why I think Blacks are seen as strong

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  1. waterbed

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    Blacks are maybe seen as strong because when they did win boxing for example it always get very hyped, fro example if you ask people the mention a boxer except Mohammmed Ali , nearly all will say MIKE TYSON!.

    But I mostly think that blacks are often seen as strong and mentioned as Athletic because a black looks when he is in shape on average more lean then a white who is in shape, you see the muscles more.When I played soccer like 1-2 out of 10 whites have a sixpack( that you see the aps very good), but blacks 8-9 out of 10.Also arms and back look more lean.I was stupid too, I saw blacks that where like 40 lbs lighter then me as much stronger just because they were a little bit more lean looking, I have always like 8 to 9% fat.Also in Europe when a black soccer takes his short of the commentator says, impressive Torso(body) even when he's skinny ,just because he is lean looking.

    Do you guys that we whites at the men atletics have every world record of the non-running events so the technical-strength events but Blacks are seen as athletic and strong because they look more lean and people think that when you're lean you have lot of muscles, but in realy someone can have a lot more muscle but has just 8-9% bodyfat( like most white athletes) and the black maybe 6% so the black is strong looking in peoples eyes. Or have blacks athletes most of the time around 8-9% too.

    I dont know maybe you guys know it :Do black athletes have most of the times less bodyfat or is it only the darker skin the causes the more lean look+ that their fat is just in diffeent places.( between the muscles what i read somewhere here)
     
  2. Solomon Kane

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    that's a good point. dark colors recede, so they look slimmer. lighter colors do not recede, so they look a little fatter.



    In any event, whites are on averagebigger and strongerthan blacks. their strength is especially seen in wrestling--a sport which whites dominate.
     
  3. whiteathlete33

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    Black athletes tend to be a bit leaner than white ones. Whites tend to store a bit more body fat so they don't look as cut. In the NBA for example there are some blacks who are at like 4 or 5 percent body fat. It's impossible for me to stay that low and my body fat is always at like 8 or 9 percent. No matter how good my diet is I can't get lower than that. Being cut has nothing to do with strength and most blacks I know are weak.
     
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    This is a valid topic in regards to caste mentality. In many sports, and especially in the NFL and NBA, scouts look for "body type" and "look" as a primary attribute when rating players. It doesn't matter if a white player is quicker, stronger, and faster, to these narrow-minded folks, it's the look that counts. As ToughJ has pointed out many times before, whites are generally quicker,have better change-of-direction, and are superior in short burst sprints, while blacks generally have better top-end speed. In basketball and American football, the white attributes are generally more important, but it's the all-important "bubble" and "lean black look" that wins out, actual performance be damned!
    Of course, even big, fat blacks are somehow more athletic than their white counterparts, an extension of the previous myth.
     
  5. Latspread

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    This line of reasoning doesn't account for all of the freakishly muscled (both in terms of functional strength and looks) white athletes who have been snubbed or for the fact that the majority of black athletes have average (at best) builds.

    Obviously pale skin doesn't show muscles very well but bronze skin (which many whites have)isperfect in this regard. I guarantee you whites have more muscle mass, broader shoulders and backs, more prominent chests, and, as we all know, greater strength.

    The fact is that most whites have been so brainwashed with white inferiority that their minds will refuse to accept anything thatisn't copaceticwith their preconceived notions and have an unfailing ability to see in their superheroes just what they expect/want to see.
     
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    It isn't so much a question of muscle mass or even chiseled looks. It's the black look. It's the bubble butt, the long-appearing arms, even the skull shape, in addition to the necessary black skin tone. You could have a chiseled, muscular, fast white guy, who has stats to back up his performance, and a run-of-the-mill black guy who has underperformed his entire existence, and 9 times out of 10, the scouts will pick the black guy. Why? See above.
     
  7. Fightingtowin

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    I look MUCH more cut when I'm tan. I've always attributed blacks looking strong to having darker skin.
     
  8. Deadlift

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    I look at tons of linemen (black, mestizo, Poly & White) on Rivals and Scout, and I can confidently say that blacks DON'T have superior builds. There are the skinny one's that have trouble bulking-up, and, mostly, there are the morbidly obese blobs that possess ZERO endurance.

