absolutely correct, Van Slyke and Shogun! the Cardinals' defense, in particular, cost their team severely with all the penalties. the 3 personal fouls on one drive led to Pittsburgh points, and what makes it even more awful was the fact that the commentators kept going on about how Cardinal fans should be thankful the D was playing so well. there were so many stupid penalties in this game, i'd need an abacus to keep count! also, how about the affletic black sumo left tackle that Warner had "protecting" his blind side? if he wasn't getting penalized for holding, then Warner was getting hit by his man. pathetic! a tip of the hat to Big Ben, however. the way he bought time behind his atrocious o-line was simply incredible.