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There is a double standard..

--Newton can throw picks and get away with it. Tim Tebow, essentially still a rookie, won't "get away" with throwing picks. He will be called a bust.

--Cam Newton is 1-3 thus far. Members of the MSM say that Tebow was 1-2 last year and that he's a bust for that... what kind of ridiculousness is that? It would also be difficult for any QB to overcome Denver's HORRIBLE All-Africant "D." However, Tebow is their best hope.

Tebow threw 5 TD's with only 3 Int's and had 6 rushing TD's as well as a solid 82.1 QB rating. Newton has 5 TD's and 5 Int's with a 84.5 QB rating and both have averaged a nearly identical 8 yards per completion, yet he's seen as a great NFL QB already while the MSM keeps insisting that Tebow isn't ready. At this rate the MSM and caste system won't let Tebow be ready until he's 40 like Doug Flutie. Tebow also happens to have better rushing stats despite him being "slower" and "less athletic" than Newton...
 

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This from Weenieworld! When exactly is he going to be ready?

Broncos beat writer Lee Rasizer advises not to look for Tim Tebow to replace Kyle Orton "any time soon."



Broncos fans are already clamoring for Tebow, but coach John Fox is sticking to his belief that Tebow isn't ready and the offense would have to be scrapped to make the change. ESPN's Chris Mortensen suggested Thursday that the Broncos won't consider a QB switch because they're not ready to go to Brady Quinn yet. While we still believe Tebow will make starts this season, it's not on the immediate horizon.
This is one of the big reasons that Fox does not like Tebow. He is an "established" coach, set in his ways and the Fox offense. Put Tebow in an offense similar to what Elway operated and it would be spectacular. But to get a coach to adopt a completely different offensive approach?? Nah, they would rather lose.
 

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This is one of the big reasons that Fox does not like Tebow. He is an "established" coach, set in his ways and the Fox offense. Put Tebow in an offense similar to what Elway operated and it would be spectacular. But to get a coach to adopt a completely different offensive approach?? Nah, they would rather lose.
And I hope to see a half-empty stadium, soon. The arrogant Bronco's organization doesn't deserve the great fans they have. They are taking them granted and I hope there is a growing backlash. They brought in Fox because he is (supposedly) a defensive-minded coach. Elway is hoping that they can have a great defense so they can get away with having an average QB so his exalted status in Denver cannot be eclipsed by someone else.
 

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Tebow flashed his potential today and nearly lead Denver back from a large 2nd half deficit when Orton got pulled. Tebow rushed and passed for 1 TD each and nearly completed a long TD pass to win the game as time expired.

Hopefully Fox will start Tebow against the Fins after their bye week. GO TEBOW! :smiley:
 

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Obviously there's going to be lots of debate in the coming days about what to do about Tim Tebow. Why not use Orton/Tebow as a dual threat. Have Orton come in and do what he does best, the drop back passer and then bring in Tebow and let him do all the things he does such as use his mobility along with his uncanny playmaking ability. This could throw opponents off guard. At this point what do the Broncos have to lose?

Many will disagree with me to be sure and I don't think this should be a long term answer, but this will give Tebow time to get acclimated to being the full-time QB he will become eventually!
 

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Have Orton come in and do what he does best, the drop back passer
Considering the way the Donks offensive line has played, this is a tough proposition, and one of the reasons for Orton's dismal failure. A playmaker like Tebow, with his ability to escape pressure, is the only way the Broncos can win. Not only that, but did you see how hard the team started playing with Tebow behind center? That sort of upgrade in play is normally only reserved for fellow bruvas. I can see the Donkeys winning at least half of their remaining games with Tim, and I'll become one of their biggest fans.
 

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Considering the way the Donks offensive line has played, this is a tough proposition, and one of the reasons for Orton's dismal failure. A playmaker like Tebow, with his ability to escape pressure, is the only way the Broncos can win. Not only that, but did you see how hard the team started playing with Tebow behind center? That sort of upgrade in play is normally only reserved for fellow bruvas. I can see the Donkeys winning at least half of their remaining games with Tim, and I'll become one of their biggest fans.


Yes, it's amazing how the media was saying the Denver players wanted Orton as the starter, but suddenly there was life when Tebow entered.

I just thought it would be tougher for teams defenses to have to prepare for both types of QB's as opposed to having to adjust to just Tebow's style, thus giving Tebow more time to get his timing down. Again, not for the long term, just to give Tebow time to acclimate, because I can see it, if he throws one interception, he will be perceived as failing.

Tebow hasn't been given the benefit of not having any veterans around him, as is with the case of C. Newton. There's no one behind to pressure and once he had that decent first game, barring an injury, he will be the Panthers QB for a while.

