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The blacks are already complaining about the T-Wolves.

There's A Conspiracy Theory That The Minnesota Timberwolves Are Hoarding White Players To Boost Ticket Sales

Tony Manfred | Oct. 30, 2012, 9:25 AM | 13,374 | 47



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The Minnesota Timberwolves go into the season with only five black players on their 15-man roster, and some people are calling it a conspiracy. From Jerry Zgoda and Dennis Brackin of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune:
"How did we get a roster that resembles the 1955 Lakers?" asked Tyrone Terrell, chairman of St. Paul's African American leadership council. "I think everything is a strategy. Nothing happens by happenstance."
That strategy, Terrell and others in the black community believe, is to sell tickets to the Wolves' fan base, which is overwhelmingly white.
Lou Amundson, JJ Barea, Chase Budinger, Andrei Kirilenko, Kevin Love, Nikola Pekovic, Luke Ridnour, Ricky Rubio, Alexey Shved, and Greg Stiemsma make up 2/3 of the T-Wolves roster, and they are all white.
Minnesota civil rights activist Ron Edwards thinks something is up too, and he told the paper, "It raises some real questions to me about what's really intended. I think, personally, that it was calculated. Is this an attempt to get fans back in the stands? Minnesota, after all, is a pretty white state.''
There are a few problems with this theory.
First of all, the T-Wolves sold 90.4% of their tickets last year, which ranked 14th in the league. Only two other non-playoff teams ranked in the top 15. And they did it with a majority black roster (8 out of 15 players). So they didn't have an attendance problem at all.
In addition, it's clear that the T-Wolves think there is a market inefficiency when it comes to international players. Five players on their roster are from other countries, which is double the league average (~2.5 in 2011-12). Since international players come from predominantly European countries, developing a team with an international focus is inherently going to shift the racial makeup of your roster.
It's not a race conspiracy, it's a calculated move to identify under-the-radar players that the rest of the league isn't looking at.
The theory that basketball fans are more likely to pay to watch white players than black players has been debunked by the last 30 years of NBA history. There's no chance the T-Wolves have a racist master plan in the works.





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There's A Conspiracy Theory That The Minnesota Timberwolves Are Hoarding White Players To Boost Ticket Sales

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What a joke - typical complaining of blacks and they get away with it. Reverse the situation and the accusers and this would be all over the news
 

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What a joke - typical complaining of blacks and they get away with it. Reverse the situation and the accusers and this would be all over the news

Yes, it's sickening. Blacks are so racist against whites it's shocking. You can't even have a 2/3 white NBA team without these babies playing the race card. I never thought people could be this racist.
 

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The blacks are already complaining about the T-Wolves.

There's A Conspiracy Theory That The Minnesota Timberwolves Are Hoarding White Players To Boost Ticket Sales




Sounds like a potentially good business strategy. It's the only team in the NBA that I follow .i.e. occasionally scan the box scores to see if they got a W and will watch if they start to make legitimate progress in the playoffs. Of course they have to start winning first.
 

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Bump for an update:

The Boston Celtics now join the Clippers as the only teams who have zero White men out of 15 roster spots. Milicic was cut. Yet the media can only cry racism against the Timberwolves. A 2/3 White team can't exist, yet every season there are teams with 0, 1 or 2 Whites and it's fine. The double standard could not be more obvious. :tape:

In another minor transaction, Matt Carroll was cut from the Hornets but Ryan Anderson is starting finally so their "White score" stays the same.
 

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Excellent point FreeThinker. We all no what the nba really stands for. If the Twolves are disbanded because they have a few more whites than average, I think that alot of the white fans of the game should stop supporting this league. As you said there are two 100% black teams and many others that are just about on that same level. It's all about phasing out whitey and it needs to stop. We need to really get behind the TWolves. At the same time, we should be emailing David Stern and others about the blatant racism against whites in the nba. I don't call it reverse racism like some people do. Racism is racism regardless of which way it goes. Whites need to be treated fairly and it's just not happening!
 

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Bump for an update:

The Boston Celtics now join the Clippers as the only teams who have zero White men out of 15 roster spots. Milicic was cut. Yet the media can only cry racism against the Timberwolves. A 2/3 White team can't exist, yet every season there are teams with 0, 1 or 2 Whites and it's fine. The double standard could not be more obvious. :tape:
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Anecdotally I can report that the Celtics have many fewer fans here in MA than they did in their heyday (Bird, Mchale, etc.) And this was true during their championship run a few years back. Not so of the Bruins Stanley Cup run. The city became once again a hockey town.

