The Confederate Flag

Colonel_Reb · Mar 6, 2007

Just as with other Confederate flags, there were many variations of the Stars and Bars (First National), thenewest being thecurrent Georgia flag, which by the way, has looked like the Stars and Bars for many years, off and on. Here are some other examples.

Original 7 Star Version

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Another 13 Star Version

11Star Version

12 Star Vicksburg Version

12 Star Orleans Rifles Version

17 Star California Secession Version

11 Star 7th Texas Cavalry

11 Star 24th Georgia Irish Brigade Version

9 Star C.S.S. Curley Version

14 Star Maryland Version

11 Star 5th Kentucky and 11th Mississippi Version

8 Star 2nd Florida Version

13 Star 31st Alabama Infantry Version

11 Star Grand Illuminary Version

13 Star 7th Tennessee Version

15 Star 26th Tennessee Version

Georgia flag 1879-1902

Georgia flag 1902-1906

Georgia flag 1906-1920

Georgia flag 1920-1956

Proposed 2003 Georgia flag

New Georgia Flag

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Quiet Speed · Mar 6, 2007

Hey Colonel Reb, thought you might like this site: Confederate Flag History. You probably are familiar with most of the info.

I had completely forgotten that the original First National Flag was at Beauvoir - Jefferson Davis Home and Presidential Library in Biloxi. Beauvoir is right there on the beach in Biloxi, so I am wondering if the flag was loss during Katrina. Before and after photos of Beauvoir are on this page. More info on wikipediaEdited by: Quiet Speed

Colonel_Reb · Mar 6, 2007

Thanks for the link Quiet Speed. Yeah, if its about Confederate flags, I've probably seen it.

There is an effort underway to restore Beauvoir to its former glory. Pretty much all the surrounding buildings were destroyed completely, but the main house at Beauvoir will be rebuilt. To donate to the reconstruction effort, check out this page:

http://www.beauvoir.org/Edited by: Colonel_Reb

Bronk · Mar 7, 2007

On trips from Texas to visit my mother's relatives in Alabama when I was a kid, Confederate flags were on EVERYTHING. Flags of all sizes were sold in stores all through the South.

I had a big rebel battle flag on the wall in my bedroom from the time I was six. Took it with me to college when I got out of the Marines. It hangs in my eldest son's room right now.

When I played Optimist League football, my first team was the Rebels. Our helmet decals was the mascot from the local community college, Lee College:

I went to Robert E. Lee High School in Baytown and every Friday night the fans brought their Confederate battle flags out to wave in support of the team. The stands were full of rebel flags.

Below is a picture of a San Antonio Robert E. Lee player from 1972. The Confederate flag was a part of the uniform as you can see:

here is a picture of a player from the 1965 Stephen F. Austin State U. football team. Defensive players wore rebel flags on their helmets:

Colonel_Reb · Mar 7, 2007

Sweet pics Bronk! You never disappoint. I could only dream about playing with the Battle flag on my uniform. There are private schoolteams who still use it in and outside the South, and its good to see. UNLV used Confederate Battle flag football decals in their helmets in their first year of football, 1968. At that time, they were known as Nevada Southern. Here's a pic of that helmet.

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Bronk · Mar 7, 2007

All of the seniors on my high school football team pasted the rebel flag on our sleeves for our final game against Baytown Sterling. Sterling made much of our Confederate ties and our namesake, Robert E. Lee. They always had a huge banner in the stadium that read "Welcome to Appomattox." Their favorite tune for our game was "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down."

We crushed their asses then waved the rebel flag at their fans as they played their school song.

Scoreboard.

Colonel_Reb · Mar 7, 2007

Awesome stuff Bronk! I love hearing stories like that. The only game I can relate that too was the 2002 Ole Miss/Florida game. I smuggled my flag into the game as usual and had a great time taunting the cocky Florida fans from the North end zone of the stadium after the game. We tore down the goal post after beating the heavily favored Gators in Oxford that day. I grabbed a piece of turf from that end zone and still have it today. That was the perfect day for me as a Rebel fan. Archie signed my hat earlier that day in the Grove, I met Rex Grossman's family, we won the game, I got to wave my flag in the end zone, and then I helped a guy wave a huge one from his RV on the way to my vehicle. He took his PC flag down and I helped him put the Battle flag up and waved it with him while fans walked past. I also remember some Frat guys storming the field with a huge Battle flag before I left my seat for the field. If I only had it on film. I actually saw a bit of it on a youtube video last year. There were several Battle flags in the stands that day. Edited by: Colonel_Reb

Bronk · Mar 7, 2007

I do recall reading that Florida wore rebel flags on their jerseys when they played, I think Penn State, in the early 1960s and recorded an upset of the Nittanys that day.