The I told-u-so attitude will persist around Tebow until he's given enough freedom to perform!
 

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The MNF pregame had the Tebow discussion, and for the most part it was very positive. Especially from a QB that would know, Steve Young. Trent Dilfer sounded like Merrill Hoge Jr. in his analysis. I'm not sure what Dilfer's beef is, but having observed him play, he couldn't hold Tim Tebows jock strap.
 

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Tebow's been named the starter for the Broncos. Hoge, Esiason & Friends are in mourning.

Here's a link to an ESPN story on it. Check out affirmative action hire Antonio Pierce attempting to speak English: "It don't matter who the quarterback is." Maybe in a few more years everyone at ESPN, including the Jews and the few non-Jewish Whites who work there, will be speaking ebonics.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7...yle-orton-denver-broncos-starting-quarterback
 

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The MNF pregame had the Tebow discussion, and for the most part it was very positive. Especially from a QB that would know, Steve Young. Trent Dilfer sounded like Merrill Hoge Jr. in his analysis. I'm not sure what Dilfer's beef is, but having observed him play, he couldn't hold Tim Tebows jock strap.

FootballDad, what did Steve Young say in regards to Tebow? I consider his insight valuable as in my eyes he's the best quarterback to play the game. It's sad how sites like Weenieworld don't consider Tebow a legit quarterback and only see him as someone who can score points in fantasy because of his running ability.
 

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Possibly the only thing Josh McDaniels did right was draft Tebow. If Denver hadn't drafted him he might have dropped to the third round or later. As a first round draft choice it's difficult to throw the greatest college football player of all time under the bus, as much as most of the corporate media would like to.
 

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Possibly the only thing Josh McDaniels did right was draft Tebow. If Denver hadn't drafted him he might have dropped to the third round or later. As a first round draft choice it's difficult to throw the greatest college football player of all time under the bus, as much as most of the corporate media would like to.
Or maybe the only thing he did wrong (a big one that it was, however) was screw over Hillis. He did have a White-friendly draft in 2010 with Tebow, Decker, and a couple of others and signed S Kyle McCarthy as a FA. At this point, I think he'd be better than Fox. It's just hard to forgive him for what he did to Hillis.
 

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Yeah, maybe McDaniels wasn't all that bad in retrospect compared to what came after. Elway has been a huge disappointment, and Fox regressed his last years in Carolina.

Perpetually injured china doll Demaryius Thomas may be back soon. He's of course blessed with wondrous athleticism and upside. I wonder if he'll instantly surpass Decker on the depth chart.
 

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Yeah, maybe McDaniels wasn't all that bad in retrospect compared to what came after. Elway has been a huge disappointment, and Fox regressed his last years in Carolina.

Perpetually injured china doll Demaryius Thomas may be back soon. He's of course blessed with wondrous athleticism and upside. I wonder if he'll instantly surpass Decker on the depth chart.

rotoworld seems to agree with us on it:

The Broncos are optimistic that Demaryius Thomas (finger), Eddie Royal (groin), and TE Julius Thomas (ankle) will return to practice in Week 7.

All three have been out since late September. The Broncos will sit them out during bye-week practices, hoping they can finally clear the hurdle next week. Eric Decker has solidified the No. 2 job, leaving Thomas and Royal to battle it out for third receiver.
 

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FootballDad, what did Steve Young say in regards to Tebow? I consider his insight valuable as in my eyes he's the best quarterback to play the game. It's sad how sites like Weenieworld don't consider Tebow a legit quarterback and only see him as someone who can score points in fantasy because of his running ability.
Young didn't offer any great insights, his brief commentary was mostly in response to Trent Dilfer's rant about how "Denver's next starting QB is not on the roster yet", and that Tebow is "underdeveloped" and will "stunt the growth of everyone else on the team because the playbook will have to be reduced" etc. etc. Young simply said to "play him". "He's the first round draft pick, he energized the team, his time is now, play him".
 

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I know some here don't like Dilfer, but he's seemed pretty good in my limited exposure to him. After ESPN's Caste Gang of Five -- Berman, Jackson, Carter, Ditka and Johnson -- all strongly supported Vick and his silly claims of being targeted by the officials, Dilfer very strongly disagreed, which was refreshing. I've also enjoyed his analysis of various players, teams and games, but he must have a pro-Caste side that I fortunately haven't heard yet.
 

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ESPN's Skip Bayless, I used to call him spineless, has been Tebow's biggest supporter. Sometimes he makes comments where you think he's going to get the caste system, but then he loses his mind and gives his full support to the "CS", except where Tebow is concerned. Amazing!
 