The Celtics games are impressive only to jackasses that want to show off their money by buying court side seats so as to bed some local slut (as if money is required). They are utterly classless events.


The English New England Brahmins had one good thing to say about the Irish: "They kept the city white" (i.e. kept out the blacks). Some of that Irish clannishness remains and is expressed implicitly in the Bostonian fondness of white athletes (i.e. the Patriots). Still, and this goes with out saying, the sentiment is much, much weaker than in former times.
 

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Looking at last night's box scores, there was some pretty bad attendance figures. Washington drew 14,114, more than 6,000 under capacity; Atlanta drew 10,162 despite the Hawks being 9-4; Detroit drew 10,517; New Orleans drew 10,693; and Milwaukee drew 11,439.

The actual figures might have been lower than that as the NBA seems to have a policy of teams never announcing a crowd of less than five figures, though I see plenty in the 10,000 to 11,000 range. Then figure that a lot of the purchased tickets were by corporations that may or may not have been used for a given game, plus freebies given away or sold at reduced prices.
 

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Looking at last night's box scores, there was some pretty bad attendance figures. Washington drew 14,114, more than 6,000 under capacity; Atlanta drew 10,162 despite the Hawks being 9-4; Detroit drew 10,517; New Orleans drew 10,693; and Milwaukee drew 11,439.

The actual figures might have been lower than that as the NBA seems to have a policy of teams never announcing a crowd of less than five figures, though I see plenty in the 10,000 to 11,000 range. Then figure that a lot of the purchased tickets were by corporations that may or may not have been used for a given game, plus freebies given away or sold at reduced prices.
Not sure if this was posted already but NBA tickets sold for 10 cents in Philly recently.

Want to catch the Atlanta Hawks? You can get in the door for $1 on Monday to see them take on the Orlando Magic. You can see the Sacramento Kings for $2; Charlotte Bobcats for $1; Memphis Grizzlies for $0.95; New Orleans Hornets for $0.94.

It's no coincidence that these teams struggling to sell tickets are amongst some of the blackest squads.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-b...e-0-10-seriously-10-cents-234007316--nba.html
 

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Not sure if this was posted already but NBA tickets sold for 10 cents in Philly recently.

Want to catch the Atlanta Hawks? You can get in the door for $1 on Monday to see them take on the Orlando Magic. You can see the Sacramento Kings for $2; Charlotte Bobcats for $1; Memphis Grizzlies for $0.95; New Orleans Hornets for $0.94.

It's no coincidence that these teams struggling to sell tickets are amongst some of the blackest squads.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-b...e-0-10-seriously-10-cents-234007316--nba.html


What that article details is amazing. Without the endless hype and free publicity given the league by ESPN and corporate sports outlets and corporate giveaways, it would be about as popular as the XFL.

Yet little if any handwringing in the media about the poor product that is professional basketball. Anything black or mostly black is beyond genuine objective analysis. Much better to whine every year about "poor quarterback play" in the NFL when the reality is that the NFL is experiencing a golden era of great (White) QB play, or to trash the NHL as a "niche" sport when hockey is much more of a true international sport than basketball and produces great players from many different (White) countries.

But like the WNBA (and big banks), the NBA is "too important to fail." So is MLB with its agenda of being dominated by hispanics from Central and South America.
 

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What that article details is amazing. Without the endless hype and free publicity given the league by ESPN and corporate sports outlets and corporate giveaways, it would be about as popular as the XFL....But like the WNBA (and big banks), the NBA is "too important to fail." So is MLB with its agenda of being dominated by hispanics from Central and South America.

Don, we've discussed this many times over the last few years at CF, but we can't remind people (newbies, lurkers) of this obvious charade enough. The last few posts between you, Free Thinker and Gibbon have been impressive and excellent reading. Can't say much more, but I would love to bring up something I've noticed in NBA arenas the last few years:

Check out all the empty seats (New Jersey) in this Fleer NBA card from the early 1990's:

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I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but outside of the court-side seats, many NBA venues are pretty much totally in the dark -- almost like a movie theater? In places like Philly and Brooklyn it's seems the entire upper bowl and part of the lower bowl are in the dark. Is this done to hide all empty seats on Television? Afterall, the American sheeple simply can't know NBA attendance is still at 1980's levels in so many cities. Freethinker's been to the Barclay Center, he must know what I'm driving at, in regards to the "black-out" (wattage wise) in the new Arena.


