TUF Season 10 - Heavyweights

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McSweeney looks white enough to me but I thought he lost his first fight. He gassed badly and I think he is the weakest link left. You are right DD, Kimbo might beat him if Mitrione doesn't fight. Matt needs to man up as this is a very winnable fight for him.

Big Country or Schaub are the two best fighters this season. Wren might be the third best fighter on the show as well. All have bright futures. Schoonover might be better than expected as well and I will certainly cheer for him over Jones.
 

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He looks to me like he is just addicted to tanning beds and tattoos. I have seen pictures of him floating around the net that are very white, you might even say pale. He also has a pug nose which may throw some people off. The one left who looks like he has questionable ancestry to me is "tiddies" Schoonover. He is undoubtedly a Mestizo, with high cheek bones and everything.

On a side note, isn't it amazing how Marcus Jones has no cardio? He is a former first round NFL draft pick, who we are told are the worlds worlds greatest athletes. I would love to be able to go back and read scouting reports about him. At his height and size, and where he ended up in the draft there were no doubt rave reports by scouts and commentators about his physical specimen and athletic prowess. He is a great specimen alright, by appearance at least. Like a hot rod with no juice in the tank. Grossly fat Roy Nelson who looks like he eats double cheeseburgers for breakfast, lunch and dinner is a MUCH MUCH BETTER conditioned athlete than he is. Edited by: Bear Backer
 

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Fedor has proven time & time against MMA isn't a bodybuilding contest. Guys like Matt Lindland (Olympic Silver Medalist), Josh Barnett & even Nog don't have "impressive"/cut physiques, but are top notch MMA fighters. I think Roy should drop to 240-245 to help his quickness & cardio (a tad), but he can win this show/contract "as is".

***I hope Matt M. attaches his nardz & fights. I don't want that can Bimbo given another "chance" (despite the fact he supposedly already signed a UFC contract & is on the Finale card).
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They never stop trying to hype the magic negro Bimbo up do they. The DWF's are still wondering how a guy who beat up a few bums on Youtube videos is getting his a-s kicked in real MMA.
 

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They never stop trying to hype the magic negro Bimbo up do they. The DWF's are still wondering how a guy who beat up a few bums on Youtube videos is getting his a-s kicked in real MMA.

Kimbo should have stuck to fighting bums. He will never beat a halfway decent opponent in MMA. The only people he has beaten are washed up half a century old boxers, toothless idiots who haven't taken their careers serious since the mid 90's, if they ever really cared at all, a guy who is a B or maybe even C level fighter with a cauliflowered ear the size of the moon and a guy who wouldn't fight back and got barred from Elite XC in the process. Even the ex cop Sean Gannon was too much for him. In a just world, Bimbo would never get a big payday and would be stuck fighting winos and crackheads in his backyard. Just how many losses does it take for the damn gravy train to end? I hope he gets completely knocked out cold in this next fight. I want to see him laying there flat on his back unable to even go turtle or even move for minutes so this Kimbo crap can end once and for all. Of course, they will probably line him up with another hand picked tomato can who can't really knock him out so they can try to ride the train longer, which will make Dana White a big fat liar in addition to being a potty mouthed brat.
 

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"The one left who looks like he has questionable ancestry to me is "tiddies" Schoonover. He is undoubtedly a Mestizo, with high cheek bones and everything."

Schoonover's mother is Mexican and father is white (probably German or Dutch given the name). I still have no problem cheering for him over The Great Black Nope. Would love to see him take a swing at the overated and not so funny Rampage Jackson as well.

Not sure if anyone else caught this, but Schoonover said he would beat "your monkey ass" last time after Rampage called him titties.
 

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Scoonover might be mestizo, but I'm pulling for him against "PEDcus YOnes". If Schoon can keep it standing & get to "Big Baby", he has a good chance at beating the "afflete".
 

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Here's the fight card for tonight's TUF 10/HWs Finale in "Lost Wages" (9PM ET on Spike)...

Main Card

* Heavyweight bout: Roy Nelson vs. Brendan Schaub
* Light Heavyweight bout: Matt Hamill vs. Jon Jones
* Catchweight (215 lb) bout: Kimbo Slice vs. Houston Alexander
* Lightweight bout: Frank Edgar vs. Matt Veach
* Heavyweight bout: Marcus Jones vs. Matt Mitrione

Preliminary Card

* Heavyweight bout: Darrill Schoonover vs. James McSweeney
* Heavyweight bout: Jon Madsen vs. Justin Wren
* Light Heavyweight bout: Brian Stann vs. Rodney Wallace
* Welterweight bout: John Howard vs. Dennis Hallman
* Lightweight bout: Mark Bocek vs. Joe Brammer

I'll be pulling for Big Country, Hamill, Alexander (the lesser of "2 evils" vs. Bimbo Lice), Mitrione vs. "afflete" PEDcus YOnes, "Titties" Schoonover (although he's mestizo, he's fighting douchebag & possible fellow mestizo McSweeny), USMC war hero Stann against "afflete" Walalce, & Hallman vs. "afflete" Howard. There's 3 caste matchups on this card...fyi. WPWW!


