White Runningbacks Lead The Way

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I was in a researching mood, so I spent most of the day examining the rushing leaders for every state in America. As you can see, white runningbacks were the leading rushers in 26 states, including some major caste states. These were the absolute leaders, not just seniors. I've included a bit of info on each player.


alaska - Greg Ghramm, 1,115yds 12TD, JR
connecticut - Max Delorenzo, 2,154yds 26TD, JR
georgia - Nile Knapp, 2,192yds 31TD, no known offers
idaho - Devin Droghei, 1,553yds 15TD, no known offers
illinois - TJ Stinde, 3,325yds 46TD, no known offers
kansas - Jorden Oden, 2,559yds 38TD, no known offers
kentucky - Rees MacShara, 3,073yds 42TD, no known offers
maine - Bill Wetherbee, 1,886yds 30TD, no known offers
maryland - Greg Goodwin, 2,564yds 33TD, no known offers
massachusetts - Connor Ressel, 1,924yds 30TD, no known offers
missouri - Caleb Schaffitzel, 2,711yds 40TD, no known offers
montana - Chad Price, 1,560yds 16TD, no known offers
nebraska - Derek Blessing, 1,368yds 13TD, no known offers
new hampshire - Kevin Brady, 1,870yds 23TD, no known offers
north dakota - Jason Hagen, 1,117yds 16TD, no known offers
ohio - Ricky Buckler, 2,269yds 32TD, no known offers
oklahoma - Zack Langer, 2,346yds 38TD, no known offers
oregon - Coulter Mastenbroek, 2,525yds 36TD, no known offers
rhode island - Nicholas Keeling, 1,633yds 14TD, no known offers
south carolina - Parker Headley, 2,614yds 27TD, no known offers
south dakota - Jayd Knodell, 1,450yds 15TD, no known offers
utah - Dylan Chynoweth, 2,261yds 34TD, Service Academy offers only
vermont - Jesse Burke, 1,149yds 11TD, JR
virginia - David Williams, 2,548yds 23TD, no known offers
washington - Dylen Heaward, 2,086yds 34TD, no known offers
wisconsin - Dillon Bean, 2,042yds 13TD, JR
wyoming - Shawn Straub, 1,992yds 31TD, JR

I looked at each of these guys (whatever information was available). All of them were All-State or All-District, depending on how their states choose those awards. Most of them were state champions of some sort in other sports (track, wrestling, baseball, even a state champion javelin thrower [Keeling]). They play at a range of school sizes. Langer out of Oklahoma plays for a major regional football power. Some of them have highlight vids (check out my thread on Knapp for the best highlight vid you'll see this year).
But the one thing they have in common, aside from being Caucasian, is that not a single one of them has gotten a D1A football scholarship (excepting Chynoweth, and I refuse to count the academies). Maybe the four juniors on this list can attract some attention for next year.Edited by: Riddlewire
 

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Nice work Riddlewire!! Blacks who put up worse numbers than these kids are offered tons of Division I scholarships. I have seen it happy locally on my towns high school team as well.
 

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damn, that is some great research!
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and damn, that is some frustrating information.
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Langer plays for Jenks High School in Oklahoma, one of the perennial great teams in the country. they routinely send numerous players to D-I, including tailbacks ... as long as they are the appropriate color for the position, of course.
 

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I'm sorry but I don't notice any trend here. Just a list of overrated, unexplosive, gritty, hard-nosed, undersized (or oversized) safeties and fullbacks who would make excellent special teams demons, but only because of the advantages they've had for being white. If any of these "boys" had to grow in in the ghetto, they wouldn't last a new yawk minute.

Just kidding.
 

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I agree. Great job researching this. If only the truth would become main stream. Our kids are screwed over year after year. Were lucky if 1 our of 50 get a shot. Even when they do, it's usually playing a different position. We need to keep fighting though. Seeing Gerhart breakthrough should inspire more kids to run the ball.
 

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Jayd Knodell should have AT LEAST a couple of FCS offers. Of course, were he black, he would have a couple of FBS offers by now, considering his team won the state championship. He runs with a lot of power, and he is elusive, making guys miss.Edited by: Jack Lambert
 

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I agree whitelightning but Gerhart has only gotten through the first barrier which is starting at rb in college. He now needs to be given an opportunity to showcase his skills in the NFL. This is the part where it gets tricky.
 

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Riddlewire, this is great information, but very depressing. Now, the real proof would be to see how many offers the 26 black running backs who led their state got. If it is a significant amount, and I'd guess that it would be, we'd have a clear case of discrimination.
 

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You know, if girls can win a supreme court case to get equal treatment as boys....