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Caption: Recent game at the brand new, dimly lit Barclay Center.
 

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The T-Wolves beat the Bucks last night and are now 7-8. Hopefully the chemistry improves over the course of the season and they make the playoffs. Love had a bad game though shooting 5-19.
 

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I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but outside of the court-side seats, many NBA venues are pretty much totally in the dark -- almost like a movie theater? In places like Philly and Brooklyn it's seems the entire upper bowl and part of the lower bowl are in the dark. Is this done to hide all empty seats on Television? Afterall, the American sheeple simply can't know NBA attendance is still at 1980's levels in so many cities. Freethinker's been to the Barclay Center, he must know what I'm driving at, in regards to the "black-out" (wattage wise) in the new Arena.


Toronto+Raptors+v+Brooklyn+Nets+in8Ky8oaWWXl.jpg

Caption: Recent game at the brand new, dimly lit Barclay Center.
Truthteller, good work as usual. You're really a good investigative journalist when it comes to the NBA/WNBA and their "business models".

I went to 2 games there but I'll disregard the college tournament because things operated very differently. The arena is very dimly lit, even in the concourses where the food venders are. I believe you are correct about the seating areas mostly being dark. I sat in the upper bowl and the court "pops" due to darkness in the sitting area. I think that could be duel purpose. The reason you stated, even though the game I went to was 90% plus capacity and to give the "movie theatre" effect.

Another thing to ponder is that building departments now regulate how much wattage architects are allowed to use. In the last few years, NYC has adopted these guidelines set forth by the US Department of Energy. It's all the push to make everything "green" and "energy efficient". Most of it is bullsh*t, bureaucratic hurdles to jump over and more loss of freedom to make your own choices with your money. For example, a sports arena is allowed 1.1 watts per square foot versus an office which only gets 1.0 or a retail space which gets 1.5. Anyway without getting too technical, many people will feel spaces are less luminous than what they have been used to. Architects are either stuck using less light fixtures or LED ones (very low wattage) but the cost usually prevents that.

Another side note. The people that I went with commented on how cold the building was. Is this new ownership already cutting corners on heating and lighting their billion dollar arena?
 

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The Raptors' Aaron Gray and (injured) Linas Kleiza should see a bit more of the rotation off the bench this week, as Amir Johnson appears headed for a league-sanctioned vacation.

PORTLAND, Ore. -- Toronto's Amir Johnson threw his mouthguard at an official and had to be restrained by teammates after he was ejected from the Raptors' 92-74 loss Monday night to the Trail Blazers.
Johnson and referee David Jones both tugged at the ball following a Portland free throw with 5:05 left in the third quarter. After Jones ejected him and started to walk away, Johnson threw his mouthguard in Jones' direction.
Fellow players had to restrain Johnson before he was escorted from the floor.
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I guess the ref didn't let me have the ball so we kind of got into a tug of war. No words were really said and he rejected me out of the game and I kind of lost my cool from there.
â€￾ -- Amir Johnson
Johnson said he has a habit of rubbing the ball before handing it to the ref during free throws. Although it appeared that the two had words, Johnson claimed nothing much was said.

I assume that by rubbing the ball ritualistically, Johnson is summoning the spirits of the great tribesman of the Saharan plains, who could fire a spear through a gazelle flank from a hundred meters away. Look at the force of his windup as he hurls his mouthguard at his prey (the referee).

[video=youtube;6uqfaEnLlgM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uqfaEnLlgM[/video]

Raptors coach Dwane Casey said the reaction was uncharacteristic for Johnson.

"I don't know what happened with Amir. He kind of lost his mind there for a little bit," Casey said. "I told him we can't have that on a night where we're short-handed and we're in a situation where we're scrambling. We just gotta have more discipline than that."

Johnson agreed that it was unusual for him to act out.

"My teammates know me, my parents know me ... I never lose my cool. I never said anything to a ref or got mad," he said. "The only techs I've gotten were for hanging on the rim or slapping the backboard."

And there you have it. He was a good boy, he was going to church, he was just turning his life around. If you don't believe him, just ask his parents!
 