The Lee-Sterling game was a vicious rivalry, really nasty when I was growing up. One year, after beating us, their band marched over to our locker room after the game and played "The Night..." Oh my gawd. The riot that ensued from that one lasted for hours and cops had to be called in from neighboring towns to quell it. I could really go into a ton of tales about that game, known in Baytown as THE Game, which was regularly played before 20,000-plus in the 1970s and early 80s.

One day I am going to Oxford and experience The Grove. Everyone I have ever known who has been there rave about it.Edited by: Bronk

DixieDestroyer · Mar 7, 2007

Col.Reb, you're correct partner...it's the CSA Battle Flag I've got as a vanity plate on front of my truck. I like to see the look at some of the pinkos & woodpile's faces whenever I (rarely) drive down to Atlanta for game or to the airport! I'm thinking of adding a "Dixie" horn ala Bo & Luke Duke!

Colonel_Reb · Mar 7, 2007

Dixie, I have thought about gettingone of thosehorns myself.

Bronk, yeah Florida wore the battle flag on their helmets in the 1962 Gator Bowl. PSU was 9-1 and UF was 6-4. Florida won 17-7.

Colonel_Reb · Apr 2, 2007

Here are a couple of articles I just found on events surrounding the flag.

S.C. high court tosses BBQ magnate's suit against grocery stores

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04.02.07

COLUMBIA, S.C. Ã¢â‚¬â€ The South Carolina Supreme Court has tossed out a lawsuit filed by barbecue magnate Maurice Bessinger accusing several grocery store chains of unfair trade by not selling his sauce on their shelves.

Nine chains with over 3,000 stores between them removed Bessinger's mustard-based barbecue sauce in 2000 after he raised the Confederate flag over his restaurants in protest of the General Assembly's decision to take the Confederate flag off the top of the Statehouse dome.

News stories at the time also pointed out Bessinger distributed literature at his restaurants with titles like "The South Was Right" and "Myths of American Slavery."

Bessinger sued Bi-Lo, Food Lion, Harris Teeter, Kroger, Publix, Wal-Mart, Sam's Club, Winn-Dixie and Piggly Wiggly stores, asking for $50 million. He said they violated his right to free speech under the state's Unfair Trade Practices Act by removing his barbecue sauce.

The state Supreme Court recently upheld rulings by two lower courts that Bessinger's case did not have enough merit to be heard by a jury.

Bessinger attorney Glen Winston LaForce Sr. said the ruling ends Bessinger's legal fight.

"Mr. Bessinger is still proudly flying the Confederate flag. He stood for his principles, and I'm proud of him for that," LaForce said.

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Like many people in Sun City Hilton Head, I fly the American flag, my Marine Corps flag, my college flag and other more seasonal flags on occasion. That is my right, and it would be unacceptable to me for anyone to try and abridge this right or to dictate what flag I fly or when.

Whether my Marine Corps flag offends anyone is irrelevant to me. Perhaps there are Muslims living in Sun City who would be offended by my American flag. That too is irrelevant. I am proud of the history and traditions represented by these flags.

After living in one or another Southern state for almost 50 years, I feel qualified to tell our newfound residents from New Jersey and New York that from Texas to Virginia, Oklahoma through Georgia, one can observe the Confederate flag flown in towns, cities and farmlands. There is a pride in the heritage represented by this flag. To suggest that the flag simply stands for slavery is a fabrication foisted on the majority of the American people by the NAACP, ACLU and other black activist organizations who have successfully flaunted the political power of only 12 percent of the American population.

If you are offended by the flying of the Confederate flag, may I less than respectfully suggest that you return to the state of your origin and try to reconcile yourselves to whatever inadequacies "up there" that caused you to come south in the first place. In short, use I-95 North.

