lumsdenpower
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Not a single white boxer in your USA lineup...
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Years of brainwashing by the American MSM still has a hold on white males regarding certain sports. Like basketball, boxing and to a large degree football. The Europeans accomplishments in boxing have yet to crack this hold on White American youth mentallity. Hopefully with their continued success in boxing, young whites will believe they can and stop listening to the A.. holes who say they can't.
Our beloved Kelly Pavlik is doing alot to crack this nonsense. Thank God for him.
Our beloved Kelly Pavlik is doing alot to crack this nonsense. Thank God for him.
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Most US Olympic teams have no white fighters(if you don't count obviously Caucasian Latinos). Vanes M, was the last White American since about 88'.
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Great Britain are sending 8 boxers to Beijing and 6 are white. All are expected to get a medal especially Frankie Gavin a lightweight who is expected to win gold. Watch out for him!
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Kukulcan said:
There are going to be soo many white fighters in the future...boxing is going to be a white dominated sport in every div...wait and see.Edited by: BoxingTrainer
I like boxing and considered taking it up as a kid. My father was like many white parents. He told me it causes brain damage and there are better ways to make money. He boxed a little bit as an amature. He said that I was crazy and wouldn't quit if overmatched. He refused to sign the permission slip. We would probably have more white boxers in the U.S. but I think this is common.Edited by: KG2422
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Frankie Gavin didn't make his weight for some odd reason, so has been sent back home
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On the plus side for team GB, Bradley Saunders KO'd a Ghanian in the first round with a killer rib shot and Billy-Joe Saunders easily beat a good Turkish boxer.
On the plus side for team GB, Bradley Saunders KO'd a Ghanian in the first round with a killer rib shot and Billy-Joe Saunders easily beat a good Turkish boxer.
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Trying to sign up as an under ager in most middle class families is nearly the equivalent of running away and joing the circus. My father was the same way about football, I damn near had to forge his signature to play that sport....KG2422 said:
I had a father who had a distinguished amatuer and (somewhat distinguished) pro career in early 1960s. He didn't want me to box, but I did. Had nearly 100 amateur fights and 16 pro. Mom hated it, but Pop would occassionally help with a tip or two. My folks were fairly open-minded and let me find my way. I guess I was lucky.
devans
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Even if he didn't stand in your way, he didn't want you to box. It pretty much backs up what others have been saying.
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<H2 =ArticleTitle>Black U.S. boxer gets "confruzed" and loses. This is hilarious!
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<H2 =ArticleTitle>Warren stunned in opening bout </H2>
<DIV =Summary>Top American hope believed he'd won, stopped punching
<DIV =Date>Posted Monday, August 11, 2008 9:33 AM ET
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BEIJING (AP) -- While Lee Ok-sung got his glove fixed with 35 seconds left, Rau'Shee Warren turned in his neutral corner and searched for a clear voice in the cacophony of shouted advice.
Warren swore he heard somebody in the stands yelling "Move! Move!", meaning the world champion flyweight had the lead and should simply avoid getting punched to win. His coaches were screaming the opposite message from their ringside seats, because Warren actually trailed 9-8 and needed to attack.
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U.S. gold-medal favorite Rau'Shee Warren was eliminated by Lee Ok-sung, 9-8, in the flyweight (51kg/112 lbs) division.
In a painfully perfect illustration of what might be the U.S. boxing team's biggest problem, Warren listened to what he thought his friends, family or teammates were telling him. It cost him a chance at the medal he waited four years to hang around his mother's neck.
Warren spent the final moments of his second Olympics with his gloves at his waist Tuesday night, dancing in a pointless circle around the South Korean former world champion.
The stunning loss - and the head-scratching way it ended - crushed the first two-time American boxing Olympian in 30 years.
"It doesn't feel real," Warren said, pulling up his red tank top to dry his tears. "I didn't feel like I lost the fight, because I was fighting hard, doing everything the coaches were telling me. To get this far and then lose, I don't even know what happened."
