Black QBs in the NFL

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  1. Tannehill17

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    This idiot was supposedly offered to play at Stanford but chose Free Shoes U instead. Yeah, like I belive that.
     
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    2012: RG3 (not in the league anymore)
    2013: Kaepernick (not in the league anymore)
    2014: None I guess? Still riding the Scam, Wilson, and Kaepernick train.
    2015: Winston (might not even have a job anymore)
    2016: Prescott (now well below average)
    2017: Watson (now below average)
    2018: Mahomes

    Anybody else seeing a pattern here? The media and DWF/cuck fans need a black QB every year to continue to push and glorify black QBs as a whole, get more pushed into college scholarships, then to the NFL etc. Expect Mahomes to only go down from here, maybe even be out of the league in half a decade. Also expect Lamar Jackson, if he’s not completely inept to ever start, be in this long line of players in 2019/20.
     
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    Speaking of Mahomes, there is a passing resemblance here:
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    I've noticed two patterns with these black QB's. Their first year is often their best year, after which other teams take away whatever the one thing is that they're good at and squeeze them straight to mediocrity or to the bench. I also don't think it's a coincidence that so many of them get drafted onto championship level teams. The Titans could have won a Super Bowl if it wasn't for AHDIW. Kapernick was on a really good 49ers team, Russell Wilson in Seattle, Cam Newton in Carolina, and probably others I can't think of right now.
     
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    Mahomes is half white. Maybe that's why he's not a complete buffoon.
     
  8. Freethinker

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    We are all familiar with the NFL phenomenon of wide receivers that have trouble catching the ball (their main job description). Well now we have quarterbacks who have trouble throwing the football. See this blurb on Eraserhead:

     
  9. Don Wassall

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    Who could have ever imagined that a "blank canvass" drafted in the first round would have trouble throwing the ball?
     
  10. Shadowlight

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    I can imagine this. After all the drills and the practices the coaches are thinking to themselves that between Jackson and rookie McSorley, neither of which would be confused with Tom Brady, that McSorley is the better and smarter passer and just as good of a runner. So why not elevate him?

    Not so fast. There is the locker room black politics and we all know which way that wind will be blowing. So the lesser more media friendly QB Jackson becomes their man when it is all said and done. NFL teams worry about the motivation behind their mostly black squads knowing full well that white OL will block like crazy no matter who is starting. So they don't have any concerns about white motivation. But they carefully avoid having white RBs and are leery of running white QBs who get a chance to improvise and make TV ready highlight plays. They want to reserve that stuff for their black brothers. Don't want to upset the black run locker rooms now do we?
     
  11. Leonardfan

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    Luck's retirement really amplifies the attack on the QB position. We are seeing average to mediocre non-white black QBs getting advantages at the position that they have at every other position since the beginning of the caste system. QBs like Prescott are being viewed as franchise type QBs. Winston will be propped up by Arians all year it seems, Watson is a media hype job, Mahomes is the best QB ever to play in the NFL according to DWFs and the sports media, Brissett is being viewed as a viable alternative to one Luck who carried that team during his career with the Colts, Eraserhead is a blank canvas which is apparently a good thing. Haskins is all upside and every red flag around Kyler Murray has been erased. Newton is probably in just as bad if not worse shape than Luck but to his credit he decided to continue playing. It will interesting to see how he pans out in 2019.

    Quite a few black back ups in the league now too - Idler Arm in San Diego along with Oafdale Jones, Geno Smiff in Seattle, the immortal and untouchable Teddy Bridgewater, Dobbs and Kizer. Outside of Geno Smiff all of the other QBs are backing up the elite white QBs in their mid to upper 30s. I do hope we see some cleansing of these guys from rosters but it is unlikely this year. I think Kizer will hopefully get axed but who knows if the current Packers regime will just backfill him with another quotaback. Dobbs seems to also be getting a push from Rudolph. Every year it seems that a non-white QB needs to be a 1st round pick to fulfill a franchise's need for a QB. We will have a whole season of "Tank for Tua" and hype around the Utah St quotaback. Just a worsening state of affairs. At first glance we do have alot of depth again at the position and hopefully some of the white QBs rise to the challenge and work their way up to the first round. Right now Herbert is the only white QB being labeled as a surefire first round pick.
     
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    It looks like 10 black starting QBs at the moment, a record, plus Mariota, which means the quarterback position is now less than 2/3 White among starters.

    Of the 10 black starters -- Murray, Jackson, Newton, Prescott, Watson, Brissett, Mahomes, Wilson, Winston, and Haskins (once he takes over in Washington at some point in 2019) -- only Brissett and possibly Winston aren't strongly entrenched but both will likely start all season for their respective teams. Mariota could lose his starting job to Ryan Tannehill eventually but he's Poly-White not black. The Caste System has been chipping away relentlessly at White QBs for decades, even changing college offenses to do so, and finally strong inroads are being made that aren't likely to be reversed but rather continue to be increased over time.
     
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    All indications suggest an increase in black QBs at the college and NFL levels. No questions about it.

    The 1990's typical outlay would have teams built around mainly white offensive linemen and usually a drop back white QB who had pin point accuracy and downfield arm strength. This combination kept the black RBs and WRs quite happy as it would allow them to shine. Hence there was no rush to eliminate whites from those positions since black "stars" benefited greatly from the arrangement. Historically white offensive linemen have played their asses off for black stars.

    This black wide receiver being fed the ball dynamic is still around though and unlike other teammates they want the damn ball and if a honky can perform that job better than a black QB then they won't be bitching all that much.

    Still I gravely worry about these locker rooms. The NBA is quickly becoming a black incest laden league where white players are excluded to a certain degree and white owners passively watch it all happen on the sidelines. Baseball doesn't have that but they have another set of horrific issues that I need not bother going into now.