This evidence would be the strongest. We could have witness testimonies. All it would take is a head coach gving unfair treatment to a RB (Hillis, Hester, maybe Gerhart?), and the RB sueing them for racial discrimination.

Could there ever be white quotas?
 

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Jimmy Chitwood said:
damn, that is some great research!
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and damn, that is some frustrating information.
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Langer plays for Jenks High School in Oklahoma, one of the perennial great teams in the country. they routinely send numerous players to D-I, including tailbacks ... as long as they are the appropriate color for the position, of course.

Jenks pumped out running Beau Blankenship who signed with Iowa State last year. Two years in a row of having white rbs putting up monster numbers for one of the best teams in the state has to open some eyes, even drunk eyes.
 
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Remember guys there are things we can do to prevent being victimized. White players have to work harder and break through more barriers to achieve the same things. We can't expect things to be handed to white players like they are to blacks. Let's embrace this challenge and encourage white players, parents, coaches, fans and friends to do all they can to get their name out their to coaches and recruiters!
 

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Per JC's recommendation, I have updated the original post. A website mixup led to Jorden Oden of Kansas being left out of the original list. He has now been added, which, as you can see, means that exactly half the states in the U.S. were led by white runningbacks.
Also, I want to point out that in many cases white runningbacks held other spots in the top five rushers in each state. If you take into account more slots in each state, white RBs make up an even greater percentage of the leaders.
Edited by: Riddlewire
 

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Why is Massachusetts not on there I'm pretty sure our top 3 tailbacks, Ryan Izzo, Joe Colton, and Conor Ressel are all white?
 

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I just posted this list on the main forum on Scout.com. I asked why none(or veryfew of)of these guys are being recruited. We'll see if I get any replies.
 

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StarWars said:
Why is Massachusetts not on there I'm pretty sure our top 3 tailbacks, Ryan Izzo, Joe Colton, and Conor Ressel are all white?

Because all three of those guys have coaches who don't care enough about their players to post season statistics in any of the usual places.
After reading your post, I checked around for a while. I still can't find any statistical information on Izzo's senior season (he's a lost cause, anyway, since he has committed to UMass for Lacrosse), nor Joe Colton's season.
I did manage to find Ressel's season stats, but only because they were listed on an "all star team" article that was posted TODAY.
I'm not omniscient. The only information I have is whatever is available on the net. That's why we need more "state representatives" for high school football on this site. I know things about Arkansas high school football that you'd never be able to find on the internet. The info just isn't posted anywhere. I imagine it's like that for every state. I can't even vouch for the validity of the rest of the list (although I have high confidence in it). But, if you're reading this and you're aware of a player I left off, please mention him. I'll keep the leaders list up to date.
I'll wait for your reply before I update the MA leader. You'll need to tell me where I can find the season stats for Colton and Izzo.
 

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Izzo has the MA record for tds (103) over 3 seasons (in D2). Connor Ressel lead Eastern MA (so pretty much MA I'd imagine) in tds this year with 31 (in D1A). Colton led D1 but is a junior. I can't find any more stats. I can assure you though that MA does produce D1 RBs, but only in the rare event that the rushing leaders are black. There is a black rb this year who had 26 tds (in D2's worst division) and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a scholarship. But nobody notice these things....Edited by: StarWars
 

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I had posted this list to Scout.com with a question as to why they hadn't been recruited, and I received a reply from a member. The reply is "blind" to the problem, but contains good information as well, pretty much backs up what I said about white kids having to do all of the promoting for themselves. Here is the reply:

<DIV =message>"The juniors are less likely to be on the recruiting board than the current class which is at the peak of recruitment between now and signing day in early February, although there's no reason that a talented junior wouldn't have a profile already.

The individual players or their coaches need to submit profiles to the recruiting site to develop the initial profile. Again, a top of the line player may get a profile without any contribution, but most of the profiles you see started with a junior player filling out the site questionnaire.

[url]http://recruiting.scout.com/3/questionnaire.html[/url]

As far as why a player doesn't have offers, there can be a ton of reasons. He may be young (coaches may want to fill out this class before offering younger players), the player's academic status may not look like he'll get into a d1 school, he may have not been promoted by his high school coaches, or by himself, etc.

Some of the states you've listed above are not "big" states in terms of population and therefore don't get the media attention of the states with more people. Kids have to work a little harder from a "small" state to get recognized, but it happens every year, and the hard workers with talent CAN get noticed by colleges."
 