George W. Goodwyn

Bluffton

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The decision to join the Marines is permanent.

Once a Marine, always a Marine, said Sgt. Jonathan Gilmore, of the U.S. Marine Corps Recruiting Command.

"Being in the Marine Corps is tattooed in your heart," he said.

Starting today, Marines can no longer wear that sentiment as an inky sleeve.

New tattoos that cover an entire portion of the arm or leg, sometimes called sleeve tattoos, no longer will be allowed.

Over the years, military regulations on tattoos have changed with tattoos' popularity. Most branches advise service members to avoid tattoos that would be visible in uniform. Any that show are career-limiting, Gunnery Sgt. Daniel Moore said.

Tattoos or brands on the neck or hands are grounds for barring enlistment to most branches with the exception of the Army. Tattoos that are vulgar, sexist, racist or gang-related are prohibited no matter where they are.

Moore said a recent recruit with a possible gang-related tattoo required a letter from the Gang Task Force clearing him of any affiliations before joining the Corps.

Even if a recruit removed the questionable tattoo, Moore said that wouldn't be good enough.

It's more than cleaning up the Marine image, it's also the intent behind the tattoo in the first place, he said.

A tattoo of a Confederate flag might be grounds for denial. A Confederate flag that includes a flag for the state of South Carolina might be allowed, if it's a symbol of state pride, Moore said.

Gilmore took on three tattoos after joining the Corps because he felt it was Marine tradition. The letters USMC cover the side of his arm and a tribal band surrounds it. The tattoo hidden under the sleeve of a T-shirt still would be allowed under the new tattoo policy.

"Being a Marine, that never goes away, it's just a visual representation," Gilmore said.

The tribal tattoo is in blue ink with red drops at the corners. The colors match those found in Marine dress slacks. The navy blue pants have a blood-red stripe down the seam for the Battle of Chapultepec. The 1847 Mexican-American war battle left 138 Americans dead.

Gilmore also has a "meat tag" on his torso, a tattoo of personal identification including his blood type should something happen.

Staff Sgt. Kevin Patton, has seven tattoos, including an English bulldog, a Marine Corps mascot.

"It's a pride issue," he said.

His tattoos also are hidden in long pants and a T-shirt. Even without the new regulations, the men say they would keep tattoos to discreet locations in case they retired and chose a civilian career.

Public Affairs Officer Scott Bassett of Naval Weapons Station Charleston said he hopes tattoo studios learn the policies and advise Marines that a tattoo on the face, neck or hands is a bad idea.

However, most South Carolina Marines won't have to worry about where to put a tattoo. State laws require that anyone younger than 21 have parental consent before receiving a tattoo. That's something service members don't want to hear, considering their parents typically live elsewhere, said Miles Smith, who owns Medieval Tattoo Studio outside Moncks Corner.

"At 18, you're old enough to go to war, but you are not old enough to get a tattoo," Smith said.

Reach Jessica Johnson at jjohnson@postandcourier.comor 745-5860.Edited by: Colonel_Reb

Colonel_Reb · Apr 13, 2007

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Andrew Sullivan implies that we take issue with federalism. Certainly not. There are certainly a great many questions, most of them cultural and provincial, that are best decided by state and local governments. And Rudy Giuliani might even be correct, in an ultimate sense, that the topics he's been confronted with are best deliberated and adjudicated by state legislatures.

We're a politics blog, and so we're making a political point.

Giuliani is also deliberately using federalism as a cover to avoid having to reveal his personal opinion about topics of longstanding cultural controversy.

It's one thing to say that the topics of slavery apologies, or gun control, or even abortion, are best handled stateside. But saying so does not magically obliterate a presidential candidate's duty to explain why said issue is best grappled with by the states, and most importantly it is no excuse whatsoever for the candidate not to give his personal opinion. Personal sentiments are vital clues to character. And Rudy's candidacy is predicated on characterological attributes: his force of will, his personal tolerance, his candor, his strength of convinction, and his leadership abilities.