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This made me smile. Ben Hansbrough received an elbow to the back of the head from an opposing player (I'm sure you can guess this gentleman's hue) but big bro Tyler jumps in to defend him. The solidarity is good to see. There's a video in the link:

http://www.slamonline.com/online/nb...little-brother-ben-after-he-is-elbowed-video/

In related news, Ben has taken over the backup point guard duties from former first round flop DJ Augustin. Let's hope he flourishes.
 

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I cant stand how the NBA constantly insinuates that its christmas day games are one of the premier sporting events of the year
 

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This made me smile. Ben Hansbrough received an elbow to the back of the head from an opposing player (I'm sure you can guess this gentleman's hue) but big bro Tyler jumps in to defend him. The solidarity is good to see. There's a video in the link:

http://www.slamonline.com/online/nb...little-brother-ben-after-he-is-elbowed-video/

In related news, Ben has taken over the backup point guard duties from former first round flop DJ Augustin. Let's hope he flourishes.

He should have done more to the guy. In my neighborhood when you took a cheap shot at a guy his brother would be on you right away. So generally you didn't take the cheap shot. Of course my neighborhood is long gone and so are those days.

I will take this opportunity to add that I bet there is not a single White player in the NBA/NFL/MLB that does not have a brother of a close age. In this era of no sandlot ball the only way a kid can get enough reps at a sport to be pro-level is to have a constant companion in the house to do it with. The father can't do it (I tried) and there will never be enough near by White kids who are allowed to come over and play a sufficient amount of the time to create the learned reflexes that an elite athlete needs.

Small White families have done more to reduce White participation in sports in amerika then any other factor. Black kids it seems are still grouping together outside of the home in groups. Sometimes it's a gang, sometimes it's at the public housing built b-ball court, but without the presence of helicopter parents, black kids get the unmoderated play time to develop pro level skills.
 

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Getting back on topic. The Houston Rockets continue to improve. They have an asian(J. Linn) and two whites in the starting linuep. Last night in another blow out win, Asik had 20 points and 18 rebounds while Chandler Parsons scored 23 points. O.Asik also had a poster type dunk over J. Noah of the Chicago Bulls. It was a sight to see as the Bulls let this kid go. Maybe they regret if after last nights whooping. Keep an eye on the Rockets. They are not a bad team to watch!
 

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Here's a name that I don't think we've mentioned before... Greivis Vasquez from Venezuela via Maryland.
He's a point guard for the New Orleans Hornets, and scored 27 pts tonight vs Orlando, plus 8 assists.
Over the past 5 games he is averaging 16 pts and 8.2 assists.
Definitely on the rise and one to keep an eye on.....
 

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AA coach avery johnson got fired from the nets today.

And in typical BSPN fashion, they are making a big deal out of it asking if he should have gotten fired and such
 

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AA coach avery johnson got fired from the nets today.

And in typical BSPN fashion, they are making a big deal out of it asking if he should have gotten fired and such

BSPN is just a sensationalist mouthpiece for the Caste media. No other network is going to rival or overpower this mouthpiece that feeds the DWF sheeple nation in this country.

I don't watch ESPN except for sporting events and baseball highlights/programs due to the white resurgence in the sport.
 
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the DWF are saying Avery Johnson would not have gotten fired if he were White. And I actually agree with them for once. If Avery were White he would not have gotten the job in the first place, and thus he would never have gotten fired.
 
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I cant stand how the NBA constantly insinuates that its christmas day games are one of the premier sporting events of the year

true that.. I've noticed over the years, co-workers of all different backgrounds, ages, etc.. seem to have Thanksgiving day Lions football as a part of their tradition.
& conversely, outside of some young brotha's, I never hear anyone talking about Xmas NBA.
I've never looked @ the ratings, but my guess is, few American families care about an all-day NBA lineup..(who knows)

I watched the Clips-Nuggets, and was reminded how dumb NBA pre-games are. They had this dope Jalen Rose dressed up like Clark Griswald, & teamed with a barely intelligible Magic & lifeless/maybe sedated Michael Wilbon..:hat: (hard to watch)
 

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There was an AP article that the daily rag picked up yesterday advocating that the NBA not open its season until Christmas Day. Everyone quoted in it admitted that there's no interest in the league before Christmas and that the league should play a Christmas until July schedule regular season schedule, as the possibility of cutting back the number of games was dismissed. No sports league is going to cut back the number of games it plays, but I found the article interesting given that the media never admits to a problem with the NBA or NFL when it comes to interest or quality of play (other than the oft-repeated lie that the NFL is lacking in quality quarterbacks).
 
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