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Disappointed that the Stann match might not be televised, he has been more than impressive in the past on Spike and Versus.
 

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Are you guys sure McSweeney is mestizo LOL, I don't think there are too many of those in the UK seeing as how they're no AmerIndians. More likely he is half Arab like Lee Murray or half Pakistani
 

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Bimbo's fight with Alexander was even worse than I thought it would be. It was almost as big of a farce as Lice's fight with Bo Cantrell. Even the announcers were having trouble faking the scripted interest. UFC better be careful with their cash cow Bimbo Lice, because if they keep up this chicanery they are going to be in danger of appearing crooked and rigged like boxing.
 

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Mcsweeneys a proper born and bred white Londoner from the UK,theirs videos up of him on youtube if your in doubt.I think hes an athletic guy with alot of tools and potential,may have to drop down to Light heavy though.Mitriones another good athlete with great potential.
 

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Wow, I have been really disappointed by UFC's live presentation. Lots of feed cut offs and audio problems. It doesn't look professional at all.
 

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Here's the results from tonight's TUF 10 Finale...

Preliminary Card

* Lightweight bout: Mark Bocek vs. Joe Brammer

Bocek defeated Brammer via submission (rear-naked choke) at 3:36 of round one. This bout aired on the Spike broadcast after the Slice vs. Alexander fight.

* Welterweight bout: John Howard vs. Dennis Hallman

Howard defeated Hallman via KO (Strikes) at 4:55 of round 3.
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* Light Heavyweight bout: Brian Stann vs. Rodney Wallace

Stann defeated Wallace via unanimous decision. (30-27, 29-28, 29-28)
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* Heavyweight bout: Jon Madsen vs. Justin Wren

Madsen defeated Wren via split decision. (30-27, 28-29, 29-28)

* Heavyweight bout: Darrill Schoonover vs. James McSweeney

McSweeney defeated Schoonover via TKO (Strikes) at 3:20 of Round 3. This bout aired on the Spike broadcast after the Jones vs. Hamill fight.

Main Card (Spike TV)

* Heavyweight bout: Marcus Jones vs. Matt Mitrione

Mitrione defeated Jones via KO (Punches) at 0:10 of Round 2.
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* Lightweight bout: Frank Edgar vs. Matt Veach

Edgar defeated Veach via Submission (Rear Naked Choke) at 2:22 of Round 2.

* Catchweight (215 lb) bout: Kimbo Slice vs. Houston Alexander

Slice defeated Alexander via unanimous decision. (29-28, 29-28, 30-27)

* Light Heavyweight bout: Matt Hamill vs. Jon Jones

Hamill defeated Jones via DQ (illegal elbow) at 4:14 of Round 1. Jones delivered a "12-to-6" vertical elbow that split open the bridge of Hamill's nose.
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***Good call on the DQ for illegal strikes!

* Heavyweight bout: Roy Nelson vs. Brendan Schaub

Nelson defeated Shaub via KO (Punch) at 3:25 of Round 1 to become the Season 10 Heavyweight winner of The Ultimate Fighter.

***My Notes...

- Schoonover did look even more outta shape then during the show, but he might be stressed over his upcoming deployment to Iraq.
- McSweeney is a douchebag but a decent fighter. He needs to cut to 205 IMO.
- I was glad to see Matt M. KO "afflete" PEDcus YOnes. Matt has heavy hands, good reach & chin. He needs to keep working the wrestling, BJJ & cardio.
- Alexander looked scared of Bimbo, or as if he was trying to throw the fight?? Very odd to see that constant circling around the ring & lack of engaging. I'm betting Dana runs his @$$ out of the UFC. Bimbo showed more agression & some attempts at a ground game, but will still get OWNED against a B+ level HW. I think he also needs to drop to 205...he weighed in at 212 for this fight.
- Dana announced that the TUF 11 coaches are Tito Ortiz & Chuck Liddell coaching the middleweights. Season 11 starts in April next year.





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Sad about the Hallman loss, he controlled the fight for 3 rounds and then then got KO'd in the last seconds
 

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Kimbum's " opponent" did what he was paid to do: run around the ring, not throw significant punches to Kimbum's jaw (it's made of glass) and get taken down during the clinches. What a farce. I don't like Dana White because he is on the affirmative affroletes bandwagon and is probably very disappointed Big country won the UFC contract, rather than Big black baby.
 

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WHITE NOISE said:
Kimbum's " opponent" did what he was paid to do: run around the ring, not throw significant punches to Kimbum's jaw (it's made of glass) and get taken down during the clinches. What a farce. I don't like Dana White because he is on the affirmative affroletes bandwagon and is probably very disappointed Big country won the UFC contract, rather than Big black baby.