After losing his first fight in Athens as a raw 17-year-old light flyweight, Warren declined pro boxing's riches and stuck around the amateur game solely for a trip to Beijing and his desire to present gold to his mother, Paulette. Instead, he got eight minutes of action capped by 35 seconds of awful confusion.
Warren didn't even know he had lost until he heard the news from U.S. coach Dan Campbell. He threw his headgear in disgust before the tears rolled, though he later apologized for being "unsportsmanlike."
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"There was so much going on in the crowd," Warren said. "When I just stood there at the end, I thought I was up. To wait this long, and then to lose after one fight ..."
Warren broke into sobs again.
"I was confused about why he stopped (punching)," Campbell said. "He said he heard somebody saying to him to move (and avoid Lee). He was looking up in the stands. I don't know what he thought they were saying."
Earlier at Workers' Gymnasium, Juan Carlos Payano of the Dominican Republic upset two-time Olympic medalist Jerome Thomas of France. A few hours later, China sent its fifth fighter through to the next round with bantamweight Gu Yu's win over Joe Murray of Britain, who angrily blamed it on a judging bias toward the hometown fighters.
Russian bantamweight Sergey Vodopyanov also advanced - but Warren, a fellow world champion, won't be joining him.
Warren was a medal favorite for the tumultuous American team, along with welterweight Demetrius Andrade, another world champion who barely won his debut fight Sunday in Beijing.
USA Boxing instituted a strict training program and revolutionary coaching methods in an attempt to return to prominence, but Campbell's staff has been battered by complaints from the fighters' parents and local coaches. Most of the boxers thought the residency program in Colorado Springs, Colo., was onerous, and some discounted Campbell's coaching abilities.
The results of all that dissension might be showing up in Beijing: Warren's loss follows bantamweight contender Gary Russell Jr.'s failure to make weight, along with early losses by Sadam Ali and Javier Molina. Just five U.S. boxers remain in the Olympic field, and Campbell described himself as "close to speechless."
"For him to lose could be disheartening for some of our other guys," Campbell said. "That's going to be our biggest fear. ... I think they're most definitely going to be psyched out. We have a psychologist around, and we're going to make sure that she talks to this team, because I'm sure all of them are going to be psyched out by this."
Warren, a Cincinnati native, was the youngest boxer at the Athens Games and the youngest male athlete on the entire U.S. Olympic contingent in Greece.
No American fighter had been on two straight Olympic teams since Davey Lee Armstrong in 1972 and 1976. Although Cuba, Russia and other nations send their best amateur fighters to multiple Olympics, most Americans don't wait.
"He did what we would like to hope that other young boxers do," Campbell said. "He stayed around for four more years, and ... he worked so hard in our program."
[url]http://www.nbcolympics.com/boxing/news/newsid=196625.html#ga mes+early+again+warren[/url]
<H2 =ArticleTitle>Warren stunned in opening bout </H2>
<DIV =Summary>Top American hope believed he'd won, stopped punching
<DIV =Date>Posted Monday, August 11, 2008 9:33 AM ET
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BEIJING (AP) -- While Lee Ok-sung got his glove fixed with 35 seconds left, Rau'Shee Warren turned in his neutral corner and searched for a clear voice in the cacophony of shouted advice.
Warren swore he heard somebody in the stands yelling "Move! Move!", meaning the world champion flyweight had the lead and should simply avoid getting punched to win. His coaches were screaming the opposite message from their ringside seats, because Warren actually trailed 9-8 and needed to attack.
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U.S. gold-medal favorite Rau'Shee Warren was eliminated by Lee Ok-sung, 9-8, in the flyweight (51kg/112 lbs) division.
In a painfully perfect illustration of what might be the U.S. boxing team's biggest problem, Warren listened to what he thought his friends, family or teammates were telling him. It cost him a chance at the medal he waited four years to hang around his mother's neck.
Warren spent the final moments of his second Olympics with his gloves at his waist Tuesday night, dancing in a pointless circle around the South Korean former world champion.
The stunning loss - and the head-scratching way it ended - crushed the first two-time American boxing Olympian in 30 years.