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I know some here don't like Dilfer, but he's seemed pretty good in my limited exposure to him. After ESPN's Caste Gang of Five -- Berman, Jackson, Carter, Ditka and Johnson -- all strongly supported Vick and his silly claims of being targeted by the officials, Dilfer very strongly disagreed, which was refreshing. I've also enjoyed his analysis of various players, teams and games, but he must have a pro-Caste side that I fortunately haven't heard yet.
So, Dilfer is an equal-opportunity hater? Works for me!
 

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Here is an interesting story in regards to Tebow's surging jersey sales and the demographic doing a substantial percentage of the purchasing. Perhaps this is another threat to the CultMarx establishment in that Tebow appeals strongly to female fans. Can't have a strong white man becoming a hero to women! Only the supa negro "Old Spice"-type guys are to be worshipped by white women!
 

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I know some here don't like Dilfer, but he's seemed pretty good in my limited exposure to him. After ESPN's Caste Gang of Five -- Berman, Jackson, Carter, Ditka and Johnson -- all strongly supported Vick and his silly claims of being targeted by the officials, Dilfer very strongly disagreed, which was refreshing. I've also enjoyed his analysis of various players, teams and games, but he must have a pro-Caste side that I fortunately haven't heard yet.

Not only did Dilfer not back Vick's senseless claim, he came out looking like a genius when ESPN dug up the stats and found Vick had received more "roughing the passer" calls than any other QB in the NFC East since he returned. Vick has received 4 times as many calls as Eli Manning and, don't forget, Eli has probably taken almost every snap since they began tracking his specific statistical sample (2009 or 2010?), while Vick was splitting time with Kolb for a good chunk of 2009.

Ditka is the most disappointing. He used to be a fairly white friendly coach, even during his brief stay in New Orleans....but he's become a embarrasment all around -- Caste clown deluxe, promotes the Lingerie Football (which is a joke) and I even saw on him on some silly Kosher (MTV type) show one late night, were he played the 'old fool' hanging out with 20-something nerds that mocked him....The old 'Iorn Mike' would never stoop so low.
 

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Young didn't offer any great insights, his brief commentary was mostly in response to Trent Dilfer's rant about how "Denver's next starting QB is not on the roster yet", and that Tebow is "underdeveloped" and will "stunt the growth of everyone else on the team because the playbook will have to be reduced" etc. etc. Young simply said to "play him". "He's the first round draft pick, he energized the team, his time is now, play him".

I've never heard that excuse "stunt the growth" used before with any of the black running QB's. Decker should do great with Tebow throwing to him just as Riley Cooper did with Tim in college. Plus what rookie or QB starting for the 1st time isn't "underdeveloped" that's why they need to play to get the experience to be an NFL QB. You cant learn that on the bench...
 

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Not only did Dilfer not back Vick's senseless claim, he came out looking like a genius when ESPN dug up the stats and found Vick had received more "roughing the passer" calls than any other QB in the NFC East since he returned. Vick has received 4 times as many calls as Eli Manning and, don't forget, Eli has probably taken almost every snap since they began tracking his specific statistical sample (2009 or 2010?), while Vick was splitting time with Kolb for a good chunk of 2009.

Ditka is the most disappointing. He used to be a fairly white friendly coach, even during his brief stay in New Orleans....but he's become a embarrasment all around -- Caste clown deluxe, promotes the Lingerie Football (which is a joke) and I even saw on him on some silly Kosher (MTV type) show one late night, were he played the 'old fool' hanging out with 20-something nerds that mocked him....The old 'Iorn Mike' would never stoop so low.

Right on about Ditka. He's a total embarrassment in his older years. He also was pitching boner pills a few years back. The younger Ditka would have kicked this old Caste tool's ass without a second thought or any remorse.
 

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One last hijacking of the Tebow thread to mention something about Ditka. The NFL Network is currently pushing a one-hour show about Walter Payton on its series "A Football Life" with commercials stating how "hurt" Payton was when he didn't score in the Ditka-coached Bears' blowout Super Bowl win over New England.

First of all, it's unimaginable that any "documentary" on a White athlete in any sport would center on how "hurt" he was by a sub-par performance in an important contest. It's another example of one of the ways blacks are constantly pandered to, by finding "injustices" and "hurts" where none exist. And many blacks of course feed into this and are filled with dubious grievances that then dominate their existence. In the case of Payton, maybe we will next be informed that his "hurt" at not scoring in the Super Bowl contributed to the severe drug problems he had after retiring from the NFL, and then to his early death.

During this commercial Ditka calls Payton's failure to score "his biggest regret." Really??? The biggest regret of his life is that instead of calling the plays he thought were appropriate at the time to win the Super Bowl, he should have instead changed some of them just so that Walter Payton could score a touchdown? Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic.
 
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