    Will the NFL finally tip over completely like the NBA and have the black players essentially dictate who gets to play and who doesn't as coaching staffs and ownership passively watch it all enfold hoping for the best? Black led NFL locker rooms already exist on certain teams although at various levels depending on the team. Hard to imagine rough and tumble players like Luke Kuechly of Carolina as some sort of wall mouse in the locker room.

    As black players become multi faceted millionaire media "celebrities" more than ever before I fear that the integrity of the game will be further damaged as the league descends into some sort of demigod racial experiment beyond what we have even witnessed to date.

    I think and hope reason and humanity will prevail and the league will situate itself and become more diverse with white players including those at taboo positions. And I don't think the "great white QB" will dry up and go away any time soon either despite the "increase" in non white QBs.
     
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    Colts just gave briskett a 2 year extension 30 mil bonus. What in the absolute F!? Their GM is on crack. This will backfire.
     
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    We can only hope. I don't want to see any player injured regardless of color but maybe sub-par play coupled with something non-serious would put in the "overachiever" at QB and he plays lights out. Indy's fan base is 95+% lilly White and they had a real all-pro in Luck. They were spoiled at QB at least. Maybe it would work itself out.
     
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    They just gave Brian Hoyer $12 million over 3 years with $9 million guaranteed. Paying both of them big money makes no sense. Well, paying BBQ Brisket that kind of money for any reason makes no sense, but...

    There's no logic behind this. Maybe the Colts have no faith in Briskett (for good reason) and therefore signed Hoyer, but at the same time they didn't want to bruise Briskett's ego, so they gave him a big contract.

    One expensive ego...
     
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    If the Colts want Trevor Lawrence, it makes perfect sense.
     
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    I still believe Paxton Lynch is good enough to at least be a backup in the NFL. I wonder what kind of influence Elway has on his inability to land a backup job.
     
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    Here's a pretty detailed article regarding Cam Newton's current plight. Is this the beginning of the end for Cam Newton?

    Story is penned by a Jewish writer, hardly a surprise, right? Actually, this story is surprising because the author, Geoff Schwartz, is a former NFL lineman, who last started 11 games for the Giants in 2015 -- brother Mitch still plays in the NFL.

    His surprising solution to getting Cam "turned around", is to have him run more?

    Retired NFL lineman Geoff Schwartz explains why the key to the Panthers turning things around is letting Newton run again ://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2019/9/13/20864483/cam-newton-panthers-health-injuries-arm-foot-future

    I assume if Cam/the Panthers coaches take Schwartz's advice, his career will end even sooner than anyone expects.


    Booth, one of Elway's contemporaries as a player, ex-Houston Oilers' quarterback Oliver Luck, is really doing his best to sign Paxton Lynch*. Luck actually acknowledged he would also love to sign Geno Smiff, if the Seahawks let him go. Catch is, Luck is the Commissioner of the XFL. So if Lynch wants to re-launch his NFL career, he might have to do it via the XFL. Not such a crazy idea, 1992 Denver Broncos 1st round pick/bust Tommy Maddox used the original XFL to get back to the NFL -- Maddox went from being unemployed for several years, to starting for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

    2 quick notes:

    Speaking of the Steelers, the XFL first major signing was Landry Jones, who's expected to be designated a XFL Franchise Player, meaning he could make at least $250,000 for the 10 game season. Wonder, with Big Ben out, would the Steelers consider bringing Jones back? I doubt it, but who knows?

    Also, XFL is reportedly going hard after another Jones -- Former Bills bust Cardale Jones, who was cut by the Chargers. Luck claims the AAF and original XFL went quickly down in flames, in part, due to poor or mediocre quarterbacks. So he's made it clear the XFL will pay much more for starting quarterbacks. $250,000 for starting quarterbacks, while majority of the players will make $75,000.

    * https://247sports.com/nfl/seattle-s...on-Lynch-QB-battle-XFL-Oliver-Luck-133338044/
     
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    Very unlikely. Just about everyone in Pittsburgh views Rudolph as a considerably better talent than Jones, and I agree. And I think there's a decent chance that Rudolph plays better than anyone expects; he has a lot of the same traits as Big Ben but is of course much younger and is very confident and ambitious.

    The Steelers activated Devlin Hodges off the practice squad today. If Rudolph goes down they might turn to Jones as a caretaker to run out the clock on what would then be a disastrous season, otherwise I can't see him returning to Pittsburgh.
     
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    Don, I was actually figuring the Steelers would consider Landry Jones as a veteran backup, not a starter in any way. I find it hard to believe they'd ever consider starting Hodges this season, if more injuries struck.

    P.S: Just looked him up and I'm somewhat surprised Hodges is white. Given his name, Devlin Hodges, and Tomlin's affinity for black backup quarterbacks, I figured he was probably black.
     
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    Devlin Hodges (Samford) was a Weekly fixture in College Football Re-Caps / FCS section the last few seasons . Had some video game like numbers. Should be interesting to see how the situation shakes out. He has the talent!

    The amount of busted coverages by the DB's early this season has been eye popping.
     
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    I agree - alot of the big plays by the quotabacks have been due to blown coverages and wide open receivers.
     
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    Gottcha. But the Steelers have made it pretty clear that they've moved on from Jones, that's why I can't see him coming back in any role.
     
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    I will third that motion. The DB play has been getting even worse. Where are the safeties? Most of the CBs are playing poorly. As the media drools over the QB play of the black youngsters nary a word is mentioned on the consistently horrible black DB play we see every week in the NFL and college.

    Not all black DBs are awful. Gilmore of the Pats is good and there are a few others. But most are either overrated or pug awful.
     

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