By scooping up so many issues into his state right's satchel, Giuliani dodges his responsibility as a presidential candidate to explain to the electorate why he believes that the right to abortion is not absolute, or why he believes that states can fly the Confederate Flag, or whether he believes that, as abhorrent a symbol as that flag may have become, states certainly have the "right" to fly it. That last example is instructive. No one we know of has ever asserted that Congress should ban the Confederate Flag. It is a dodge - a plain dodge - to simply say that it's a state's rights issue. No one disputes that. Rudy has decided he does not need to tell Alabamans whether he personally endorses the idea.

In 2000, John McCain was asked about the flag in South Carolina. In a thin voice, he proceeded to tell reporters that it was a state issue and he wouldn't get involved. McCain now admits that he was intellectually dishonest. There was never any doubt that South Carolina had the right to fly the flag, but by omitting his personal opinion, McCain avoid the political consequences of acknowledging that the flag evoked very painful and even hurtful feelings in black South Carolinians.

Give Mitt Romney credit. In 2002, he told Massachusetts residents that while he personally was pro-life, but he said he recognized that both the law and the state's cultural habits would not countenance any significant changes to abortion law. (Disregard, for the sake of this argument, anything else you've read about Romney and abortion).

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Yeah, this is what's really getting to me about Rudy. I originally supported the guy because of all those character traits he projected. But now, I see he doesn't have vision or moral fiber. You can't run your entire platform on cleaning up after 9/11. He provided a great service then, but if his entire candicacy is running on the conviction that arose out of 9/11 that we need to "fight" the terrorists, then it's not enough for me. What George Bush has neglected to realize during his entire presidency is that in addition to mismanaging a war that has been his ENTIRE focus, he is also running a country (or failing to).

C'mon Rudy, REALLY stick to your convictions, don't just pretend to when you have no defense 'cause it's on youtube for all to see. EXPLAIN your convictions. Otherwise, it's gonna sound like pandering and hollowness. Force of personality means nothing if there's no inner moral compass there. Force of personality means nothing if it's just used to buck people up in a crisis or to assert who's boss. You're good in a crisis BECAUSE you like to be boss. But that's NOT ENOUGH. Show us there is.

And learn some facts about world politics and policy. You're very thin/weak on those, and sorry, travelling to 40 countries does not make you an expert.

An indication of a good leader is somebody who is able to MANAGE people (which is done with diplomacy both political and interpersonal), not just intimidate them into submission or ignore them if they don't agree with you. The world hates us. We need to realize that we exist within the world context. I don't think you do. It's a failing of many americans, and an understandable one given our geographical isolation, but eventually that bubble is going to burst. That's what 9/11 should have told us. But it didn't. I don't want another 9/11. I'm afraid, with the direction George Bush has taken, we will.

But maybe that's what you want. After all, you are so good in a crisis. And that's what I'm afraid of. Convince me I'm wrong. For a start, you can stop being vague about your positions. Put meat behind the words.Stand behind all of them, not just the ones you can't back out of because they've been captured on video.

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Are you joking by calling Rudy a strong leader. Remember Bernie Kerik? Remember how he ignored fire fighters during WTC cleanup process? Now its reported that Rudy is being advised on Iraq by none other than John Bolton who was even ignored by Bush.

By the way a leader leads from the front by expressing personal opinion, he does not hide behind "state issue" facade.

Giving Romney the credit for abortion stance is another joke. The flip-flopper has changed his positions so many times that he is more than mutiple choice Mitt. He was telling one thing to pro-choice groups and another thing to anti-choice groups. None of the statements uttered by Mitt have any cerdibility.

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I understand Ambinder's point, but I'm still uncomfortable with the fact that we expect political candidates to pass moral judgment on everything under the sun, regardless of whether the issue is something that they would even have any purview over in office.

"What do you think of people who fly the Confederate flag?" "Do you think Don Imus should be fired from his job?" These questions are asked as a way of playing "gotcha", and don't have much to do with what a president would do in office. How far do we go with this? Should we ask every presidential candidate to explain in detail what his or her religious beliefs are?

If you don't think an issue should be handled by the federal government, then I don't see why you should be asked to comment on how you would deal with the issue if you *did* think it should be handled by the federal government. It's as if we're asking the federal government to pass moral judgment on every possible activity in the country, whether they regulate it or not.
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Colonel_Reb · Apr 14, 2007

Spurrier wants S.C. statue flag gone.

Pictures courtesy of myself.