"It doesn't feel real," Warren said, pulling up his red tank top to dry his tears. "I didn't feel like I lost the fight, because I was fighting hard, doing everything the coaches were telling me. To get this far and then lose, I don't even know what happened."
After losing his first fight in Athens as a raw 17-year-old light flyweight, Warren declined pro boxing's riches and stuck around the amateur game solely for a trip to Beijing and his desire to present gold to his mother, Paulette. Instead, he got eight minutes of action capped by 35 seconds of awful confusion.
Warren didn't even know he had lost until he heard the news from U.S. coach Dan Campbell. He threw his headgear in disgust before the tears rolled, though he later apologized for being "unsportsmanlike."
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"There was so much going on in the crowd," Warren said. "When I just stood there at the end, I thought I was up. To wait this long, and then to lose after one fight ..."
Warren broke into sobs again.
"I was confused about why he stopped (punching)," Campbell said. "He said he heard somebody saying to him to move (and avoid Lee). He was looking up in the stands. I don't know what he thought they were saying."
Earlier at Workers' Gymnasium, Juan Carlos Payano of the Dominican Republic upset two-time Olympic medalist Jerome Thomas of France. A few hours later, China sent its fifth fighter through to the next round with bantamweight Gu Yu's win over Joe Murray of Britain, who angrily blamed it on a judging bias toward the hometown fighters.
Russian bantamweight Sergey Vodopyanov also advanced - but Warren, a fellow world champion, won't be joining him.
Warren was a medal favorite for the tumultuous American team, along with welterweight Demetrius Andrade, another world champion who barely won his debut fight Sunday in Beijing.
USA Boxing instituted a strict training program and revolutionary coaching methods in an attempt to return to prominence, but Campbell's staff has been battered by complaints from the fighters' parents and local coaches. Most of the boxers thought the residency program in Colorado Springs, Colo., was onerous, and some discounted Campbell's coaching abilities.
The results of all that dissension might be showing up in Beijing: Warren's loss follows bantamweight contender Gary Russell Jr.'s failure to make weight, along with early losses by Sadam Ali and Javier Molina. Just five U.S. boxers remain in the Olympic field, and Campbell described himself as "close to speechless."
"For him to lose could be disheartening for some of our other guys," Campbell said. "That's going to be our biggest fear. ... I think they're most definitely going to be psyched out. We have a psychologist around, and we're going to make sure that she talks to this team, because I'm sure all of them are going to be psyched out by this."
Warren, a Cincinnati native, was the youngest boxer at the Athens Games and the youngest male athlete on the entire U.S. Olympic contingent in Greece.
No American fighter had been on two straight Olympic teams since Davey Lee Armstrong in 1972 and 1976. Although Cuba, Russia and other nations send their best amateur fighters to multiple Olympics, most Americans don't wait.
"He did what we would like to hope that other young boxers do," Campbell said. "He stayed around for four more years, and ... he worked so hard in our program."
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That loss reminded me of the Family Feud loss on You tube where a Black family thought Europe was a country that people should vacation in. I suspect his cadre of friends can't add properly....
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WIR that was classic! Yeah just like most ignorant/dumb inner city negros think if you are from Mexico you speak Mexican!
This group of people for the most part are embarrassing themselves and rest of us. God, how their parents lack of parenting skills is cuasing most of them to pursue a career of pimping/drug dealing and then get advanced careers of being professional prisoners. Man will some black leader arise and point this out other than Bill Cosby!
1996 bronze medalist for the U.S. team, Rhoshii Wells, shot and killed yesterday in Vegas bya fellow black.
http://www.lvrj.com/news/26946679.html
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I think my father's concerns with not letting me box were more about the business end of it. It is (even on the amateur level) the sleaziest business out there. The great fighters mentioned on here do not have to deal with the level of sleaze and corruption found on the lower levels of the sport. It is a true gutter, run by the most unscrupulous people. It chewed Pop and his once promising career up.