Yeah, it sickens me to the core to read some of the comments posted on Yahoo about Kimbo showing something tonight. He didn't show anything other than the fact that he is still the same crappy fighter with no cardio who had a hand picked opponent with no ground defense, who suspiciously did nothing but land weak kicks with his front leg while Kimbo stood there like a dope. That bout was as weak and suspect as the Griffin v Silva fight. Even then, with all those things stacked in Kimbo's favor he still put on one of the most pathetic and boring performances in UFC history and there were even a couple spots were I thought he might have been in trouble, had he had an opponent who was willing to finish him and not just take a pay day. Once when he got hit by the only legit leg kick that Alexander threw and another when he got hit by a fairly decent shot towards the end of one of the rounds.

I was so happy that Big Country won, not because I have anything against Schaub, but because it will obviously make Dana White very unhappy. Schaub has tremendous upside and will be be back and continue to get better. I also liked the jab that Country took at Kimbo slice after his fight. Kimbo is a joke, and if Dana White and UFC keep playing this Kimbo hype game like Elite XC, they are going to rightfully start to look like a joke as well. If Dana White had any honor and cared about the dignity of MMA, he would feed Bimbo to someone who would really just obliterate him in about 20 seconds and completely end this hype train once and for all. Lice can't beat anyone but toothless crack bums and paid patsies. He is a black mark on MMA, and this farce needs to end. Edited by: Bear Backer
 

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Dixie are you sure Jones didn't win? I actually watched that fight and he was pounding Hamill and then they stopped the fight. I though it was a TKO victory for Jones. I thought he won because I turned the tv off at that point. I was too pissed.
 

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whiteathlete33 said:
Dixie are you sure Jones didn't win?  I actually watched that fight and he was pounding Hamill and then they stopped the fight.  I though it was a TKO victory for Jones.  I thought he won because I turned the tv off at that point.  I was too pissed.



WA33, Jon Jones was GNP'ing Hamill (Hamill blocked most of the strikes), but hit him with several illegal elbow strikes. Jones did TKO Hamill, but broke the rules in the process.

Jon Jones, despite being an afrolete, is a really good fighter, and seems to be a total class act. He is very young and has a huge wingspan. I'm worried that he'll develop into an Anderson Silva-type.

Marcus Jones, on the other hand, is finished in MMA. Kimbo and Alexander fought one of the most bizarre and boring MMA fights I've ever witnessed. Also, it was nice to watch Dana squirm as he handed Nelson his trophy. Nelson should be proof positive that "average looking white guys" can hang with anyone. Hopefully this nation of obese DWFs saw a little piece of themselves within the self-taught "Big Country." Rogan and Goldberg had a great time repeating the "Roy is fat" mantra-of-the-moron"¦.which was repeated nearly every minute.

Schaub is explosive, big, and strong (though I'm not sure if he's entirely white)"¦.he should be back.

Overall, a really good night for our guys.
 

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Really good weekend for us in the combat sports. It was truly a showcase for our all-around skill.

Schilt won his fourth K-1 Grand Prix(kickboxing), Huck won(boxing) and we almost swept the TUF card (MMA).
 

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Thrashen said:
whiteathlete33 said:
Dixie are you sure Jones didn't win?  I actually watched that fight and he was pounding Hamill and then they stopped the fight.  I though it was a TKO victory for Jones.  I thought he won because I turned the tv off at that point.  I was too pissed.



WA33, Jon Jones was GNP'ing Hamill (Hamill blocked most of the strikes), but hit him with several illegal elbow strikes. Jones did TKO Hamill, but broke the rules in the process.

Jon Jones, despite being an afrolete, is a really good fighter, and seems to be a total class act. He is very young and has a huge wingspan. I'm worried that he'll develop into an Anderson Silva-type.

Marcus Jones, on the other hand, is finished in MMA. Kimbo and Alexander fought one of the most bizarre and boring MMA fights I've ever witnessed. Also, it was nice to watch Dana squirm as he handed Nelson his trophy. Nelson should be proof positive that "average looking white guys" can hang with anyone. Hopefully this nation of obese DWFs saw a little piece of themselves within the self-taught "Big Country." Rogan and Goldberg had a great time repeating the "Roy is fat" mantra-of-the-moron"¦.which was repeated nearly every minute.

Schaub is explosive, big, and strong (though I'm not sure if he's entirely white)"¦.he should be back.

Overall, a really good night for our guys.

I would love to see a rematch in that fight between Jones and Hamill. Something happened to Matt's shoulder where he could not use his arm to properly defend himself on the ground or use his wrestling. I don't know if it happened in that take down, sometime before or when he was on the ground. Hamill is hard to understand because of his speech impediment due to being hearing impaired. Rogan asked him when it happened, but Matt didn't really seem to fully understand the question. Jones might still beat him in a rematch, but I bet it would be a much closer fight.
 
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