Read more here.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6684398

Bart · Apr 16, 2007

"My opinion is we don't need the Confederate flag at our Capitol," Spurrier said Saturday. "I don't really know anybody that wants it there, but I guess there are a lot of South Carolinians that do want it there."

He doesn't know anybody that wants it there?I find that very hard to believe,unless people are afraid to openly voice their opinions about the subject.

vrag · Apr 20, 2007

They had a poll and a story about the confederate flag at the S.C. statehouse at espn.com. At the start the people against the flag were winning the poll 52-48, but after a while the people for the flag were up 51-49. Then mysteriously the poll was deleted from the story.

jaxvid · Apr 20, 2007

I've been to South Carolina a few times. They will soon be flying the Mexican flag from the capital because the influx of Mexicans is unbelievable. There is no one with the will to stop them. In 20 years this controversy will be laughed off by Govenor Hernandez and his compadre's.

Colonel_Reb · Apr 20, 2007

South Carolina is the only state in the Deep South that I haven't been to. I hope to visit Charleston soon though, maybe even this summer. I don't doubt they took the poll off once they saw the results being unfavorable to their liberal, cookie cutter agenda.

Bronk · Apr 21, 2007

That Marine story is a stunner. As a Marine my own damn self, I cannot imagine the Corps going that way.

When I was in in the early 1980s, Southern boys regularly displayed the battle flag on Papahumps. Some black guys grumbled, but not much.

Colonel_Reb · Apr 21, 2007

What is a papahump, Bronk?

Colonel_Reb · Apr 24, 2007

More garbage from Coach Superior. Its all about image, just like Slick Willy. I never thought it would be possible for me to dislike the guy anymore than I used to, but he's found a way to make it happen!

TimesDispatch.com

By Bob Lipper

There are two things you can say about Steve Spurrier (well, three if you're a Redskins fan). First, he's got principles and guts. And second, he maybe thinks his Gamecocks will be pretty good this year.

Spurrier, you might be aware, is now the football coach at South Carolina. His Floyd Building office adjacent to the stadium is about two miles from the state capitol grounds where the Confederate battle flag flies alongside a monument that honors Confederate soldiers.

The Ol' Ball Coach would like to lower that flag for good.

Some people think he has a better chance of winning in Athens, Baton Rouge and Knoxville this season.

But you've got to give it up to him for trying.

Spurrier made his pitch last weekend -- first while accepting a leadership award at Columbia's convention center and then during interviews that followed USC's spring game. He said it'd been "embarrassing" when someone waved a Confederate flag behind ESPN's "GameDay" set before a Gamecocks home game last season. He also said it "would make us a more progressive, better state" if the flag were removed from the capitol grounds.

He categorically denied his stance was taken in an effort to better woo hot-shot wideouts and strong safeties to his roster.

"I mentioned it hopefully to make our state a better place," Spurrier said. "There's no gain in recruiting. We can recruit. But it would just make our state a more progressive state in the eyes of the nation. People would look at South Carolina in a better light."

Spurrier is about the biggest thing to hit the Palmetto State since Refrigerator Perry -- and the most glamorous since Andie MacDowell did her first photo shoot -- but not even zapping the Gators during his 2005 debut gives him a free pass when it comes to this stars-and-bars debate.

The governor, through a spokesman, distanced himself from Spurrier's proposal, for example. The state senator who sponsored the bill that moved the flag from the capitol dome to the monument threw a crack-back block at Spurrier. And a state officer with Sons of Confederate Veterans told the Columbia newspaper that Spurrier's call for removing the flag was "the moral equivalent of calling our ancestors 'nappy-headed hos.'"

Which goes to show that Imus isn't the only irrational voice in the neighborhood.

"If you had a relative who died in the Confederate war, maybe you'd feel very strongly about it, too," Spurrier observed. "But that's history. If it represents something that angers people, then why do that?"

Fact is, South Carolina was the last southern state to remove the flag from its capitol. A year after the flag's location was switched, the NCAA instituted a ban that still prohibits the state from hosting such events as basketball regionals or bowl games. The NAACP has in force an ongoing boycott of South Carolina's tourism industry.

So there's, like, an issue here.

And Steve Spurrier has, like, never been the sort to duck an issue. Say what you will about the man -- and I've always sorta liked his moxie -- but he's as up-front and plain-spoken as they come.