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FootballDad said:
I had posted this list to Scout.com
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Here is the reply:
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I hope your own reply was something like this:

He may be young (coaches may want to fill out this class before offering younger players)
Most of the players on the list are seniors.

the player's academic status may not look like he'll get into a d1 school
All of the players on the list are academically eligible. Most are honor students. One or two might be national merit scholars.

he may have not been promoted by his high school coaches, or by himself
All of the players on the list were either All-State or "Player of the Year" in their respective states. Most won other awards as well. At least several have made recruiting visits to colleges. How much more recognition is required?

Some of the states you've listed above are not "big" states in terms of population and therefore don't get the media attention of the states with more people.
Michael Dyer is Scout's #3 ranked runningback. He's from Arkansas (pop. ~2.8 million). He doesn't play at the highest level of high school football in the state. His team didn't win any championships. He didn't lead the state in rushing. Why does he have scholarship offers? Meanwhile, Zack Langer, Nile Knapp, and David Williams play in more populous states that have a well-known history of producing top football talent, and all three led their states in rushing. Yet none of them have a single scholarship offer.
 

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And then his response would be, "Well coaches try to look at who has the most potential for improvement." And the cyle continues. Then our response would be "why is it that only black players get recruited with the belief that only their talents could translate to the next level."

And then what. We're just a bunch of groveling racists. And then they see that we belong to castefootball, and some of us stormfront. And then we lose all credibility.


Only liberals have unearned and unchallenged credibility.
 

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Once race would be mentioned the conversation would end right then and there. That is what we are up against at this point but eventually race is going to have to be mentioned because it's the truth.
 
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"Some of the states you've listed above are not "big" states"
(HOW I WOULD RESPOND)
Correct. Some of the states are not big states. But if you wanna use that argument then what about the guyswho are the rushing leaders in the following states:Illinois(5th largest by pop), Ohio (7th), Georgia(9th), Virginia(12th),Washington(13th), and Massachusttes(15th).That's 6 running backs whoarefrom6 of the 15 most populist states,who lead their respective states in rushing yards this season, who have not been offered D1 scholarships.All of the states mentioned have a population of 6.5 million+. Just focus on these six players.Please explain, was this some sort of oversight? This is these kidsfutures we're talking about!

That's what you should write, infact,I'm thinking aboutposting it on Scout.com. I'm just worried that they'll think we're conspiring but whatever.

I know I'm a newbie and all, butif anyone does respond on Scout.com, I WOULD IN KNOW WAY MENTION WHAT THE PEOPLEON THIS LIST HAVE IN COMMON.DO NOT MENTION THAT THEY ARE ALL WHITE!Then they will label whomever posts an inquisitive response a "racist idiot."Play stupid, string em along, respond to theirposts with facts, lead the horse to water....letthem draw their own conclusions.This, of course, is just my humble opinion.Edited by: Toby Hillis
 

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Toby Hillis said:
"Some of the states you've listed above are not "big" states"
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<div>Correct. Some of the states are not big states. But if you wanna use that argument than what about the guyswho are the rushing leaders in the following states:Illinois(5th largest by pop), Ohio (7th), Georgia(9th), Virginia(12th),Washington(13th), and Massachusttes(15th).That's 6 running backs whoarefrom6 of the 15 most populist states,who lead their respective states in rushing yards this season, who have not been offered D1 scholarships.All of the states mentioned have a population of 6.5 million+. Just focus on these six players.Please explain, was this some sort of oversight? This is these kidsfutures we're talking about!</div>
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<div>That's what you should write, infact,I'm thinking aboutposting it on Scout.com. I'm just worried that they'll think we're conspiring but whatever.</div>
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<div>I know I'm a newbie and all, butif anyone does respond on Scout.com, I WOULD IN KNOW WAY MENTION WHAT THE PEOPLEON THIS LIST HAVE IN COMMON.DO NOT MENTION THAT THEY ARE ALL WHITE!Then they will label whomever posts an inquisitive response a "racist idiot."Play stupid, string em along, respond to theirposts with facts, lead the horse to water....letthem draw their own conclusions.This, of course, is just my humble opinion.</div>

Toby I have gotten that same explanation from people before. I mentioned several top runningbacks from NJ who were white and the response was that Jersey doesn't produce many top prospects.
 
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"Toby I have gotten that same explanation from people before. I mentioned several top runningbacks from NJ who were white and the response was that Jersey doesn't produce many top prospects"...(sorryhavent figuredout the quote/replysystem)


What about the "great"
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Knowshow Moreno? Isnt he from Jersey?.... I guessI have to get my head around this fact: We are fighting afight thatfeels impossible to win.Edited by: Toby Hillis
 
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Years ago, I read that New Jersey had a lot of high school football talent with no regional loyalty, meaning New Jersey prospects will travel.
 
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