    Sure, a few black linemen may be legit players, but most suck and get exposed. I also look at linebackers, and many White one's have long arms and are tackling machines. We also tend to have longer necks, which is a sign of dominance - and females are very attracted to that.

    Thank goodness that we aren't a tiny (or non-muscular) race, or we would be losing our women at the rate that the Asians are.
     
  9. Latspread

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    Haha Seriously? I totally disagree. Tan skin definately looks bigger and harder than pale skin but black isn't any better than tan skin for showing muscularity so black skin is not "necessary". As for the "bubble butt"; the biggest, most muscular asses I'veseen belong to white men. I've never seen (I'm including Olympic sprinters andNFL players)a bigger butt on a man than my own when I do heavy squats regularly. I've seen several other white men with comparable builds and most of the blacks I've known (a siginificant number) had flat asses. I don't think there's one player in the NBA who has impressively developed glutes and I can only think of a couple of NFL players that stand out. Do blacks tend to carry more weight in the glutes? Maybe, maybe not. Regardless, I'd hardly say that bubble-butts are typical of black guysand know that white menwith muscular butts will be as big or bigger than anything you'll find. Race issue aside, truly great glute development israre on men. Women tend to carry a disproportionate amount of fat and muscle in their ass compared to men which is why big butts are alot more common amongstfemales.

    And the "long-appearing arms"; I suppose skinnier arms may appear longer so there may be something to this but I don't know why that would be desireable. Refer to the last paragraph of my first post for an explanation of this.

    There are pretty big variations in skull shape amongst a given race (perhaps especially the white race) so I'd be cautious of speaking about a"typical" white facial or skull structure. Edited by: Latspread
     
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    I'm not arguing that the black look is better, I'm just pointing out why DWF's and even worse, coaches and scouts prefer the black look. You can argue all day that whites are superior in most instances and I'll agree wholeheartedly, but it won't help when it's time for the athletic scholarship to be awarded.
     
  11. Tired old White

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    There is another reason blacks look leaner than white. They store their fat differently. Due to Europe being a cold climate whites have a tendency to store fat just below the skin to serve as an insulator. Much like and overcoat. Blacks evolved in a hot climate . They store their fat intertwined with the muscle tissue which allows better body heat dispersal. So a black guy who is 6 feet tall weighing 170 lbs with 10% body fat will appear to have more muscle and less fat than a white guy who is 6 feet tall weighing 170 lbs with 10% body fat.
     
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    interesting points guys, i have sometimes the feeling that a guy that is 160 lbs and looks lean is seen as stronger as someone who is 190 lbs and looks a bit less lean, it's like they forget that you have muscle too when you don't loook very cutt.
     
  13. Tom Iron

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    Let me say this about looks vs actual strength. When I started Ironworking, there were contractors around that did work we called "lump jobs". The thing was that the rig/crane would unload steel up on a fl. of a building and then we'd come down off the building and break the rig down and send it away (it usually had another job to go to that day). Then we'd go back up and start fishing through the pieces of steel and wheel them around the fl. and put them in place where they were to be set/placed on top of the walls (wall baring). Then, with the aid of a hand powered winch (dutchman, roust-a-bout), we'd start setting the pieces (it wasn't pleasant to be turning that winch with the handle lifting the pieces into place. But we only used the winch sparingly. Only on the biggest pieces. Whatever the foreman thought we could lift into place by hand, we did, and many of those pieces we should have used the winch. Anyway, in my more or less two yrs. of doing such work ( they "liked" me and kept calling me for new jobs), only one black guy came out to the job and he didn't make it through the morning. We stopped for coffee in the morning and then he disapeared. We ended up having to work shorthanded the rest of the day.
    I never met such strong men in my life. They were really something.

    Blacks for some reason aren't well endowed for the most part physically. A determined White man will 90% of the time put them to shame. That's my assessment of them over many yrs. of observing them in a very physical environment. Not to mention their overwhelming fear which more or less paralizes them and makes them failures before they even start the work.

    Tom Iron...
     
  14. StarWars

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    Black people are jokes. The only thing they can do well is run away. Black people may be considered strong at a more than subconscious level becasue they store their bodyfat differently, but we all know the main reason they are seen as strong is due to television.
     

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