"I'm not trying to be a politician," he said. "I just gave my opinion. I did mention that if our team wins the conference championship, then I'll have a bigger voice. That's just the way life is. If we stumble-bumble around, no one gives a dang what I say. If I want to make a change to hopefully make this state better, we need to win big."

Says here even if he goes sub-.500, he's won big just by taking this stand. He's not the sort to play it safe. Good on him.
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Colonel_Reb · May 6, 2007

I just saw this letter to the editor and decided to post it. It is from the Greenville, Mississippi Delta Democrat Times.

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All Southerners should support flag

Editor:

Here we go again. Another "politically correct" statement from the Delta Democrat Times - re: editorial from April 18 titled "Spurrier right on flag issue." What is it with white guilt and the constant apologies for our heritage? I am sick and tired of a vivid symbol of my heritage being trashed and vilified because the Ku Klux Klan adopted the Confederate Battle Flag for their own representation.

Let's get one thing straight right now: The Confederate Battle Flag was taken into the battle by the young men fighting to preserve their homeland from invasion.

As a Jew, I am extremely proud of the South and the way Jews were treated in the antebellum South. For those uninformed, Jews were treated as equals and brothers in a South that was overwhelmingly conservative Christian. Jews were allowed to own land, their own stores and work without fear of persecution or harm.

Contrast that with conditions in the North, where Jews were relegated to living in slums in the cities, barred from attending schools and refused admission to most hotels, country clubs and certain business associations.

I am proud that in 2001, the voters of this state made the sensible decision to keep the Confederate Battle Flag as part of our state's flag. We did not bow to the threats and intimidations of the race hustlers in the Jesse Jackson gang to relegate what is rightly our heritage to a museum.

We were stronger than our brothers in Georgia who decided to ignore their history in the face of threats, as their flag was changed in 2001. As has been said before, we Mississippians rose to the call of freedom-loving blood that is in us and send our answer to the tyranny that clanked its chains upon the U.S. In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, we drew the line in the dust and tossed the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny.

The Confederate Battle flag represents the history of all Mississippians: white, black, Asian and Indian. Instead of arguing about how the flag has been misrepresented, let us use this symbol to remind us of our courage in the face of tyranny, and our fight for freedom and liberty.

Mississippians of all colors put aside their racial and class differences to fight for their state during the War Between the States. We should remember this before we bow to ignorance and fear.

Michael Anthony
Marks

DixieDestroyer · May 6, 2007

Col.Reb,

Us Georgians fought hard to keep the stars n' bars flying on the GA state flag, but we're directly sold out by "Bolshevik" Roy Barnes & then indirectly sold out by Sonny Perdue.

However, us real Georgians still have/fly/recognize only ONE, true state flag...see my avatar!

Colonel_Reb · May 6, 2007

Dixie, to me it was your state legislators that sold the people out, as much or more so than the governors. They were the cowardly ones that got rid of the 1956 flag in the first place. As for the Stars and Bars, thats what the new Georgia flag is, with the state seal added. The 1956 flag, your avatar included the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, sometimes called the Southern Cross. Having said all that, I am proud of the flaggers and other who have tried, albeit unsuccessfully, to get the 1956 flag back up. Their efforts should not be forgotten. April 17, 2001 was the proudest I have ever been to be a Mississippian. Even 30% of the blacks voted to keep the old flag!

Colonel_Reb · Jan 18, 2008

Once again the venerable battle flag is in the news, drudged out of the memory hole to become an "issue" once again in the 2008 campaign. I'm sure all of the Democrats want to get rid of it for good, just as all but 2 Republicans do, Hucksterbee and Dr. Paul. I might have guessed that even Thompson would come out against it. Sean Vanity and "The Alien" Colmes were bringing it up tonight, and at least Vanity had the guts to defend it, along with Ann Coulter. As for those who say it is a hate filled reminder of slavery, oh the horrors of revisionist history! General Cleburne predicted it, as did others, and they were right. It makes me want to puke.

reclaimsocal · Jan 18, 2008

I think California will loan you gentlemen "Cuffy" to chase away all those hippy ****s that vote against your flag. In addition to Mexican, I hear Cuffy also enjoys the exotic flavors of Africa and New England Man Chowder...

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