The judging system in Olympic boxing has got to change. The darker-skinned figher seems to always be favored by the judges scoring. They also seem to always be the boxer that is constantly running away - boring.
A point is supposed to be scored when the white part of the glove cleanly connects with a scoring portion of the body or head. So, why not have judges actually count the score in slow-motion replay. The results would take 15-30 minutes after the bout and would be completely fair. This way of scoring would also elimate the running tactics of the boxer that happens to be ahead in the scoring. It's almost impossible to come-back from a deficit in the current scoring system.
To0 many competitions are decided by judges in the Olympics.
A point is supposed to be scored when the white part of the glove cleanly connects with a scoring portion of the body or head. So, why not have judges actually count the score in slow-motion replay. The results would take 15-30 minutes after the bout and would be completely fair. This way of scoring would also elimate the running tactics of the boxer that happens to be ahead in the scoring. It's almost impossible to come-back from a deficit in the current scoring system.
To0 many competitions are decided by judges in the Olympics.
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Team USA is now down to two fighters.
I see Ireland and Ukraine, both of which started with fewer fighters than the US, each have three of their white fighters left going into the quarter finals. Maybe the US should bring a few white boxers next time!
I see Ireland and Ukraine, both of which started with fewer fighters than the US, each have three of their white fighters left going into the quarter finals. Maybe the US should bring a few white boxers next time!
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Now the US team is down to one.
The overhyped Demetrius Andrade was defeated by Jungjoo Kim of Korea.
But the long-armed heavyweight Deontay Wilder was lucky...
Wilder didn't fight very well and was behind in the fourth round, but the referee deducted two points from his opponent and the fight ended as a draw. Then the judges decided to give it to Wilder.
The overhyped Demetrius Andrade was defeated by Jungjoo Kim of Korea.
But the long-armed heavyweight Deontay Wilder was lucky...
Wilder didn't fight very well and was behind in the fourth round, but the referee deducted two points from his opponent and the fight ended as a draw. Then the judges decided to give it to Wilder.
InfamousOne
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I thought our all black team should have won the gold by now? What, you mean said elite black men are losing to inferior asian athletes? And white men are dominating most divisions in the pros?
Why am i not hearing about this in the media?
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Why am i not hearing about this in the media?
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whiteathlete33
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There is a reason for all that though Infamousone. All the great black athletes are in going into football and basketball because their is more money in it for them. LOL. Thats why Europeans have been dominating boxing lately. At least that is what the media will brainwash you with.Edited by: whiteathlete33
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Jd who are the irish boxers still left? As well as the Ukranians?
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celticdb15 said:
Ireland has Paddy Barnes, Darren Sutherland, and my favorite Irish boxer, light heavyweight Kenny Egan.
Ireland's Olympic Athletes
Ukraine lost this morning, so now has two remaining: Lomachenko and the super-heavyweight Glazkov.
Russia has only three boxers left, but heavyweight Chakhkiev looked great today, and advanced to the semi-finals. The fight was close until the last round, when he "turned it up" and won by a wide margin 18-9.
Russian lightweight Tishchenko is one of the best p4p fighters in the world.
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By the way, you can watch all the boxing live on one of these three websites, depending on which country you are in:
US:MSNBC livestreams
Canada:CBC livestreams
Britain:BBC livestreams
There's probably Irish and Australian websites that are streaming the fights.
Here's the best, most comprehensive schedule for boxing:
Olympic boxing schedule
Edited by: JD1986
US:MSNBC livestreams
Canada:CBC livestreams
Britain:BBC livestreams
There's probably Irish and Australian websites that are streaming the fights.
Here's the best, most comprehensive schedule for boxing:
Olympic boxing schedule
Edited by: JD1986
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Thanks JD i saw Johnny Joyce(Ireland) win his light welterweight fight about a week ago. I have read that this may be irelands best boxing team ever and i hope they bring a medal back to the Emerald Isle. Jd any word On Roniel Iglesias form Cuba? When i was watching the announcers couldn't off this kid. They said he was next in line for the "Great Cubans"