made him honor his commitment. Jones will be playing for his ex-college head coach Bob Stoops, with the Dallas Renegades.
     
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    Excellent work Truthteller. Made my day. Streveler was mentioned here in the 2018 NFL draft thread by CF member Dolphin when he ran a 4.36 40 at a pro day. He is 6'1" and 211 pounds ( sturdy size) and if I knew he was playing in the CFL I might have tuned in.

    The Taysom Hill experiment has been a wild success in my book. Hell in their last game he made out like Julian Edelman on a couple of clutch catches including a 28 yard TD. So logic dictates the clever teams will want to have their own "Taysom Hill" on their squad. Imagine the possibilities? It gives an offense that extra edge and these days every little boost can be the difference between winning and losing.

    But will up the ass caste teams be willing to cut slack for a top of the line white athlete that might upset the fragile locker room politics where the star skill players are overwhelmingly black? Maybe some teams might since as is the case with Taysom in reality he barely plays.

    Us men we always hear the term balls. Who has them and who doesn't? Well let's see if an NFL team can show some balls and good judgement by placing Chris Streveler on their squad and utilize his athletic skills to the fullest.
     
  22. Leonardfan

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    The three white rookie QBs that played for significant stretches this season should all have promising futures in the league.

    Daniel Jones ends up replacing Eli Manning (who is rumored to be contemplating retirement) in New York. Jones showed some warts in terms of ball security but as a rookie that is to be expected. He was able to come in and learn a new offensive system and put up some very good numbers, make all the throws, showcase his athletic ability as the Giants build towards the future.

    Gardner Minishew II really came out of nowhere - his rookie season was very good especially when compared to 1st overall pick Kyler Murray. Hopefully the Jaguars stand pat with Minishew who has developed a cult following in Jacksonville and Nick Foles as the steadfast/reliable veteran presence as the number 2. Minishew is alot of fun to watch and in a weak AFC South I feel he can ascend to being the top QB in the division. Hopefully ownership appreciates the potential late round steal that have with Minishew.

    Drew Lock is in somewhat of a similar situation as Jones where he is replacing a veteran QB in Joe Flacco. Ideally the Broncos stand pat - keep Flacco as their number 2 QB and let Lock continue to develop. He has all the tools to be a very good QB and although it has been a small sample size I think Denver will hopefully invest in him and focus on his development.
     
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    A pocket passing QB in the NFL must have an higher football IQ then the so called duel threat QB who are almost always better runners than passers...........and anyone running with a football in the NFL is highly exposed to career ending injury.

    So if you have a pool of 100 QBs to pick from..............and one group has 5o who are Black and the other group has 50 who are White, which group would you pick from for a pocket passing QB verses a duel threat running QB if you have no other parameters to leverage in your choice?

    If racial genetic differences didn't exist you wouldn't have to concern yourself with that distinction..............but you do, don't you?.

    Anyone who thinks different is fooling themselves...........but if you happen to even mention that on a Talmud TV football game broadcast as an announcer you'd be fired before the next play broke out of the huddle.
     
  25. Extra Point

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    Here's another absurd article suggesting that a team might want to move on from a white quarterback, for no discernible reason. This time the target is 3 time Pro-Bowler Derek Carr. This push to replace them is being done to every white quarterback nowadays. It's part of The Great Replacement. The anti-whites want all white people replaced by non-whites and they certainly want all white quarterbacks replaced by non-white quarterbacks.

    This year Carr had a 70.4% completion percentage, over 4,000 yards, a 21-8 TD to INT ratio and a 100.8 quarterback rating. That's a pretty good season. There's no reason to replace Carr. It's ridiculous.

    But we know why...

    https://raiderswire.usatoday.com/20...-the-biggest-question-mark-heading-into-2020/
     

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